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He was declared missing on 12 January according to the BBC [1], where does the 9 January date come from? Mintguy (T)
How can he be 2nd Baronet when his mother's not dead yet? -- The Anome 10:14, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I believe Denis was awarded the Baronetcy precisely in order that Mark would inherit it. Davokills
Is Mark Thatcher's title "Sir" due to his inherited Baronetcy, or was he awarded a Knighthood for something or other? GWO
This page is temporarily protected because of repeated vandalism. Theresa Knott (Hot net streak!) 15:00, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Some of the IPs resolve to:
-- The Anome 15:31, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Does this page still need protection? I would like to add a link to the Simon Mann article I've just written. Mintguy (T)
When this is unprotected... Those are Mark Thatcher's personal arms, not "the arms of the baronetcy", whatever that could mean. Arms belong to people, not titles. Marnanel 02:39, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
"Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under considerable pressure from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." - - What is the evidence for this considerable pressure?
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CASE FOR SPEEDY MOVE - this page was moved yesterday (against policy) by user "Surrey10" , and the original page subsequently edited making it impossible to move back without a cut-&-paste or through the efforts of an Administrator. Jooler 23:15, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
"Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under considerable pressure from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." It is known that Thatcher turned down a hereditary peerage, so this makes little sense on it's own. Perhaps we can source it? Rich Farmbrough 23:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
IS there anything to be said aprt from his "scrapes". I was looking for the embarrasement caused in "He is also thought to have profited from contracts to supply aviation fuel in various African countries." ... Rich Farmbrough 00:05, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Chelseaboy should outline here on the discussion page any evidence there is from eg Debretts for the assertions on hereditary peerages for wives of Disraeli, Churchill and the "Dame" Norma Major. Phase1 22:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
"It was controversial from its creation by John Major, in favour of Mark's father Denis Thatcher, not least because Mark was first in line to inherit it." was labelled "citation needed", and as such was unsourced on a living person biography, so I removed it. "However" was also removed from the next sentence to keep the narrative flow. 80.229.242.179 16:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
"In 2004, an unnamed South African hostess told The Telegraph that the baronet is reportedly worth in excess of £60,000,000[citation needed]."
An unnamed South African hostess? In the name of professional appearance, I've removed that sentence. 80.229.242.179 16:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Good, SqueakBox 16:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The Hon. Mark Thatcher (7 December 1990–26 June 2003)
Where does the first date come from? That's when his mother was given the Order of Merit. HIs father's baronetcy was in 1991. Judging by the list of titles in the entry for Margaret Thatcher the date was 4 Feb 1991, not that the exact day matters that much... Flapdragon 23:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Since Mark Thatcher was known as "thickie" at school and failed to qualify as an accountant, it seems odd that he was offered a place at Oxford. In his day this would have meant staying on at school after "A" levels, specifically to take Oxbridge entrance exams. Why do this and then turn down an offer? This claim needs verifying. Millbanks ( talk) 11:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I have deleted the reference. Millbanks ( talk) 13:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Business or social career since 2005? Whereabouts in Spain is he living? Any word of his son, now 20? 86.144.243.136 ( talk) 11:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
The Improvement tag seems no longer warranted. There seem to be adequate in line citations. -- 121.214.45.78 ( talk) 11:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
It seems that Mark did not study at Oxford University. It is not clear if he was offered a place there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.54.66 ( talk) 16:53, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Is he really permanently banned from entering the United States? (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 02:04, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Isn't the article supposed to begin with what he IS? Is he a businessman? a lawyer? teacher? What has he done? What is he know for? Instead we are given a tabloid introduction about his relatives and his titles. Oddly enough he appears to actually be nothing and his only claim to fame is being a Thatcher. Otherwise, if his claim to fame is the Giunea blunder, than that is what the article should start with. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 14:05, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I am really quite surprised that there is no photo. If anyone is willing to mentor me, I will make it my mission to add an acceptable photo (by Wikipedia's standards and rules) for every biography I possibility can. User:SeaBeeDee( talk) 07:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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I am not sure how the £60,000,000 was arrived at. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C0:7C80:8401:A89E:C6B7:9DE8:C1A6 ( talk) 15:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Why does the infobox identify his "political party" as "Conservative"? As far as I know, he's never been overtly party political, and there's nothing in the article to say he has been. It would be a major news story if he ever came out in favour of any rival party, but unless there's some positive and sourced evidence of active Conservative partisanship, I think this should be deleted. GrindtXX ( talk) 23:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
A lot of repetition in this, particularly regarding the coup attempt, his titles, marriages and residence arrangements. Can anyone take on the task of reorganising in order to fix? - Sitush ( talk) 13:49, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
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A few things I discovered in browsing the web but don't have time to add just now...
He was declared missing on 12 January according to the BBC [1], where does the 9 January date come from? Mintguy (T)
How can he be 2nd Baronet when his mother's not dead yet? -- The Anome 10:14, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I believe Denis was awarded the Baronetcy precisely in order that Mark would inherit it. Davokills
Is Mark Thatcher's title "Sir" due to his inherited Baronetcy, or was he awarded a Knighthood for something or other? GWO
This page is temporarily protected because of repeated vandalism. Theresa Knott (Hot net streak!) 15:00, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Some of the IPs resolve to:
-- The Anome 15:31, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Does this page still need protection? I would like to add a link to the Simon Mann article I've just written. Mintguy (T)
When this is unprotected... Those are Mark Thatcher's personal arms, not "the arms of the baronetcy", whatever that could mean. Arms belong to people, not titles. Marnanel 02:39, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
"Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under considerable pressure from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." - - What is the evidence for this considerable pressure?
Copied from the entry on the WP:RM page:
CASE FOR SPEEDY MOVE - this page was moved yesterday (against policy) by user "Surrey10" , and the original page subsequently edited making it impossible to move back without a cut-&-paste or through the efforts of an Administrator. Jooler 23:15, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
"Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under considerable pressure from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." It is known that Thatcher turned down a hereditary peerage, so this makes little sense on it's own. Perhaps we can source it? Rich Farmbrough 23:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
IS there anything to be said aprt from his "scrapes". I was looking for the embarrasement caused in "He is also thought to have profited from contracts to supply aviation fuel in various African countries." ... Rich Farmbrough 00:05, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
Chelseaboy should outline here on the discussion page any evidence there is from eg Debretts for the assertions on hereditary peerages for wives of Disraeli, Churchill and the "Dame" Norma Major. Phase1 22:07, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
"It was controversial from its creation by John Major, in favour of Mark's father Denis Thatcher, not least because Mark was first in line to inherit it." was labelled "citation needed", and as such was unsourced on a living person biography, so I removed it. "However" was also removed from the next sentence to keep the narrative flow. 80.229.242.179 16:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
"In 2004, an unnamed South African hostess told The Telegraph that the baronet is reportedly worth in excess of £60,000,000[citation needed]."
An unnamed South African hostess? In the name of professional appearance, I've removed that sentence. 80.229.242.179 16:15, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Good, SqueakBox 16:17, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
The Hon. Mark Thatcher (7 December 1990–26 June 2003)
Where does the first date come from? That's when his mother was given the Order of Merit. HIs father's baronetcy was in 1991. Judging by the list of titles in the entry for Margaret Thatcher the date was 4 Feb 1991, not that the exact day matters that much... Flapdragon 23:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Since Mark Thatcher was known as "thickie" at school and failed to qualify as an accountant, it seems odd that he was offered a place at Oxford. In his day this would have meant staying on at school after "A" levels, specifically to take Oxbridge entrance exams. Why do this and then turn down an offer? This claim needs verifying. Millbanks ( talk) 11:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
I have deleted the reference. Millbanks ( talk) 13:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Business or social career since 2005? Whereabouts in Spain is he living? Any word of his son, now 20? 86.144.243.136 ( talk) 11:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
The Improvement tag seems no longer warranted. There seem to be adequate in line citations. -- 121.214.45.78 ( talk) 11:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
It seems that Mark did not study at Oxford University. It is not clear if he was offered a place there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.54.66 ( talk) 16:53, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
Is he really permanently banned from entering the United States? (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 02:04, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
Isn't the article supposed to begin with what he IS? Is he a businessman? a lawyer? teacher? What has he done? What is he know for? Instead we are given a tabloid introduction about his relatives and his titles. Oddly enough he appears to actually be nothing and his only claim to fame is being a Thatcher. Otherwise, if his claim to fame is the Giunea blunder, than that is what the article should start with. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia ( talk) 14:05, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I am really quite surprised that there is no photo. If anyone is willing to mentor me, I will make it my mission to add an acceptable photo (by Wikipedia's standards and rules) for every biography I possibility can. User:SeaBeeDee( talk) 07:41, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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I am not sure how the £60,000,000 was arrived at. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C0:7C80:8401:A89E:C6B7:9DE8:C1A6 ( talk) 15:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Why does the infobox identify his "political party" as "Conservative"? As far as I know, he's never been overtly party political, and there's nothing in the article to say he has been. It would be a major news story if he ever came out in favour of any rival party, but unless there's some positive and sourced evidence of active Conservative partisanship, I think this should be deleted. GrindtXX ( talk) 23:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
A lot of repetition in this, particularly regarding the coup attempt, his titles, marriages and residence arrangements. Can anyone take on the task of reorganising in order to fix? - Sitush ( talk) 13:49, 16 March 2023 (UTC)