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NOTE: Someone messed up his stats... his point totals don't match his goals and assists. One season had shown 2500 points (which clearly was wrong). There are further inaccurancies in his stats... someone should cross reference them with the NHL ones to make sure they're OK.
clean-up
I agree that the Mario page needs to be cleaned-up. any suggestions on what approach should be taken?
The last section should be broken up into initial retirement and his return to the game. Zeus1233 08:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
There is no mention in the article of him having cancer or carrying the Olympic torch in 2001.
Regarding clean-up, some of the wording is confusing in places. I'll play around with it, just to make clarifications in the language, and get back to you all in a while to see what you think. I don't see too many problems with the layout, however, so I'll leave that be. Cheers. -- Noxalk 18:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Three Stanley Cups Is Lemieux the only person to get his name engraved on the Cup as a player and then as an owner? If so, do you think the article should mention this?
We've gone over this time and time again, and it's high time people stopped provoking edit wars over it. The Manual of Style does not say that the language of an article must follow the subject's birth nationality: the turn of phrase is "Articles that focus on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country should generally conform to the spelling of that country." Lemieux is an American citizen who resides in the United States, has played his entire professional career for an American team and is the owner of an American corporation, and it is both reasonable for the article to follow us-en standard but follows the final rule of the section: "If all else fails, consider following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor (that is, not a stub) to the article." Now I support, and have edited to suit, articles concerning Canadian teams or players predominantly on Canadian teams into cd-en standard -- it only makes sense for non-Canadian Mats Sundin, who has exclusively played for Canadian teams, just for example, to have a cd-en article -- but this is needlessly provocative. Ravenswing 18:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I think this would be a good section to incorporte. Something about how the city of Pittsburgh views him as the Franchise's savior (three times over). Also, his off-ice legacy was recently in danger of being tarnished (if the team were to have been moved out of Pittsburgh). Instead, Lemieux's deal with PA state officials to build a new $290 M arena assured the team would remain in Pittsburgh for another 30 years. Lemieux was again praised by fans and the media for "saving the franchise," which may have finally secured his legacy as a Pittsburgh sports' hero. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.100.201.69 ( talk) 06:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
Although Mario has a Sewickley mailing address, I believe he actually lives in the Borough of Edgeworth. Edgeworth borders the Borough of Sewickly and Mario lives pretty much on the line ... but I believe he's officially in Edgeworth.
If I'm not mistaken Mario sold his controlling interest in the Penguins and the entry should reflect that. I would edit it as such, but I am too lazy.
I did a lot of work cleaning up this article as best as I could, it isn't perfect, but it is a lot more encyclopedic than the last version.
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04:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
"Many consider Lemieux to be the most talented hockey player ever."
This phrase in particular sets off a red flag - both for NPOV and for weasel words. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 11:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Mario's real name is not Greg, however I am unable to edit this.
Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but does anyone have an image of Lemieux wearing the 'C' on his Penguins jersey. He was the Penguins captain for 14 years- total (counting the 2004-05 NHL lockout). GoodDay 19:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
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In the collaborative spirit of Wiki- blah blah blah, here are some sources that others can use if they want to help out (post them if you find them):
How can his 5-goal game against Gretzky in 1996 not be mentioned?
Same thing for his 5-goal game against the Rangers which I believe came in 1993 during the 93-94 season?
I'm pretty sure there are many other memorable moments missing from the article, but these 2 should definitely be in there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivand67 ( talk • contribs) 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Per
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this probably needs to be re-done. i would suggest something like the following:
1984-1987 getting started
1987-1995 Canada Cup, Harts/scoring titles, Stanley Cups, Hodgkins, full missed season
1995-1997 first comeback - more scoring titles and a Hart
1997-2000 first retirement, ownership
2000-2005 second comeback - player/owner, '02 Olympic gold, '04 World Cup gold
2006-present second retirement, ownership
(my subtitles are not well-thought out... the time periods are what I'm really worried about here)
72.73.50.2 (
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Shouldn't it say his career was cut short due to Hodgkins Lymphoma and severe back problems. He missed a lot of time (arguably more) because of the back problems. Cheers 99.226.210.253 ( talk) 22:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Format's worse than the piss i took tuesday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.153.169 ( talk) 23:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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On what basis does "Sir" appear in front of Lemieux's name? As far as I know, neither the Order of Canada nor the National Order of Quebec follow this convention. -- I eat BC Fish ( talk) 00:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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It is well documented that Mario considered the Best player of all time by Bobby Orr, and Wayne Gretzky also agrees Mario with his size lifted the game to its greatest level for a period.
Neither Bobby Orr nor Mario Lemieux have said that about Gretzky. Nor has Mario said that about Bobby Orr.
Most hockey people consider Orr, Lemieux, Gretzky as the best 3 of all time. Hence the Opinion as offered or not offered by these 3 is most relevant in any discussion of the Greatest of all time.
It was almost embarrassing sometimes watching Lemieux as he often seemed not to try or totally off his game. Once, being such a great fan of his, I felt like hiding in a corner when Lemieux was playing terrible and was acting like Gretzky with his back to the boards behind the other teams net looking to pass. He had nobody to pass to, fell back to the boards girating his stick back and forth and put his hands in the air pretending he scored. Cringeworthy ahh. Where could I hide. He never even shot the puck, passed or anything and he is waving like he scored and won the cup.
The announcer was speechless, commented, well, he has his hands in the air, don’t know why.
The Referree gingerly skates by Mario, Mario motions that the ref should look in the net. He tugs at the net, and points to centre ice, signifying a goal.
Commentator shows the replay and says, well that’s about the fastest hand stick movement I ever did see, goal.
Mario the Magician, Magnifique, the GOAT.
The Early Years section states that Lemieux had 2 goals and 3 assists in the 1984 Memorial Cup but the Career Statistics section lists 1 goal and 2 assists. Elite Prospects (here: https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/m-cup/stats/1983-1984) says 1 goal and 2 assists. However, the citation in the Early Years section (available in archive.org) says 0 points in the first game, 1 goal in the second game (Lemieux may have had an assist or more as well, the citation does not say) and 1 goal, 2 assists in the third game. Does anybody have a source that shows which is correct? Sxg169 ( talk) 19:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Full-Strength, even-strength, power play, short-handed, Empty net, awarded goal, penalty shot. Those eight are off the top of my head. There are 11 on the page referenced in the link, although "own goal" doesn't count because it is recorded as an awarded goal to the last player of scoring team to have touched the puck. 112.210.164.232 ( talk) 05:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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NOTE: Someone messed up his stats... his point totals don't match his goals and assists. One season had shown 2500 points (which clearly was wrong). There are further inaccurancies in his stats... someone should cross reference them with the NHL ones to make sure they're OK.
clean-up
I agree that the Mario page needs to be cleaned-up. any suggestions on what approach should be taken?
The last section should be broken up into initial retirement and his return to the game. Zeus1233 08:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
There is no mention in the article of him having cancer or carrying the Olympic torch in 2001.
Regarding clean-up, some of the wording is confusing in places. I'll play around with it, just to make clarifications in the language, and get back to you all in a while to see what you think. I don't see too many problems with the layout, however, so I'll leave that be. Cheers. -- Noxalk 18:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
Three Stanley Cups Is Lemieux the only person to get his name engraved on the Cup as a player and then as an owner? If so, do you think the article should mention this?
We've gone over this time and time again, and it's high time people stopped provoking edit wars over it. The Manual of Style does not say that the language of an article must follow the subject's birth nationality: the turn of phrase is "Articles that focus on a topic specific to a particular English-speaking country should generally conform to the spelling of that country." Lemieux is an American citizen who resides in the United States, has played his entire professional career for an American team and is the owner of an American corporation, and it is both reasonable for the article to follow us-en standard but follows the final rule of the section: "If all else fails, consider following the spelling style preferred by the first major contributor (that is, not a stub) to the article." Now I support, and have edited to suit, articles concerning Canadian teams or players predominantly on Canadian teams into cd-en standard -- it only makes sense for non-Canadian Mats Sundin, who has exclusively played for Canadian teams, just for example, to have a cd-en article -- but this is needlessly provocative. Ravenswing 18:39, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
I think this would be a good section to incorporte. Something about how the city of Pittsburgh views him as the Franchise's savior (three times over). Also, his off-ice legacy was recently in danger of being tarnished (if the team were to have been moved out of Pittsburgh). Instead, Lemieux's deal with PA state officials to build a new $290 M arena assured the team would remain in Pittsburgh for another 30 years. Lemieux was again praised by fans and the media for "saving the franchise," which may have finally secured his legacy as a Pittsburgh sports' hero. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.100.201.69 ( talk) 06:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC).
Although Mario has a Sewickley mailing address, I believe he actually lives in the Borough of Edgeworth. Edgeworth borders the Borough of Sewickly and Mario lives pretty much on the line ... but I believe he's officially in Edgeworth.
If I'm not mistaken Mario sold his controlling interest in the Penguins and the entry should reflect that. I would edit it as such, but I am too lazy.
I did a lot of work cleaning up this article as best as I could, it isn't perfect, but it is a lot more encyclopedic than the last version.
Croat Canuck
04:01, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
"Many consider Lemieux to be the most talented hockey player ever."
This phrase in particular sets off a red flag - both for NPOV and for weasel words. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 11:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Mario's real name is not Greg, however I am unable to edit this.
Perhaps I'm nitpicking, but does anyone have an image of Lemieux wearing the 'C' on his Penguins jersey. He was the Penguins captain for 14 years- total (counting the 2004-05 NHL lockout). GoodDay 19:57, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
This article contains weasel words that prevent neutrality from occuring on this page. Examples include:
Unrefrenced statements like this are just one person's point of view. Please consider adjusting the wording to bring the article up to Wikipedia standards. Icestorm815 03:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
In the collaborative spirit of Wiki- blah blah blah, here are some sources that others can use if they want to help out (post them if you find them):
How can his 5-goal game against Gretzky in 1996 not be mentioned?
Same thing for his 5-goal game against the Rangers which I believe came in 1993 during the 93-94 season?
I'm pretty sure there are many other memorable moments missing from the article, but these 2 should definitely be in there! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ivand67 ( talk • contribs) 04:27, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Per
WP:HOCKEY's decision to remove the nickname field from the infobox, it is being moved here for use later. "| nickname = Super Mario
Le Magnifique
The Magnificent One" -
Djsasso (
talk)
21:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
this probably needs to be re-done. i would suggest something like the following:
1984-1987 getting started
1987-1995 Canada Cup, Harts/scoring titles, Stanley Cups, Hodgkins, full missed season
1995-1997 first comeback - more scoring titles and a Hart
1997-2000 first retirement, ownership
2000-2005 second comeback - player/owner, '02 Olympic gold, '04 World Cup gold
2006-present second retirement, ownership
(my subtitles are not well-thought out... the time periods are what I'm really worried about here)
72.73.50.2 (
talk)
20:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't it say his career was cut short due to Hodgkins Lymphoma and severe back problems. He missed a lot of time (arguably more) because of the back problems. Cheers 99.226.210.253 ( talk) 22:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Format's worse than the piss i took tuesday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.163.153.169 ( talk) 23:32, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
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On what basis does "Sir" appear in front of Lemieux's name? As far as I know, neither the Order of Canada nor the National Order of Quebec follow this convention. -- I eat BC Fish ( talk) 00:49, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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It is well documented that Mario considered the Best player of all time by Bobby Orr, and Wayne Gretzky also agrees Mario with his size lifted the game to its greatest level for a period.
Neither Bobby Orr nor Mario Lemieux have said that about Gretzky. Nor has Mario said that about Bobby Orr.
Most hockey people consider Orr, Lemieux, Gretzky as the best 3 of all time. Hence the Opinion as offered or not offered by these 3 is most relevant in any discussion of the Greatest of all time.
It was almost embarrassing sometimes watching Lemieux as he often seemed not to try or totally off his game. Once, being such a great fan of his, I felt like hiding in a corner when Lemieux was playing terrible and was acting like Gretzky with his back to the boards behind the other teams net looking to pass. He had nobody to pass to, fell back to the boards girating his stick back and forth and put his hands in the air pretending he scored. Cringeworthy ahh. Where could I hide. He never even shot the puck, passed or anything and he is waving like he scored and won the cup.
The announcer was speechless, commented, well, he has his hands in the air, don’t know why.
The Referree gingerly skates by Mario, Mario motions that the ref should look in the net. He tugs at the net, and points to centre ice, signifying a goal.
Commentator shows the replay and says, well that’s about the fastest hand stick movement I ever did see, goal.
Mario the Magician, Magnifique, the GOAT.
The Early Years section states that Lemieux had 2 goals and 3 assists in the 1984 Memorial Cup but the Career Statistics section lists 1 goal and 2 assists. Elite Prospects (here: https://www.eliteprospects.com/league/m-cup/stats/1983-1984) says 1 goal and 2 assists. However, the citation in the Early Years section (available in archive.org) says 0 points in the first game, 1 goal in the second game (Lemieux may have had an assist or more as well, the citation does not say) and 1 goal, 2 assists in the third game. Does anybody have a source that shows which is correct? Sxg169 ( talk) 19:45, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Full-Strength, even-strength, power play, short-handed, Empty net, awarded goal, penalty shot. Those eight are off the top of my head. There are 11 on the page referenced in the link, although "own goal" doesn't count because it is recorded as an awarded goal to the last player of scoring team to have touched the puck. 112.210.164.232 ( talk) 05:05, 9 February 2023 (UTC)