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I have restored the quote from Magda Olivero as Del Monaco WAS criticised as well as adored. Too many BIG tenors on Wikipedia have their groupies who will not listen to any comments (Antonio Paoli for example seems to be a near God and the page is locked - critics had their say now and then, but the "Big Tenor Mafia" silence any comments), Del Monaco was great but some people didn't think him perfect - they might be wrong, they may be right, but it was said. Not to include such comments is rather like saying "Hitler was a nice man" and ignoring what people said about him! Typical Wikipedia - "don't say anything I think is horrible (if true) about my idol." That's what's so bad about Wikipedia - just obsessive's protecting their idols, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.12.88 ( talk) 22:22, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedic place not a location for worth deprived opinions. Kaja Enäveri ( talk) 11:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Wait! Whaaaaat? Did you just compare adoration for Mario Del Monaco with nazis who still love Hitler in your response??? The OperaVagabond ( talk) 06:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I removed the "Heldentenor" category for Mario del Monaco. His loud voice was certainly heroic in proportions, but the term "heldentenor" is applied to exponents of German opera, and Richard Wagner's oeuvre in particular. None of this material was in del Monaco's repertoire. 68.72.109.75 13:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I undid your removement of the category, since del Monaco had a typical " heldentenor" voice - the term is not reserved for the german repertoire. Verdi's Otello, del Monaco's trademark role, belongs to it just like Lohengrin - the singer's only complete Wagner-role. And the way he sang Radames or Canio had nothing to do with belcanto.-- Vully 21:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Del Monaco had another complete Wagner role: Siegmund in Die Walkure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.155.224 ( talk) 22:39, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 02:41, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Mario del Monaco → Mario Del Monaco – He spelt his surname with capitals on both Del and Monaco. The Italian article has it that way. The Official Mario Del Monaco Website has it that way. And we have it that way all throughout the article - except for the title itself. That needs fixing. I tried to move it but it needs an admin. Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:45, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Mario del Monaco wrote "del" without the capital, thus it is the only authentic source... Kaja Enäveri ( talk) 11:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
No. No solo singer is "one of a quartet". Change that. Please. There may have been four great tenors in that era, but they were not a quartet. That is a silly term to use for a person who sang as a soloist. The person who put that term in this article is not a musician, nor intelligent. Remove it! Please, and thank you. RCLW 208.72.122.127 ( talk) 16:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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I am reproducing below the message I posted in user Kaja Enäveri's talk page referring to the rollback of some of her edits.
Having Kaja Enäveri substantially restored her revisions for the third time, I believe they ought to be reverted once again.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 17:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
User The OperaVagabond has removed sourced information from the article, claiming "it has no place here", as it contains such "a passive aggressive quote" as cannot be found in any articles about other major opera singers. On Wikipedia, however, one is not supposed to compare different articles with each other, but just to edit sourced information, and no one is entitled to remove any piece of information based on reliable sources just because they do not agree with it. Therefore, if The Opera Vagabond believe the article does not do Del Monaco justice, I think they just ought to report further critical judgments from authoritative sources (which certainly won't be lacking) and not to cancel those already present in the article, however unsatisfactory they may be or appear.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 09:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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I have restored the quote from Magda Olivero as Del Monaco WAS criticised as well as adored. Too many BIG tenors on Wikipedia have their groupies who will not listen to any comments (Antonio Paoli for example seems to be a near God and the page is locked - critics had their say now and then, but the "Big Tenor Mafia" silence any comments), Del Monaco was great but some people didn't think him perfect - they might be wrong, they may be right, but it was said. Not to include such comments is rather like saying "Hitler was a nice man" and ignoring what people said about him! Typical Wikipedia - "don't say anything I think is horrible (if true) about my idol." That's what's so bad about Wikipedia - just obsessive's protecting their idols, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.101.12.88 ( talk) 22:22, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedic place not a location for worth deprived opinions. Kaja Enäveri ( talk) 11:33, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Wait! Whaaaaat? Did you just compare adoration for Mario Del Monaco with nazis who still love Hitler in your response??? The OperaVagabond ( talk) 06:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I removed the "Heldentenor" category for Mario del Monaco. His loud voice was certainly heroic in proportions, but the term "heldentenor" is applied to exponents of German opera, and Richard Wagner's oeuvre in particular. None of this material was in del Monaco's repertoire. 68.72.109.75 13:09, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I undid your removement of the category, since del Monaco had a typical " heldentenor" voice - the term is not reserved for the german repertoire. Verdi's Otello, del Monaco's trademark role, belongs to it just like Lohengrin - the singer's only complete Wagner-role. And the way he sang Radames or Canio had nothing to do with belcanto.-- Vully 21:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Del Monaco had another complete Wagner role: Siegmund in Die Walkure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.155.224 ( talk) 22:39, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa ( talk) 02:41, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Mario del Monaco → Mario Del Monaco – He spelt his surname with capitals on both Del and Monaco. The Italian article has it that way. The Official Mario Del Monaco Website has it that way. And we have it that way all throughout the article - except for the title itself. That needs fixing. I tried to move it but it needs an admin. Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:45, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
Mario del Monaco wrote "del" without the capital, thus it is the only authentic source... Kaja Enäveri ( talk) 11:15, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
No. No solo singer is "one of a quartet". Change that. Please. There may have been four great tenors in that era, but they were not a quartet. That is a silly term to use for a person who sang as a soloist. The person who put that term in this article is not a musician, nor intelligent. Remove it! Please, and thank you. RCLW 208.72.122.127 ( talk) 16:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
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I am reproducing below the message I posted in user Kaja Enäveri's talk page referring to the rollback of some of her edits.
Having Kaja Enäveri substantially restored her revisions for the third time, I believe they ought to be reverted once again.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 17:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
User The OperaVagabond has removed sourced information from the article, claiming "it has no place here", as it contains such "a passive aggressive quote" as cannot be found in any articles about other major opera singers. On Wikipedia, however, one is not supposed to compare different articles with each other, but just to edit sourced information, and no one is entitled to remove any piece of information based on reliable sources just because they do not agree with it. Therefore, if The Opera Vagabond believe the article does not do Del Monaco justice, I think they just ought to report further critical judgments from authoritative sources (which certainly won't be lacking) and not to cancel those already present in the article, however unsatisfactory they may be or appear.-- Jeanambr ( talk) 09:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)