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Reference #3 (the Bill O'Reilly reference) simply refers to his Fox News page. It says to look half way down the page, but that reference was probably obsolete about 2 days after it was posted. This should probably be removed as well as the portion of the article that it is referencing if it can't be replaced.-- 76.104.90.6 ( talk) 02:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm certain she plagiarizes the etymological definitions from the Online Etymology Dictionary. Just compare a few videos yourself. I think we should put that in this article. Bluesagesjokeshift ( talk) 08:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The "facts" in this article are merely taken from her online act. It could all be part of the act. Does she have any qualifications as a philologist/etymologist? What did she do before she was an internet star? What led to this career? 121.44.147.91 ( talk) 21:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, there should be a cirticism section in this article, I could look up origins for words on etymonline or another etymology website. The only thing Marina is an "expert" at doing is using these websites, that's pretty obvious. I also think she grossly misrepresents the linguistic community. As a linguist myself, I'm insulted that she is making people believe we sit around all day and trace etymological roots. the fact o the matter is that etymology barely qualifies as linguistics, as what we REALLY deal with the theoretical basis of how language is structured and sequenced at all of its levels, phonology, morphology, syntax, etc. and finding ways to account for emprical evidence we come across in any language while still accounting for that which we do know. That is the true pursuit of linguistics, not her etymology crap. And besides, spelling bee champ Kavya Shivashankar probably knows WAY more about etymology than Marina does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.142.89 ( talk) 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
If she is a linguist then what theoretical framework does she work in? Generative Grammar? She probably doesn't even know what Generative Grammar is, she has probably never read anything by Chomsky (to do with linguistics) and she grossly misrepresents our field. All of these things are worthy of being in the article! Hey wiki nazis, don't you bastards take this down again because I'll keep doing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.133.212 ( talk) 04:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC) So what university did she go to?
What do you mean historical linguistics is the only real linguistics? Clearly you have never studied linguistics in your life and know nothing about it. Don't go running your mouth about things you don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htahpoahf ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
She's a philologist, not a linguist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.35.136 ( talk) 23:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
To the guy with the IP 99.227.133.212, do you think that putting "Marina Orlova is also known for not having read Chomsky" would be OK?? then let's write Lady Gaga is know for not having listened to Vivaldi and she horribly misrepresents the field of music. Armando.O talk ● Ev ● 3K 08:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
She's not a linguist and she's embarrassing the entire field of linguistics. Linguists study how the phenomenon of language is actually set up in the human brain. This ivolves working in a lot of theory, including Chomsky's Universal Grammar among others. Marina does not demonstrate she knows any linguistic theory, all she does is etymology, and etymology barely wualifies as linguistics. It is useful to know but it's nothing you can't look up in a reference book. Not the case with real linguistics, as one must actually be trained within a theory to analyze something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.131.13 ( talk) 02:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
This documentary investigated her background in Nizhny Novgorod. The University says she was never a student, but a local strip club claims she once worked there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmt_JdUJAbA 75.49.238.83 ( talk) 00:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Moved from my talk page:
Off2riorob can't show how the documentary isn't reliable, or how the phone sex commercials aren't fake. Yet, he must revert it anyway. Somebody who gets their fame from showing off their cleavage in hundreds of videos was a pole dancing stripper and was in phone sex commericals? How unexpected!-- Sinistrial ( talk) 20:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
You have a week to disprove my sources before they go back in.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 21:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps we should take the desired addition to one of the noticeboards for opinions, the reliable source noticeboard perhaps to see if the citation is reliable to use for details about the person and then perhaps the biography of living people noticeboard to see if the desired edit is perhaps a weakly cited titillating claim that is not widely reported about a living person. This is the edit after BD2412 tweaked it to be at least attributed and not displayed as if fact, also imo the phone sex stuff is clearly excessive but I think the editors still wants to add it and wants other opinions as to why he should not add it. Off2riorob ( talk) 14:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
When a Russian documentary interviewed Marina, she claimed to have been awarded a distinction in English studies at Nizhny Novgorod school. [1] She then claimed she graduated as a teacher of Russian language, English language and literature from Nizhny Novgorod State University. [2] The show visited both the school and university but both were unable to find any records of Marina. [3] [4]
The show displayed photographs allegedly showing Marina as a pole dancer, and interviewed a
strip club manager who said that she used to work at his club.
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English: (At Orlova's hometown) Host: Marina tells everybody that she is Russian, that she grew up in a simple working class family and studied here in Nizhny Novgorod. Russian: (На родном Орловой) Интервьюер: Марина рассказывает всем, что она русская, что она выросла в простой рабочей семье и учился здесь, в Нижнем Новгороде.
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English: M. Orlova: I studied to be a teacher. Interviewer: At what university did you graduate? M. Orlova: Nizhniy Novgorod University. I graduated as a teacher of Russian language and English language and literature. Russian: М. Орлова: Я училась на учителя. Интервьюер: На каком университете ты выпускник? М. Орлова: Нижегородский университет. Я получил диплом учителя русского языка и английского языка и литературы.
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English: (At Nizhniy Novgorod University) Investigator: Tell me, did Orlova study here or not? Faculty member: No she didn't. Investigator: How could this be? Faculty member: We've checked the archives of those years. According to our records she didn't study or graduate at our University. Russian: (В Нижнем Новгороде университет) Следователь: Скажите, Орлова учиться здесь или нет? Преподаватель: Нет, она этого не сделали. Следователь: Как это может быть? Преподаватель: Мы проверили архивы тех лет. По нашим данным она не учился и аспирантов в нашем университете.
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English: (At Orlova's hometown school) Investigator: This is the school where Marina Orlova finished with a distinction. (At school of Nizhny Novgorod) Teacher: Unfortunately we haven't found this pupil. Investigator: No Marina Orlova? Teacher: There is no such record of her in our books. Russian: (На родной школы Орловой) Следователь: Это школа, где Марина Орлова закончила с отличием. (В школе г. Нижний Новгород) Учитель: К сожалению, мы не нашли этого ученика. Следователь: Нет Марина Орлова? Учитель: Существует нет такой записи ее в наших книгах
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English: Investigator: She was remebered only at one place. Girls that graduate don't usually go to such places. (Shows strip club owner image of M. Orlova) Investigator: Remember her? Strip club owner: Yeah, people liked her. She was young and not experieced and need to earn for a living.} Investigator: this girl started from from.. Strip club owner: From the strip club. Russian: Следователь: Она была remebered только в одном месте. Девушки, что выпускник обычно не посещают такие места. (Показывает стрип-клуба, владелец изображения М. Орлова) Следователь: Помните ее? Газа владельца клуба: Да, народ любил ее. Она была молода и не experieced и необходимость зарабатывать на жизнь.) Следователь: эта девочка начала с с .. Газа владельца клуба: от стриптиз-клуб.
I don't think the "documentary" (and this word is used very loosely here) showed actual images of her as a pole dancer; they showed pictures of a few other women, and some images which clearly had Orlova's head on dancer's body. The article, by the way, should be consistent with Wikipedia style in referring to the subject by surname, not given name. I find the allegation that Orlova falsely claimed academic affiliations to be more pertinent to the article than the salacious details, because she is currently holding herself out as a trained linguist. She hasn't publicly denied appearing in phone sex commercials, or even working as a stripper, although I find the stripper claim to be the most dubious based on its presentation. On the other hand, the article already makes clear that she is cashing in on her sex appeal, so other instances of the same are neither out of bounds for inclusion (if reliably sourced), nor implausible. bd2412 T 23:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
As you haven't come up with any good reason to why it shouldn't included, I'll be restoring it when the protection expires.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 15:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
I've watched the documentary footage frame by frame. At no point is an actual image of Orlova as a dancer shown. There is an unclear image at 3:25 of blond woman which looks only vaguely like her. There are images at 4:34-4:27 that are very clearly the same copy of Orlova's face superimposed on another woman's body. There is no actual photograph of her pole dancing, and it is actually never clear in the interview that the person identified as the strip club owner is talking about Orlova, as opposed to someone else. It also remains to be demonstrated that this material ever actually aired on any television show. Has the show even been identified? Can the interviewer be identified? bd2412 T 20:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh look they even have a preview on the networks official website http://www.ntv.ru/peredacha/glavniy_geroy_predstavliaet/#main_content click on "Архив" -> go on second page -> choose "Супер Новые Русские". I guess the networks site was hacked to include the video was it?? CONSPIRACY!!! LOL-- Sinistrial ( talk) 12:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Raspaltsovka, Golden, wheelbarrows and crimson jackets. They do not need all is because they are talented, young, beautiful, and speak English well. Russian, which is not afraid, but love the West. Hollywood star Anton Yelchin, Norwegian nugget Sasha Rybak. They glorify Russia, but Russia has lost them. "Super New Russian" on Thursday will be the protagonists of NTV.
It is complete rubbish, any video clip that sticks the head of someone in a picture is absolutely not a reliable source for anything, also the presenter guy going to a school and showing a picture of Orlova as a fully grown woman and asking teacher or someone they claim was a teacher if they recognize the person from when she was eleven is a joke. Off2riorob ( talk) 13:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
-- Sinistrial ( talk) 14:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
You keep questioning the reputation of the show when it is broadcast across the globe. Like I said above, false allegations and investigations would not be broadcast due to strict editorial control. And how wouldn't commercials be notable? This article is already tiny, it was part of her career, not a walk down her local coffee shop.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 18:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
List of sources that connect her to that name or 'alias'.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 18:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Please read WP:RS . None of these citations are reliable sources to support that the subject of this wikipedia article is that person. The redirect should be removed if a reliable citation is not presented. Off2riorob ( talk) 18:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The following investigation/documentary show based on the subject was broadcast across the globe, is it reliable and notable? It was broadcast on NTV (Russia)
The proposed content and references to be added can be viewed at #addition.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 17:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Re your Third Opinion request — I am a Third Opinion Wikipedian. I have removed the request from the list of active requests on the Third Opinion request page in light of the RfC which is pending on this matter. (Indeed, in light of the fact that there have already been a number of responses to the RfC, as set out below, with more perhaps to follow, it would appear that this dispute may no longer an appropriate subject for a Third Opinion.) Please see the instructions on the Third Opinion project page and the Third Opinion FAQ. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN ( TALK) 14:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Some kind of redirect has been created, does anyone know what is going on? Is there a wikipedia reliable sitation that shows that these are the same person? Off2riorob ( talk) 18:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
She posted it on her youtube profile ( WP:SELFPUB). Searching the name brings up a wide array of her pictures of her with that name on many websites, suggesting she has used that name more than once. So it is a redirect from one her alternative names as recommended by reason #1 on Wikipedia:REDIRECT#Purposes_of_redirects. No reason to delete.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 12:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How about you dummies using your two eyes? When you place the two pictures side by side, you can see that they are one in the same person. Especially since they both have the exact same belly piercing in the same exact place, among other identical body features.
http://funbikni.blogspot.com/2010/09/marina-rodina-hot-pink-bikini-pictures.html and
http://www.guxed.net/marina-orlova.html. — Preceding
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The fourth link in the previous "Marina Rodina" discussion section is clearly showing she used that name until June 2007. Or is there a problem with web.archive.org's reliability? Or is someone claiming 'hotforwords' has not been her account since Feb 26, 2007 (as the archive claims the account was created)? And web.archive.org's later saved pages show she has been "Marina Orlova" from March 2009. 85.217.42.90 ( talk) 07:32, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
A new picture has been added, it is not a very good picture imo , she is leaning over to one side, the picture has clearly been cut in half and you can still see the other person, imo it adds nothing to the article and the article is better without it, opinions and comments? Off2riorob ( talk) 13:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
On the MHz Networks channel, they carry the news program RT (Russia Today). At the end of each show, there is a 60 second clip. This is a for-TV episode of her "Hot For Words" show, but in this show she takes the time to teach a few Russian words to English speakers. The format seems to be similar to the videos she has done for YouTube otherwise. Shouldn't there be some mention of this on her page? I think these short clips are being aired on more than MHz Networks, but I wouldn't know where else. 03:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.95.246 ( talk)
For such a small article, it has many categories. I have removed the following categories:
I'm guessing most of these categories can be backed by the fact the book 'Hot for Words: Answers to All Your Burning Questions About Words and Their Meanings' was published. But as above, there is no evidence that is this ground-breaking, or been cited by any expert in the field, or that is what she is known for.
Similiary, you would not have Kim Kardashian in Category:21st-century women writers because she wrote 'Dollhouse' and wrote 'Kardashian Konfidential '. Although Paris Hilton is in that category because her book became a New York Times bestseller. Or Danny Lloyd isn't in any teachers/biologist/professor categories, because they aren't known for that.
Again, these categories can be restored when an expert in that field cites them, or their work.
For guidelines on this, see Wikipedia:COP#General_considerations, Wikipedia:Categorization#Defining_characteristics.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 15:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Anyone plan on updating now that she is back on line? Gordonsanders ( talk) 05:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
If you look at her YouTube page, she’s doing some pretty weird stuff now. She appears to be on only fans a little, and her Facebook page looks strange too. Maybe investigate and do an update? 107.115.45.50 ( talk) 01:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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Reference #3 (the Bill O'Reilly reference) simply refers to his Fox News page. It says to look half way down the page, but that reference was probably obsolete about 2 days after it was posted. This should probably be removed as well as the portion of the article that it is referencing if it can't be replaced.-- 76.104.90.6 ( talk) 02:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm certain she plagiarizes the etymological definitions from the Online Etymology Dictionary. Just compare a few videos yourself. I think we should put that in this article. Bluesagesjokeshift ( talk) 08:38, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
The "facts" in this article are merely taken from her online act. It could all be part of the act. Does she have any qualifications as a philologist/etymologist? What did she do before she was an internet star? What led to this career? 121.44.147.91 ( talk) 21:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, there should be a cirticism section in this article, I could look up origins for words on etymonline or another etymology website. The only thing Marina is an "expert" at doing is using these websites, that's pretty obvious. I also think she grossly misrepresents the linguistic community. As a linguist myself, I'm insulted that she is making people believe we sit around all day and trace etymological roots. the fact o the matter is that etymology barely qualifies as linguistics, as what we REALLY deal with the theoretical basis of how language is structured and sequenced at all of its levels, phonology, morphology, syntax, etc. and finding ways to account for emprical evidence we come across in any language while still accounting for that which we do know. That is the true pursuit of linguistics, not her etymology crap. And besides, spelling bee champ Kavya Shivashankar probably knows WAY more about etymology than Marina does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.142.89 ( talk) 04:59, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
If she is a linguist then what theoretical framework does she work in? Generative Grammar? She probably doesn't even know what Generative Grammar is, she has probably never read anything by Chomsky (to do with linguistics) and she grossly misrepresents our field. All of these things are worthy of being in the article! Hey wiki nazis, don't you bastards take this down again because I'll keep doing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.133.212 ( talk) 04:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC) So what university did she go to?
What do you mean historical linguistics is the only real linguistics? Clearly you have never studied linguistics in your life and know nothing about it. Don't go running your mouth about things you don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htahpoahf ( talk • contribs) 18:52, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
She's a philologist, not a linguist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.6.35.136 ( talk) 23:12, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
To the guy with the IP 99.227.133.212, do you think that putting "Marina Orlova is also known for not having read Chomsky" would be OK?? then let's write Lady Gaga is know for not having listened to Vivaldi and she horribly misrepresents the field of music. Armando.O talk ● Ev ● 3K 08:32, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
She's not a linguist and she's embarrassing the entire field of linguistics. Linguists study how the phenomenon of language is actually set up in the human brain. This ivolves working in a lot of theory, including Chomsky's Universal Grammar among others. Marina does not demonstrate she knows any linguistic theory, all she does is etymology, and etymology barely wualifies as linguistics. It is useful to know but it's nothing you can't look up in a reference book. Not the case with real linguistics, as one must actually be trained within a theory to analyze something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.131.13 ( talk) 02:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
This documentary investigated her background in Nizhny Novgorod. The University says she was never a student, but a local strip club claims she once worked there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmt_JdUJAbA 75.49.238.83 ( talk) 00:23, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Moved from my talk page:
Off2riorob can't show how the documentary isn't reliable, or how the phone sex commercials aren't fake. Yet, he must revert it anyway. Somebody who gets their fame from showing off their cleavage in hundreds of videos was a pole dancing stripper and was in phone sex commericals? How unexpected!-- Sinistrial ( talk) 20:41, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
You have a week to disprove my sources before they go back in.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 21:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps we should take the desired addition to one of the noticeboards for opinions, the reliable source noticeboard perhaps to see if the citation is reliable to use for details about the person and then perhaps the biography of living people noticeboard to see if the desired edit is perhaps a weakly cited titillating claim that is not widely reported about a living person. This is the edit after BD2412 tweaked it to be at least attributed and not displayed as if fact, also imo the phone sex stuff is clearly excessive but I think the editors still wants to add it and wants other opinions as to why he should not add it. Off2riorob ( talk) 14:12, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
When a Russian documentary interviewed Marina, she claimed to have been awarded a distinction in English studies at Nizhny Novgorod school. [1] She then claimed she graduated as a teacher of Russian language, English language and literature from Nizhny Novgorod State University. [2] The show visited both the school and university but both were unable to find any records of Marina. [3] [4]
The show displayed photographs allegedly showing Marina as a pole dancer, and interviewed a
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English: (At Orlova's hometown) Host: Marina tells everybody that she is Russian, that she grew up in a simple working class family and studied here in Nizhny Novgorod. Russian: (На родном Орловой) Интервьюер: Марина рассказывает всем, что она русская, что она выросла в простой рабочей семье и учился здесь, в Нижнем Новгороде.
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English: M. Orlova: I studied to be a teacher. Interviewer: At what university did you graduate? M. Orlova: Nizhniy Novgorod University. I graduated as a teacher of Russian language and English language and literature. Russian: М. Орлова: Я училась на учителя. Интервьюер: На каком университете ты выпускник? М. Орлова: Нижегородский университет. Я получил диплом учителя русского языка и английского языка и литературы.
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English: (At Nizhniy Novgorod University) Investigator: Tell me, did Orlova study here or not? Faculty member: No she didn't. Investigator: How could this be? Faculty member: We've checked the archives of those years. According to our records she didn't study or graduate at our University. Russian: (В Нижнем Новгороде университет) Следователь: Скажите, Орлова учиться здесь или нет? Преподаватель: Нет, она этого не сделали. Следователь: Как это может быть? Преподаватель: Мы проверили архивы тех лет. По нашим данным она не учился и аспирантов в нашем университете.
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English: (At Orlova's hometown school) Investigator: This is the school where Marina Orlova finished with a distinction. (At school of Nizhny Novgorod) Teacher: Unfortunately we haven't found this pupil. Investigator: No Marina Orlova? Teacher: There is no such record of her in our books. Russian: (На родной школы Орловой) Следователь: Это школа, где Марина Орлова закончила с отличием. (В школе г. Нижний Новгород) Учитель: К сожалению, мы не нашли этого ученика. Следователь: Нет Марина Орлова? Учитель: Существует нет такой записи ее в наших книгах
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English: Investigator: She was remebered only at one place. Girls that graduate don't usually go to such places. (Shows strip club owner image of M. Orlova) Investigator: Remember her? Strip club owner: Yeah, people liked her. She was young and not experieced and need to earn for a living.} Investigator: this girl started from from.. Strip club owner: From the strip club. Russian: Следователь: Она была remebered только в одном месте. Девушки, что выпускник обычно не посещают такие места. (Показывает стрип-клуба, владелец изображения М. Орлова) Следователь: Помните ее? Газа владельца клуба: Да, народ любил ее. Она была молода и не experieced и необходимость зарабатывать на жизнь.) Следователь: эта девочка начала с с .. Газа владельца клуба: от стриптиз-клуб.
I don't think the "documentary" (and this word is used very loosely here) showed actual images of her as a pole dancer; they showed pictures of a few other women, and some images which clearly had Orlova's head on dancer's body. The article, by the way, should be consistent with Wikipedia style in referring to the subject by surname, not given name. I find the allegation that Orlova falsely claimed academic affiliations to be more pertinent to the article than the salacious details, because she is currently holding herself out as a trained linguist. She hasn't publicly denied appearing in phone sex commercials, or even working as a stripper, although I find the stripper claim to be the most dubious based on its presentation. On the other hand, the article already makes clear that she is cashing in on her sex appeal, so other instances of the same are neither out of bounds for inclusion (if reliably sourced), nor implausible. bd2412 T 23:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
As you haven't come up with any good reason to why it shouldn't included, I'll be restoring it when the protection expires.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 15:58, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
I've watched the documentary footage frame by frame. At no point is an actual image of Orlova as a dancer shown. There is an unclear image at 3:25 of blond woman which looks only vaguely like her. There are images at 4:34-4:27 that are very clearly the same copy of Orlova's face superimposed on another woman's body. There is no actual photograph of her pole dancing, and it is actually never clear in the interview that the person identified as the strip club owner is talking about Orlova, as opposed to someone else. It also remains to be demonstrated that this material ever actually aired on any television show. Has the show even been identified? Can the interviewer be identified? bd2412 T 20:36, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh look they even have a preview on the networks official website http://www.ntv.ru/peredacha/glavniy_geroy_predstavliaet/#main_content click on "Архив" -> go on second page -> choose "Супер Новые Русские". I guess the networks site was hacked to include the video was it?? CONSPIRACY!!! LOL-- Sinistrial ( talk) 12:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Raspaltsovka, Golden, wheelbarrows and crimson jackets. They do not need all is because they are talented, young, beautiful, and speak English well. Russian, which is not afraid, but love the West. Hollywood star Anton Yelchin, Norwegian nugget Sasha Rybak. They glorify Russia, but Russia has lost them. "Super New Russian" on Thursday will be the protagonists of NTV.
It is complete rubbish, any video clip that sticks the head of someone in a picture is absolutely not a reliable source for anything, also the presenter guy going to a school and showing a picture of Orlova as a fully grown woman and asking teacher or someone they claim was a teacher if they recognize the person from when she was eleven is a joke. Off2riorob ( talk) 13:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
-- Sinistrial ( talk) 14:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
You keep questioning the reputation of the show when it is broadcast across the globe. Like I said above, false allegations and investigations would not be broadcast due to strict editorial control. And how wouldn't commercials be notable? This article is already tiny, it was part of her career, not a walk down her local coffee shop.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 18:38, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
List of sources that connect her to that name or 'alias'.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 18:12, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Please read WP:RS . None of these citations are reliable sources to support that the subject of this wikipedia article is that person. The redirect should be removed if a reliable citation is not presented. Off2riorob ( talk) 18:42, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
The following investigation/documentary show based on the subject was broadcast across the globe, is it reliable and notable? It was broadcast on NTV (Russia)
The proposed content and references to be added can be viewed at #addition.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 17:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Re your Third Opinion request — I am a Third Opinion Wikipedian. I have removed the request from the list of active requests on the Third Opinion request page in light of the RfC which is pending on this matter. (Indeed, in light of the fact that there have already been a number of responses to the RfC, as set out below, with more perhaps to follow, it would appear that this dispute may no longer an appropriate subject for a Third Opinion.) Please see the instructions on the Third Opinion project page and the Third Opinion FAQ. Best regards, TRANSPORTERMAN ( TALK) 14:36, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Some kind of redirect has been created, does anyone know what is going on? Is there a wikipedia reliable sitation that shows that these are the same person? Off2riorob ( talk) 18:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
She posted it on her youtube profile ( WP:SELFPUB). Searching the name brings up a wide array of her pictures of her with that name on many websites, suggesting she has used that name more than once. So it is a redirect from one her alternative names as recommended by reason #1 on Wikipedia:REDIRECT#Purposes_of_redirects. No reason to delete.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 12:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How about you dummies using your two eyes? When you place the two pictures side by side, you can see that they are one in the same person. Especially since they both have the exact same belly piercing in the same exact place, among other identical body features.
http://funbikni.blogspot.com/2010/09/marina-rodina-hot-pink-bikini-pictures.html and
http://www.guxed.net/marina-orlova.html. — Preceding
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The fourth link in the previous "Marina Rodina" discussion section is clearly showing she used that name until June 2007. Or is there a problem with web.archive.org's reliability? Or is someone claiming 'hotforwords' has not been her account since Feb 26, 2007 (as the archive claims the account was created)? And web.archive.org's later saved pages show she has been "Marina Orlova" from March 2009. 85.217.42.90 ( talk) 07:32, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
A new picture has been added, it is not a very good picture imo , she is leaning over to one side, the picture has clearly been cut in half and you can still see the other person, imo it adds nothing to the article and the article is better without it, opinions and comments? Off2riorob ( talk) 13:03, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
On the MHz Networks channel, they carry the news program RT (Russia Today). At the end of each show, there is a 60 second clip. This is a for-TV episode of her "Hot For Words" show, but in this show she takes the time to teach a few Russian words to English speakers. The format seems to be similar to the videos she has done for YouTube otherwise. Shouldn't there be some mention of this on her page? I think these short clips are being aired on more than MHz Networks, but I wouldn't know where else. 03:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.95.246 ( talk)
For such a small article, it has many categories. I have removed the following categories:
I'm guessing most of these categories can be backed by the fact the book 'Hot for Words: Answers to All Your Burning Questions About Words and Their Meanings' was published. But as above, there is no evidence that is this ground-breaking, or been cited by any expert in the field, or that is what she is known for.
Similiary, you would not have Kim Kardashian in Category:21st-century women writers because she wrote 'Dollhouse' and wrote 'Kardashian Konfidential '. Although Paris Hilton is in that category because her book became a New York Times bestseller. Or Danny Lloyd isn't in any teachers/biologist/professor categories, because they aren't known for that.
Again, these categories can be restored when an expert in that field cites them, or their work.
For guidelines on this, see Wikipedia:COP#General_considerations, Wikipedia:Categorization#Defining_characteristics.-- Sinistrial ( talk) 15:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Anyone plan on updating now that she is back on line? Gordonsanders ( talk) 05:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
If you look at her YouTube page, she’s doing some pretty weird stuff now. She appears to be on only fans a little, and her Facebook page looks strange too. Maybe investigate and do an update? 107.115.45.50 ( talk) 01:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)