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The National Center for Public Policy Research is a conservative organization dedicated to private property rights. Seems POV to add criticism of the best know national evironmental scorecard, based on a 2002 memo from them, don't ya think? None of the votes covered in the memo refer to 2005 and 2006. If you have a more recent criticism it might be more relevant, maybe LCV incorporated the criticism in their scorecard since 2002 since I find no recent criticism.
NEA fund is incorrect. Its a professional organization (ie labor union) supporting public education and educators...why take that out? It clearly explains what their position is in giving her and F (as does the link), which your edit does not. It's also the largest professional organization in the country...why is that not important in substantiating their criticism? Simplifying their stated legistlative priorties to basically 'nothing' seems POV. I'm sure Musgrave supporters are proud of the 'F' anyway but that's beside the point.
You want to add balance?
How about adding a 'Support' section instead, with a Grade A from the NRA and a 100 approval from the Christian Coalition? I'll start but I don't have time to add all the details and cites right now. Seems a better route than route you took.
Overall, I have no complaints from your edits O^O. You have consistently done a great job increasing accuracy, negating POV, and being fair but this one seems a bit much. Thanks. Tossloss
o^o I understand what you are saying. I have put some effort into a more balanced approach. Try it on for size. If you don't like it better than the existing edit you have my 100% support to completely revert back to the previous edit rather than mess with it at all!!! I'm tired and probably won't be back unless I see vandalism. Thanks again.
PS Also, regarding your main point about lists...I don't know the answer. I guess there would be a line crossed at some point and Maxim Douchebags might definitely be it :) The currently listed ones seem appropriate (to me) as she is notable for her extreme positions on these particular political issues, be they good or bad depending one's POV.
Dear Partisan Editors, please stop posting silliness like accusations that this congressman wants to see mothers die in abortion cases etc etc etc. Keep the information neutral and without POV or others will do it for you. DNC talking points posted with either have the info from the other side added to provide balance or will be removed. Bachs
This sentence "As a Colorado State Representative and Senator, Musgrave spent much of her time authoring bills to defend the institution of marriage by means of denying rights to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered Coloradans and their families" is actually a combination of pro-gay-rights pov and anti-gay-rights pov - quite an accomplishment. Despite the equal time, it's still not neutral. I'm not familiar with Musgrave so I'm not sure that anything I write would be factually accurate. Rhobite 04:37, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
Marraige is not a right, if I had a right to get married than if no one would marry me than my rights would be violated - this and other types of arguments on policy do not belong on a member of congress's wiki entry and is best posted on the gay marraige wiki entry. Bachs
Choice of marriage partners is a right, actually (Loving v. Virginia, 1967).
Marriage has been determined by the Supreme Court of the United States to be a "fundamental" right guarded by the United States Constitution. Your legal reasoning is circular and nonsensical. There is nothing inccorect about the cited sentence. Agrippina Minor 18:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The most recent edit mentioned only her efforts on "marriage", but that conflicts with the information about the bill that would make it harder for gay parents to see their children in the hospital. As a result, I changed the wording. -- JamesB3 06:30, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
None of the allegations against DeLay have been proven. Ronnie Earle, the Tom Delay prosecutor, has a history of indictments against Democrat and Republican political enemies that have failed (see Kay Bailey Hutchison) and it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to several grand juries because some refused to indict. [1] One of the charges filed by Earle was summarily dismissed by trial judge Pat Priest. Earle has partnered up with producers making a movie, called The Big Buy, about his pursuit of DeLay that has been filming since before DeLay was notified of the charges. [2] [3] [4]
This was added because the added statement about Tom Delay is an unproven allegation that is used to make the member of congress guilty by association. Especially when there is much evidence that Ronnie Earle's indictments are politically motivated. You cannot include one side of an unproven allegation and not include the other, its unfair and biased.
In an effort to come to a compromise with editor roma the paragrapgh reads thusly. This way BOTH dems and reps have thir facts represented.
Musgrave received $30,000 in campaign contributions from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's ARMPAC. After DeLay was indicted, Musgrave's opponents attacked her for not returning the money or donating it to charity. [5]Republicans say that the charges by Ronnie Earle against DeLay are politically motivated because Earle has a history of indictments against Democrat and Republican political enemies that have failed (see Kay Bailey Hutchison) and it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to several grand juries because some refused to indict. [6] Republicans also criticized Earle for making a movie called The Big Buy, about his pursuit of DeLay that has been filming since before DeLay was notified of the charges. [7] [8] [9]
In a final compromise with Roma we agreed on this paragrapgh
Musgrave received $30,000 in campaign contributions from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's ARMPAC. After DeLay was indicted, Musgrave's opponents attacked her for not returning the money or donating it to charity. [10] Republicans say that the charges against DeLay are politically motivated because prosecutor Ronnie Earle has a history of unsuccessful indictments against political enemies of both parties such as Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), and because it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to multiple grand juries because one refused to indict. [11] [12]
John, there is no fight, however if you are going to include partisan accusations than both sides must be represented. You have defined "fighting" as showing both sides of the facts, that is a convenient position to take when someone is pushing a partisan point of view or is trying to slant REAL balance or neutrality. So either both sides of the story will be there or no reference to DeLay or CREW should be mentioned. Since ARMPAC has a link, than no mention of DeLay is needed because, according to you, they can follow the link right? CREW is a partisan action committee by their own admission, therefore just inserting their allegation without the other side is not neutral, and is partisan and grossly unfair. Until you come up with a way that provides REAL balance and neutrality this edit will be reverted.
Bachs
NatusRoma, I am sure that this is your opinion, but unfortunately it doesnt reflect reality. The ARMPAC allegations and the CREW allegations have one thing in common, they are both allegations made by known out of the closet partisan players that are unproven. Since this is indeed the case than both sides of the allegation will be told. Bachs
On 17:46, 10 March 2006, Rhobite asked, in the edit summary: any reason we're linking to her opponent's campaign site?
Wow, I can't believe how poorly this article was written. For example, the following is so extremely partisan that it's almost funny:
"Musgrave also spent time on social issues, particularly authoring bills to deny marriage rights and parental rights for gays and lesbians seeking recognition as families. One of her final, failed bills would have made it much more difficult for same-sex partners to see their partner's children in the hospital during an emergency. Musgrave also cast the only vote against legislation to give battered spouses paid leave from work."06:12, 20 March 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.250.153 ( talk • contribs)
I've removed the following, which was just added back into the article by an anonymous IP user. I removed it because after some extensive google searching, I found NOTHING other than wikipedia (and copies) that stated this. As best as I can tell, the basis for it (or part of it) is a COMMENT in a BLOG. If in fact there is a verifiable source, I'd be happy to see it added back to the article, WITH that source cited. John Broughton 18:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
One of her final, failed bills would have made it much more difficult for same-sex parents to see their children in the hospital during an emergency. Musgrave also cast the only vote against legislation to give battered spouses paid leave from work.
They say that in the sentence is not appropriate and makes the paragraph less neutral. It is an undispuited fact that Ronnie Earle has a history of failed indictments of political enemies of bothe parties. It is also an undisputed fact that Earle had to shop the charges to multiple grand juries. They say that presents non-neutral language designed to diminish the credibility of one side of the facts, it is partisan and should be removed. Bachs
Hey NatusRoma, I see that you found that two of the safest Democrats in the country were critiqued by CREW.... so why is it that the same paragraph about CREW gets removed from Jeffersons (Democrat) wiki entry? I am truly shocked that you are not as aggresive into keeping the CREW paragraph on Jefferson's wiki article as you are republicans. If you hurry you can go include it before anyone reads this. Bachs 21:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
NatusRoma, if you are going to include partisan accusations than both sides must be represented. CREW is a partisan outfit. It is no different than me posting on every Democratic politicians web site what Ann Coulter had to say about them. Since CREW are self admitted partisan activists both sides of the story will be there or no reference to CREW should be mentioned. Therefore just inserting their allegation without all the facts is not neutral, and is partisan and grossly unfair. You have been warned repeatedly about slanting the neutrality of articles and at this point it easily amounts to partisan vandalism. Bachs
I am going to revert much of the edits by this editor and by 192.55.4.36 (a dial-in account which may or may not be different editor). I want to note here that I'm holding off posting details about what might be seen as a pattern of deliberate edits and misreadings of a newspaper article to accomplish POV, to see if my changes are acceptable. John Broughton | Talk 21:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
* 4.1 CREW "20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress" o 4.1.1 Campaign headquarters o 4.1.2 District attorney endorsement * 4.2 Violation of military code * 4.3 Tom DeLay
* 4.1 CREW "20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress" * 4.2 Campaign headquarters * 4.3 District attorney endorsement * 4.4 Violation of military code * 4.5 Tom DeLay
I'm going to go look at content next, but I just wanted to make clear this question on article structure. - O^O 23:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I do not see why this article has been tagged for POV/neutrality. I think the article does a good job explaining both the support and criticisms for Musgrave. I have not come across any blatent weasel words, or anything that could be considered too "far right" or "far left". I believe the tag should be removed, as this article seems as neutral as it can get. Trodaikid1983 22:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I was the one who added the Rolling Stone reference. The magazine website dubbed her as "Christian Soldier", as I originally wrote on this article. But then a user changed it into "Queen of Gay Bashing", which I cannot find reference on the magazine site. Can someone please check and possibly revert it? Wooyi 19:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Edits by Thatpeteguy inserted unnecessary POV as well as messed up the formatting.
Musgrave allows her belief in christianity [sic] to move her away from representing her district truthfully.She [sic] has been called "Bush's rubber stamp" by those who feel she supports his agenda and not thier [sic] interests.
In the
2006 re-election section, official 2006 election results from the CO Sec. State that were sourced were removed as well.
[13] Incorrect provisional numbers were re-inserted. Several reference links were destroyed. This comes close to sabotage of the article. Please don't trash articles like this.
Hawk4free
18:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
To all aspiring spindoctors
It is amazing how some editors hide behind the POV tree whenever they feel the presence of the truth.POV could just as
easily be defined by not allowing opposing viewpoints to be heard.I live in the district Musgrave dictates over
and we all know here that she allows christian mythology to guide her.She has said as much numerous times.So if
I were to quote a news clip of some alternate news agency from this district.....oh wait there are none....hmmm.
guess I'll just have to live in reality and let you folks enjoy your psuedopedia.Cheers! -- Thatpeteguy 23:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)Sir,
I am a Musgrave constituent, which accounts for my interest in this article. Therefore, you do not have a monopoly on this topic. I actually am not a supporter of Musgrave's and don't dispute some of your characterizations of her. However -- while there will always be disputes about objectivity versus subjectivity over articles like this -- I believe that a Wikipedia article is not one's personal forum, and I try to abide by that. What you are doing is a disservice to readers, only slightly different from the vandalism to this article done by Musgrave staff. [14]
Also, please do not overlook the fact that your edits and bad formatting needlessly destroyed the work of others. The reinsertion of inaccurate provisional election returns over the official Secretary of State returns was totally inappropriate.
Regarding Musgrave's statements on religion in public life, there is a section of the article addressing that. Note that it includes specific references.
It seems your issue is with the larger Wikipedia project. Perhaps you should start a blog. Hawk4free 23:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
A passage about Klan's support of Musgrave was repeatedly deleted. She indeed received endorsement from the Klan and there was an inline citation. Why is it removed? Wooyi Talk to me? 16:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Marilyn Musgrave was indicted in the KKK this past year, stating "It was the best thing I have ever did".
The section on 2nd Amendment rights claims she "...successfully passed an amendment..." which begs the question "amendment to what?" Granted, it was probably an amendment to some larger bill that isn't really relevant to the article, but I think the word "amendment" usually shouldn't stand alone. I think the phrase would be better put as she "successfully passed a law..." (The exception to this rule would be phrases like "2nd Amendment" where we know what was amended.) — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 19:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Viz. "Agriculture Committee"
It would be nice to know how many districts are represented on the Committee vs. how many districts there are overall, or vs. how many primarily-agricultural districts there are (or acreage under cultivation, etc.). The Committee's behavior is probably out of line but we can't tell how much so from the numbers given. -- 96.233.95.60 ( talk) 22:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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The National Center for Public Policy Research is a conservative organization dedicated to private property rights. Seems POV to add criticism of the best know national evironmental scorecard, based on a 2002 memo from them, don't ya think? None of the votes covered in the memo refer to 2005 and 2006. If you have a more recent criticism it might be more relevant, maybe LCV incorporated the criticism in their scorecard since 2002 since I find no recent criticism.
NEA fund is incorrect. Its a professional organization (ie labor union) supporting public education and educators...why take that out? It clearly explains what their position is in giving her and F (as does the link), which your edit does not. It's also the largest professional organization in the country...why is that not important in substantiating their criticism? Simplifying their stated legistlative priorties to basically 'nothing' seems POV. I'm sure Musgrave supporters are proud of the 'F' anyway but that's beside the point.
You want to add balance?
How about adding a 'Support' section instead, with a Grade A from the NRA and a 100 approval from the Christian Coalition? I'll start but I don't have time to add all the details and cites right now. Seems a better route than route you took.
Overall, I have no complaints from your edits O^O. You have consistently done a great job increasing accuracy, negating POV, and being fair but this one seems a bit much. Thanks. Tossloss
o^o I understand what you are saying. I have put some effort into a more balanced approach. Try it on for size. If you don't like it better than the existing edit you have my 100% support to completely revert back to the previous edit rather than mess with it at all!!! I'm tired and probably won't be back unless I see vandalism. Thanks again.
PS Also, regarding your main point about lists...I don't know the answer. I guess there would be a line crossed at some point and Maxim Douchebags might definitely be it :) The currently listed ones seem appropriate (to me) as she is notable for her extreme positions on these particular political issues, be they good or bad depending one's POV.
Dear Partisan Editors, please stop posting silliness like accusations that this congressman wants to see mothers die in abortion cases etc etc etc. Keep the information neutral and without POV or others will do it for you. DNC talking points posted with either have the info from the other side added to provide balance or will be removed. Bachs
This sentence "As a Colorado State Representative and Senator, Musgrave spent much of her time authoring bills to defend the institution of marriage by means of denying rights to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered Coloradans and their families" is actually a combination of pro-gay-rights pov and anti-gay-rights pov - quite an accomplishment. Despite the equal time, it's still not neutral. I'm not familiar with Musgrave so I'm not sure that anything I write would be factually accurate. Rhobite 04:37, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
Marraige is not a right, if I had a right to get married than if no one would marry me than my rights would be violated - this and other types of arguments on policy do not belong on a member of congress's wiki entry and is best posted on the gay marraige wiki entry. Bachs
Choice of marriage partners is a right, actually (Loving v. Virginia, 1967).
Marriage has been determined by the Supreme Court of the United States to be a "fundamental" right guarded by the United States Constitution. Your legal reasoning is circular and nonsensical. There is nothing inccorect about the cited sentence. Agrippina Minor 18:49, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
The most recent edit mentioned only her efforts on "marriage", but that conflicts with the information about the bill that would make it harder for gay parents to see their children in the hospital. As a result, I changed the wording. -- JamesB3 06:30, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
None of the allegations against DeLay have been proven. Ronnie Earle, the Tom Delay prosecutor, has a history of indictments against Democrat and Republican political enemies that have failed (see Kay Bailey Hutchison) and it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to several grand juries because some refused to indict. [1] One of the charges filed by Earle was summarily dismissed by trial judge Pat Priest. Earle has partnered up with producers making a movie, called The Big Buy, about his pursuit of DeLay that has been filming since before DeLay was notified of the charges. [2] [3] [4]
This was added because the added statement about Tom Delay is an unproven allegation that is used to make the member of congress guilty by association. Especially when there is much evidence that Ronnie Earle's indictments are politically motivated. You cannot include one side of an unproven allegation and not include the other, its unfair and biased.
In an effort to come to a compromise with editor roma the paragrapgh reads thusly. This way BOTH dems and reps have thir facts represented.
Musgrave received $30,000 in campaign contributions from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's ARMPAC. After DeLay was indicted, Musgrave's opponents attacked her for not returning the money or donating it to charity. [5]Republicans say that the charges by Ronnie Earle against DeLay are politically motivated because Earle has a history of indictments against Democrat and Republican political enemies that have failed (see Kay Bailey Hutchison) and it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to several grand juries because some refused to indict. [6] Republicans also criticized Earle for making a movie called The Big Buy, about his pursuit of DeLay that has been filming since before DeLay was notified of the charges. [7] [8] [9]
In a final compromise with Roma we agreed on this paragrapgh
Musgrave received $30,000 in campaign contributions from former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay's ARMPAC. After DeLay was indicted, Musgrave's opponents attacked her for not returning the money or donating it to charity. [10] Republicans say that the charges against DeLay are politically motivated because prosecutor Ronnie Earle has a history of unsuccessful indictments against political enemies of both parties such as Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), and because it has been widely reported that Earle had to shop the charges to multiple grand juries because one refused to indict. [11] [12]
John, there is no fight, however if you are going to include partisan accusations than both sides must be represented. You have defined "fighting" as showing both sides of the facts, that is a convenient position to take when someone is pushing a partisan point of view or is trying to slant REAL balance or neutrality. So either both sides of the story will be there or no reference to DeLay or CREW should be mentioned. Since ARMPAC has a link, than no mention of DeLay is needed because, according to you, they can follow the link right? CREW is a partisan action committee by their own admission, therefore just inserting their allegation without the other side is not neutral, and is partisan and grossly unfair. Until you come up with a way that provides REAL balance and neutrality this edit will be reverted.
Bachs
NatusRoma, I am sure that this is your opinion, but unfortunately it doesnt reflect reality. The ARMPAC allegations and the CREW allegations have one thing in common, they are both allegations made by known out of the closet partisan players that are unproven. Since this is indeed the case than both sides of the allegation will be told. Bachs
On 17:46, 10 March 2006, Rhobite asked, in the edit summary: any reason we're linking to her opponent's campaign site?
Wow, I can't believe how poorly this article was written. For example, the following is so extremely partisan that it's almost funny:
"Musgrave also spent time on social issues, particularly authoring bills to deny marriage rights and parental rights for gays and lesbians seeking recognition as families. One of her final, failed bills would have made it much more difficult for same-sex partners to see their partner's children in the hospital during an emergency. Musgrave also cast the only vote against legislation to give battered spouses paid leave from work."06:12, 20 March 2006 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.250.153 ( talk • contribs)
I've removed the following, which was just added back into the article by an anonymous IP user. I removed it because after some extensive google searching, I found NOTHING other than wikipedia (and copies) that stated this. As best as I can tell, the basis for it (or part of it) is a COMMENT in a BLOG. If in fact there is a verifiable source, I'd be happy to see it added back to the article, WITH that source cited. John Broughton 18:53, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
One of her final, failed bills would have made it much more difficult for same-sex parents to see their children in the hospital during an emergency. Musgrave also cast the only vote against legislation to give battered spouses paid leave from work.
They say that in the sentence is not appropriate and makes the paragraph less neutral. It is an undispuited fact that Ronnie Earle has a history of failed indictments of political enemies of bothe parties. It is also an undisputed fact that Earle had to shop the charges to multiple grand juries. They say that presents non-neutral language designed to diminish the credibility of one side of the facts, it is partisan and should be removed. Bachs
Hey NatusRoma, I see that you found that two of the safest Democrats in the country were critiqued by CREW.... so why is it that the same paragraph about CREW gets removed from Jeffersons (Democrat) wiki entry? I am truly shocked that you are not as aggresive into keeping the CREW paragraph on Jefferson's wiki article as you are republicans. If you hurry you can go include it before anyone reads this. Bachs 21:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
NatusRoma, if you are going to include partisan accusations than both sides must be represented. CREW is a partisan outfit. It is no different than me posting on every Democratic politicians web site what Ann Coulter had to say about them. Since CREW are self admitted partisan activists both sides of the story will be there or no reference to CREW should be mentioned. Therefore just inserting their allegation without all the facts is not neutral, and is partisan and grossly unfair. You have been warned repeatedly about slanting the neutrality of articles and at this point it easily amounts to partisan vandalism. Bachs
I am going to revert much of the edits by this editor and by 192.55.4.36 (a dial-in account which may or may not be different editor). I want to note here that I'm holding off posting details about what might be seen as a pattern of deliberate edits and misreadings of a newspaper article to accomplish POV, to see if my changes are acceptable. John Broughton | Talk 21:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
* 4.1 CREW "20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress" o 4.1.1 Campaign headquarters o 4.1.2 District attorney endorsement * 4.2 Violation of military code * 4.3 Tom DeLay
* 4.1 CREW "20 Most Corrupt Members of Congress" * 4.2 Campaign headquarters * 4.3 District attorney endorsement * 4.4 Violation of military code * 4.5 Tom DeLay
I'm going to go look at content next, but I just wanted to make clear this question on article structure. - O^O 23:11, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I do not see why this article has been tagged for POV/neutrality. I think the article does a good job explaining both the support and criticisms for Musgrave. I have not come across any blatent weasel words, or anything that could be considered too "far right" or "far left". I believe the tag should be removed, as this article seems as neutral as it can get. Trodaikid1983 22:29, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I was the one who added the Rolling Stone reference. The magazine website dubbed her as "Christian Soldier", as I originally wrote on this article. But then a user changed it into "Queen of Gay Bashing", which I cannot find reference on the magazine site. Can someone please check and possibly revert it? Wooyi 19:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Edits by Thatpeteguy inserted unnecessary POV as well as messed up the formatting.
Musgrave allows her belief in christianity [sic] to move her away from representing her district truthfully.She [sic] has been called "Bush's rubber stamp" by those who feel she supports his agenda and not thier [sic] interests.
In the
2006 re-election section, official 2006 election results from the CO Sec. State that were sourced were removed as well.
[13] Incorrect provisional numbers were re-inserted. Several reference links were destroyed. This comes close to sabotage of the article. Please don't trash articles like this.
Hawk4free
18:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
To all aspiring spindoctors
It is amazing how some editors hide behind the POV tree whenever they feel the presence of the truth.POV could just as
easily be defined by not allowing opposing viewpoints to be heard.I live in the district Musgrave dictates over
and we all know here that she allows christian mythology to guide her.She has said as much numerous times.So if
I were to quote a news clip of some alternate news agency from this district.....oh wait there are none....hmmm.
guess I'll just have to live in reality and let you folks enjoy your psuedopedia.Cheers! -- Thatpeteguy 23:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)Sir,
I am a Musgrave constituent, which accounts for my interest in this article. Therefore, you do not have a monopoly on this topic. I actually am not a supporter of Musgrave's and don't dispute some of your characterizations of her. However -- while there will always be disputes about objectivity versus subjectivity over articles like this -- I believe that a Wikipedia article is not one's personal forum, and I try to abide by that. What you are doing is a disservice to readers, only slightly different from the vandalism to this article done by Musgrave staff. [14]
Also, please do not overlook the fact that your edits and bad formatting needlessly destroyed the work of others. The reinsertion of inaccurate provisional election returns over the official Secretary of State returns was totally inappropriate.
Regarding Musgrave's statements on religion in public life, there is a section of the article addressing that. Note that it includes specific references.
It seems your issue is with the larger Wikipedia project. Perhaps you should start a blog. Hawk4free 23:10, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
A passage about Klan's support of Musgrave was repeatedly deleted. She indeed received endorsement from the Klan and there was an inline citation. Why is it removed? Wooyi Talk to me? 16:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC) Marilyn Musgrave was indicted in the KKK this past year, stating "It was the best thing I have ever did".
The section on 2nd Amendment rights claims she "...successfully passed an amendment..." which begs the question "amendment to what?" Granted, it was probably an amendment to some larger bill that isn't really relevant to the article, but I think the word "amendment" usually shouldn't stand alone. I think the phrase would be better put as she "successfully passed a law..." (The exception to this rule would be phrases like "2nd Amendment" where we know what was amended.) — MiguelMunoz ( talk) 19:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Viz. "Agriculture Committee"
It would be nice to know how many districts are represented on the Committee vs. how many districts there are overall, or vs. how many primarily-agricultural districts there are (or acreage under cultivation, etc.). The Committee's behavior is probably out of line but we can't tell how much so from the numbers given. -- 96.233.95.60 ( talk) 22:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
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