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I've seen her reported as both a "lesbian" and "bisexual". "Lesbian" seems to be more common, but I haven't been able to find any self-identification. The closest I've seen is this article in which she seems to speak about lesbians in the first person ("buscamos representatividades das mulheres, mulheres negras, mulheres lésbicas, mulheres faveladas ... Nossas vidas importam"). There was some edit-warring going on over this earlier, so I changed it to "member of the LGBT community", but it would be great if we could get something better than that. -- irn ( talk) 19:17, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I was a bit confused as may others have been as to the translation for the title (”Young Black Women Moving Structures”) of the round-table she attended before she was assassinated (it's very important we know more about that)... Glenn Greenwald is a good source for this and I saw this tweet of his: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/974234883064303617 He's a very reputable journalist in Brazil who knows the local language well, so I think we should look to him for more info on how to explain this as there are very few good English sources right now about this because of the language barrier. I see some mistranslations as some sources are translating this as Moving Structures which is just weird in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petrichor ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I changed it to
Young black women, and then
RedUser changed it to
Black Youngsters, stating black is gender-free in english, it also makes "women" the substantive of the subject, while it don't appear on the original
. Precisely because black is gender-free in English, but "negras" is not, we need another word in there to show that "jovens negras" refers specifically to young black women. We do have
at least once source that translates it as "Young black women". --
irn (
talk)
01:15, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
? Mangotrue ( talk) 01:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Just going off of some of the news speculating potential involvement of Bolsonaro in the assassination of Marielle Franco it may be a smart move to create a separate article entirely dedicated to said assassination Melias C ( talk) 07:28, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Seems relevant? https://epoca.globo.com/guilherme-amado/presidente-da-oab-diz-que-quem-apoia-bolsonaro-tem-desvio-de-carater-1-24131220 Rafe87 ( talk) 23:11, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Successive paragraphs say the following.
and
What happened regarding the two named in the first sentence? And the second? Are the two mentioned in the first sentence the same two mentioned in the second sentence? It's confusing. And what has happened to the arrested? The last two were arrested more than a year ago, so what is the status now? Moriori ( talk) 22:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
A news item involving Marielle Franco was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 18 March 2018. |
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I've seen her reported as both a "lesbian" and "bisexual". "Lesbian" seems to be more common, but I haven't been able to find any self-identification. The closest I've seen is this article in which she seems to speak about lesbians in the first person ("buscamos representatividades das mulheres, mulheres negras, mulheres lésbicas, mulheres faveladas ... Nossas vidas importam"). There was some edit-warring going on over this earlier, so I changed it to "member of the LGBT community", but it would be great if we could get something better than that. -- irn ( talk) 19:17, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
I was a bit confused as may others have been as to the translation for the title (”Young Black Women Moving Structures”) of the round-table she attended before she was assassinated (it's very important we know more about that)... Glenn Greenwald is a good source for this and I saw this tweet of his: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/974234883064303617 He's a very reputable journalist in Brazil who knows the local language well, so I think we should look to him for more info on how to explain this as there are very few good English sources right now about this because of the language barrier. I see some mistranslations as some sources are translating this as Moving Structures which is just weird in English. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petrichor ( talk • contribs) 01:54, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
I changed it to
Young black women, and then
RedUser changed it to
Black Youngsters, stating black is gender-free in english, it also makes "women" the substantive of the subject, while it don't appear on the original
. Precisely because black is gender-free in English, but "negras" is not, we need another word in there to show that "jovens negras" refers specifically to young black women. We do have
at least once source that translates it as "Young black women". --
irn (
talk)
01:15, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
? Mangotrue ( talk) 01:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Just going off of some of the news speculating potential involvement of Bolsonaro in the assassination of Marielle Franco it may be a smart move to create a separate article entirely dedicated to said assassination Melias C ( talk) 07:28, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Seems relevant? https://epoca.globo.com/guilherme-amado/presidente-da-oab-diz-que-quem-apoia-bolsonaro-tem-desvio-de-carater-1-24131220 Rafe87 ( talk) 23:11, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Successive paragraphs say the following.
and
What happened regarding the two named in the first sentence? And the second? Are the two mentioned in the first sentence the same two mentioned in the second sentence? It's confusing. And what has happened to the arrested? The last two were arrested more than a year ago, so what is the status now? Moriori ( talk) 22:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)