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Shouldn't it be mentioned that Punkicon Joey Ramone (RIP) dedicated a song to her on his solo album? To me it sounds real bizarre that he did a song about her. 92.201.104.158 ( talk) 03:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
it seems the last ip took out serious controversies of this person, stop being combative and blaming other —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122589423KM ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
This article needs work? [03:43, 30 April 2005 65.54.154.13]
not anymore. Clinevol98 22:55, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Woah...the last "editor" of this section took out a LOT of info...an unnecessary move.
-Agreed...reverted back to previous page vikramsidhu 13:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
The article indicates that Maria was listed #81 on the FHM 100 Sexiest Women in the World 2003 list. The link points to a Wikipedia article which has Catherine Bell (an actress who bears a resemblance to Ms. Bartiromo) at #81.
In another instance of questionable ethics, in 2003 Bartiromo once interviewed Citigroup's CEO, Sanford I. Weill, and stammered that she owned 1,000 shares of Citigroup stock. A number of journalism boards consider it unethical for reporters to own shares in the companies on which they report, and CNBC was later required to redraft its admittedly loose reporting guidelines, which have been described as "boosterish, gossipy and more than a little starry-eyed." [1] [2] I just removed the following from the article for now:
The Wall Street Journal and Financial Times reported on 2007-01-24 that the head of Citigroup's wealth management unit, Todd Thomson, was forced to resign in part because of spending company money on functions involving Bartiromo. Thomson was advised by Citigroup executives to reduce his contact with Bartiromo after the two were seen together around Manhattan, the Journal reported. But he spent $5 million to sponsor a Sundance Channel program co-hosted by Bartiromo, and the two flew back together from a business function in Asia on Citigroup's corporate jet. Bartiromo is no longer hosting the Sundance program, but it is rumored that she has flown on Thomson's jet several times, vacationed with him at his private Montana ski lodge, as well as dined with him behind the back of Citigroup's board. Thomson, after gifting $500,000 to the Wharton School in 2004, also had Bartiromo added to the advisory board for a special commission. She and Thomson were then suspiciously co-hosts of a later leadership conference at Wharton in 2005. Speculation continues to run rampant through Wall Street as to the nature of her and Thomson's relationship, but it is possible that her marriage has grown sour over her husband's recent financial hardship and business failure. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
We do need to cover this story, but this paragraph needs to be a lot tighter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimbo Wales ( talk • contribs) 03:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
I also removed this, but I am putting it in a different section here on the talk page, since it is a different issue:
In another instance of questionable ethics, in 2003 Bartiromo once interviewed Citigroup's CEO, Sanford I. Weill, and stammered that she owned 1,000 shares of Citigroup stock. A number of journalism boards consider it unethical for reporters to own shares in the companies on which they report, and CNBC was later required to redraft its admittedly loose reporting guidelines, which have been described as "boosterish, gossipy and more than a little starry-eyed." [8] [9]
I think it is not for Wikipedia to make a judgment about "questionable ethics" and this paragraph currently does. Additionally, CNBC was later "required" to redraft some guidelines? Required by whom? And would those guidelines have prevented her either before the redrafting, or even after the redrafting, from owning stocks? Is it really impossible for financial journalists to own any stock? 1,000 shares of Citibank stock would not be a very important asset for someone like Bartiromo, so is this "scandal" really worth of mention?-- Jimbo Wales 03:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
"He currently is scheduling to release his book 'The Other Bartiromo' as soon as a publisher signs on."
If an author is still looking for a publisher, he can't really said to be "scheduling" the release date of the book. He's simply hoping there will be one! A different matter. (I know this too well.) -- Christofurio 21:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, are we quoting just about anything these days? If you are going to put the standards of quotes that low, you mine as well add her saying "Honey, do you like what I am wearing?" or "Pass the salt please" to this impressive collection. The quotes presented are a waste of what could have been productive characters in another subtopic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.247.212 ( talk) 06:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Add'l: Reference to a relatively obscure Weiner quote removed again. Financial reporters are right half the time and wrong half the time. The purpose of this entry is not to factcheck every statement Bartiromo has ever made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.229.108 ( talk) 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the Weiner anecdote and placed an NPOV tag on this article. The tag is warranted because, even with the Weiner anecdote removed, the "Controversies" section is too large for an article of this size. The Weiner anecdote was inadequately sourced. The sourcing consisted of blogs and blatant synthesis from this article [10] in the Daily Telegraph that doesn't mention Bartiromo. For the Erbitux stuff to be used, one needs to cite an article specifically mentioning Bartiromo. Wikipedia editors are not allowed to conduct original research of this kind. The Weiner stuff is otherwise just not adequately sourced. Blogs are not reliable sources in general, and certainly not as sources for inflammatory material in BLPs. I've removed, and I'm taking this to BLP/N as I think editors need to review the Controversies section generally. I haven't had a chance to examine it, and it may well be that all of the Controversies section is this badly sourced. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 01:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the tag because an editor correctly removed the controversies section. But this is still a sad excuse for an article. This lady has accomplished so much, despite all her missteps, and yet there seems to be a constant struggle over controversies. If properly sourced they may have a place in a real article about this person, not the bare-bones stuff thrown together here. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 03:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm more interested in the controversial life of Maria than any of the other information in this article. Removing controversy sections altogether without creating an archive of the information in the talk section is unwarranted. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:F8DD:360:63F2:C68 ( talk) 15:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I also believe Ms. Bartiromo’s article does not reflect how her reputation has declined.
I listed some links below; they were left but the comments deleted. There is no doubt her move to Fox has harmed her reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.192.29 ( talk) 06:05, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
In the lead: "She was the first reporter to broadcast live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange."
In the Career section: "Although Bartiromo was not the first person (she took over from analyst Roy Blumberg) to report regularly live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, she quickly became the most popular."
Which is it? Or does the word "regularly" make all the difference? And where are the sources?
TuckerResearch ( talk) 07:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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E.G. “Bartiromo, who has morphed from respected business reporter to unapologetic Trump booster” https://www.thedailybeast.com/maria-bartiromo-erupts-when-fox-colleague-wonders-why-trumps-still-talking-about-hillarys-emails — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.193.59 ( talk) 08:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/29/media/bartiromo-trump-interview/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.193.59 ( talk) 06:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/16/fox-dominion-bartiromo-covid-election (someone deleted my original post, not sure why, but here is another link with similar information. It should be addressed in the article.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.192.29 ( talk) 07:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Obviously, Fox should not be considered a respectable news source, but Maria used to be considered an excellent financial reporter:
https://www.salon.com/2023/11/14/brian-stelter-fox-network-of-lies-tucker-carlson-maria-bartiromo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4300:EE90:1D23:D43D:D1F5:993D ( talk) 01:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
I disagree with the use of the word "infatuation" to describe Joey Ramones' feelings towards Bartiromo. Infatuation is defined as, quote, "an intense but short-lived passion or admiration". And the indicated source - a 2006 article in The Guardian - mentions nothing about an infatuation. Bartiromo herself is quoted as calling it a "friendship". I'm going to change it....if the source doesn't include it, "infatuation" doesn't belong. Elsquared ( talk) 21:43, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
A few days ago, this content [11] was removed. A number of reliable sources are cited. A variation of the content should be in the article. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 13:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
There are multiple reliable sources calling out Bartiromo's tacit support of Trump conspiracy theories. This is a key controversy in her career as she has been a respected journalist. The article "What ever happened to Maria Bartiromo?" in the LA Times is an example. -- Green C 14:41, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Charles, wordsmithing can always correct needless repetition, so careful editing can solve that one. The more serious aspect would be "written in a POV manner". Precisely which words are you referring to? Please clarify. -- Valjean ( talk) 22:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
The "Trump" section is biased, it states as fact what are instead just basic pejorative comments, such as references to Trump "falsehoods and conspiracy theories" -- that's just garden variety anti-Trump nonsense that is spewed out on the degraded news media. Repeating it here undermines the goal of making Wiki a scholarly source and not simply a tabloid outlet. It's fine for the Huffington Post to put this kind of material on their website, but here it serves to confirm the criticism that Wiki is liberally biased. That section needs a substantial rewrite -- I would do it, but I'm reasonably sure the squirrels would revert it in a second. Sych ( talk) 12:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
While I'm not sure the contributions of "CharlesShirley" in this Talk section should be removed, I do think it's worth calling-out here that if you browse to CharlesShirley, you see the following "This account is a sockpuppet of NazariyKaminski, and has been blocked indefinitely.", and if you browse to NazariyKaminski, you see the following: "This account has been blocked indefinitely because its owner is suspected of abusively using multiple accounts." EricTN ( talk) 03:13, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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In the Introduction, the term "softball interview" is too informal and the blue link to it is for some academic thing. Replace with "interviews that declined to challenge his assertions". Spell out Los Angeles Times, because "LA Times" is too informal. 68.199.42.28 ( talk) 16:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
'These references long held gospel by WIKIPEDIA standards' - and their in lies one of many problems with Wikipedia. No wonder 20 years later Wikipedia still isn't considered to be a valid source. Shame as it had a lot of potential before the woke and lefties got a hold of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.190.28 ( talk) 18:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Doubt there would be a place on the page for this, but, while doing research I came across a couple rodeo sites and apparently there is a professional rodeo horse named after her that took 1st place in a couple strings. Not sure if that, if sourced better, would be something for popular culture or other another section. I normally add references and do clean ups on pages and rarely add content, per se, so I'll hang it out there for someone else to decide. [13] Wrangler Network Country Magazine P37307 ( talk) 03:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
What specifically is being disputed? Sundayclose ( talk) 16:54, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Pinging CharlesShirley. Sundayclose ( talk) 17:53, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
It should be covered but not unduly weighted. It should not be anywhere near as long as the coverage of her long pioneering career at CNBC. Keep it in historical perspective. 68.199.42.28 ( talk) 14:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
In relation to this, there are more than a few instances where opinion is being presented as fact. It certainly isn't neutral considering most of the refs are to left-leaning sources (CNN, CNBC, WP) and others that aren't reliable (Vox and Daily Beast). I tried making edits but was accused of not providing summaries (I did), violating NPOV and vandalism. There are a couple of statements in the article that could be considered libelous that I removed (and indicated so) but 'VANDALISM'. 173.56.190.28 ( talk) 18:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Delete "and far-right conspiracy theorist" from the opening sentence and revise the remaining sentence structure accordingly. This phrase is an inflammatory, politicization of this webpage. No substantial support is provided and it is pure opinion, intentionally placed there by leftists who wish to hijack Wikipedia for propaganda.
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Shouldn't it be mentioned that Punkicon Joey Ramone (RIP) dedicated a song to her on his solo album? To me it sounds real bizarre that he did a song about her. 92.201.104.158 ( talk) 03:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
it seems the last ip took out serious controversies of this person, stop being combative and blaming other —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122589423KM ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
This article needs work? [03:43, 30 April 2005 65.54.154.13]
not anymore. Clinevol98 22:55, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Woah...the last "editor" of this section took out a LOT of info...an unnecessary move.
-Agreed...reverted back to previous page vikramsidhu 13:47, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
The article indicates that Maria was listed #81 on the FHM 100 Sexiest Women in the World 2003 list. The link points to a Wikipedia article which has Catherine Bell (an actress who bears a resemblance to Ms. Bartiromo) at #81.
In another instance of questionable ethics, in 2003 Bartiromo once interviewed Citigroup's CEO, Sanford I. Weill, and stammered that she owned 1,000 shares of Citigroup stock. A number of journalism boards consider it unethical for reporters to own shares in the companies on which they report, and CNBC was later required to redraft its admittedly loose reporting guidelines, which have been described as "boosterish, gossipy and more than a little starry-eyed." [1] [2] I just removed the following from the article for now:
The Wall Street Journal and Financial Times reported on 2007-01-24 that the head of Citigroup's wealth management unit, Todd Thomson, was forced to resign in part because of spending company money on functions involving Bartiromo. Thomson was advised by Citigroup executives to reduce his contact with Bartiromo after the two were seen together around Manhattan, the Journal reported. But he spent $5 million to sponsor a Sundance Channel program co-hosted by Bartiromo, and the two flew back together from a business function in Asia on Citigroup's corporate jet. Bartiromo is no longer hosting the Sundance program, but it is rumored that she has flown on Thomson's jet several times, vacationed with him at his private Montana ski lodge, as well as dined with him behind the back of Citigroup's board. Thomson, after gifting $500,000 to the Wharton School in 2004, also had Bartiromo added to the advisory board for a special commission. She and Thomson were then suspiciously co-hosts of a later leadership conference at Wharton in 2005. Speculation continues to run rampant through Wall Street as to the nature of her and Thomson's relationship, but it is possible that her marriage has grown sour over her husband's recent financial hardship and business failure. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
We do need to cover this story, but this paragraph needs to be a lot tighter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jimbo Wales ( talk • contribs) 03:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
I also removed this, but I am putting it in a different section here on the talk page, since it is a different issue:
In another instance of questionable ethics, in 2003 Bartiromo once interviewed Citigroup's CEO, Sanford I. Weill, and stammered that she owned 1,000 shares of Citigroup stock. A number of journalism boards consider it unethical for reporters to own shares in the companies on which they report, and CNBC was later required to redraft its admittedly loose reporting guidelines, which have been described as "boosterish, gossipy and more than a little starry-eyed." [8] [9]
I think it is not for Wikipedia to make a judgment about "questionable ethics" and this paragraph currently does. Additionally, CNBC was later "required" to redraft some guidelines? Required by whom? And would those guidelines have prevented her either before the redrafting, or even after the redrafting, from owning stocks? Is it really impossible for financial journalists to own any stock? 1,000 shares of Citibank stock would not be a very important asset for someone like Bartiromo, so is this "scandal" really worth of mention?-- Jimbo Wales 03:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
"He currently is scheduling to release his book 'The Other Bartiromo' as soon as a publisher signs on."
If an author is still looking for a publisher, he can't really said to be "scheduling" the release date of the book. He's simply hoping there will be one! A different matter. (I know this too well.) -- Christofurio 21:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Seriously, are we quoting just about anything these days? If you are going to put the standards of quotes that low, you mine as well add her saying "Honey, do you like what I am wearing?" or "Pass the salt please" to this impressive collection. The quotes presented are a waste of what could have been productive characters in another subtopic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.247.212 ( talk) 06:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Add'l: Reference to a relatively obscure Weiner quote removed again. Financial reporters are right half the time and wrong half the time. The purpose of this entry is not to factcheck every statement Bartiromo has ever made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.229.108 ( talk) 14:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the Weiner anecdote and placed an NPOV tag on this article. The tag is warranted because, even with the Weiner anecdote removed, the "Controversies" section is too large for an article of this size. The Weiner anecdote was inadequately sourced. The sourcing consisted of blogs and blatant synthesis from this article [10] in the Daily Telegraph that doesn't mention Bartiromo. For the Erbitux stuff to be used, one needs to cite an article specifically mentioning Bartiromo. Wikipedia editors are not allowed to conduct original research of this kind. The Weiner stuff is otherwise just not adequately sourced. Blogs are not reliable sources in general, and certainly not as sources for inflammatory material in BLPs. I've removed, and I'm taking this to BLP/N as I think editors need to review the Controversies section generally. I haven't had a chance to examine it, and it may well be that all of the Controversies section is this badly sourced. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 01:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the tag because an editor correctly removed the controversies section. But this is still a sad excuse for an article. This lady has accomplished so much, despite all her missteps, and yet there seems to be a constant struggle over controversies. If properly sourced they may have a place in a real article about this person, not the bare-bones stuff thrown together here. -- JohnnyB256 ( talk) 03:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm more interested in the controversial life of Maria than any of the other information in this article. Removing controversy sections altogether without creating an archive of the information in the talk section is unwarranted. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:F8DD:360:63F2:C68 ( talk) 15:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I also believe Ms. Bartiromo’s article does not reflect how her reputation has declined.
I listed some links below; they were left but the comments deleted. There is no doubt her move to Fox has harmed her reputation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.192.29 ( talk) 06:05, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
In the lead: "She was the first reporter to broadcast live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange."
In the Career section: "Although Bartiromo was not the first person (she took over from analyst Roy Blumberg) to report regularly live from the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, she quickly became the most popular."
Which is it? Or does the word "regularly" make all the difference? And where are the sources?
TuckerResearch ( talk) 07:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
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E.G. “Bartiromo, who has morphed from respected business reporter to unapologetic Trump booster” https://www.thedailybeast.com/maria-bartiromo-erupts-when-fox-colleague-wonders-why-trumps-still-talking-about-hillarys-emails — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.193.59 ( talk) 08:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/29/media/bartiromo-trump-interview/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.193.59 ( talk) 06:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/03/16/fox-dominion-bartiromo-covid-election (someone deleted my original post, not sure why, but here is another link with similar information. It should be addressed in the article.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.192.29 ( talk) 07:08, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
Obviously, Fox should not be considered a respectable news source, but Maria used to be considered an excellent financial reporter:
https://www.salon.com/2023/11/14/brian-stelter-fox-network-of-lies-tucker-carlson-maria-bartiromo/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:4300:EE90:1D23:D43D:D1F5:993D ( talk) 01:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
I disagree with the use of the word "infatuation" to describe Joey Ramones' feelings towards Bartiromo. Infatuation is defined as, quote, "an intense but short-lived passion or admiration". And the indicated source - a 2006 article in The Guardian - mentions nothing about an infatuation. Bartiromo herself is quoted as calling it a "friendship". I'm going to change it....if the source doesn't include it, "infatuation" doesn't belong. Elsquared ( talk) 21:43, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
A few days ago, this content [11] was removed. A number of reliable sources are cited. A variation of the content should be in the article. Snooganssnoogans ( talk) 13:26, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
There are multiple reliable sources calling out Bartiromo's tacit support of Trump conspiracy theories. This is a key controversy in her career as she has been a respected journalist. The article "What ever happened to Maria Bartiromo?" in the LA Times is an example. -- Green C 14:41, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Charles, wordsmithing can always correct needless repetition, so careful editing can solve that one. The more serious aspect would be "written in a POV manner". Precisely which words are you referring to? Please clarify. -- Valjean ( talk) 22:04, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
The "Trump" section is biased, it states as fact what are instead just basic pejorative comments, such as references to Trump "falsehoods and conspiracy theories" -- that's just garden variety anti-Trump nonsense that is spewed out on the degraded news media. Repeating it here undermines the goal of making Wiki a scholarly source and not simply a tabloid outlet. It's fine for the Huffington Post to put this kind of material on their website, but here it serves to confirm the criticism that Wiki is liberally biased. That section needs a substantial rewrite -- I would do it, but I'm reasonably sure the squirrels would revert it in a second. Sych ( talk) 12:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
While I'm not sure the contributions of "CharlesShirley" in this Talk section should be removed, I do think it's worth calling-out here that if you browse to CharlesShirley, you see the following "This account is a sockpuppet of NazariyKaminski, and has been blocked indefinitely.", and if you browse to NazariyKaminski, you see the following: "This account has been blocked indefinitely because its owner is suspected of abusively using multiple accounts." EricTN ( talk) 03:13, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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In the Introduction, the term "softball interview" is too informal and the blue link to it is for some academic thing. Replace with "interviews that declined to challenge his assertions". Spell out Los Angeles Times, because "LA Times" is too informal. 68.199.42.28 ( talk) 16:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
'These references long held gospel by WIKIPEDIA standards' - and their in lies one of many problems with Wikipedia. No wonder 20 years later Wikipedia still isn't considered to be a valid source. Shame as it had a lot of potential before the woke and lefties got a hold of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.56.190.28 ( talk) 18:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Doubt there would be a place on the page for this, but, while doing research I came across a couple rodeo sites and apparently there is a professional rodeo horse named after her that took 1st place in a couple strings. Not sure if that, if sourced better, would be something for popular culture or other another section. I normally add references and do clean ups on pages and rarely add content, per se, so I'll hang it out there for someone else to decide. [13] Wrangler Network Country Magazine P37307 ( talk) 03:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
What specifically is being disputed? Sundayclose ( talk) 16:54, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Pinging CharlesShirley. Sundayclose ( talk) 17:53, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
It should be covered but not unduly weighted. It should not be anywhere near as long as the coverage of her long pioneering career at CNBC. Keep it in historical perspective. 68.199.42.28 ( talk) 14:50, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
In relation to this, there are more than a few instances where opinion is being presented as fact. It certainly isn't neutral considering most of the refs are to left-leaning sources (CNN, CNBC, WP) and others that aren't reliable (Vox and Daily Beast). I tried making edits but was accused of not providing summaries (I did), violating NPOV and vandalism. There are a couple of statements in the article that could be considered libelous that I removed (and indicated so) but 'VANDALISM'. 173.56.190.28 ( talk) 18:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
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Delete "and far-right conspiracy theorist" from the opening sentence and revise the remaining sentence structure accordingly. This phrase is an inflammatory, politicization of this webpage. No substantial support is provided and it is pure opinion, intentionally placed there by leftists who wish to hijack Wikipedia for propaganda.
Any such allegations should be made in the body of the article, be neutral in nature, provide adequate support and rebuttal, and be made within the broader context of the biography. Bromo99 ( talk) 22:09, 12 July 2021 (UTC)