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she converted to orthodoxy and changed her name (shortly) before her marriage. Thus, Maria Alexandrovna is her pre-marital name, and also very clearly the name she was best known. Therefore I feel that the article (now Marie of Hesse and by Rhine) could be renamed Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse. 217.140.193.123 6 July 2005 07:53 (UTC)
IMO those parenthetical disambiguations are messy. As this "Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse)" is already very close to Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse, please move this to that heading. Unnecessary to use parentheses when one word, "Hesse", instead, makes the same. 217.140.193.123 16:51, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I find the present title acceptable, and preferable to that suggested above by an anonymous user. Deb 17:51, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I disagree. WP naming conventions dictate that the deceased wife of a sovereign should be named with her maiden name and country. Ex: Mary of Teck, Alice of the United Kingdom. Not to mention, this current title is ambiguous with Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia. Switching these to Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse and Maria Alexandrovna of Russia would provide some disambiguation. -- Matjlav (talk) 20:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse). There's also a consensus to move Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine back to Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine (1874–1878) and redirect the old page to this title. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse and by Rhine) →
Marie of Hesse and by Rhine – This proposed title is in line with
WP:CONSORTS, and it's also unambiguous. The present title is bad because it uses parenthesis to give alternate name of the subject, but parenthesis should be used for
WP:parenthetical disambiguation instead.
Vanjagenije
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13:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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she converted to orthodoxy and changed her name (shortly) before her marriage. Thus, Maria Alexandrovna is her pre-marital name, and also very clearly the name she was best known. Therefore I feel that the article (now Marie of Hesse and by Rhine) could be renamed Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse. 217.140.193.123 6 July 2005 07:53 (UTC)
IMO those parenthetical disambiguations are messy. As this "Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse)" is already very close to Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse, please move this to that heading. Unnecessary to use parentheses when one word, "Hesse", instead, makes the same. 217.140.193.123 16:51, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I find the present title acceptable, and preferable to that suggested above by an anonymous user. Deb 17:51, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
I disagree. WP naming conventions dictate that the deceased wife of a sovereign should be named with her maiden name and country. Ex: Mary of Teck, Alice of the United Kingdom. Not to mention, this current title is ambiguous with Grand Duchess Maria Alexandrovna of Russia. Switching these to Maria Alexandrovna of Hesse and Maria Alexandrovna of Russia would provide some disambiguation. -- Matjlav (talk) 20:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse). There's also a consensus to move Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine back to Princess Marie of Hesse and by Rhine (1874–1878) and redirect the old page to this title. Jenks24 ( talk) 09:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Maria Alexandrovna (Marie of Hesse and by Rhine) →
Marie of Hesse and by Rhine – This proposed title is in line with
WP:CONSORTS, and it's also unambiguous. The present title is bad because it uses parenthesis to give alternate name of the subject, but parenthesis should be used for
WP:parenthetical disambiguation instead.
Vanjagenije
(talk)
13:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
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