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The result of the debate was move to Marian Gaborik. Joelito ( talk) 14:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I am requesting that this article be moved from Marián Gáborík to Marian Gaborik because the most common way of spelling it in English is Marian Gaborik and not Marián Gáborík. My requested move is backed up by:
A quick google search, minus wikipedia, english only websites, clearly reveals that Marian Gaborik is the most common way to refer to this article in English [1]
Those are just the top ten webpages from a quick google search. A quick look at the next ten on a google search also makes it clear that the diacritic form of the article spelling is rare in English, if at all. Not only do reputable websites not include diacritics, but English newspapers, such as the Vancouver Province also omit them. It is very clear that the current article title is wrong and must be moved. Masterhatch 18:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This is not a survey encompassing all of wikipeida. This is not a survey encompassing all of hockey wikipedia. The outcome of this survey will only affect this article, Marian Gaborik. If you are interested in discussing whether or not wikipedia should use diacritics as a whole in article titles, then go here Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics). This survey is only regarding whether this article title should be Marián Gáborík or Marian Gaborik. Masterhatch 00:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Before you vote, ask yourself a few simple questions.
Before you vote, remove any personal point of view you may have on the matter. Vote keeping wikipedia policies and guidelines in mind. If you have a problem with certain policies and guidelines, there are talk pages to visit and voice your opinion. Masterhatch 00:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
excellent point Aottley. Masterhatch 22:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
comment Uppland, it is really nice that you pointed to other unrelated wikipedia articles and external links that use diacritics, but it would be great if you pointed out where English uses Marian Gaborik's name with diacritics? Because isn't that what this is all about? Masterhatch 23:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Have we considered using redirects? DMighton 13:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment How is it "less informative"? What's wrong with putting the diacriticized (?) version of the name in brackets beside the first instance of the name in the title? (e.g. "Marian Gaborik (sk: Marián Gáborík) is a...")
The main article page was moved, but the talk page wasn't. Anyway to get that fixed? Masterhatch 15:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I don't mind that this page has been moved to diacritcals. However it's movement goes against the Consensus reached (at this page) to keep it without diacriticals. Furthermore at bio=yes/Player pages format|WPP, Player pages decided for themselves, concerning usage or non-usage of diacriticals. This page earlier, had decided to go as 'Marian Gaborik'. So, why has it been moved to the contrary? GoodDay 19:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Consensus vote at this page, concerning the title, is to 'remove' diacriticals. I've therefore, moved this page to conform with consensus.
GoodDay
22:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Can someone get a good picture to go with the article? That's about all it needs.
I noticed that the article was moved back to Marián Gáborík by
Darwinek despite the previous vote to not use diacritics. I changed it back to Marian Gaborik, but after discussions with Darwinek, I learned that most other Slovak and Czech players have the diacritics in the title. For example see
List of Slovaks in the NHL. If you click on the names of people who's name usually has diacritics you will see that their page has them. So, about a year after voting ruled to not to use diacritics, I think we do need them to keep the article the same way as others. I request to move Marian Gaborik to Marián Gáborík. Leave your vote and reason on the requested move below. Please conduct the vote in a similar fashion to the one
above.
WildFan48
20:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Please disregard the above as it has been determined that hockey players should have diacritics by bio=yes. See here. WildFan48 19:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
This guy clearly is just making up information and saying that Gaborik has been traded to the Canucks. He even put a picture in the entry which is obviously a Photoshop job of Gaborik (supposedly from the 08-09 preseason). One problem with that, the 08-09 preseason doesn't start until at least after the 07-08 season is over! Absolutely ridiculous. -- Reezy ( talk) 17:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Passerby IPs, are making a joke of this article. GoodDay ( talk) 19:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
NHL.com has 18+18=36, but this article 21+21=42. Which is right? 85.217.14.140 ( talk) 18:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC) 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 points are also different. 85.217.14.140 ( talk) 19:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was move to Marian Gaborik. Joelito ( talk) 14:12, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I am requesting that this article be moved from Marián Gáborík to Marian Gaborik because the most common way of spelling it in English is Marian Gaborik and not Marián Gáborík. My requested move is backed up by:
A quick google search, minus wikipedia, english only websites, clearly reveals that Marian Gaborik is the most common way to refer to this article in English [1]
Those are just the top ten webpages from a quick google search. A quick look at the next ten on a google search also makes it clear that the diacritic form of the article spelling is rare in English, if at all. Not only do reputable websites not include diacritics, but English newspapers, such as the Vancouver Province also omit them. It is very clear that the current article title is wrong and must be moved. Masterhatch 18:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This is not a survey encompassing all of wikipeida. This is not a survey encompassing all of hockey wikipedia. The outcome of this survey will only affect this article, Marian Gaborik. If you are interested in discussing whether or not wikipedia should use diacritics as a whole in article titles, then go here Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics). This survey is only regarding whether this article title should be Marián Gáborík or Marian Gaborik. Masterhatch 00:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Before you vote, ask yourself a few simple questions.
Before you vote, remove any personal point of view you may have on the matter. Vote keeping wikipedia policies and guidelines in mind. If you have a problem with certain policies and guidelines, there are talk pages to visit and voice your opinion. Masterhatch 00:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
excellent point Aottley. Masterhatch 22:44, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
comment Uppland, it is really nice that you pointed to other unrelated wikipedia articles and external links that use diacritics, but it would be great if you pointed out where English uses Marian Gaborik's name with diacritics? Because isn't that what this is all about? Masterhatch 23:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Have we considered using redirects? DMighton 13:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Comment How is it "less informative"? What's wrong with putting the diacriticized (?) version of the name in brackets beside the first instance of the name in the title? (e.g. "Marian Gaborik (sk: Marián Gáborík) is a...")
The main article page was moved, but the talk page wasn't. Anyway to get that fixed? Masterhatch 15:27, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Personally, I don't mind that this page has been moved to diacritcals. However it's movement goes against the Consensus reached (at this page) to keep it without diacriticals. Furthermore at bio=yes/Player pages format|WPP, Player pages decided for themselves, concerning usage or non-usage of diacriticals. This page earlier, had decided to go as 'Marian Gaborik'. So, why has it been moved to the contrary? GoodDay 19:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
::: Consensus vote at this page, concerning the title, is to 'remove' diacriticals. I've therefore, moved this page to conform with consensus.
GoodDay
22:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Can someone get a good picture to go with the article? That's about all it needs.
I noticed that the article was moved back to Marián Gáborík by
Darwinek despite the previous vote to not use diacritics. I changed it back to Marian Gaborik, but after discussions with Darwinek, I learned that most other Slovak and Czech players have the diacritics in the title. For example see
List of Slovaks in the NHL. If you click on the names of people who's name usually has diacritics you will see that their page has them. So, about a year after voting ruled to not to use diacritics, I think we do need them to keep the article the same way as others. I request to move Marian Gaborik to Marián Gáborík. Leave your vote and reason on the requested move below. Please conduct the vote in a similar fashion to the one
above.
WildFan48
20:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
Please disregard the above as it has been determined that hockey players should have diacritics by bio=yes. See here. WildFan48 19:58, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
This guy clearly is just making up information and saying that Gaborik has been traded to the Canucks. He even put a picture in the entry which is obviously a Photoshop job of Gaborik (supposedly from the 08-09 preseason). One problem with that, the 08-09 preseason doesn't start until at least after the 07-08 season is over! Absolutely ridiculous. -- Reezy ( talk) 17:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Passerby IPs, are making a joke of this article. GoodDay ( talk) 19:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
NHL.com has 18+18=36, but this article 21+21=42. Which is right? 85.217.14.140 ( talk) 18:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC) 2001-2002 and 2002-2003 points are also different. 85.217.14.140 ( talk) 19:46, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
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