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There's currently a comment stating that Steve Rogers (Cap) assigned the Man-Thing to the Thunderbolts as "transportation". The general reader leader is likely to ponder in what fashion a near-mindless much monster can act as transportation (I certainly do). Does it have a pilot's license? A rickshaw perhaps? Or does it possess powers and abilities not covered in that section of its wiki? 2601:0:AF00:34:382D:CF41:9CC5:8E0A ( talk) 03:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems that this page should be removed or combined because it's a duplicate of a wiki article. The original is here Swamp_Thing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devon Vice ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
That is quite funny, actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.201.110 ( talk) 17:33, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
It's a big, big job, and I ask for other editors to help. The FCB contains a lot of material about the writers, etc. Some of it's extraneous, but none of it belongs in this section, which should be written present-tense in-universe throughout (and as the first paragraph seems to be). Any pertinent material about the creators should be in Publication history, and any issues cited in FCB should be within footnotes, all as per WikiProject Comics guidelines. -- Tenebrae 16:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The powers and abilities section is the one stopping this article from moving into the B-class. I haven't worked on this section at all other than to add the line about the increased independence caused by the waste treatment process. Most of this appears to be taken from the Marvel Universe Handbook, possibly excessively verbatim, although it was missing the line about the waste treatment process affecting his powers, which is in the Marvel Universe handbook. In the stories it is more implicit than explicit, since it seems to have been necessary for him to voluntarily make the trip to Atlanta.-- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 21:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Reminded by Dr. Calvin that S.H.I.E.L.D. has warned them that Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis disobeys orders by bringing a woman (later retconned to be his wife, but consistently referred to here as "Miss Brandt"), Ellen Brandt, originally from Wisconsin,[19] to his shack, sleeping with her and telling her about the project as he destroys his notes, believing that the formula now exists only in his head. Motorboating to the laboratory, where his colleague, Harrison, is to pick up the sample, Brandt accompanies him, but they find Harrison collapsed on the floor, and Brandt has prepared an ambush. Fleeing to his car with the only sample of the serum, he injects himself with it, believing that he will become a Super-Soldier (someone of peak human, although not superhuman, abilities) and survive the crash and submersion, drives through a fence and into the swamp. The serum instantly reacts violently with the fen, and, as later explained, magical forces extant in the area, transforming him into...
- Though warned that the technological terrorist group Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis breaches security by bringing with him his lover, Ellen Brandt (later retconned to be his wife, but referred to here as "Miss Brandt"). He destroys his notes to his formula, which he has memorized. Later, at his nearby laboratory, Sallis is ambushed and learns Brandt sold him out. Fleeing with the only sample of his serum, he injects himself with it in hopes of attaining peak-human physicality and saving himself. However, he crashes his car into the swamp where chemical and, as later explained, magical forces instantly transform him into...
This article has been hijacked by a single fanatic fan, and as a result, the Fictional character biography is no more than a fan-page essay with analysis and observations that would in no way be of interest to the general reader or to anyone but a fan. I am tagging this, and I urge other editors to trim this and make it read like an encyclopedia entry.
To the one editor making obsessive edits day after day, please try and pull back and be more objective. The average reader doesn't care about a lot of this incredibly dense detail. With all due respect, you are turning this into your fan page, and that is just not right. Please think of the average reader. -- 69.22.254.108 ( talk) 19:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Naw, it's cool — you've added much major, important information, corrected inaccuracies, and fleshed it all out. We just need to pull back on some of the overdetail and shape it with perspective. But I have great admiration for what you've done. Now it's just a matter of editing and trimming, as happens regularly with professional writers. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 05:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Does this really need Spider-Man and Dark Avengers templates? He's not listed on either one, and is not a major supporting character to either. -- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 17:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
As noted by the deletion of Fictional history of Green Goblin and other recent decisions, WikiProject Comics follows Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction), which does not allow "fictography" and under which fictional-character articles must be written with a real world perspective. This article's FCB, like those of the deleted articles, grossly violates these guidelines and WikiProject Comics consensus. This article requires a group effort to radically trim, to add third-party WP:RS sourcing, and to be brought to encyclopedic standards. I myself and working on another big project, but will return to this article shortly and hope that other editors will help. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 08:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Removal of this
None of this appear to fail verifiability, looks to be original research through an original synthesis of information. The burden of proof is on others here. Systems Theorist ( talk) 20:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Would adding a citation be sufficient to address concerns? Lortho21 ( talk) 20:08, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Should not be included. All WP:OR and WP:SYNTH and source provided by Lortho21 is unreliable. Even so, it would seem the source is stating their opinions on conclusions they drew from the film, not actuality. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I just want to give the regular page watchers here a heads up, that Man-Thing gets a mention in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode 20 (see a preview of it on their Facebook page, around the 30 second mark). Please be aware that people will try to add this to the page and (at least from this preview) it should not be. This has been part of a recurring discussion in the larger comics project, and as it stands (I think), consensus is that mere mentions, opposed to actual appearances, should not be added to the "In other media" sections of pages, or if there is significant third party coverage. Please respond below if you have questions. I'm adding the page to my watchlist for a bit. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:19, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
He was mentioned by name in the last Agents of SHIELD, and his wife (and she IS his wife - same name, same affiliation, same scar, same plant-based research) appeared in Iron Man 3. Short of having him actually slog his way onto the screen, this is about as firmly as a non-appearing character can be established.
Should be added to the film and TV sections. 50.102.133.18 ( talk) 06:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The main image is really not appropriate. Volume 4 is a direct tie-in to the 2005 movie and not "canon," and the character's appearance is based on the movie version, substantially different from how normally depicted. In the context of a Wikipedia article, it's misleading-- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 02:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
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There's currently a comment stating that Steve Rogers (Cap) assigned the Man-Thing to the Thunderbolts as "transportation". The general reader leader is likely to ponder in what fashion a near-mindless much monster can act as transportation (I certainly do). Does it have a pilot's license? A rickshaw perhaps? Or does it possess powers and abilities not covered in that section of its wiki? 2601:0:AF00:34:382D:CF41:9CC5:8E0A ( talk) 03:38, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
It seems that this page should be removed or combined because it's a duplicate of a wiki article. The original is here Swamp_Thing —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devon Vice ( talk • contribs) 01:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
That is quite funny, actually. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.27.201.110 ( talk) 17:33, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
It's a big, big job, and I ask for other editors to help. The FCB contains a lot of material about the writers, etc. Some of it's extraneous, but none of it belongs in this section, which should be written present-tense in-universe throughout (and as the first paragraph seems to be). Any pertinent material about the creators should be in Publication history, and any issues cited in FCB should be within footnotes, all as per WikiProject Comics guidelines. -- Tenebrae 16:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The powers and abilities section is the one stopping this article from moving into the B-class. I haven't worked on this section at all other than to add the line about the increased independence caused by the waste treatment process. Most of this appears to be taken from the Marvel Universe Handbook, possibly excessively verbatim, although it was missing the line about the waste treatment process affecting his powers, which is in the Marvel Universe handbook. In the stories it is more implicit than explicit, since it seems to have been necessary for him to voluntarily make the trip to Atlanta.-- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 21:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Reminded by Dr. Calvin that S.H.I.E.L.D. has warned them that Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis disobeys orders by bringing a woman (later retconned to be his wife, but consistently referred to here as "Miss Brandt"), Ellen Brandt, originally from Wisconsin,[19] to his shack, sleeping with her and telling her about the project as he destroys his notes, believing that the formula now exists only in his head. Motorboating to the laboratory, where his colleague, Harrison, is to pick up the sample, Brandt accompanies him, but they find Harrison collapsed on the floor, and Brandt has prepared an ambush. Fleeing to his car with the only sample of the serum, he injects himself with it, believing that he will become a Super-Soldier (someone of peak human, although not superhuman, abilities) and survive the crash and submersion, drives through a fence and into the swamp. The serum instantly reacts violently with the fen, and, as later explained, magical forces extant in the area, transforming him into...
- Though warned that the technological terrorist group Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis breaches security by bringing with him his lover, Ellen Brandt (later retconned to be his wife, but referred to here as "Miss Brandt"). He destroys his notes to his formula, which he has memorized. Later, at his nearby laboratory, Sallis is ambushed and learns Brandt sold him out. Fleeing with the only sample of his serum, he injects himself with it in hopes of attaining peak-human physicality and saving himself. However, he crashes his car into the swamp where chemical and, as later explained, magical forces instantly transform him into...
This article has been hijacked by a single fanatic fan, and as a result, the Fictional character biography is no more than a fan-page essay with analysis and observations that would in no way be of interest to the general reader or to anyone but a fan. I am tagging this, and I urge other editors to trim this and make it read like an encyclopedia entry.
To the one editor making obsessive edits day after day, please try and pull back and be more objective. The average reader doesn't care about a lot of this incredibly dense detail. With all due respect, you are turning this into your fan page, and that is just not right. Please think of the average reader. -- 69.22.254.108 ( talk) 19:45, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Naw, it's cool — you've added much major, important information, corrected inaccuracies, and fleshed it all out. We just need to pull back on some of the overdetail and shape it with perspective. But I have great admiration for what you've done. Now it's just a matter of editing and trimming, as happens regularly with professional writers. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 05:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Does this really need Spider-Man and Dark Avengers templates? He's not listed on either one, and is not a major supporting character to either. -- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 17:27, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
As noted by the deletion of Fictional history of Green Goblin and other recent decisions, WikiProject Comics follows Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction), which does not allow "fictography" and under which fictional-character articles must be written with a real world perspective. This article's FCB, like those of the deleted articles, grossly violates these guidelines and WikiProject Comics consensus. This article requires a group effort to radically trim, to add third-party WP:RS sourcing, and to be brought to encyclopedic standards. I myself and working on another big project, but will return to this article shortly and hope that other editors will help. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 08:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Removal of this
None of this appear to fail verifiability, looks to be original research through an original synthesis of information. The burden of proof is on others here. Systems Theorist ( talk) 20:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Would adding a citation be sufficient to address concerns? Lortho21 ( talk) 20:08, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Should not be included. All WP:OR and WP:SYNTH and source provided by Lortho21 is unreliable. Even so, it would seem the source is stating their opinions on conclusions they drew from the film, not actuality. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 21:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I just want to give the regular page watchers here a heads up, that Man-Thing gets a mention in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode 20 (see a preview of it on their Facebook page, around the 30 second mark). Please be aware that people will try to add this to the page and (at least from this preview) it should not be. This has been part of a recurring discussion in the larger comics project, and as it stands (I think), consensus is that mere mentions, opposed to actual appearances, should not be added to the "In other media" sections of pages, or if there is significant third party coverage. Please respond below if you have questions. I'm adding the page to my watchlist for a bit. - Favre1fan93 ( talk) 03:19, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
He was mentioned by name in the last Agents of SHIELD, and his wife (and she IS his wife - same name, same affiliation, same scar, same plant-based research) appeared in Iron Man 3. Short of having him actually slog his way onto the screen, this is about as firmly as a non-appearing character can be established.
Should be added to the film and TV sections. 50.102.133.18 ( talk) 06:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The main image is really not appropriate. Volume 4 is a direct tie-in to the 2005 movie and not "canon," and the character's appearance is based on the movie version, substantially different from how normally depicted. In the context of a Wikipedia article, it's misleading-- Scottandrewhutchins ( talk) 02:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)