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Please verify the source to be sure this English translation is not a copyright violation before moving to Wikisource-- Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 16:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, this should be copied and moved, but this article would need to be cleaned up on here afterwards to actually give insight on her life. -- queso man 02:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus and again, it may be best to build consensus for a WP:SANSKRIT and then apply it accordingly. -- BDD ( talk) 15:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Māllīnātha" - 207 hits and "Mallinatha" - 17,300 hits. So Mallinatha is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. Relisted. BDD ( talk) 16:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC) neo ( talk) 18:49, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Mokṣa" - 4,15,000 hits. "Moksha" - 37,00,000 hits. So Moksha (Jainism) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Śvētāmbara" - 9,500 hits and "Svetambara" - 48,500 hits. So Svetambara is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Saṃsāra" - 1,14,000 hits and "Samsara" 79,30,000 hits So Samsara (Jainism) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:22, 30 June 2013
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Ādi purāṇa" - 1,540 hits. Adipurana - 25,700. Adi Purana - 392,000. So Adi Purana is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:51, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Kalpa Sūtra" - 14,900 hits. Kalpa Sutra - 346,000. "Sūtra" - 493,000. "Sutra" - 50,800,000. So Kalpa Sutra is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Cīvaka Cintāmaṇi" - 1,340 hits and "Civaka Cintamani" - 10,300 hits So Civaka Cintamani is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:08, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, Vyākhyāprajñapti - 2,890 hits and Vyakhya prajnapti - 10,600 hits. So Vyakhya prajnapti is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 16:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This article was created on 11 November 2004 as Mahavira (mathematician). On 28 December 2010, admin Ruud Koot moved page to current name without any discussion or consensus. As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Mahavira" mathematician - 501,000 hits and for "Mahāvīra" mathematician - 44,000 hits. So Mahavira (mathematician) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 16:26, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This page awas created on 19 August 2005. I am seeing that many pages are created with different spelling and are redirected to this page. [1] [2] [3] This page itself is moved 3 times. Please see this log. On 22 March 2013 User:The Rahul Jain moved this article to current name without any discussion. As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." Following are google search results to establish primary transliteration. "Parshva" Jainism - 74,100. "Parshwa" Jainism - 68,000. "Parsva" Jainism - 65,500. "Parswa" Jainism - 8,190. "Parshvanath" Jainism - 1,34,000. "Parshvanatha" Jainism - 12,100. "Parshwanath" Jainism - 3,55,000. "Parshwanath" Jainism - 8,220. And finally for the current name, "Pārśva" Jainism - 6,690. It looks "Parshwanath" or "Parshwanatha" is most common spelling in wider usage. Hence the move is requested to Parshwanatha. But please note, current IAST name is far wide off the mark. Also it is necessary to decide article name to settle the issue for once and all. neo ( talk) 15:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
All articles I have listed here are moved by user:The Rahul Jain without any discussion or move request. It is better to stick to policy. If not, I gave example of
Rama few times that some user will replace sources in that article which write 'Rama' as 'Rāma' and will move article to IAST name. Today he went on creating article
Rāma (Jainism) with IAST spelling just to show me that he will keep moving articles in future to IAST names. Google search results - "Rāma" Jainism - 1,67,000, "Rama" Jainism - 35,10,000. But he will argue that his 'reliable sources' write Rama that way. It is better to stick to policy to avoid such disruption of wikipedia. And I request user:The Rahul Jain to move article to correct name
Rama (Jainism) and stop disrupting wikipedia.
neo (
talk)
15:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
(As an aside, note that we've been calling it IAST by mistake, but we really mean "IAST or ISO 15919". In the case of Cīvaka Cintāmaṇi for instance, it's a work written in not Sanskrit but Tamil. Thus, on the internet, all the spellings Civaka Cintamani, Jivaka Chintamani, Seevaga Chintamani, Seevaga Sinthamani and many other variants are found. In fact, if we're not going to use ISO 15919/IAST, then I strongly suggest that the second word should not be spelled "Cintamani": the first vowel is a 'ch' sound represented in IAST/ISO 15919 by 'c', but more commonly represented in natural English spelling as "ch") Shreevatsa ( talk) 11:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
Please verify the source to be sure this English translation is not a copyright violation before moving to Wikisource-- Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 16:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Well, this should be copied and moved, but this article would need to be cleaned up on here afterwards to actually give insight on her life. -- queso man 02:40, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus and again, it may be best to build consensus for a WP:SANSKRIT and then apply it accordingly. -- BDD ( talk) 15:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Māllīnātha" - 207 hits and "Mallinatha" - 17,300 hits. So Mallinatha is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. Relisted. BDD ( talk) 16:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC) neo ( talk) 18:49, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Mokṣa" - 4,15,000 hits. "Moksha" - 37,00,000 hits. So Moksha (Jainism) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Śvētāmbara" - 9,500 hits and "Svetambara" - 48,500 hits. So Svetambara is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:29, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Saṃsāra" - 1,14,000 hits and "Samsara" 79,30,000 hits So Samsara (Jainism) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 18:22, 30 June 2013
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Ādi purāṇa" - 1,540 hits. Adipurana - 25,700. Adi Purana - 392,000. So Adi Purana is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:51, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Kalpa Sūtra" - 14,900 hits. Kalpa Sutra - 346,000. "Sūtra" - 493,000. "Sutra" - 50,800,000. So Kalpa Sutra is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Cīvaka Cintāmaṇi" - 1,340 hits and "Civaka Cintamani" - 10,300 hits So Civaka Cintamani is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 17:08, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, Vyākhyāprajñapti - 2,890 hits and Vyakhya prajnapti - 10,600 hits. So Vyakhya prajnapti is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 16:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This article was created on 11 November 2004 as Mahavira (mathematician). On 28 December 2010, admin Ruud Koot moved page to current name without any discussion or consensus. As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." As per Google search results, "Mahavira" mathematician - 501,000 hits and for "Mahāvīra" mathematician - 44,000 hits. So Mahavira (mathematician) is primary transliteration. Hence the move is requested. neo ( talk) 16:26, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
This page awas created on 19 August 2005. I am seeing that many pages are created with different spelling and are redirected to this page. [1] [2] [3] This page itself is moved 3 times. Please see this log. On 22 March 2013 User:The Rahul Jain moved this article to current name without any discussion. As per this policy, "Each Indic article should be named according to its primary transliteration, if this can be clearly established. A word has a primary transliteration if at least 75% of all references in wider English usage have the same transliteration." Following are google search results to establish primary transliteration. "Parshva" Jainism - 74,100. "Parshwa" Jainism - 68,000. "Parsva" Jainism - 65,500. "Parswa" Jainism - 8,190. "Parshvanath" Jainism - 1,34,000. "Parshvanatha" Jainism - 12,100. "Parshwanath" Jainism - 3,55,000. "Parshwanath" Jainism - 8,220. And finally for the current name, "Pārśva" Jainism - 6,690. It looks "Parshwanath" or "Parshwanatha" is most common spelling in wider usage. Hence the move is requested to Parshwanatha. But please note, current IAST name is far wide off the mark. Also it is necessary to decide article name to settle the issue for once and all. neo ( talk) 15:38, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
All articles I have listed here are moved by user:The Rahul Jain without any discussion or move request. It is better to stick to policy. If not, I gave example of
Rama few times that some user will replace sources in that article which write 'Rama' as 'Rāma' and will move article to IAST name. Today he went on creating article
Rāma (Jainism) with IAST spelling just to show me that he will keep moving articles in future to IAST names. Google search results - "Rāma" Jainism - 1,67,000, "Rama" Jainism - 35,10,000. But he will argue that his 'reliable sources' write Rama that way. It is better to stick to policy to avoid such disruption of wikipedia. And I request user:The Rahul Jain to move article to correct name
Rama (Jainism) and stop disrupting wikipedia.
neo (
talk)
15:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
(As an aside, note that we've been calling it IAST by mistake, but we really mean "IAST or ISO 15919". In the case of Cīvaka Cintāmaṇi for instance, it's a work written in not Sanskrit but Tamil. Thus, on the internet, all the spellings Civaka Cintamani, Jivaka Chintamani, Seevaga Chintamani, Seevaga Sinthamani and many other variants are found. In fact, if we're not going to use ISO 15919/IAST, then I strongly suggest that the second word should not be spelled "Cintamani": the first vowel is a 'ch' sound represented in IAST/ISO 15919 by 'c', but more commonly represented in natural English spelling as "ch") Shreevatsa ( talk) 11:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)