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Aren't there several more states where non-Hispanic whites under a certain age are a minority within that age group, while the state still has a white majority overall. I would bet that the number of states where white infants are a minority among the state's newborn population may be as high as 15. These states could be assigned a number, a sort of "minority age threshold" where white people below that age are a minority and white people over that age are the majority. That data would be proof that the state absolutely will become a majority-minority state in a matter of time, barring some radical technological advance which would prolong the lifespans of the white babyboomer generation indefinitely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.117.245.238 ( talk) 00:50, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
Is that meant seriously? -- 212.51.246.226 08:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've moved two sections here for discussion, as they largely report information irrelevant to majority-minority status, and are vague and badly written. -- JWB 02:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
U.S. Census projections suggest that states will continue to shift into this category in the coming decades. As of 2004, those next in line for minority majority status according to the U.S. Census Bureau (35% or more minority populations) were:
By contrast, more rural states such as North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are not projected to experience such a change for centuries, if ever. Of course, if the majority of the U.S. population becomes Hispanic (for example), then it is those more rural states which will become majority-minority states, as their white majority will be at odds with that of the rest of the country.
Demographic shifts may be influenced by factors other than normal patterns of population growth (births, deaths, urbanization, etc.) Following the U.S. Civil War, some former Confederate states such as Georgia and South Carolina had majority-black populations, but decades of racial discrimination, along with greater economic opportunities in the industrial north, drove large numbers of black people to northern states in the Great Migration.
External factors may influence the status of majority-minority states. For example, the success of the Christian Exodus movement, which supports the migration of conservative Christians (who are predominantly white) to South Carolina, would likely reverse the trend of the growing black proportion of the overall population of that state. Hurricane Katrina, which scattered the mostly-black population of New Orleans to neighboring states, may also have had an effect this trend in several states.
Also, other factors such as stricter enforcement of immigration laws would likely slow the move toward majority-minorities, as this would slow the flow of minority illegal immigrants, especially along the border states such as Texas and California. This would have a great effect in the border states, where Hispanics from South and Central America (particularly from Mexico) are the predominant minority group, although it would have only a minor impact on states where the predominant minority groups are legal immigrants or are American-born.
Florida, for example, has a large Cuban American population, encouraged by the federal government's Wet Feet/Dry Feet Policy, which allows Cuban refugees who make it to dry land to remain in the United States. New York and New Jersey have a significant population of Puerto Ricans, who are United States citizens and do not face any restrictions on travel to the mainland. Alaska and Hawaii each have large indigenous populations, deemed to have become citizens when those states entered the union.
And what?-- Greasysteve13 23:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused. I was quite sure the term "majority-minority state" did *not* mean that the majority group in the state did not match the majority group in the nation. I was sure it meant "there is no group representing more than 50% (a majority) in this state" = "all groups are minorities in this state". The crucial difference is, for example, if California were to become 60% Hispanic, it would no longer be considered "majority-minority state" the way I defined it (since there would be a majority group in the state), but it would still be a "majority-minority state" they way it's defined here (since Hispanics are not a majority group in the rest of the country). Am I off here? I at least feel that's how we use the term in (my part of?) California, but I could be wrong about how the rest of the nation uses it. -- SameerKhan 00:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I see both "majority minority" and "minority majority" used in the article. Which term is correct? Or are they both acceptable? 217.12.14.240 17:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Andreas.
As an historian, I would say that minority-majority is correct. This indicates that mininorities (taken as a whole) make up a majority of the population. In other words, the majority group (whites in our country) does not make up a majority of the population of these states, minorities are the majority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oh2bkokopelli ( talk • contribs) 02:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
It is important to note that Hispanics do not constitute a race but rather an ethnicity. Individuals who market white and Hispanic were therefore not counted as being multi-racial but rather only as White. Why is such blatantly obvious 'information' even necessary? How could there ever be confusion about this? So should someone need to explain that germans, french, italians, polish, irish, swedish, czech etcetc are also white??? -- 83.131.143.101 18:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't buy this. What about New Mexico? It was a settled by the Spanish, along with some Mexican Native-American allies over 300 years ago. They settled a land populated by over 19 pueblo tribes/cultures, severa groups of nomadic Native Ameican tribes -- Navajo, Apache, Comanche, Ute.
These people settled the state long before non-Hispanic whites arrived. So how does Hawaii get the distinction of being the only state always to have been minority-majority. I do not buy this. I think that you're wrong. Can you tell me when New Mexico wasn't a minority-majority territory (1848-1912) or state (1912-present)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oh2bkokopelli ( talk • contribs) 02:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[1] has incomplete data. Apparently non-Hispanic Whites have been close to 50% since sometime in the 19th century. New Mexico may not have been a "majority minority" state for most of its history in the US, though it is also a poor fit for the alarmist idea of nonwhite immigrants overwhelming whites. Hispanic New Mexicans were present from the start, were considered white by the US, and considered themselves whites of Spanish ancestry, not Mexican. They were only placed in a non-majority Census category when the "Hispanic/Latino" "ethnicity" was added to the Census relatively recently. They have also made up a fairly stable proportion of the population. -- JWB ( talk) 03:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Another note, having read up more on the history of New Mexico, Compromise of 1850, etc.: Proposals for New Mexico statehood were seriously considered in 1850 and 1860. The political football on both occasions was not whether the state was dominated by non-Hispanic Whites, but whether it would be dominated by Southerners or not. -- JWB ( talk) 01:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
In the 1920's and '30's, over 10,000
Puerto Ricans (
Latinos) from
Puerto Rico arrived to replace the numerical decline of imported Asian laborers and
Mexicans joined the contract labor force, thus one-tenth (9%) of the state's population are Hispanic/Latino of any race. The racial situation of
African Americans in Hawaii is relatively good than what's observed in the Southeastern or other parts of the U.S., about 5% of Hawaii's people are black who came from the mainland throughout the 20th century. Non-Hispanic white "Haole" or Caucasian Hawaiians are 15% of the population depending on any available data, the majority are mixed-race with Asian and native Hawaiian blood themselves, although a large wave of European
Portuguese settlers arrived to influence the state's blended diverse culture. +
71.102.53.48 (
talk) 03:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The sum for California is way below 100% since this edit. -- 89.55.25.72 ( talk) 04:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
This section is not accurate at all, at least from my perspective. Can anyone provide a few examples "majority-minority" refering to religion? If not, it should be removed. Kold9 ( talk) 05:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I was brought here by a link on the page about Leicester, a UK city which is almost minority-majority. Maybe we should have an article about that generally, rather than just in the US. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 17:25, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I laughed out loud about the reference to French surburban housing projects with "majority-minority" populations. Surely a suburb here or there is completely immaterial to the article at large. My building here in Taiwan is also full of foreigners...should we include that too as an exxample?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.35.10.152 ( talk) 08:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
... is the title "Minority-majority state" but the first line is "Majority minority"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.69.38 ( talk) 02:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
This article discusses majority minority US cities as well as majority minority areas in other countries, and is not strictly about m-m states. Of 39 non-redirect incoming namespace links, 17 are redirected from variations of "majority minority" (with various capitalization and hyphenation). 22 incoming links are for "Minority-majority state" (or variant redirects). However, at least 3 of these ( History of Los Angeles, Illinois's 1st congressional district election, 2000, California's 15th congressional district) are using pipes to redirect from a phrase that doesn't include the word state, and Pardo covers m-m areas in Brazil. The majority of incoming links are looking for an article not strictly about m-m US STATES.
"Minority majority" (511k) and "Majority minority" (509k) have a similar number of Google results. Google ignores the presence of a hyphen in the phrase, but the first few pages of results show mixed usage of hyphens in either phrase. The Wall Street Journal uses both phrases. This page on Wikipedia is a high result for "minority majority" and may have influenced recent usage. Two editors on this talk page have previously suggested that "majority minority" is preferable. My understanding of Wikipedia article title policy suggests that omitting the hyphen is preferable.
I'm going to attempt to move this page to Majority minority myself or list it with WP:RM if I can't move it. I also want to move Majority-minority district to List of majority minority United States congressional districts; while that title is long it is more precise, and I doubt that article while ever be more than a List. Plantdrew ( talk) 05:26, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
We already have a word for this in English. It's called plurality.
98.21.173.85 ( talk) 04:16, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
No, it's not quite the same thing. An area in the US which was 60% black/40% white would be considered majority minority as would an area which was 30% black, 30% hispanic, 40% white. The former has a black majority, and the latter has a white plurality. Plantdrew ( talk) 19:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The map should be changed to reflect that Louisiana is now under 60% non-Hispanic white according to 2012 estimates.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/22000.html
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Given that Nevada is now 49.9% non-Hispanic White American as of 2016, the map in the article should be updated. Nevada is now "majority minority", so the state should be colored red instead of pink. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 14:55, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
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I don't think it is sufficiently addressed that "majority" might mean different things in a particular country at different times and in different contexts. For example, at times Catholics were seen as a threat to the majority American culture, and that their church could one day become the largest in the United States was seen as a nightmare future.-- Pharos ( talk) 22:04, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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According to the recent 2020 US Census results, Maryland is now only 49.8% non Hispanic White. The map in the article should be updated to reflect the latest census results, so the state should be colored red instead of pink. 50.198.133.197 ( talk) 20:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Why is there an edit war over U.S. numbers? 174.67.225.37 ( talk) 04:33, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think all these numbers are from 2020. 174.67.225.37 ( talk) 12:05, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Aren't there several more states where non-Hispanic whites under a certain age are a minority within that age group, while the state still has a white majority overall. I would bet that the number of states where white infants are a minority among the state's newborn population may be as high as 15. These states could be assigned a number, a sort of "minority age threshold" where white people below that age are a minority and white people over that age are the majority. That data would be proof that the state absolutely will become a majority-minority state in a matter of time, barring some radical technological advance which would prolong the lifespans of the white babyboomer generation indefinitely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.117.245.238 ( talk) 00:50, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
Is that meant seriously? -- 212.51.246.226 08:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I've moved two sections here for discussion, as they largely report information irrelevant to majority-minority status, and are vague and badly written. -- JWB 02:17, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
U.S. Census projections suggest that states will continue to shift into this category in the coming decades. As of 2004, those next in line for minority majority status according to the U.S. Census Bureau (35% or more minority populations) were:
By contrast, more rural states such as North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine are not projected to experience such a change for centuries, if ever. Of course, if the majority of the U.S. population becomes Hispanic (for example), then it is those more rural states which will become majority-minority states, as their white majority will be at odds with that of the rest of the country.
Demographic shifts may be influenced by factors other than normal patterns of population growth (births, deaths, urbanization, etc.) Following the U.S. Civil War, some former Confederate states such as Georgia and South Carolina had majority-black populations, but decades of racial discrimination, along with greater economic opportunities in the industrial north, drove large numbers of black people to northern states in the Great Migration.
External factors may influence the status of majority-minority states. For example, the success of the Christian Exodus movement, which supports the migration of conservative Christians (who are predominantly white) to South Carolina, would likely reverse the trend of the growing black proportion of the overall population of that state. Hurricane Katrina, which scattered the mostly-black population of New Orleans to neighboring states, may also have had an effect this trend in several states.
Also, other factors such as stricter enforcement of immigration laws would likely slow the move toward majority-minorities, as this would slow the flow of minority illegal immigrants, especially along the border states such as Texas and California. This would have a great effect in the border states, where Hispanics from South and Central America (particularly from Mexico) are the predominant minority group, although it would have only a minor impact on states where the predominant minority groups are legal immigrants or are American-born.
Florida, for example, has a large Cuban American population, encouraged by the federal government's Wet Feet/Dry Feet Policy, which allows Cuban refugees who make it to dry land to remain in the United States. New York and New Jersey have a significant population of Puerto Ricans, who are United States citizens and do not face any restrictions on travel to the mainland. Alaska and Hawaii each have large indigenous populations, deemed to have become citizens when those states entered the union.
And what?-- Greasysteve13 23:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm confused. I was quite sure the term "majority-minority state" did *not* mean that the majority group in the state did not match the majority group in the nation. I was sure it meant "there is no group representing more than 50% (a majority) in this state" = "all groups are minorities in this state". The crucial difference is, for example, if California were to become 60% Hispanic, it would no longer be considered "majority-minority state" the way I defined it (since there would be a majority group in the state), but it would still be a "majority-minority state" they way it's defined here (since Hispanics are not a majority group in the rest of the country). Am I off here? I at least feel that's how we use the term in (my part of?) California, but I could be wrong about how the rest of the nation uses it. -- SameerKhan 00:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I see both "majority minority" and "minority majority" used in the article. Which term is correct? Or are they both acceptable? 217.12.14.240 17:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Andreas.
As an historian, I would say that minority-majority is correct. This indicates that mininorities (taken as a whole) make up a majority of the population. In other words, the majority group (whites in our country) does not make up a majority of the population of these states, minorities are the majority. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oh2bkokopelli ( talk • contribs) 02:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
It is important to note that Hispanics do not constitute a race but rather an ethnicity. Individuals who market white and Hispanic were therefore not counted as being multi-racial but rather only as White. Why is such blatantly obvious 'information' even necessary? How could there ever be confusion about this? So should someone need to explain that germans, french, italians, polish, irish, swedish, czech etcetc are also white??? -- 83.131.143.101 18:19, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't buy this. What about New Mexico? It was a settled by the Spanish, along with some Mexican Native-American allies over 300 years ago. They settled a land populated by over 19 pueblo tribes/cultures, severa groups of nomadic Native Ameican tribes -- Navajo, Apache, Comanche, Ute.
These people settled the state long before non-Hispanic whites arrived. So how does Hawaii get the distinction of being the only state always to have been minority-majority. I do not buy this. I think that you're wrong. Can you tell me when New Mexico wasn't a minority-majority territory (1848-1912) or state (1912-present)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oh2bkokopelli ( talk • contribs) 02:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
[1] has incomplete data. Apparently non-Hispanic Whites have been close to 50% since sometime in the 19th century. New Mexico may not have been a "majority minority" state for most of its history in the US, though it is also a poor fit for the alarmist idea of nonwhite immigrants overwhelming whites. Hispanic New Mexicans were present from the start, were considered white by the US, and considered themselves whites of Spanish ancestry, not Mexican. They were only placed in a non-majority Census category when the "Hispanic/Latino" "ethnicity" was added to the Census relatively recently. They have also made up a fairly stable proportion of the population. -- JWB ( talk) 03:52, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Another note, having read up more on the history of New Mexico, Compromise of 1850, etc.: Proposals for New Mexico statehood were seriously considered in 1850 and 1860. The political football on both occasions was not whether the state was dominated by non-Hispanic Whites, but whether it would be dominated by Southerners or not. -- JWB ( talk) 01:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
In the 1920's and '30's, over 10,000
Puerto Ricans (
Latinos) from
Puerto Rico arrived to replace the numerical decline of imported Asian laborers and
Mexicans joined the contract labor force, thus one-tenth (9%) of the state's population are Hispanic/Latino of any race. The racial situation of
African Americans in Hawaii is relatively good than what's observed in the Southeastern or other parts of the U.S., about 5% of Hawaii's people are black who came from the mainland throughout the 20th century. Non-Hispanic white "Haole" or Caucasian Hawaiians are 15% of the population depending on any available data, the majority are mixed-race with Asian and native Hawaiian blood themselves, although a large wave of European
Portuguese settlers arrived to influence the state's blended diverse culture. +
71.102.53.48 (
talk) 03:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
The sum for California is way below 100% since this edit. -- 89.55.25.72 ( talk) 04:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
This section is not accurate at all, at least from my perspective. Can anyone provide a few examples "majority-minority" refering to religion? If not, it should be removed. Kold9 ( talk) 05:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I was brought here by a link on the page about Leicester, a UK city which is almost minority-majority. Maybe we should have an article about that generally, rather than just in the US. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 17:25, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
I laughed out loud about the reference to French surburban housing projects with "majority-minority" populations. Surely a suburb here or there is completely immaterial to the article at large. My building here in Taiwan is also full of foreigners...should we include that too as an exxample?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.35.10.152 ( talk) 08:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
... is the title "Minority-majority state" but the first line is "Majority minority"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.43.69.38 ( talk) 02:52, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
This article discusses majority minority US cities as well as majority minority areas in other countries, and is not strictly about m-m states. Of 39 non-redirect incoming namespace links, 17 are redirected from variations of "majority minority" (with various capitalization and hyphenation). 22 incoming links are for "Minority-majority state" (or variant redirects). However, at least 3 of these ( History of Los Angeles, Illinois's 1st congressional district election, 2000, California's 15th congressional district) are using pipes to redirect from a phrase that doesn't include the word state, and Pardo covers m-m areas in Brazil. The majority of incoming links are looking for an article not strictly about m-m US STATES.
"Minority majority" (511k) and "Majority minority" (509k) have a similar number of Google results. Google ignores the presence of a hyphen in the phrase, but the first few pages of results show mixed usage of hyphens in either phrase. The Wall Street Journal uses both phrases. This page on Wikipedia is a high result for "minority majority" and may have influenced recent usage. Two editors on this talk page have previously suggested that "majority minority" is preferable. My understanding of Wikipedia article title policy suggests that omitting the hyphen is preferable.
I'm going to attempt to move this page to Majority minority myself or list it with WP:RM if I can't move it. I also want to move Majority-minority district to List of majority minority United States congressional districts; while that title is long it is more precise, and I doubt that article while ever be more than a List. Plantdrew ( talk) 05:26, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
We already have a word for this in English. It's called plurality.
98.21.173.85 ( talk) 04:16, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
No, it's not quite the same thing. An area in the US which was 60% black/40% white would be considered majority minority as would an area which was 30% black, 30% hispanic, 40% white. The former has a black majority, and the latter has a white plurality. Plantdrew ( talk) 19:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
The map should be changed to reflect that Louisiana is now under 60% non-Hispanic white according to 2012 estimates.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/22000.html
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Given that Nevada is now 49.9% non-Hispanic White American as of 2016, the map in the article should be updated. Nevada is now "majority minority", so the state should be colored red instead of pink. Bohemian Baltimore ( talk) 14:55, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
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I don't think it is sufficiently addressed that "majority" might mean different things in a particular country at different times and in different contexts. For example, at times Catholics were seen as a threat to the majority American culture, and that their church could one day become the largest in the United States was seen as a nightmare future.-- Pharos ( talk) 22:04, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
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According to the recent 2020 US Census results, Maryland is now only 49.8% non Hispanic White. The map in the article should be updated to reflect the latest census results, so the state should be colored red instead of pink. 50.198.133.197 ( talk) 20:02, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Why is there an edit war over U.S. numbers? 174.67.225.37 ( talk) 04:33, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think all these numbers are from 2020. 174.67.225.37 ( talk) 12:05, 18 February 2022 (UTC)