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Where did the discussion just vanish to?
There will always be the 'occasional article' which causes 'wailing and gnashing of teeth' on the grounds that it will upset the hypersensitive offspring of Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells and/or workplace/library 'inappropriate viewing filters' (which can be somewhat idiosyncratic). There are also a number of articles which are 'for various reasons' kept off the front page, however good they are as articles.
Collectively these will include certain topics mainly in a few categories (including, but not limited to adult, war, and medical). Unless there is fork of WP which leads on such topics, there is a case for providing a 'summary that is unlikely to cause offence' (leaving the terms that cause comment on the actual article) - equivalent to the links on April Fools day articles. Jackiespeel ( talk) 13:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Carrying on from the fact/fiction WP suggestion above - 'unsigned in' have a fairly vanilla FA and selection of entries in DYN and On This Day: but on signing in can have the WP equivalent of computer wallpaper - sports, games, history, technology... according to selection.
As far as I can see in 'any given 4-6 months' there will be at least one in each of the categories (a) 'Not being suitable for DoTW's children/workplace computers', (b) 'Why are we having a run of (insert theme here) articles' and (c) 'This is too trivial a subject to appear on the MP/be submitted for FA status.' (Any further suggestions?) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I meant 'during every period of 4-6 months' there will be a certain number of FA articles etc which cause discussion on their appropriateness - and I know creating the non-vanilla versions would involve much work.
What would the the WP version of 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' be? (The equivalent of the woman who told Samuel Johnson that she was pleased there were no 'rude words' in his dictionary to which he made a acerbic remark about her having been looking for them.) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
We really need to stop putting photos next to irrelevant captions.... How many times has this come up now? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 09:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
We really need to stop putting photos next to irrelevant captions.... How many times has this come up now? Oh, I would say this issue has come up occasionally for the past four or five years. There is even a whole section of Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page devoted to it here. Again, its a combination of two issues: first, not always having a suitable picture for the top event. And second, because the Main Page templates are also transcluded on other pages, many people do not want to lower the image closer to relevant event ( like on the French Wikipedia) since it may interfere with the formatting on those other pages. Of course, there have been proposals to bold "(pictured)", highlight the relevant event, and others, but so far there has been no consensus for an alternative. Cheers. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 15:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Please change "batttery" to "battery." Featured Article as it appears on the Main Page. -- 136.183.240.185 ( talk) 00:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
[3]Why isn’t it in the news? Sorry if I’m asking a redundant question. -- Sooo Kawaii!!! ^__^ ( talk) 22:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
It's heartwarming to see Norway back in the DYK column — especially now in the afterglow of that country's No. 1 ranking in the United Nations Development Program's index of desirable countries in which to live (Oct. 4).
Sca (
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17:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
At the top of the main page, there should be a content box saying "Create New Page". That would be really convenient and helpful, to me anyway. Talk to me here, Qwertyfish11 ( talk) 14:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the news section listed that the Church of Scientology was convicted of fraud. Now the headline is gone. What happened? Conspiracy? 161.221.87.4 ( talk) 23:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
No mysterious conspiracy at all; it was added without the usual discussion, and it's the sort of thing that shouldn't be added without the usual discussion, so it's been removed ( see here). It looks like it has already been proposed to add it again, though, so it might reappear. — Gavia immer ( talk) 00:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
What on earth is the release of Windows 7 doing on the front In the News? Since when was the release of commercial products placed In the News? I didn't see OS X Snow Leopard there when that was released, nor when Cola Lime was released. 92.8.141.202 ( talk) 12:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm waiting for the U.S. bias argument on this one. – Howard the Duck 17:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps you should have contributed to WP:ITN/C where it was discussed and consensus was broadly for it being posted? I'm fairly indifferent about it, myself, because the reaction has much more subdued than I remember the release of Windows '95 being. On the other hand, it's much more notable than other OSes, whether Snow Leopard, Ubuntu, Haiku, or MorphOS, simply due to its marketshare, so I find the "equal treatment" argument rather fallacious. - 93.97.122.93 ( talk) 19:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
If we don't include major deaths because someone was old and likely to die soon anyway, why would we include the release of a major consumer product that most everyone knew was coming anyway? IIIVIX ( Talk) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
We seem to be losing sight of the fact. So far as I'm aware, and please correct me if I'm wrong, no other commercial release of a product has ever been displayed on the front ITN, including the Vista release; why is this a valid exception? 92.11.57.193 ( talk) 11:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Please vote to keep or remove Windows 7 from ITN
here --
Fixman
Praise me
15:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
O HAI! IZ IN UR WIKIPEDIAS. howcheng { chat} 05:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The news item says they were kidnapped in Colombia; but they were from Colombia. They were actually kidnapped just across the border in Venezuela. Elphion ( talk) 06:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
You cannot "participate in a scandal." You can be involved in a scandal or participate in a crime. Please correct. Haiduc ( talk) 19:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Today's Tsar bomba entry says, "With a yield of around 50 megatons, it was the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated to date." I believe it remains the largest ever detonated, so the text should say is, and to date is redundant. Also, can't we just call it a bomb? This is English Wikipedia. Sca ( talk) 14:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Besides eg many newspapers are referred to by their foreign language names - Der Speigel and Pravda to give two examples - rather than the translation. Jackiespeel ( talk) 17:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Possibly if the Tsar Bomba were more widely known in English speaking areas it would be naturalised - like Titulus Regius. 22:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, would someone familiar with the effects of having Featured Articles on the Main Page be able to comment here: WP:VPR#Main page Article Editing - reboot? Thanks. Rd232 talk 21:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Ho hum. We just had a featured picture of flies fucking on the front page a little over two weeks ago ( here). How about a little variety? Maybe a cricket getting a handjob or something? 71.162.30.47 ( talk) 01:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Wow, there's a whole category for fly sex! Amazing! — RockMFR 01:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC) ps:inteligenza m inteligenza —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.74.180 ( talk) 01:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I believe User:Howcheng who schedules WP:TFP does so largely in order of promotion. SOme images are delayed or put ahead when there's a relevant date and if two flies came up in a row, Howcheng would probably delay one for balance but may not consider so far ahead. Nil Einne ( talk) 13:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
When is the 'non-work/library etc safe' alternative front page/linkages fork being set up (whether or not concentrating on such things - to include political non-mainstream, medical, military, 'yuck-factor' non-pc and similar items)? 15:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the division I was making is fairly clear - work/library/similar safe and 'things which are likely to annoy Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells and sprogs thereof/the more generally annoying corners of the political spectrum, some war-related, medical/veterinary topics which are incompatible with biscuit crumbs and drinks of choice...' (Some blocking set ups can be idiosycratic - ecclesiastical history blocked as occult ( Richard Dawkins not involved) and the 1851 census blocked as matchmaking (presumable aimed at the zombie/ vampire market). And consider the triffid/ Ent-centri wiki(s) discussions on main page images of flowers. My comment is a semi-humorous suggestion of how to resolve the matter. (And, as I have previously suggested a 'Random Article with an improvement tag attached' link, for this fork there could be a 'random non-work/library/etc safe page' link - adult, exotic medical, exotic insect... etc etc.) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
There is also the Product Placement Wiki front page fork.
How could WP be turned into a computer game? (Gain points by improving articles! Have a High Noon encounter with a WPVandal!...) Jackiespeel ( talk) 18:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
How should text be turned into images (apart from using some of the fancy effects in Word - ants, flashing lights etc) - or are we going retro to early text-based games? Jackiespeel ( talk) 16:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Before this topic and its diversions disappear off the event horizon of interest - for starters a Wikipedia version of Mornington Crescent (game).
The triffid/Ent wikis are at present hypothetical. Jackiespeel ( talk) 19:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Nowt to do with me (g). What next - mushrooms, fish, peacock in full display.... Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Stopcock, cockpit, and to go with the WP Mornington Crescent game suggestion above, Cockfosters tube Station. Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
And, for the game, points are gained for resolving 'Wikiwhacks' (orphaned articles), with a multiplier for a Wikipeida six degrees of separation linkage for 'entries not being part of a group.'
Anyone wishing to develop this game further 'in a suitable place' can (g). Jackiespeel ( talk) 23:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Since Windows 7 was able to make an ITN insertion, couldn't Ubuntu do the same as it's not a commercial product and has a rapidly increasing market share? (forgive my newbiness in not knowing how to sign my name to edits. I'm user Malignus) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malignus ( talk • contribs) 14:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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I get the theme today. Very well done. Except that while the FA is Halloween-themed, and the FP is Halloween-themed, and the DYK is Halloween-themed, On This Day has three light-hearted Halloween-themed entries surrounded by Martin Luther and a tragedy involving the deaths of over two hundred people. Not to mention that one of those light-hearted entries is about the "vanishing into the sky" of some convicted terrorists. It sticks out a bit. -- 86.170.64.57 ( talk) 01:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Considering the style of On This Day has changed since I first wrote, I feel my point is now redundant. HonouraryMix ( talk) 01:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Where has the image for TFA gone? Majorly talk 16:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the current image until the situation gets sorted out. — RockMFR 18:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Today is Guru Nanak Jayanti in the Sikhism (one of the biggest Sikh festivals) , Shouldn't it be included in On this day...- Reference Reference-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
204.113.71.2 ( talk) 21:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
As it may not be practical to have a 'flag this page for polishing and development so it can appear in DYK/OTD a fortnight hence' tag, perhaps a mention on this talk page/a list off the community portal page might be suitable (with a time-limited appearance - if not dealt with in a week, then the article gets moved to the appropriate open task group). Jackiespeel ( talk) 14:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Why does the Wikipedia logo have a ' on the left hand side of the omega sign? This is not in accordance with Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos. 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 10:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The situation currently unfolding in Orlando should be added to the ITN section 69.41.192.218 ( talk) 18:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The article London Gazette says that it claims to be the oldest surviving English-language newspaper, whereas the Main Page synopsis (under "On this day...") says that it is the oldest surviving English-language newspaper. -- Wavelength ( talk) 02:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Please transfer this file on commons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ivars_Godmanis_on_left.JPG -- 77.48.153.172 ( talk) 09:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
You play right into the hands of the criminals, who may be pathologically focused on garnering publicity at any cost. Very poor editorial policy on your part. If you must display a photograph of the incident, you would be much wiser to display a picture of a victim, or of the location. Haiduc ( talk) 23:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
The man was shot and stopped, the only choice would be the woman who shot him or one of the victims. Under the circumstances the perpetrator is the one most associated with the act, so the picture was appropriate. Darrenhusted ( talk) 00:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Just a little curious here - today (November 8) is the "Synaxis of Archangel Michael", for the Eastern Christians. It's a pretty big day for Eastern Chrisitianity, and while it does have a western equivalent, why not display it like you would with the other national/cultural/religious dates? Just a bit of fairness, not like every Eastern christian thing should be put there. Just the major ones should be listed like the major western christian things already are. No biggy though, since I can just click on November 8. But I'd rather just scroll once, take a peek, go 'ahhh' and then go on with my usual time wasting. -- 60.230.224.107 ( talk) 03:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
As this is the second religious festivity to be notable for its non-mention, it seems that this area needs developing.
How about clarifying the line : 'Many other Wikipedias are available; some of the largest are listed below' to ... 'There are many Wikipedias available in other languages, including:' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.136.61 ( talk) 03:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't OTD have something about this? It's quite important...
~ Luna-chan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.190.199.242 ( talk) 00:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
On a related note; Why isn't File:Halt hier grenze.jpg not being used in the FA area?? It's on the commons, and of a free license, and is the lead image of the article, so what gives?-- 293.xx.xxx.xx ( talk) 05:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The FA is on the Inner German Border not the Berlin Wall. Thus there is no reason why the Berlin Wall should not be included in OTD. Phillipmorantking ( talk) 10:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Since someone may soon ask why it isn't on the Main Page yet it is here but is too short at the moment. Please assist with its expansion if you wish. :) -- can dle • wicke 03:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I know it's one of these perennial issues but it was interesting to see that Elmo and Grover have joined the United States Marine Corps. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Since I'm sure we're going to get a ton of complaints as we do every year, can we keep discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Abolish the silly headers please Nil Einne ( talk) 06:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
This banner ad ("Wikipedia Forever") seems very Orwellian and frightening. Has Wikipedia been hacked? 66.31.202.119 ( talk) 09:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
That's an unusual way to format it since any function can be f(x), that just a notation. Remove the "the" and "y = f(x)", it's redundant. -- 84.251.122.251 ( talk) 21:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I haven't looked at Wikipedia for a while, but on reading the main page today, I noticed that 3 of the 4 most recent featured articles are about US people or places. Is this a pattern? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.16.131 ( talk) 04:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The first ITN item has the word "electric" misspelled. Just FYI.-- 208.82.225.245 ( talk) 06:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it's already possible somehow, but it'd be nice if there was an easy, one or two click type way of posting today's feature article to social networking websites.
Also, was it really necessary for me to trawl through the page's source code just to post this comment? Reentim ( talk) 03:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Where can I find how much money has been raised each day? Thanks 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 11:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Video/computer games are not important enough to be a featured article. Only people without normal lives think them important. 84.13.175.130 ( talk) 00:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
There is a serious point here. Many of these article are thinly veiled product placements; puff pieces for the companies concerned. Also, their references are very vague. For example, they always state that the game was "well received" with a rather flimsy reference. Surely it is not beyond the bounds of the FA selection criteria to feature a balanced selection of articles. (Also, abusive comments are inappropriate in these discussions and just indicate a lack of good manners. Awernham ( talk) 13:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
On a lighter note, I would consider anyone who spends there time posting on the talk of the Main Page of Wikipedia to not have quite a "normal" life. Oh, wait, that includes me! :) Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 16:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah... sigh... I started a discussion on this about a month or two ago which resulted in a general agreement that things were a bit askew -and yet here's another game. Between the overabundance of featured articles of games created by white men and the overabundance of featured articles about white men, white men have pretty much got the featured article completely monopolized. The purpose of this discussion is not to discuss what constitutes a "normal" person, but what constitutes a fair, inclusive, unbiased "featured article" page. An inability to recognize shortcomings and a failure to adapt will define the general character of the English Wikipedians. Paradise coyote ( talk) 17:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
So when are the 'Computer games and assorted Sports' main page and the 'Non-work/school/library/ Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' children safe front pages going to be set up as alternative start pages? Along with a 'to report errors click here' link at the top of the talk page much 'wailing and gnashing of teeth' would be avoided. Jackiespeel ( talk) 14:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I notice that a lot of people use this talk page to address errors on the main page. Is it possible, in order to resolve errors in a quicker manner, to add a tab solely for error reports? By that I mean one thus: "main page | discussion | edit this page | new section | report an error | history", or one visible from the main page itself. 79.79.17.155 ( talk) 14:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
If I report an error in "pic o' the day," for example, and the next day there is a new pic o' the day, how can I go back to see what comments were made subsequent to my report? Eh?
Finally a worth the Main Page! And here I was thinking there was some rule preventing IMPORTANT deaths to be news items... I guess nobody IMPORTANT had died this year... until now, that is! 190.157.137.110 ( talk) 21:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Just to add balance before this discussion closes,I was very interested to know that Vitaliy Ginzburg had died, since I understand his importance and the importance of people like him in the real history that shapes our lives. As a counter example, like many people,I found the death of Michael Jackson an uninteresting and essentially boring matter. He was an ephemeral phenomenon, and did not shape history in any relevant way (except possibly the need for greater focus on childcare). Nice songs, but a mayfly. Remember that Wikipedia is for everyone. Michael of Lucan ( talk) 18:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
It had to be said. — RockMFR 00:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I find it rather ironic that there is the banner on Wikipedia saying "Knowledge Forever, Ad-Free Forever, Wikipedia Forever" and yet it is advertising itself and the fundraiser. Simply south ( talk) 15:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
What about (great x several) grand-daughters and 'persons of other genders?' What if 2012 doomsday/computer clock bug/other scenario comes into effect. 22:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Why wont it let me start an new article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 10:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Why do I need an account to create a page but not edit? "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit but not create" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 10:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for that. Thou it does not seem very welcoming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 11:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Of course ANYONE can edit, and ANYONE can create, too, as ANYONE can register and make an account. It is free, but it doesn't mean without rules and procedures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.78.193.1 ( talk) 13:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
im unwilling to create one
Get a free cookie! All you need is to ask please. What, you don't want to ask? You're "opposed" to asking for things? You want a cookie, but won't do the simple request to say please? So I will not give you a cookie. And yes, it is still a cookie anyone can have. 187.78.103.179 ( talk) 11:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
(in millions), and then again 13.3M - that seems redundant. Surely, we don't have 13.3 million million articles... Cribananda ( talk) 01:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
While I like most of the featured pictures, today's was especially enjoyable. Very informative caption. 04redsox07 ( talk) 13:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Now this is getting out of hand. I understand I am taking a slight joke seriously/literally, but to say he "thanked god" when he was an Atheist..Well, is somebody trying to start a flame-war between somebody again? (actually, I'd say the wording on the "latest articles" section has been silly at times lately, to be honest). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.95.251 ( talk) 22:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Any complaints from Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, atheist section?. 14:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
In case anyone has a serious complaint, On the Origin of Species was put on the Main Page to honor its 150th anniversary of publication. Dabomb87 ( talk) 01:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The linked article makes no mention of a de version of the phrase, & I can't recall ever coming across one. Peter jackson ( talk) 11:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Did someone remove the news of an arrested chinese human-rights activist for supposedly releasing "state secrets"? Is china lack of freedom of speech reaching Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.126.249.189 ( talk) 22:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
1 January 2009? If so, according to this then we have collected way more. Thanks. 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 00:46, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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Where did the discussion just vanish to?
There will always be the 'occasional article' which causes 'wailing and gnashing of teeth' on the grounds that it will upset the hypersensitive offspring of Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells and/or workplace/library 'inappropriate viewing filters' (which can be somewhat idiosyncratic). There are also a number of articles which are 'for various reasons' kept off the front page, however good they are as articles.
Collectively these will include certain topics mainly in a few categories (including, but not limited to adult, war, and medical). Unless there is fork of WP which leads on such topics, there is a case for providing a 'summary that is unlikely to cause offence' (leaving the terms that cause comment on the actual article) - equivalent to the links on April Fools day articles. Jackiespeel ( talk) 13:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
Carrying on from the fact/fiction WP suggestion above - 'unsigned in' have a fairly vanilla FA and selection of entries in DYN and On This Day: but on signing in can have the WP equivalent of computer wallpaper - sports, games, history, technology... according to selection.
As far as I can see in 'any given 4-6 months' there will be at least one in each of the categories (a) 'Not being suitable for DoTW's children/workplace computers', (b) 'Why are we having a run of (insert theme here) articles' and (c) 'This is too trivial a subject to appear on the MP/be submitted for FA status.' (Any further suggestions?) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I meant 'during every period of 4-6 months' there will be a certain number of FA articles etc which cause discussion on their appropriateness - and I know creating the non-vanilla versions would involve much work.
What would the the WP version of 'disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' be? (The equivalent of the woman who told Samuel Johnson that she was pleased there were no 'rude words' in his dictionary to which he made a acerbic remark about her having been looking for them.) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
We really need to stop putting photos next to irrelevant captions.... How many times has this come up now? -- MZMcBride ( talk) 09:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
We really need to stop putting photos next to irrelevant captions.... How many times has this come up now? Oh, I would say this issue has come up occasionally for the past four or five years. There is even a whole section of Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page devoted to it here. Again, its a combination of two issues: first, not always having a suitable picture for the top event. And second, because the Main Page templates are also transcluded on other pages, many people do not want to lower the image closer to relevant event ( like on the French Wikipedia) since it may interfere with the formatting on those other pages. Of course, there have been proposals to bold "(pictured)", highlight the relevant event, and others, but so far there has been no consensus for an alternative. Cheers. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 15:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
Please change "batttery" to "battery." Featured Article as it appears on the Main Page. -- 136.183.240.185 ( talk) 00:53, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
[3]Why isn’t it in the news? Sorry if I’m asking a redundant question. -- Sooo Kawaii!!! ^__^ ( talk) 22:25, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
It's heartwarming to see Norway back in the DYK column — especially now in the afterglow of that country's No. 1 ranking in the United Nations Development Program's index of desirable countries in which to live (Oct. 4).
Sca (
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17:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
At the top of the main page, there should be a content box saying "Create New Page". That would be really convenient and helpful, to me anyway. Talk to me here, Qwertyfish11 ( talk) 14:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
I noticed that the news section listed that the Church of Scientology was convicted of fraud. Now the headline is gone. What happened? Conspiracy? 161.221.87.4 ( talk) 23:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
No mysterious conspiracy at all; it was added without the usual discussion, and it's the sort of thing that shouldn't be added without the usual discussion, so it's been removed ( see here). It looks like it has already been proposed to add it again, though, so it might reappear. — Gavia immer ( talk) 00:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
What on earth is the release of Windows 7 doing on the front In the News? Since when was the release of commercial products placed In the News? I didn't see OS X Snow Leopard there when that was released, nor when Cola Lime was released. 92.8.141.202 ( talk) 12:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm waiting for the U.S. bias argument on this one. – Howard the Duck 17:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Perhaps you should have contributed to WP:ITN/C where it was discussed and consensus was broadly for it being posted? I'm fairly indifferent about it, myself, because the reaction has much more subdued than I remember the release of Windows '95 being. On the other hand, it's much more notable than other OSes, whether Snow Leopard, Ubuntu, Haiku, or MorphOS, simply due to its marketshare, so I find the "equal treatment" argument rather fallacious. - 93.97.122.93 ( talk) 19:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
If we don't include major deaths because someone was old and likely to die soon anyway, why would we include the release of a major consumer product that most everyone knew was coming anyway? IIIVIX ( Talk) 21:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
We seem to be losing sight of the fact. So far as I'm aware, and please correct me if I'm wrong, no other commercial release of a product has ever been displayed on the front ITN, including the Vista release; why is this a valid exception? 92.11.57.193 ( talk) 11:01, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Please vote to keep or remove Windows 7 from ITN
here --
Fixman
Praise me
15:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
O HAI! IZ IN UR WIKIPEDIAS. howcheng { chat} 05:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
The news item says they were kidnapped in Colombia; but they were from Colombia. They were actually kidnapped just across the border in Venezuela. Elphion ( talk) 06:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
You cannot "participate in a scandal." You can be involved in a scandal or participate in a crime. Please correct. Haiduc ( talk) 19:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Today's Tsar bomba entry says, "With a yield of around 50 megatons, it was the largest nuclear weapon ever detonated to date." I believe it remains the largest ever detonated, so the text should say is, and to date is redundant. Also, can't we just call it a bomb? This is English Wikipedia. Sca ( talk) 14:15, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Besides eg many newspapers are referred to by their foreign language names - Der Speigel and Pravda to give two examples - rather than the translation. Jackiespeel ( talk) 17:10, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Possibly if the Tsar Bomba were more widely known in English speaking areas it would be naturalised - like Titulus Regius. 22:22, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, would someone familiar with the effects of having Featured Articles on the Main Page be able to comment here: WP:VPR#Main page Article Editing - reboot? Thanks. Rd232 talk 21:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Ho hum. We just had a featured picture of flies fucking on the front page a little over two weeks ago ( here). How about a little variety? Maybe a cricket getting a handjob or something? 71.162.30.47 ( talk) 01:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
Wow, there's a whole category for fly sex! Amazing! — RockMFR 01:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC) ps:inteligenza m inteligenza —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.6.74.180 ( talk) 01:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I believe User:Howcheng who schedules WP:TFP does so largely in order of promotion. SOme images are delayed or put ahead when there's a relevant date and if two flies came up in a row, Howcheng would probably delay one for balance but may not consider so far ahead. Nil Einne ( talk) 13:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
When is the 'non-work/library etc safe' alternative front page/linkages fork being set up (whether or not concentrating on such things - to include political non-mainstream, medical, military, 'yuck-factor' non-pc and similar items)? 15:05, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the division I was making is fairly clear - work/library/similar safe and 'things which are likely to annoy Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells and sprogs thereof/the more generally annoying corners of the political spectrum, some war-related, medical/veterinary topics which are incompatible with biscuit crumbs and drinks of choice...' (Some blocking set ups can be idiosycratic - ecclesiastical history blocked as occult ( Richard Dawkins not involved) and the 1851 census blocked as matchmaking (presumable aimed at the zombie/ vampire market). And consider the triffid/ Ent-centri wiki(s) discussions on main page images of flowers. My comment is a semi-humorous suggestion of how to resolve the matter. (And, as I have previously suggested a 'Random Article with an improvement tag attached' link, for this fork there could be a 'random non-work/library/etc safe page' link - adult, exotic medical, exotic insect... etc etc.) Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
There is also the Product Placement Wiki front page fork.
How could WP be turned into a computer game? (Gain points by improving articles! Have a High Noon encounter with a WPVandal!...) Jackiespeel ( talk) 18:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
How should text be turned into images (apart from using some of the fancy effects in Word - ants, flashing lights etc) - or are we going retro to early text-based games? Jackiespeel ( talk) 16:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Before this topic and its diversions disappear off the event horizon of interest - for starters a Wikipedia version of Mornington Crescent (game).
The triffid/Ent wikis are at present hypothetical. Jackiespeel ( talk) 19:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Nowt to do with me (g). What next - mushrooms, fish, peacock in full display.... Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Stopcock, cockpit, and to go with the WP Mornington Crescent game suggestion above, Cockfosters tube Station. Jackiespeel ( talk) 15:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
And, for the game, points are gained for resolving 'Wikiwhacks' (orphaned articles), with a multiplier for a Wikipeida six degrees of separation linkage for 'entries not being part of a group.'
Anyone wishing to develop this game further 'in a suitable place' can (g). Jackiespeel ( talk) 23:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Since Windows 7 was able to make an ITN insertion, couldn't Ubuntu do the same as it's not a commercial product and has a rapidly increasing market share? (forgive my newbiness in not knowing how to sign my name to edits. I'm user Malignus) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malignus ( talk • contribs) 14:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
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I get the theme today. Very well done. Except that while the FA is Halloween-themed, and the FP is Halloween-themed, and the DYK is Halloween-themed, On This Day has three light-hearted Halloween-themed entries surrounded by Martin Luther and a tragedy involving the deaths of over two hundred people. Not to mention that one of those light-hearted entries is about the "vanishing into the sky" of some convicted terrorists. It sticks out a bit. -- 86.170.64.57 ( talk) 01:18, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Considering the style of On This Day has changed since I first wrote, I feel my point is now redundant. HonouraryMix ( talk) 01:52, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Where has the image for TFA gone? Majorly talk 16:16, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
I've removed the current image until the situation gets sorted out. — RockMFR 18:12, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Today is Guru Nanak Jayanti in the Sikhism (one of the biggest Sikh festivals) , Shouldn't it be included in On this day...- Reference Reference-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:52, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
204.113.71.2 ( talk) 21:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
As it may not be practical to have a 'flag this page for polishing and development so it can appear in DYK/OTD a fortnight hence' tag, perhaps a mention on this talk page/a list off the community portal page might be suitable (with a time-limited appearance - if not dealt with in a week, then the article gets moved to the appropriate open task group). Jackiespeel ( talk) 14:37, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Why does the Wikipedia logo have a ' on the left hand side of the omega sign? This is not in accordance with Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos. 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 10:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The situation currently unfolding in Orlando should be added to the ITN section 69.41.192.218 ( talk) 18:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
The article London Gazette says that it claims to be the oldest surviving English-language newspaper, whereas the Main Page synopsis (under "On this day...") says that it is the oldest surviving English-language newspaper. -- Wavelength ( talk) 02:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Please transfer this file on commons: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ivars_Godmanis_on_left.JPG -- 77.48.153.172 ( talk) 09:36, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
You play right into the hands of the criminals, who may be pathologically focused on garnering publicity at any cost. Very poor editorial policy on your part. If you must display a photograph of the incident, you would be much wiser to display a picture of a victim, or of the location. Haiduc ( talk) 23:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
The man was shot and stopped, the only choice would be the woman who shot him or one of the victims. Under the circumstances the perpetrator is the one most associated with the act, so the picture was appropriate. Darrenhusted ( talk) 00:26, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Just a little curious here - today (November 8) is the "Synaxis of Archangel Michael", for the Eastern Christians. It's a pretty big day for Eastern Chrisitianity, and while it does have a western equivalent, why not display it like you would with the other national/cultural/religious dates? Just a bit of fairness, not like every Eastern christian thing should be put there. Just the major ones should be listed like the major western christian things already are. No biggy though, since I can just click on November 8. But I'd rather just scroll once, take a peek, go 'ahhh' and then go on with my usual time wasting. -- 60.230.224.107 ( talk) 03:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
As this is the second religious festivity to be notable for its non-mention, it seems that this area needs developing.
How about clarifying the line : 'Many other Wikipedias are available; some of the largest are listed below' to ... 'There are many Wikipedias available in other languages, including:' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.136.61 ( talk) 03:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't OTD have something about this? It's quite important...
~ Luna-chan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.190.199.242 ( talk) 00:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
On a related note; Why isn't File:Halt hier grenze.jpg not being used in the FA area?? It's on the commons, and of a free license, and is the lead image of the article, so what gives?-- 293.xx.xxx.xx ( talk) 05:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
The FA is on the Inner German Border not the Berlin Wall. Thus there is no reason why the Berlin Wall should not be included in OTD. Phillipmorantking ( talk) 10:22, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Since someone may soon ask why it isn't on the Main Page yet it is here but is too short at the moment. Please assist with its expansion if you wish. :) -- can dle • wicke 03:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I know it's one of these perennial issues but it was interesting to see that Elmo and Grover have joined the United States Marine Corps. :) Garion96 (talk) 20:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Since I'm sure we're going to get a ton of complaints as we do every year, can we keep discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Abolish the silly headers please Nil Einne ( talk) 06:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
This banner ad ("Wikipedia Forever") seems very Orwellian and frightening. Has Wikipedia been hacked? 66.31.202.119 ( talk) 09:05, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
That's an unusual way to format it since any function can be f(x), that just a notation. Remove the "the" and "y = f(x)", it's redundant. -- 84.251.122.251 ( talk) 21:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
I haven't looked at Wikipedia for a while, but on reading the main page today, I noticed that 3 of the 4 most recent featured articles are about US people or places. Is this a pattern? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.16.131 ( talk) 04:57, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
The first ITN item has the word "electric" misspelled. Just FYI.-- 208.82.225.245 ( talk) 06:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it's already possible somehow, but it'd be nice if there was an easy, one or two click type way of posting today's feature article to social networking websites.
Also, was it really necessary for me to trawl through the page's source code just to post this comment? Reentim ( talk) 03:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Where can I find how much money has been raised each day? Thanks 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 11:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
Video/computer games are not important enough to be a featured article. Only people without normal lives think them important. 84.13.175.130 ( talk) 00:56, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
There is a serious point here. Many of these article are thinly veiled product placements; puff pieces for the companies concerned. Also, their references are very vague. For example, they always state that the game was "well received" with a rather flimsy reference. Surely it is not beyond the bounds of the FA selection criteria to feature a balanced selection of articles. (Also, abusive comments are inappropriate in these discussions and just indicate a lack of good manners. Awernham ( talk) 13:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
On a lighter note, I would consider anyone who spends there time posting on the talk of the Main Page of Wikipedia to not have quite a "normal" life. Oh, wait, that includes me! :) Cheers! Scapler ( talk) 16:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah... sigh... I started a discussion on this about a month or two ago which resulted in a general agreement that things were a bit askew -and yet here's another game. Between the overabundance of featured articles of games created by white men and the overabundance of featured articles about white men, white men have pretty much got the featured article completely monopolized. The purpose of this discussion is not to discuss what constitutes a "normal" person, but what constitutes a fair, inclusive, unbiased "featured article" page. An inability to recognize shortcomings and a failure to adapt will define the general character of the English Wikipedians. Paradise coyote ( talk) 17:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
So when are the 'Computer games and assorted Sports' main page and the 'Non-work/school/library/ Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells' children safe front pages going to be set up as alternative start pages? Along with a 'to report errors click here' link at the top of the talk page much 'wailing and gnashing of teeth' would be avoided. Jackiespeel ( talk) 14:26, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
I notice that a lot of people use this talk page to address errors on the main page. Is it possible, in order to resolve errors in a quicker manner, to add a tab solely for error reports? By that I mean one thus: "main page | discussion | edit this page | new section | report an error | history", or one visible from the main page itself. 79.79.17.155 ( talk) 14:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
If I report an error in "pic o' the day," for example, and the next day there is a new pic o' the day, how can I go back to see what comments were made subsequent to my report? Eh?
Finally a worth the Main Page! And here I was thinking there was some rule preventing IMPORTANT deaths to be news items... I guess nobody IMPORTANT had died this year... until now, that is! 190.157.137.110 ( talk) 21:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Just to add balance before this discussion closes,I was very interested to know that Vitaliy Ginzburg had died, since I understand his importance and the importance of people like him in the real history that shapes our lives. As a counter example, like many people,I found the death of Michael Jackson an uninteresting and essentially boring matter. He was an ephemeral phenomenon, and did not shape history in any relevant way (except possibly the need for greater focus on childcare). Nice songs, but a mayfly. Remember that Wikipedia is for everyone. Michael of Lucan ( talk) 18:27, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
It had to be said. — RockMFR 00:46, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I find it rather ironic that there is the banner on Wikipedia saying "Knowledge Forever, Ad-Free Forever, Wikipedia Forever" and yet it is advertising itself and the fundraiser. Simply south ( talk) 15:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
What about (great x several) grand-daughters and 'persons of other genders?' What if 2012 doomsday/computer clock bug/other scenario comes into effect. 22:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
Why wont it let me start an new article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 10:05, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Why do I need an account to create a page but not edit? "Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit but not create" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 10:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for that. Thou it does not seem very welcoming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.114.116 ( talk) 11:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Of course ANYONE can edit, and ANYONE can create, too, as ANYONE can register and make an account. It is free, but it doesn't mean without rules and procedures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.78.193.1 ( talk) 13:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
im unwilling to create one
Get a free cookie! All you need is to ask please. What, you don't want to ask? You're "opposed" to asking for things? You want a cookie, but won't do the simple request to say please? So I will not give you a cookie. And yes, it is still a cookie anyone can have. 187.78.103.179 ( talk) 11:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
(in millions), and then again 13.3M - that seems redundant. Surely, we don't have 13.3 million million articles... Cribananda ( talk) 01:35, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
While I like most of the featured pictures, today's was especially enjoyable. Very informative caption. 04redsox07 ( talk) 13:36, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Now this is getting out of hand. I understand I am taking a slight joke seriously/literally, but to say he "thanked god" when he was an Atheist..Well, is somebody trying to start a flame-war between somebody again? (actually, I'd say the wording on the "latest articles" section has been silly at times lately, to be honest). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.238.95.251 ( talk) 22:05, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
Any complaints from Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells, atheist section?. 14:33, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
In case anyone has a serious complaint, On the Origin of Species was put on the Main Page to honor its 150th anniversary of publication. Dabomb87 ( talk) 01:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
The linked article makes no mention of a de version of the phrase, & I can't recall ever coming across one. Peter jackson ( talk) 11:55, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Did someone remove the news of an arrested chinese human-rights activist for supposedly releasing "state secrets"? Is china lack of freedom of speech reaching Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.126.249.189 ( talk) 22:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
1 January 2009? If so, according to this then we have collected way more. Thanks. 128.232.247.48 ( talk) 00:46, 26 November 2009 (UTC)