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I suggest that we eliminate the “Further reading” list from the article. WP:FURTHER READING suggests that if a FR section is “primarily intended for publications that were NOT (caps added) used by editors to build the current article content, but which the editors recommend.” [1]. I notice that the one and only book listed in the FR section to this article is already referenced 20+times in the article, so it would not seem to be a good candidate in this light.
Also, WP:FURTHERREADING [2] says that “the inclusion of a Further reading section is optional, and many good articles, and more than half of all featured articles, omit it entirely. This section is present in fewer than 3% of Wikipedia's articles.´
Any objection to simply removing it? EMP ( talk 21:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
In this article, it says, "During their stay, the Beatles heard that the Maharishi had made sexual advances towards *Mia Farrow*.". However, in the article "The Beatles (album)", it says, "According to some reports, Lennon left Rishikesh because he felt personally betrayed by rumours that Maharishi had made sexual advances toward *Mia Farrow's sister Prudence*, who had accompanied The Beatles on their trip.". Which is it, Prudence or Mia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patientbomb ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the two sentences of primary sourced content at Maharishi Ved Vigyan Vishwa Vidyapeetham (see content below) be merged to the appropriate section in this article. Comments?
The article MERU, Holland is a coatrack (see discussion [3] here) I propose that:
Comments? suggestions? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that the extraordinary claim cited to a primary source be removed from the article.
This section [6] discusses "organizations" only in the loosest possible way, and not beyond the first paragraph. The second paragraph discusses MMY's earnings and his view of money. Some of this information is actually in the Characterization section [7], verbatim, in some parts. I am proposing we merge the second paragraph to the Characterization section to avoid repetitions. Any other ideas?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 06:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Please discuss the concerns and changes to content here before adding them to an article. All of the content must be sourced to WP:RS. Wikipedia is not a forum for opinion-what any of us thinks about the topic but rather about what the sources say about the topic. My edit summary directed you to TM article .... I apologize. The discussion for this article is here on the MMY talk page. ( olive ( talk) 16:05, 29 May 2013 (UTC))
Losbellos has been indef blocked, but I think this may a good time to look through his additions anyway, for content we could add to the article. A quick scan of the edits shows almost no reliable sources if any, some OR, and lots of opinion but let's take a look.( olive ( talk) 20:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC))
This edit by banned User:Losbellos removed a lot of contentious content and several sources. (below):
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That's not an acceptable edit to me, what do others say? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
I have to agree, I do not see a reason to remove properly sourced content in favor of unsourced content. At most, had Losbellos cited a RS, the new content could have been added, but not used instead of the original content, but it isn't sourced, so the addition should be removed. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 02:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Again these additions have no sources so they may be OR.If any of the four cites stated he was an "Administrative" Assistant instead of simply "assistant" we could leave that. I will try to find the sources mentioned and review them-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Unsourced opinion not WP compliant, and adds nothing to the article.( olive ( talk) 22:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC))
No source, and I don't really understand it. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Although Brahmachari Mahesh was a close disciple, he could not be the Shankaracharya's spiritual successor because he was not of the Brahmin caste. so this is redundant, assuming I'm understanding the edit.( olive ( talk) 02:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC))
This appears to be OR, it is a personal opinion of the authir without any sources. I don't see that it can be used. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The first half of this sentence does not seem to have proper sources, old sources have been recycled but the sentences have been changed and thus those sources no longer apply. Losbellos did introduce a new source, but it is a blog and OR. However, there is a sentence about the Maharishi renaming the technique "Transcendental Meditation" at a later time, which cites a book by Peter Russell. The source may be accurate for that purpose, thought I could not check it. Losbellos also cites a book: "The Splendours And Dimensions of Yoga" [8]and asserts that the book states that the Maharishi "received the title Maharishi, from some Indian Pundits". However I have been unable to find any reference to pundits conferring that title, so this may not be accurate either. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 23:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
This appears to be a rehashing of point 5 above, and thus the same comment would apply to both. This section too appear to be haphazardly sourced, and with three separate sources attesting to the year "1955', it really does look as if Losbellos has recycled old sources used earlier but cut out the content the sources referred to.-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:46, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
This sentence as many others written by Losbellos does not belong in an article about MMY as it is about TM and its worth, and not MMY. I think that similar assertions more correctly made already exist in the TM technique article, This sentence should be moved and reformulated unless it already exists. The second sentence is OR and cannot be used anywhere unless properly sourced. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:36, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
There are ten thousands of reports, including TM movements own researches that tm technique causes very serious mental breakdowns, including murders,suicides. [30] A research explaining the major change in serotonin level while practicing tm. [31] It is known that this is the main reason behind many problems with the TM technique because it is a scientific evidence that serotonin imbalance causes psychological problems [32]
The first sentence does not have a citation or source, merely an anecdotal account; the second sentence makes a reference to a primary source and is very general. The sentence about changes in serotonin level during TM practice does link to a study named in PubMed which seems to report higher serotonin levels during TM practice. However the conclusion of the sentence is sourced to a Wikipedia article that explains a theory linking depression to a lack of, among other things, serotonin. The PubMed abstract seems to show that TM promotes higher serotonin levels, so this last source is both not an RS, as it violates WP:COPYWITHIN nor does it support the concept expressed. I'd prefer if someone had a second look, especially at the scientific study, but I was not able to find anything that was properly sourced in this section. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't see that we can use any of this content.( olive ( talk) 02:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC))
Here is the current text from the article on the Science of Being:
While it is generally neutral information (not subjectively picked like the Gita section), it is more like a book report and again here as with the Gita section the book itself is the only source. I'd like to replace the above text with info from secondary sources that give an overview of the book. Comments? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Thoughts?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 05:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Possible Sources:
I have given my opinion and am wondering if there are others who might weigh in. I do not see how Losbellos' additions, for the most part, are properly sourced, or could be kept, but before I do anything I'd like to know if any one else cares to comment. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 08:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I only skimmed over this article, but I've wondered if there is some reason why his significant other (for lack of other words) Sue Jones, who worked in the music industry, and at least two children who became commercially successful musicians. It appears to me that this biography is more about the The Beatles, and Transcendental Meditation than about some other topics which may have separate pages-- I didn't look, but they do deserve to have sufficient coverage here as well. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 04:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Over one half of this title section [ [9]] is made up by a single source, and some of its material does not seem terribly relevant. No page number is cited, and the discussion may be slightly off topic as well. I propose we summarize it as follows:
In his biography of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, The Story of the Maharishi (published 1976), William Jefferson suggests that the financial aspect of the TM organisation was one of the greatest controversies it faced. The controversy circled around the Maharishi's mission, the comments from leaders of the movement at that time, and fees and charges the TM organisation made. Jefferson says that the concerns with money came from journalists more than those who have learned to meditate. [36]
This version eliminates quotes from the Maharishi which were not as relevant to the content, and also what seems to be an opinion sentence regarding the events from the author himself. Comments?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 04:30, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
I've removed [10] this text which was cited to a personal blog:
If reliable secondary sources can be found it could be added to the The Beatles in India article but I think it is gives undue weight to a minor event to have it here in this BLP.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
If you want to write pages of your own opinion upon any subject or person - write a book. But stop claiming ANY encyclopedic interests or intensions for your "work". This very article is a waste of bytes and time, it is no b-class quality it's z-class, at most!
Instead of relying on a ridiculously small number of sources (partially Maharishi's own writings, my dear, whom do you want to kiddy?) you could at least point out that it's by far not that easy to find some more neutral and objective depictions and works about this man.
I don't have to mention the complete and obvious lack of any critical section, do I? And it wasn't hard to overlook that one little phrase - referring to a critical documentary about TM - as you wished all possibly annoying thoughts away and kept praising Maharishi within the very same sentence. That's a professional way how to deal with multiple views and judgements on a person, congratulations.
Most entertainingly, you've ignored the fact that the former head of TM was the origin of most of the ideas how to generate money out of nothing, out of the wish to meditate and become a better human. The first thing you would have to do to begin a first course is: paying the bill. When you climb up the ladder of self-improvement, you'll continously pay the bill. And, highly surprisingly, your efforts and progress are promising and you can lose your money, I mean climb up further - there are just no boundaries... Of course, open criticism, free speech, own thoughts, a plurality of opinions, individuality and personal independence would be so.... redundant... Just spend your funds and henceforth improve the world, the interior world of Maharishi's briefcase, namely. The greedy, manipulative cult-charactre of TM that made the organisation comparable to scientology traces back to this very man, Maharishi. To pretend frugal ways of living - to the point of ascetism - while earning countless mountains of money and rejoicing at any promiscious opportunity could be worthy to be mentioned, I assume...
I wish I could have acknowledged anything non-onesided, any further knowledge, at least a very little rest of honesty in his living, any philosphically or spiritually noticable thoughts of his, any small details I could have not yet known - but no, in vain. It remains a commercial for Maharishi and TM. Criticism is impure, methinks, as well as thinking.
Erasing the whole of this article would be the first act of true encyclopedic work.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.18.26 ( talk) 20:23, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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Michael Freedman a Spiritual Teacher is a noted person in New Zealand and disciple of Maharishi. He is recognized in NZ for his contribution to alternative spirituality and also to TM. Where he continued Maharishi's work and was instrumental to teaching/providing TM (from 1976 to 1996) to over 70,000 people in NZ/Australia. The NZ correspondence TM course being recommended by the Australian Heart Disease Manual. One should not judge nor compare to pop stars like the Beatles etc.. of international fame. Rather should include persons whom were disciples of Maharishi whom continued the TM meditation and spiritual work. Corbold was a major figure in New Zealand alternative spirituality. He died in 1996. Unlike the Beatles who did things for publicly stunts, he worked quietly and it is difficult to find out information. That he was a disciple of Yogi, can be Australian newspaper links (previously provided but removed by censorship of wiki editor). Corbold has a section of Prof Ellwood research book Islands of the Dawn, alternative spirituality in NZ; and is also within Prof Donovan's Beliefs practices in New Zealand (Massey University study) and also Michael Howards' Modern Wicca and is mentioned in other publications such as New Zealand Listener etc. He founded the TM Research Foundation and TM Society in NZ (see Companies Office of NZ records), these with the cooperation of Professors from the University of Auckland School of Medicine' was well known among medical practitioners in this country for the TM course which helped over 10,000 person in this small country. Can the same be said for the Beatles ! All this information is available publicly. Persons included on this page, should not have to compare with pops tars like the Beatles or the Beach Boys but be measured by there contribution to TM. It is like saying someone famous in Fiji won't get a mention, because they are not super pop music stars. That is not what encylopedic content is about. What should be the measure is, what verifiable disciples of Yogi have made an international or national influence in terms of Yogi teachings and meditation methods. Notable characters are those that continued Maharishi's work nationally should be included in this page, so long as it can be verified. Very few persons can compare to the Beatles pop group and they are not even spiritual teachers. Other than Ravi Shankar who can you tell has any real spiritual legacy to Yogi and continued his work as a true master to disciple. Michael Corbold is one such person. I ask the authorities here at Wiki to include Michel Corbold in this page. Faithfully Lenny (jeandecabalis@aim.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.208.248 ( talk) 02:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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Please do not erase the term "British India" from the infobox. Like it or not, Britain once ruled India. Even Gandhi's page listed him as being born in British India. Erasing history here on Wikipedia won't address the injustices in the world. Kiteinthewind Leave a message! 17:55, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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I suggest that we eliminate the “Further reading” list from the article. WP:FURTHER READING suggests that if a FR section is “primarily intended for publications that were NOT (caps added) used by editors to build the current article content, but which the editors recommend.” [1]. I notice that the one and only book listed in the FR section to this article is already referenced 20+times in the article, so it would not seem to be a good candidate in this light.
Also, WP:FURTHERREADING [2] says that “the inclusion of a Further reading section is optional, and many good articles, and more than half of all featured articles, omit it entirely. This section is present in fewer than 3% of Wikipedia's articles.´
Any objection to simply removing it? EMP ( talk 21:24, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
In this article, it says, "During their stay, the Beatles heard that the Maharishi had made sexual advances towards *Mia Farrow*.". However, in the article "The Beatles (album)", it says, "According to some reports, Lennon left Rishikesh because he felt personally betrayed by rumours that Maharishi had made sexual advances toward *Mia Farrow's sister Prudence*, who had accompanied The Beatles on their trip.". Which is it, Prudence or Mia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patientbomb ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I propose that the two sentences of primary sourced content at Maharishi Ved Vigyan Vishwa Vidyapeetham (see content below) be merged to the appropriate section in this article. Comments?
The article MERU, Holland is a coatrack (see discussion [3] here) I propose that:
Comments? suggestions? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:51, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
I suggest that the extraordinary claim cited to a primary source be removed from the article.
This section [6] discusses "organizations" only in the loosest possible way, and not beyond the first paragraph. The second paragraph discusses MMY's earnings and his view of money. Some of this information is actually in the Characterization section [7], verbatim, in some parts. I am proposing we merge the second paragraph to the Characterization section to avoid repetitions. Any other ideas?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 06:08, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
Please discuss the concerns and changes to content here before adding them to an article. All of the content must be sourced to WP:RS. Wikipedia is not a forum for opinion-what any of us thinks about the topic but rather about what the sources say about the topic. My edit summary directed you to TM article .... I apologize. The discussion for this article is here on the MMY talk page. ( olive ( talk) 16:05, 29 May 2013 (UTC))
Losbellos has been indef blocked, but I think this may a good time to look through his additions anyway, for content we could add to the article. A quick scan of the edits shows almost no reliable sources if any, some OR, and lots of opinion but let's take a look.( olive ( talk) 20:10, 29 May 2013 (UTC))
This edit by banned User:Losbellos removed a lot of contentious content and several sources. (below):
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That's not an acceptable edit to me, what do others say? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 20:18, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
I have to agree, I do not see a reason to remove properly sourced content in favor of unsourced content. At most, had Losbellos cited a RS, the new content could have been added, but not used instead of the original content, but it isn't sourced, so the addition should be removed. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 02:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Again these additions have no sources so they may be OR.If any of the four cites stated he was an "Administrative" Assistant instead of simply "assistant" we could leave that. I will try to find the sources mentioned and review them-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Unsourced opinion not WP compliant, and adds nothing to the article.( olive ( talk) 22:27, 15 June 2013 (UTC))
No source, and I don't really understand it. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:06, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Although Brahmachari Mahesh was a close disciple, he could not be the Shankaracharya's spiritual successor because he was not of the Brahmin caste. so this is redundant, assuming I'm understanding the edit.( olive ( talk) 02:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC))
This appears to be OR, it is a personal opinion of the authir without any sources. I don't see that it can be used. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:11, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
The first half of this sentence does not seem to have proper sources, old sources have been recycled but the sentences have been changed and thus those sources no longer apply. Losbellos did introduce a new source, but it is a blog and OR. However, there is a sentence about the Maharishi renaming the technique "Transcendental Meditation" at a later time, which cites a book by Peter Russell. The source may be accurate for that purpose, thought I could not check it. Losbellos also cites a book: "The Splendours And Dimensions of Yoga" [8]and asserts that the book states that the Maharishi "received the title Maharishi, from some Indian Pundits". However I have been unable to find any reference to pundits conferring that title, so this may not be accurate either. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 23:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
This appears to be a rehashing of point 5 above, and thus the same comment would apply to both. This section too appear to be haphazardly sourced, and with three separate sources attesting to the year "1955', it really does look as if Losbellos has recycled old sources used earlier but cut out the content the sources referred to.-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:46, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
This sentence as many others written by Losbellos does not belong in an article about MMY as it is about TM and its worth, and not MMY. I think that similar assertions more correctly made already exist in the TM technique article, This sentence should be moved and reformulated unless it already exists. The second sentence is OR and cannot be used anywhere unless properly sourced. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:36, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
There are ten thousands of reports, including TM movements own researches that tm technique causes very serious mental breakdowns, including murders,suicides. [30] A research explaining the major change in serotonin level while practicing tm. [31] It is known that this is the main reason behind many problems with the TM technique because it is a scientific evidence that serotonin imbalance causes psychological problems [32]
The first sentence does not have a citation or source, merely an anecdotal account; the second sentence makes a reference to a primary source and is very general. The sentence about changes in serotonin level during TM practice does link to a study named in PubMed which seems to report higher serotonin levels during TM practice. However the conclusion of the sentence is sourced to a Wikipedia article that explains a theory linking depression to a lack of, among other things, serotonin. The PubMed abstract seems to show that TM promotes higher serotonin levels, so this last source is both not an RS, as it violates WP:COPYWITHIN nor does it support the concept expressed. I'd prefer if someone had a second look, especially at the scientific study, but I was not able to find anything that was properly sourced in this section. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 03:27, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I don't see that we can use any of this content.( olive ( talk) 02:49, 20 June 2013 (UTC))
Here is the current text from the article on the Science of Being:
While it is generally neutral information (not subjectively picked like the Gita section), it is more like a book report and again here as with the Gita section the book itself is the only source. I'd like to replace the above text with info from secondary sources that give an overview of the book. Comments? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 18:38, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
Thoughts?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 05:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Possible Sources:
I have given my opinion and am wondering if there are others who might weigh in. I do not see how Losbellos' additions, for the most part, are properly sourced, or could be kept, but before I do anything I'd like to know if any one else cares to comment. -- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 08:34, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I only skimmed over this article, but I've wondered if there is some reason why his significant other (for lack of other words) Sue Jones, who worked in the music industry, and at least two children who became commercially successful musicians. It appears to me that this biography is more about the The Beatles, and Transcendental Meditation than about some other topics which may have separate pages-- I didn't look, but they do deserve to have sufficient coverage here as well. -- Leahtwosaints ( talk) 04:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Over one half of this title section [ [9]] is made up by a single source, and some of its material does not seem terribly relevant. No page number is cited, and the discussion may be slightly off topic as well. I propose we summarize it as follows:
In his biography of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, The Story of the Maharishi (published 1976), William Jefferson suggests that the financial aspect of the TM organisation was one of the greatest controversies it faced. The controversy circled around the Maharishi's mission, the comments from leaders of the movement at that time, and fees and charges the TM organisation made. Jefferson says that the concerns with money came from journalists more than those who have learned to meditate. [36]
This version eliminates quotes from the Maharishi which were not as relevant to the content, and also what seems to be an opinion sentence regarding the events from the author himself. Comments?-- Luke Warmwater101 ( talk) 04:30, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
I've removed [10] this text which was cited to a personal blog:
If reliable secondary sources can be found it could be added to the The Beatles in India article but I think it is gives undue weight to a minor event to have it here in this BLP.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 22:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
If you want to write pages of your own opinion upon any subject or person - write a book. But stop claiming ANY encyclopedic interests or intensions for your "work". This very article is a waste of bytes and time, it is no b-class quality it's z-class, at most!
Instead of relying on a ridiculously small number of sources (partially Maharishi's own writings, my dear, whom do you want to kiddy?) you could at least point out that it's by far not that easy to find some more neutral and objective depictions and works about this man.
I don't have to mention the complete and obvious lack of any critical section, do I? And it wasn't hard to overlook that one little phrase - referring to a critical documentary about TM - as you wished all possibly annoying thoughts away and kept praising Maharishi within the very same sentence. That's a professional way how to deal with multiple views and judgements on a person, congratulations.
Most entertainingly, you've ignored the fact that the former head of TM was the origin of most of the ideas how to generate money out of nothing, out of the wish to meditate and become a better human. The first thing you would have to do to begin a first course is: paying the bill. When you climb up the ladder of self-improvement, you'll continously pay the bill. And, highly surprisingly, your efforts and progress are promising and you can lose your money, I mean climb up further - there are just no boundaries... Of course, open criticism, free speech, own thoughts, a plurality of opinions, individuality and personal independence would be so.... redundant... Just spend your funds and henceforth improve the world, the interior world of Maharishi's briefcase, namely. The greedy, manipulative cult-charactre of TM that made the organisation comparable to scientology traces back to this very man, Maharishi. To pretend frugal ways of living - to the point of ascetism - while earning countless mountains of money and rejoicing at any promiscious opportunity could be worthy to be mentioned, I assume...
I wish I could have acknowledged anything non-onesided, any further knowledge, at least a very little rest of honesty in his living, any philosphically or spiritually noticable thoughts of his, any small details I could have not yet known - but no, in vain. It remains a commercial for Maharishi and TM. Criticism is impure, methinks, as well as thinking.
Erasing the whole of this article would be the first act of true encyclopedic work.
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.18.26 ( talk) 20:23, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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Michael Freedman a Spiritual Teacher is a noted person in New Zealand and disciple of Maharishi. He is recognized in NZ for his contribution to alternative spirituality and also to TM. Where he continued Maharishi's work and was instrumental to teaching/providing TM (from 1976 to 1996) to over 70,000 people in NZ/Australia. The NZ correspondence TM course being recommended by the Australian Heart Disease Manual. One should not judge nor compare to pop stars like the Beatles etc.. of international fame. Rather should include persons whom were disciples of Maharishi whom continued the TM meditation and spiritual work. Corbold was a major figure in New Zealand alternative spirituality. He died in 1996. Unlike the Beatles who did things for publicly stunts, he worked quietly and it is difficult to find out information. That he was a disciple of Yogi, can be Australian newspaper links (previously provided but removed by censorship of wiki editor). Corbold has a section of Prof Ellwood research book Islands of the Dawn, alternative spirituality in NZ; and is also within Prof Donovan's Beliefs practices in New Zealand (Massey University study) and also Michael Howards' Modern Wicca and is mentioned in other publications such as New Zealand Listener etc. He founded the TM Research Foundation and TM Society in NZ (see Companies Office of NZ records), these with the cooperation of Professors from the University of Auckland School of Medicine' was well known among medical practitioners in this country for the TM course which helped over 10,000 person in this small country. Can the same be said for the Beatles ! All this information is available publicly. Persons included on this page, should not have to compare with pops tars like the Beatles or the Beach Boys but be measured by there contribution to TM. It is like saying someone famous in Fiji won't get a mention, because they are not super pop music stars. That is not what encylopedic content is about. What should be the measure is, what verifiable disciples of Yogi have made an international or national influence in terms of Yogi teachings and meditation methods. Notable characters are those that continued Maharishi's work nationally should be included in this page, so long as it can be verified. Very few persons can compare to the Beatles pop group and they are not even spiritual teachers. Other than Ravi Shankar who can you tell has any real spiritual legacy to Yogi and continued his work as a true master to disciple. Michael Corbold is one such person. I ask the authorities here at Wiki to include Michel Corbold in this page. Faithfully Lenny (jeandecabalis@aim.com) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.109.208.248 ( talk) 02:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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Please do not erase the term "British India" from the infobox. Like it or not, Britain once ruled India. Even Gandhi's page listed him as being born in British India. Erasing history here on Wikipedia won't address the injustices in the world. Kiteinthewind Leave a message! 17:55, 30 October 2017 (UTC)