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Spearmint or peppermint? -- DenisYurkin 13:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I edited out the part that read "five teaspoons of sugar to a teaspoon of tea" because that was just absurd, probably the author meant it the other way around, but as I am not sure about that I just had to edit it out. Pouring 1 teaspoon of tea on top of 5 teaspoons of sugar will get you a gooey white substance at best but nothing resembling tea
Sufitul 22:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
You did not get it right. Mint tea is brewed and sugar added in the teapot, not in a glass. 1 tea for 5 sugar is a general proportion. For a 80 cl tea pot (that's 2.5 mugs), I put one tablespoon of tea and 5 tablespoons of sugar.
Gedefr 21:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
In Tunisia (southern coast) I was served mentha tea with almonds - a couple of almonds is put into a glass before the tea is poured in and served to a guest. However, as this information could be considered "own research", I am not putting it the article proper. B.
I lived in the Middle East for 2 years. And not in any of the more modern cities either. I lived in a very traditional section...I am confused by the tea being a "Male affair" because I may have seen men make this maybe 5 times....when I saw it made about that many times per day. Maybe it is different in different countries, but in Jordan (and I am not basing this on 1 family but on about 20 at least)....I feel this is an incorrect statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.172.184 ( talk) 15:11, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
For common English the content of this article "Moroccan mint tea" was moved from "Touareg tea" icetea8 ( talk) 13:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Moved to " Moroccan mint tea", common English. icetea8 ( talk) 14:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
That was a cut and paste move and has been undone. A redirect at Moroccan mint tea is pointing to this article. If the desired location is at Moroccan mint tea, then a request should be made to an admin to delete the redirect at the target, and properly move the article to that title. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a potential copyvio with material at [1]. I've done some analysis and concluded that this is a reverse copyvio and the Wikipedia material is the original.
Firstly, the Wayback Machine indicates the LeJardinsKesali web site only goes back to 2008. That is not definitive but we can look at our own article history. This clearly shows the origin of the preparation paragraph. The start of the paragraph has the same wording as in more recent versions of the article. Over time, the body has been developed to the current wording which is also reflected on the Lesjardins website.
As such, I am reverting the material blanking as it not a copyvio. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The English name is Moroccan mint tea. icetea8 ( talk) 18:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved to Maghrebi mint tea. -- BDD ( talk) 16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Mint tea (Drink) → ? – This article has been boldly moved around a lot. It's time for a formal discussion. The current title is unacceptable, and should redirect to the mint tea disambiguation. The tea described in this article is a local North African version of spearmint tea, as it is prepared with spearmint. This started in August 2004 at Touareg tea, presumably as the tea of the Touareg or Tuareg people. A fork started in September 2006 at Moroccan tea culture. In March 2014, that fork moved to Maghrebi mint tea, the mint tea of the Maghreb region (Northwest Africa). In May 2014, the Touareg tea fork moved to Moroccan mint tea; rationale: WP:ENGLISH. I don't follow that; if Touareg isn't English, we should fix it. In January 2015, the Maghrebi mint tea fork was finally merged to Moroccan mint tea. Perhaps that merge should have been in the other direction. Maghrebi mint tea and Tuareg tea seem like our best options. Or, for "use English", Northwest African mint tea. --Relisted. George Ho ( talk) 10:09, 12 June 2015 (UTC) – Wbm1058 ( talk) 02:24, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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Why does "Spread from Morocco" get to stay despite the fact that no sources are given? The history of its origin is complex and little is known about it, some speculate that it originated in Morocco, that is already mentioned in the history section (where it belongs), stating it as a fact in the intro is extremely biased (As is most of the content on this page: photos of mint tea outside of Morocco have been reported and got taken down, the edit war is strong on this one) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slothtysloth ( talk • contribs) 21:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey @ إيان
As you reverted the title change I made without providing a specific reason, I would like to initiate a discussion with you regarding the title and why you believe we should have an exclusive title such as "Maghrebi" which translates to Moroccan mint tea in Arabic. Various sources indicate that mint tea is a popular drink in all Northern African regions. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could provide clarification and engage in a debate on this matter.
Best regards. Riad Salih ( talk) 19:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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@ M.Bitton: Since my edit got reverted as an advert, I would like to set few things straight: (1) I am OK with the reversal here. The only reason I have added it is due to the fact that I have already written the text for the Tea set and IMHO it was useful here (there are no mentions of tea implements beyond the glasses in the current text. (2) The reason why I wrote the text for Tea set is equally simple: another editor contributed there a similar text using a commercial site as a source. Like you, I do not like commercial element here but, instead of deleting contributions, prefer to replace the links I do not like with normal WP:RS, I rewrote the text in Tea set#Morocco. (3) I do not know anything about Moroccan tea (beyond the facts I learned while writing this text) and am not involved in any way, shape, or form with anything related to this tea. (4) I very definitely do not know the thesis' author, her school, advisors, etc. This is the only source I have found that discusses the Moroccan tea habits in the glorious detail. Викидим ( talk) 23:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Honestly, I didn't check the author at first before undoing my edit, but George's book on the history of tea is well-researched and worth citing. I later found out he's a professor of Historical Linguistics, a field that intersects history and linguistics. MoroccanTeaEnjoyer ( talk) 01:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
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Spearmint or peppermint? -- DenisYurkin 13:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
I edited out the part that read "five teaspoons of sugar to a teaspoon of tea" because that was just absurd, probably the author meant it the other way around, but as I am not sure about that I just had to edit it out. Pouring 1 teaspoon of tea on top of 5 teaspoons of sugar will get you a gooey white substance at best but nothing resembling tea
Sufitul 22:51, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
You did not get it right. Mint tea is brewed and sugar added in the teapot, not in a glass. 1 tea for 5 sugar is a general proportion. For a 80 cl tea pot (that's 2.5 mugs), I put one tablespoon of tea and 5 tablespoons of sugar.
Gedefr 21:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
In Tunisia (southern coast) I was served mentha tea with almonds - a couple of almonds is put into a glass before the tea is poured in and served to a guest. However, as this information could be considered "own research", I am not putting it the article proper. B.
I lived in the Middle East for 2 years. And not in any of the more modern cities either. I lived in a very traditional section...I am confused by the tea being a "Male affair" because I may have seen men make this maybe 5 times....when I saw it made about that many times per day. Maybe it is different in different countries, but in Jordan (and I am not basing this on 1 family but on about 20 at least)....I feel this is an incorrect statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.72.172.184 ( talk) 15:11, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
For common English the content of this article "Moroccan mint tea" was moved from "Touareg tea" icetea8 ( talk) 13:25, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Moved to " Moroccan mint tea", common English. icetea8 ( talk) 14:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
That was a cut and paste move and has been undone. A redirect at Moroccan mint tea is pointing to this article. If the desired location is at Moroccan mint tea, then a request should be made to an admin to delete the redirect at the target, and properly move the article to that title. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:20, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
There is a potential copyvio with material at [1]. I've done some analysis and concluded that this is a reverse copyvio and the Wikipedia material is the original.
Firstly, the Wayback Machine indicates the LeJardinsKesali web site only goes back to 2008. That is not definitive but we can look at our own article history. This clearly shows the origin of the preparation paragraph. The start of the paragraph has the same wording as in more recent versions of the article. Over time, the body has been developed to the current wording which is also reflected on the Lesjardins website.
As such, I am reverting the material blanking as it not a copyvio. -- Whpq ( talk) 16:26, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The English name is Moroccan mint tea. icetea8 ( talk) 18:05, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was moved to Maghrebi mint tea. -- BDD ( talk) 16:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Mint tea (Drink) → ? – This article has been boldly moved around a lot. It's time for a formal discussion. The current title is unacceptable, and should redirect to the mint tea disambiguation. The tea described in this article is a local North African version of spearmint tea, as it is prepared with spearmint. This started in August 2004 at Touareg tea, presumably as the tea of the Touareg or Tuareg people. A fork started in September 2006 at Moroccan tea culture. In March 2014, that fork moved to Maghrebi mint tea, the mint tea of the Maghreb region (Northwest Africa). In May 2014, the Touareg tea fork moved to Moroccan mint tea; rationale: WP:ENGLISH. I don't follow that; if Touareg isn't English, we should fix it. In January 2015, the Maghrebi mint tea fork was finally merged to Moroccan mint tea. Perhaps that merge should have been in the other direction. Maghrebi mint tea and Tuareg tea seem like our best options. Or, for "use English", Northwest African mint tea. --Relisted. George Ho ( talk) 10:09, 12 June 2015 (UTC) – Wbm1058 ( talk) 02:24, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
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First you said, this is not an historian. After historian source you said go to talk page. Why ? The source is correct. Ifni95 ( talk) 00:19, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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Why does "Spread from Morocco" get to stay despite the fact that no sources are given? The history of its origin is complex and little is known about it, some speculate that it originated in Morocco, that is already mentioned in the history section (where it belongs), stating it as a fact in the intro is extremely biased (As is most of the content on this page: photos of mint tea outside of Morocco have been reported and got taken down, the edit war is strong on this one) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slothtysloth ( talk • contribs) 21:45, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey @ إيان
As you reverted the title change I made without providing a specific reason, I would like to initiate a discussion with you regarding the title and why you believe we should have an exclusive title such as "Maghrebi" which translates to Moroccan mint tea in Arabic. Various sources indicate that mint tea is a popular drink in all Northern African regions. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you could provide clarification and engage in a debate on this matter.
Best regards. Riad Salih ( talk) 19:15, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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@ M.Bitton: Since my edit got reverted as an advert, I would like to set few things straight: (1) I am OK with the reversal here. The only reason I have added it is due to the fact that I have already written the text for the Tea set and IMHO it was useful here (there are no mentions of tea implements beyond the glasses in the current text. (2) The reason why I wrote the text for Tea set is equally simple: another editor contributed there a similar text using a commercial site as a source. Like you, I do not like commercial element here but, instead of deleting contributions, prefer to replace the links I do not like with normal WP:RS, I rewrote the text in Tea set#Morocco. (3) I do not know anything about Moroccan tea (beyond the facts I learned while writing this text) and am not involved in any way, shape, or form with anything related to this tea. (4) I very definitely do not know the thesis' author, her school, advisors, etc. This is the only source I have found that discusses the Moroccan tea habits in the glorious detail. Викидим ( talk) 23:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Honestly, I didn't check the author at first before undoing my edit, but George's book on the history of tea is well-researched and worth citing. I later found out he's a professor of Historical Linguistics, a field that intersects history and linguistics. MoroccanTeaEnjoyer ( talk) 01:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)