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"Magdalen College was founded 1458 in Oxford by William of Waynflete, Bishop of Winchester, originally as Magdalen. New educational ideas of the Renaissance era as well as new methods of teaching were tried out."
Was going to clean up the second sentence and a little research showd that not only was it poor grammar, but that it was lifted directly from the college's website.
My replacement sentence is far from satisfactory and the section far from complete. Perhaps someone who knows something about the college could help?
Also corrected the date per the college's website
Ben 22:00, 2005 Feb 25 (UTC)
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@ JCrue: Thanks for expanding the article. I have tried to clarify the references to Magdalen Hall in the St. Swithun's quad section in line with the reference to Magdalen College's website. [1] Let me know if you disagree with any of my changes. TSventon ( talk) 12:24, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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@ JCrue: I think it may be misleading to say the laboratory was "the first science laboratory to be administered by a college of the University and the only such building that survives", referenced to the college website. [1] This should probably be removed (or reworded) as the "Anatomy School" at Christ Church was built in 1777 and is now part of the SCR. [2] TSventon ( talk) 13:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
In the dictionaries and encyclopaedias of the 19th century, "laboratory" is almost universally equated with "chemical laboratory". This prevailing definition was only revised in 1898 when the expression was described as "generally" applying to a room "in which chemical, pharmaceutical, physical or technical work is performed"
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@ JCrue: This section is now longer than the equivalent sections in Jesus College, Oxford (good article) and Oriel College, Oxford (featured article). It might be worth creating something like List of Fellows of Magdalen College, Oxford if you have more content to add. TSventon ( talk) 15:10, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Zedembee: Hi, thanks for contributing to this article. You added a section on pronunciation as follows:
I removed the section you added on the pronunciation of Magdalen for a couple of reasons.
I agree it's relevant to include pronunciation guidance for "Magdalen", as it is not obvious from the spelling. Following the wikipedia manual of style for pronunciation, the pronunciation is given in IPA and respelling in the lede section.
In your edit summary reverting my changes, you said that you considered that "maudlin" the adjective was derived from "Magdalen" to be of linguistic interest. That may be of relevance to the article on Mary Magdalene—where it is mentioned, in connection to the depictions of Mary Magdalene in tears in art—but as "maudlin" isn't derived from "Magdalen College", the connection here is several times removed. That's why I don't think it is relevant on this page in particular (what I meant by "trivia[l]").
My justification for removing that section then was that the pertinent information regarding pronunciation is already covered per the MOS (in the lede), and the additional information (about words derived from Mary Magdalene) is not relevant to this college. Please let me know if you still disagree with this and your reasoning. Best wishes -- JCrue ( talk) 20:15, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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Also corrected the date per the college's website
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@ JCrue: Thanks for expanding the article. I have tried to clarify the references to Magdalen Hall in the St. Swithun's quad section in line with the reference to Magdalen College's website. [1] Let me know if you disagree with any of my changes. TSventon ( talk) 12:24, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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@ JCrue: I think it may be misleading to say the laboratory was "the first science laboratory to be administered by a college of the University and the only such building that survives", referenced to the college website. [1] This should probably be removed (or reworded) as the "Anatomy School" at Christ Church was built in 1777 and is now part of the SCR. [2] TSventon ( talk) 13:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
In the dictionaries and encyclopaedias of the 19th century, "laboratory" is almost universally equated with "chemical laboratory". This prevailing definition was only revised in 1898 when the expression was described as "generally" applying to a room "in which chemical, pharmaceutical, physical or technical work is performed"
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@ JCrue: This section is now longer than the equivalent sections in Jesus College, Oxford (good article) and Oriel College, Oxford (featured article). It might be worth creating something like List of Fellows of Magdalen College, Oxford if you have more content to add. TSventon ( talk) 15:10, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
@ Zedembee: Hi, thanks for contributing to this article. You added a section on pronunciation as follows:
I removed the section you added on the pronunciation of Magdalen for a couple of reasons.
I agree it's relevant to include pronunciation guidance for "Magdalen", as it is not obvious from the spelling. Following the wikipedia manual of style for pronunciation, the pronunciation is given in IPA and respelling in the lede section.
In your edit summary reverting my changes, you said that you considered that "maudlin" the adjective was derived from "Magdalen" to be of linguistic interest. That may be of relevance to the article on Mary Magdalene—where it is mentioned, in connection to the depictions of Mary Magdalene in tears in art—but as "maudlin" isn't derived from "Magdalen College", the connection here is several times removed. That's why I don't think it is relevant on this page in particular (what I meant by "trivia[l]").
My justification for removing that section then was that the pertinent information regarding pronunciation is already covered per the MOS (in the lede), and the additional information (about words derived from Mary Magdalene) is not relevant to this college. Please let me know if you still disagree with this and your reasoning. Best wishes -- JCrue ( talk) 20:15, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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