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* Origins Done Completed
* Army Done Completed
* Land Done Completed
* Agriculture and Irrigation - More research for the period 1911-1950 is required in order to verify if any points have been left out. Done Completed
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The Madras Presidency annexed the kingdom of Mysore in 1831 on allegations of maladministration and restored it to Chamaraja Wodeyar, the grandson and heir of the deposed Mummadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar in 1881.
I have completed the review and fixed things where i can. The only remaining issue is the inline citations for several sentences. I have marked them all with citation needed tags. All others have been addressed. Once the inline citations are added this article will meet GA standards.-- Sodabottle ( talk) 07:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this statement: "In 1858, under the terms of the Queen's Proclamation issued by Queen Victoria, the Madras Presidency, along with the rest of British India, came under the direct rule of the British crown.[28]" I looked up page 221 of that edition of that particular book cited, and page 221 begins the first page of a new chapter about the Crimean War. The only date listed on that page is "October 1853". Perhaps the author of that statement could cite the correct page. Adrienne ( talk) 12:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Keeping Review appears to be abbandonned by the nominator and everything appears to have been address or outside the scope of the criteria. AIRcorn (talk) 07:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
This article does not properly follow Parenthetical referencing i. e. last name of the author with the year of publication. Some of the citations use the name of the book "Provincial Geographies of India". I was quite new to Wikipedia when I nominated this article for GA and I did not know about the different referencing styles at that time. However, the article has been like that since then and no one has thought of cleaning it up. Nor do I have enough time to fix it. Hence I request that this article be de-listed.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 11:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
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Suggest additional missing pieces. Ssriram mt ( talk) 02:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
An unnecessary section on "Slavery" has been added to the article wholly based on a page or two from some stray source. Now I observe a clear violation of WP:UNDUE. I don't think there was any problem with the text of the article as such. I called for reassessment because of the lack of a standard referencing style. Now, the article appears to be in worser shape than it was previously. While I don't wish to close this reassessment on my own if the section remains there as such, I'd rather support delistment of the article.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 17:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
I think it is pretty much okay now. Anyway, I'll have a detailed look when I get time, maybe at the end of this week.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 15:07, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
As in the case of Kumbakonam, the citation style is still not uniform and needs to be fixed.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 03:36, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
This article uses far too many sources from the Raj period. They are generally unreliable (for example, for history) and in many cases they amount to primary sources because of their close ties to the Raj administration even when they were not official documents. Authors such as Edgar Thurston have been rejected time and again across a swathe of India-related articles and in some cases this has been confirmed at WP:RSN. For things such as the relative peace in the area in 1857, there really should be no need to use something published in 1859 and which, inevitably, was poor quality. Surely to goodness there has been something said of this in the last couple of decades or so? (I'll look for that one tomorrow). - Sitush ( talk) 02:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Another poor source is Read, Anthony (1997). The Proudest Day – India's Long Ride to Independence. London: Jonathan Cape. ISBN 0-393-31898-2. Again, the citation is wrong because Read was co-author with David Fisher. Worse, though, is that it is basically a work of popular history: Anthony Read is not an academic historian as such (screenwriter turned popular historian turned novelist) and his speciality has been World War II; Fisher is also primarily a screenwriter and his interests in history have been mainly in the sphere of ghostwriting sports biographies etc. It really does not seem good enough. - Sitush ( talk) 15:13, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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This confuses me a lot. Were the 3 presidencies of British India three seperate colonies within the British Empire from 1600s to 1857? Or were they a single colony? PadFoot2008 ( talk) 16:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
The article on Aaron Baker has him as 1st president of Madras, but he's not mentioned here. What's right? 5.83.11.38 ( talk) 00:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
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* Origins Done Completed
* Army Done Completed
* Land Done Completed
* Agriculture and Irrigation - More research for the period 1911-1950 is required in order to verify if any points have been left out. Done Completed
- Ravichandar My coffee shop 12:26, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
I propose that the following new sections be added at the end of the article:
* Cities Section omitted due to size constraints and lack of importance
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The Madras Presidency annexed the kingdom of Mysore in 1831 on allegations of maladministration and restored it to Chamaraja Wodeyar, the grandson and heir of the deposed Mummadi Krishnaraja Wodeyar in 1881.
I have completed the review and fixed things where i can. The only remaining issue is the inline citations for several sentences. I have marked them all with citation needed tags. All others have been addressed. Once the inline citations are added this article will meet GA standards.-- Sodabottle ( talk) 07:03, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Regarding this statement: "In 1858, under the terms of the Queen's Proclamation issued by Queen Victoria, the Madras Presidency, along with the rest of British India, came under the direct rule of the British crown.[28]" I looked up page 221 of that edition of that particular book cited, and page 221 begins the first page of a new chapter about the Crimean War. The only date listed on that page is "October 1853". Perhaps the author of that statement could cite the correct page. Adrienne ( talk) 12:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Keeping Review appears to be abbandonned by the nominator and everything appears to have been address or outside the scope of the criteria. AIRcorn (talk) 07:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
This article does not properly follow Parenthetical referencing i. e. last name of the author with the year of publication. Some of the citations use the name of the book "Provincial Geographies of India". I was quite new to Wikipedia when I nominated this article for GA and I did not know about the different referencing styles at that time. However, the article has been like that since then and no one has thought of cleaning it up. Nor do I have enough time to fix it. Hence I request that this article be de-listed.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 11:58, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Corrections
Suggest additional missing pieces. Ssriram mt ( talk) 02:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
An unnecessary section on "Slavery" has been added to the article wholly based on a page or two from some stray source. Now I observe a clear violation of WP:UNDUE. I don't think there was any problem with the text of the article as such. I called for reassessment because of the lack of a standard referencing style. Now, the article appears to be in worser shape than it was previously. While I don't wish to close this reassessment on my own if the section remains there as such, I'd rather support delistment of the article.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 17:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
I think it is pretty much okay now. Anyway, I'll have a detailed look when I get time, maybe at the end of this week.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 15:07, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
As in the case of Kumbakonam, the citation style is still not uniform and needs to be fixed.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 03:36, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
This article uses far too many sources from the Raj period. They are generally unreliable (for example, for history) and in many cases they amount to primary sources because of their close ties to the Raj administration even when they were not official documents. Authors such as Edgar Thurston have been rejected time and again across a swathe of India-related articles and in some cases this has been confirmed at WP:RSN. For things such as the relative peace in the area in 1857, there really should be no need to use something published in 1859 and which, inevitably, was poor quality. Surely to goodness there has been something said of this in the last couple of decades or so? (I'll look for that one tomorrow). - Sitush ( talk) 02:04, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Another poor source is Read, Anthony (1997). The Proudest Day – India's Long Ride to Independence. London: Jonathan Cape. ISBN 0-393-31898-2. Again, the citation is wrong because Read was co-author with David Fisher. Worse, though, is that it is basically a work of popular history: Anthony Read is not an academic historian as such (screenwriter turned popular historian turned novelist) and his speciality has been World War II; Fisher is also primarily a screenwriter and his interests in history have been mainly in the sphere of ghostwriting sports biographies etc. It really does not seem good enough. - Sitush ( talk) 15:13, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
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This confuses me a lot. Were the 3 presidencies of British India three seperate colonies within the British Empire from 1600s to 1857? Or were they a single colony? PadFoot2008 ( talk) 16:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
The article on Aaron Baker has him as 1st president of Madras, but he's not mentioned here. What's right? 5.83.11.38 ( talk) 00:52, 15 January 2023 (UTC)