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If no one cares, I'm going to split up each version of Mac OS X Server into each different parts.
Though I don't have server systems to test, nor the software. Anyone know of the major, and minor differences between the software?
The "Open Directory" link is re-directed to "Open Directory Project".
Contributions/67.188.42.104 ( talk) 21:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC) The section on Server 10.2 was overwritten with information about Server 10.3.
The following were pointed out as problems in this article earlier today (these aren't written by me, I might add):
" Prior to Mac OS X, Apple's AppleShare services provided server applications such as file and printer sharing and user management."
Incorrect. AppleShare was a product name. So correctly, it would be "Apple's AppleShare, and later AppleShareIP products..."
" An exception, however, are User services, which are based on the NetInfo feature of OPENSTEP."
...which *were* based primarily on the NetInfo directory service, another NeXT creation."
" User and file management are provided via Open Directory, an LDAP compatible server architecture."
Incorrect. Open Directory is an API and frameworks that creates an architecture via which various directory and directory - like services can plug into the OS. By itself, Open Directory doesn't do anything.
" Many common network services are provided such as NTP, SNMP, Web Server, Mail Server, LDAP, AppleTalk, Print Server."
No, it doesn't provide AppleTALK services, it provides AFP services. There is a rather large difference.
-- JohnDBuell 22:05, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Can you run it on an Intel Mac mini? On an iMac? How much processing power / ram / disk size & speed are needed to serve typical workgroups of various sizes?
Every one of these is a substub. I reckon we should merge the whole lot in here. Chris Cunningham 15:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Can someone cite sources coming from a site that is not owned by Apple Inc.?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiknerd ( talk • contribs) 22:48, 21 December 2007
Leopard server, 10.5, has three new install modes: Standard, Workgroup, Advanced. I'm going to add more information about these different install modes. I'll try to link to relevant sources discussing the new modes in greater detail. Ggamette ( talk) 17:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I've added mention of 10.6 to the list of versions. I think it could do with its own section like the others. Apple has details at http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/snowleopard/ - Anyone feel like wikifying some of that info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.132.203 ( talk) 13:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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This article could use some information beyond that found in the product brochure. For example, I was curious what kind of market share OS X has for servers. -- Beland ( talk) 01:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the licensing information should be rewritten to more closely resemble the Mac OS X (desktop) page. Currently it states that Mac OS X server's source module is "Open source (Darwin foundation is open source)". The Mac OS X page is more correct: "Closed source (with open source components)".
The same applies to the license, currently it states "Apple Public Source License / Apple EULA", but it would be more correct as: "Proprietary EULA" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.188.168 ( talk) 04:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned in the system requirements for Lion Server that the web browsers specified are only for Wiki Server? -- Kylalak ( talk) 18:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Now that the product is no longer sold separately, would it make sense to merge this article with OS X or keep it here for some sort of historical purpose? Lexlex ( talk) 19:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
The part of the lead about Lion Server ("As of version 10.7 (Lion) ... A separate "server" operating system is no longer sold.") seems to contradics what is in section Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) ("it would instead sell the server components as a US$49.99 add-on to Lion"). -- Mortense ( talk) 07:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
There's no "Lion Server" as a complete OS product, there's just Lion and a server add-on package. Is this any different from Mountain Lion? Guy Harris ( talk) 18:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/0/MA406/en_US/L355788A_LeopardSvr_PO.pdf. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Guy Harris ( talk) 16:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
The Unix family tree at Commons:File:Unix history-simple.svg suggests that the original Mac OS X Server combined NextStep and NetBSD code. Is that correct? I can't find it mentioned anywhere, except on the Simple English Wikipedia. QVVERTYVS ( hm?) 17:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
It would be useful to include the end-of-support dates for each version. For regular Mac OS X, I believe the usual support model is the current major version and 2 prior major versions. I expect the support model is similar for MacOS Server, but I'm not certain Cherdt ( talk) 17:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Mac OS X Server is the clear common name, see Google Ngram. All the huge 500-page manuals written about Mac OS X Server were written in that "Mac OS X"-era, pre-Lion (there wasn't much to write about, after Lion). I'm boldly moving the page. DFlhb ( talk) 13:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
I just removed the open-source components tables in this diff, due to finding no secondary sources. If you find any, feel free to bring them back, though please bring them back at the bottom of the article (in an "Open-source components" section"), and flip the tables, so the Mac OS X Server version numbers are on the left, and the components are on top. Such flipping is easy to do with LibreOffice. DFlhb ( talk) 14:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
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The contents of the Calendar and Contacts Server page were merged into Mac OS X Server. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected page, please see its history; for the discussion at that location, see its talk page. (February 5, 2023) |
If no one cares, I'm going to split up each version of Mac OS X Server into each different parts.
Though I don't have server systems to test, nor the software. Anyone know of the major, and minor differences between the software?
The "Open Directory" link is re-directed to "Open Directory Project".
Contributions/67.188.42.104 ( talk) 21:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC) The section on Server 10.2 was overwritten with information about Server 10.3.
The following were pointed out as problems in this article earlier today (these aren't written by me, I might add):
" Prior to Mac OS X, Apple's AppleShare services provided server applications such as file and printer sharing and user management."
Incorrect. AppleShare was a product name. So correctly, it would be "Apple's AppleShare, and later AppleShareIP products..."
" An exception, however, are User services, which are based on the NetInfo feature of OPENSTEP."
...which *were* based primarily on the NetInfo directory service, another NeXT creation."
" User and file management are provided via Open Directory, an LDAP compatible server architecture."
Incorrect. Open Directory is an API and frameworks that creates an architecture via which various directory and directory - like services can plug into the OS. By itself, Open Directory doesn't do anything.
" Many common network services are provided such as NTP, SNMP, Web Server, Mail Server, LDAP, AppleTalk, Print Server."
No, it doesn't provide AppleTALK services, it provides AFP services. There is a rather large difference.
-- JohnDBuell 22:05, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Can you run it on an Intel Mac mini? On an iMac? How much processing power / ram / disk size & speed are needed to serve typical workgroups of various sizes?
Every one of these is a substub. I reckon we should merge the whole lot in here. Chris Cunningham 15:33, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Can someone cite sources coming from a site that is not owned by Apple Inc.?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiknerd ( talk • contribs) 22:48, 21 December 2007
Leopard server, 10.5, has three new install modes: Standard, Workgroup, Advanced. I'm going to add more information about these different install modes. I'll try to link to relevant sources discussing the new modes in greater detail. Ggamette ( talk) 17:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I've added mention of 10.6 to the list of versions. I think it could do with its own section like the others. Apple has details at http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/snowleopard/ - Anyone feel like wikifying some of that info? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.132.203 ( talk) 13:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:OSXLeopard.png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --08:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
This article could use some information beyond that found in the product brochure. For example, I was curious what kind of market share OS X has for servers. -- Beland ( talk) 01:48, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
I think the licensing information should be rewritten to more closely resemble the Mac OS X (desktop) page. Currently it states that Mac OS X server's source module is "Open source (Darwin foundation is open source)". The Mac OS X page is more correct: "Closed source (with open source components)".
The same applies to the license, currently it states "Apple Public Source License / Apple EULA", but it would be more correct as: "Proprietary EULA" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.188.168 ( talk) 04:51, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Should it be mentioned in the system requirements for Lion Server that the web browsers specified are only for Wiki Server? -- Kylalak ( talk) 18:08, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
Now that the product is no longer sold separately, would it make sense to merge this article with OS X or keep it here for some sort of historical purpose? Lexlex ( talk) 19:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
The part of the lead about Lion Server ("As of version 10.7 (Lion) ... A separate "server" operating system is no longer sold.") seems to contradics what is in section Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion) ("it would instead sell the server components as a US$49.99 add-on to Lion"). -- Mortense ( talk) 07:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
There's no "Lion Server" as a complete OS product, there's just Lion and a server add-on package. Is this any different from Mountain Lion? Guy Harris ( talk) 18:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/0/MA406/en_US/L355788A_LeopardSvr_PO.pdf. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you. Guy Harris ( talk) 16:42, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
The Unix family tree at Commons:File:Unix history-simple.svg suggests that the original Mac OS X Server combined NextStep and NetBSD code. Is that correct? I can't find it mentioned anywhere, except on the Simple English Wikipedia. QVVERTYVS ( hm?) 17:07, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
It would be useful to include the end-of-support dates for each version. For regular Mac OS X, I believe the usual support model is the current major version and 2 prior major versions. I expect the support model is similar for MacOS Server, but I'm not certain Cherdt ( talk) 17:36, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Mac OS X Server is the clear common name, see Google Ngram. All the huge 500-page manuals written about Mac OS X Server were written in that "Mac OS X"-era, pre-Lion (there wasn't much to write about, after Lion). I'm boldly moving the page. DFlhb ( talk) 13:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
I just removed the open-source components tables in this diff, due to finding no secondary sources. If you find any, feel free to bring them back, though please bring them back at the bottom of the article (in an "Open-source components" section"), and flip the tables, so the Mac OS X Server version numbers are on the left, and the components are on top. Such flipping is easy to do with LibreOffice. DFlhb ( talk) 14:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)