"According to CBS," is appearing a few too many times in this article. -- theothermeat 22:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)I think I fixed this.
This is the same city as Ma'alot (Ma'alot is part of Ma'alot-Tarshiha), and has only 1 common article in the Hebrew version. -- Ynhockey 05:31, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Tarshiha was a Palestinian village long before Israel occupied it. Much of the village and surrounding land has since been either annexed or "appropriated" -- including previously cultivated areas outside Tarshiha proper and properties within the recognized limits of the original pre-1948 village. Many of the original inhabitants, who continue to take their grievances to court to prevent the Israeli government's appropriation of their property, would no doubt be offended by this attempt in Wikipedia to make the original Palestinian village "disappear" by renaming or recategorizing it. After all, Tarshiha existed as a village long before Israel declared itself a state in 1948; prior to that it was a Palestinian city under British Mandate.
Wikipedia is a wonderful resource and, as such, it should not be used to achieve political gains through such insidious practices. Please respect it. Any user who wishes to have more information or links to references here is welcome to request it, but the statement above is solely the belief of the author/user and does not violate any copyright. Rather it is intended to generate some useful discussion here. Fulani 11:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
All right you lot, I don't know what you think you're doing, but Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) is quite clear on this point. Weird Unicode characters are not allowed in article titles - that's why we have an article Kaaba and not Ka'aba. For a start, ḥ letter has NO place in the article title. I have moved the article to Maalot-Tarshikha for now. Enjoy. Izehar 10:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
PS don't move articles without fixing the double redirects. Izehar 10:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Look, leave a notice on WP:AN asking an administrator to move it; say that everyone agrees. Izehar 11:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, FYI Arabic ح "kha" and Hebrew ח "khet" are widely transliterated "kh" in order to avoid confusion with خ and ה. Izehar 11:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I've requested a formal move to Ma'alot-Tarshiha as per the guidelines at WP:RM. Please vote below, and then we can get an administrator to move the page. Izehar 11:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
This page should be moved to Ma'alot-Tarshiha because that is the name the city itself uses.
Support Ynhockey request to revert, however please see comment below Fulani 12:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Please! I don't know about Hebrew, but Arabic has three "H" sounds, at least from an English-speaker's standpoint, and is ح not "kha" 1 - ha [soft; equivalent to English "h"] 2 - ḥa [hard, like a hiss; fricative, in linguistic terminology] 3 - kha [hardest, like clearing one's throat to spit; also fricative]
Tarshiha is an Arabic name for a pre-1948 Palestinian village in al-Jalil (Galilee). This Arabic name uses the second fricative "h" listed above. Please respect the original language by using "h" not "kh" -- even if you don't recognize the origins of the now-occupied village. Fulani 12:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Just to clarify, the fact that the DFLP massacred those 21 students is uncontested. It happened. The fact tag is to prove they were killed in their sleep. I thought it was a hostage situation. Thanks for adding the source for the former though. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 20:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok, thanks. I clarified in the text. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 21:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
There is an irritating typo in the Frankel, 1988-article.
Cheers, Huldra ( talk) 21:59, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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This unsourced etymology is extremely unlikely, as the village name was always spelled with a tāʼ, and the word for mountain has a ṭāʾ, a different sound altogether.
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"According to CBS," is appearing a few too many times in this article. -- theothermeat 22:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)I think I fixed this.
This is the same city as Ma'alot (Ma'alot is part of Ma'alot-Tarshiha), and has only 1 common article in the Hebrew version. -- Ynhockey 05:31, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
Tarshiha was a Palestinian village long before Israel occupied it. Much of the village and surrounding land has since been either annexed or "appropriated" -- including previously cultivated areas outside Tarshiha proper and properties within the recognized limits of the original pre-1948 village. Many of the original inhabitants, who continue to take their grievances to court to prevent the Israeli government's appropriation of their property, would no doubt be offended by this attempt in Wikipedia to make the original Palestinian village "disappear" by renaming or recategorizing it. After all, Tarshiha existed as a village long before Israel declared itself a state in 1948; prior to that it was a Palestinian city under British Mandate.
Wikipedia is a wonderful resource and, as such, it should not be used to achieve political gains through such insidious practices. Please respect it. Any user who wishes to have more information or links to references here is welcome to request it, but the statement above is solely the belief of the author/user and does not violate any copyright. Rather it is intended to generate some useful discussion here. Fulani 11:28, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
All right you lot, I don't know what you think you're doing, but Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) is quite clear on this point. Weird Unicode characters are not allowed in article titles - that's why we have an article Kaaba and not Ka'aba. For a start, ḥ letter has NO place in the article title. I have moved the article to Maalot-Tarshikha for now. Enjoy. Izehar 10:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
PS don't move articles without fixing the double redirects. Izehar 10:46, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Look, leave a notice on WP:AN asking an administrator to move it; say that everyone agrees. Izehar 11:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Also, FYI Arabic ح "kha" and Hebrew ח "khet" are widely transliterated "kh" in order to avoid confusion with خ and ה. Izehar 11:49, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I've requested a formal move to Ma'alot-Tarshiha as per the guidelines at WP:RM. Please vote below, and then we can get an administrator to move the page. Izehar 11:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
This page should be moved to Ma'alot-Tarshiha because that is the name the city itself uses.
Support Ynhockey request to revert, however please see comment below Fulani 12:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Please! I don't know about Hebrew, but Arabic has three "H" sounds, at least from an English-speaker's standpoint, and is ح not "kha" 1 - ha [soft; equivalent to English "h"] 2 - ḥa [hard, like a hiss; fricative, in linguistic terminology] 3 - kha [hardest, like clearing one's throat to spit; also fricative]
Tarshiha is an Arabic name for a pre-1948 Palestinian village in al-Jalil (Galilee). This Arabic name uses the second fricative "h" listed above. Please respect the original language by using "h" not "kh" -- even if you don't recognize the origins of the now-occupied village. Fulani 12:18, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Just to clarify, the fact that the DFLP massacred those 21 students is uncontested. It happened. The fact tag is to prove they were killed in their sleep. I thought it was a hostage situation. Thanks for adding the source for the former though. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 20:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh ok, thanks. I clarified in the text. -- Al Ameer son ( talk) 21:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
There is an irritating typo in the Frankel, 1988-article.
Cheers, Huldra ( talk) 21:59, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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This unsourced etymology is extremely unlikely, as the village name was always spelled with a tāʼ, and the word for mountain has a ṭāʾ, a different sound altogether.
If it's described as a popular etymology, then being extremely unlikely is no obstacle for it to be popular; but it needs to be sourced anyway. Crash48 ( talk) 07:37, 1 January 2023 (UTC)