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I consider that calling Lysander Spooner a Socialist thinker is alright from the sense that it exposes that view, but I don't think it should be part of the Socialist category. First off, there is no actual source of Lysander Spooner ever calling himself a "Socialist" or a "Mutualist", and the claim of him being part of the First International is dubious at most, the only source being a book written in the 60s by George Woodbook with no citations; and second off, calling Lysander Spooner a Socialist contradicts the very definition of Socialism exposed in its respective page, the only thing that could make Lysander Spooner a Socialist is his criticism of wage labor, which he didn't oppose from a legal standpoint. Unless Lysander Spooner is the first ever Socialist to be pro-usury [1], pro-market, pro-interest, & pro-rent, [2] then either the the category of Libertarian Socialism should be removed, or the meaning of Socialism should be changed to the point of no resemblance to the conventional meaning. -- Coindorni ( talk) 15:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
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«The works of the 'individual anarchists' or 'anarcho-capitalists' (Josiah Warren, Stephen Pearl Andrews, Lysander Spooner, William Batchelder Greene, Henry David Thoreau) are of relevance...»
König, Mathias Hagen (September 17, 2014). The Sovereign Outsider: 19th Century American Literature, (Non-)Discursive Formation and Postanarchist Politics. Tectum Wissenschaftsverlag. p. 26. ISBN 978-3-8288-6101-5.
This information is blatantly incorrect and in strong contradiction with most sources. Henry David Thoreau? Josiah Warren? William Batchelder Green? Stephen Pearl Andrews? None of these authors is in fact an "anarcho-capitalist".
93.45.229.98 ( talk) 11:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Can someone explain the factual accuracy tag added to the top of the article? The tag should contain claims about inaccurate information or sources, or there should be an open talk page discussion about the alleged inaccuracies. DenverCoder19 ( talk) 04:52, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
If this does not mean that competition lasted until circa 1960, a comma is needed after provided.
Is it not known more precisely when the price of a stamp was raised from 3¢? —Tamfang ( talk) 01:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
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A fact from this article was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the On this day section on May 14, 2021. |
I consider that calling Lysander Spooner a Socialist thinker is alright from the sense that it exposes that view, but I don't think it should be part of the Socialist category. First off, there is no actual source of Lysander Spooner ever calling himself a "Socialist" or a "Mutualist", and the claim of him being part of the First International is dubious at most, the only source being a book written in the 60s by George Woodbook with no citations; and second off, calling Lysander Spooner a Socialist contradicts the very definition of Socialism exposed in its respective page, the only thing that could make Lysander Spooner a Socialist is his criticism of wage labor, which he didn't oppose from a legal standpoint. Unless Lysander Spooner is the first ever Socialist to be pro-usury [1], pro-market, pro-interest, & pro-rent, [2] then either the the category of Libertarian Socialism should be removed, or the meaning of Socialism should be changed to the point of no resemblance to the conventional meaning. -- Coindorni ( talk) 15:30, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
References
«The works of the 'individual anarchists' or 'anarcho-capitalists' (Josiah Warren, Stephen Pearl Andrews, Lysander Spooner, William Batchelder Greene, Henry David Thoreau) are of relevance...»
König, Mathias Hagen (September 17, 2014). The Sovereign Outsider: 19th Century American Literature, (Non-)Discursive Formation and Postanarchist Politics. Tectum Wissenschaftsverlag. p. 26. ISBN 978-3-8288-6101-5.
This information is blatantly incorrect and in strong contradiction with most sources. Henry David Thoreau? Josiah Warren? William Batchelder Green? Stephen Pearl Andrews? None of these authors is in fact an "anarcho-capitalist".
93.45.229.98 ( talk) 11:52, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Can someone explain the factual accuracy tag added to the top of the article? The tag should contain claims about inaccurate information or sources, or there should be an open talk page discussion about the alleged inaccuracies. DenverCoder19 ( talk) 04:52, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
If this does not mean that competition lasted until circa 1960, a comma is needed after provided.
Is it not known more precisely when the price of a stamp was raised from 3¢? —Tamfang ( talk) 01:10, 3 January 2024 (UTC)