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Talk:Lynne Stewart/Archive 1 Talk:Lynne Stewart/Archive 2
I'm reverting an edit removing the word "alleged". No source states that Stewart has been convicted of this offense or that she did in fact commit it, merely that it is claimed by prosecutors and accepted by an appeals judge. To see how bizarre an accusation it is, think how many of those convicted (even of minor offenses) could be held guilty of perjury, simply on the basis that their version of events was found false beyond a reasonable doubt. Perjury laws are never used in this way. We should not simply repeat the escalating grandiose claims of a show trial whatever country it happens to take place in. -- Simon Speed ( talk) 22:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Once again this has been changed. The source specifically does not say she committed perjury but that the judge said she did. There has been no perjury conviction, trial or even charge. The whole article now looks like a hatchet job again and there's a load of apparently sourced material used, in some cases, to say the opposite of what is sourced. Take the apparently referenced sentence now in the lede Stewart is a self described "movement lawyer" who doesnt just defend the legal rights of her clients, she also advocates their politics. Clearly implying Stewart's support for the Islamic terrorist but the first source says "I began my career as a political movement lawyer. The government was rounding up the last of the diehard militants, many of whom had been underground, and prosecuting them as a part of the Panther movement." (i.e. she was a civil rights lawyer) The second source does say she's a "movement lawyer" but also that the Sheik "was a religious fascist who opposed everything that the feminist, atheist and vaguely revolutionary Marxist Stewart stood for." Selective quoting out of context to say the opposite of the sourced material is not referencing. There's more of this stuff and I don't see I can do anything but revert the whole block of User:ZHurlihee's editing. -- Simon Speed ( talk) 00:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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Talk:Lynne Stewart/Archive 1 Talk:Lynne Stewart/Archive 2
I'm reverting an edit removing the word "alleged". No source states that Stewart has been convicted of this offense or that she did in fact commit it, merely that it is claimed by prosecutors and accepted by an appeals judge. To see how bizarre an accusation it is, think how many of those convicted (even of minor offenses) could be held guilty of perjury, simply on the basis that their version of events was found false beyond a reasonable doubt. Perjury laws are never used in this way. We should not simply repeat the escalating grandiose claims of a show trial whatever country it happens to take place in. -- Simon Speed ( talk) 22:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Once again this has been changed. The source specifically does not say she committed perjury but that the judge said she did. There has been no perjury conviction, trial or even charge. The whole article now looks like a hatchet job again and there's a load of apparently sourced material used, in some cases, to say the opposite of what is sourced. Take the apparently referenced sentence now in the lede Stewart is a self described "movement lawyer" who doesnt just defend the legal rights of her clients, she also advocates their politics. Clearly implying Stewart's support for the Islamic terrorist but the first source says "I began my career as a political movement lawyer. The government was rounding up the last of the diehard militants, many of whom had been underground, and prosecuting them as a part of the Panther movement." (i.e. she was a civil rights lawyer) The second source does say she's a "movement lawyer" but also that the Sheik "was a religious fascist who opposed everything that the feminist, atheist and vaguely revolutionary Marxist Stewart stood for." Selective quoting out of context to say the opposite of the sourced material is not referencing. There's more of this stuff and I don't see I can do anything but revert the whole block of User:ZHurlihee's editing. -- Simon Speed ( talk) 00:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
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