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The original version of this article had used the capitalized "Black" per /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Peoples_and_their_languages ... given that that's how the article started, I would vote that it return to that usage. -- Jaireeodell ( talk) 02:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
I would also like to revert to Black instead of black. Although this style choice emerged recently, there is a good bit of support for this practice from major editorial presses: https://www.cjr.org/analysis/capital-b-black-styleguide.php; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/time-to-capitalize-blackand-white/613159/; https://apnews.com/article/archive-race-and-ethnicity-9105661462. HISTAM ( talk) 10:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)HISTAM
This is from the Columbia Journalism Review position I linked to above, and this is what I would like to follow for this article: "At the Columbia Journalism Review, we capitalize Black, and not white, when referring to groups in racial, ethnic, or cultural terms. For many people, Black reflects a shared sense of identity and community. White carries a different set of meanings; capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists." Would you be ok with following this for this article? I don't see any harm in capitalizing Black and not capitalizing white, and it follows the important lead of what people who are Black would like to see happen and doesn't follow the lead of white supremacists who would like to see white capitalized. 174.202.34.239 ( talk) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (UTC)HISTAM
Why are there two pictures of the same historical marker? It seems like gilding the lily. -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 15:38, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Dwkaminski thanks for mentioning MOS:LEAD in your restoration of the "gruesome" details of the lynching. As I see it, the "controversy" in this article are the facts that Ward was lynched, that those who did this were not charged, and that he was not memorialized for a long time. How he was lynched is not a controversy or even the main point of the article. Those details might attract some readers to learn more, but they're a distraction from main focus of the article in the lead. I'd support removing them. -- Jaireeodell ( talk) 16:00, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
This book does not cite its sources. The review of this book that appeared in Fall 2011 in Ohio Valley History (pages 95-96) states that “However, [the author’s] rose-colored vision of the past and lack of source citations will make it difficult for readers to separate fact from fiction as he draws heavily from the murky waters of memory and speculation.” I would like to propose that we remove references from this book from this page because of its lack of reliability. HISTAM ( talk) 23:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)HISTAM
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@ Dwkaminski: Thanks! Your edits help.
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The original version of this article had used the capitalized "Black" per /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Capital_letters#Peoples_and_their_languages ... given that that's how the article started, I would vote that it return to that usage. -- Jaireeodell ( talk) 02:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
I would also like to revert to Black instead of black. Although this style choice emerged recently, there is a good bit of support for this practice from major editorial presses: https://www.cjr.org/analysis/capital-b-black-styleguide.php; https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/06/time-to-capitalize-blackand-white/613159/; https://apnews.com/article/archive-race-and-ethnicity-9105661462. HISTAM ( talk) 10:01, 22 April 2022 (UTC)HISTAM
This is from the Columbia Journalism Review position I linked to above, and this is what I would like to follow for this article: "At the Columbia Journalism Review, we capitalize Black, and not white, when referring to groups in racial, ethnic, or cultural terms. For many people, Black reflects a shared sense of identity and community. White carries a different set of meanings; capitalizing the word in this context risks following the lead of white supremacists." Would you be ok with following this for this article? I don't see any harm in capitalizing Black and not capitalizing white, and it follows the important lead of what people who are Black would like to see happen and doesn't follow the lead of white supremacists who would like to see white capitalized. 174.202.34.239 ( talk) 13:41, 22 April 2022 (UTC)HISTAM
Why are there two pictures of the same historical marker? It seems like gilding the lily. -- Piledhigheranddeeper ( talk) 15:38, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Hi @ Dwkaminski thanks for mentioning MOS:LEAD in your restoration of the "gruesome" details of the lynching. As I see it, the "controversy" in this article are the facts that Ward was lynched, that those who did this were not charged, and that he was not memorialized for a long time. How he was lynched is not a controversy or even the main point of the article. Those details might attract some readers to learn more, but they're a distraction from main focus of the article in the lead. I'd support removing them. -- Jaireeodell ( talk) 16:00, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
This book does not cite its sources. The review of this book that appeared in Fall 2011 in Ohio Valley History (pages 95-96) states that “However, [the author’s] rose-colored vision of the past and lack of source citations will make it difficult for readers to separate fact from fiction as he draws heavily from the murky waters of memory and speculation.” I would like to propose that we remove references from this book from this page because of its lack of reliability. HISTAM ( talk) 23:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)HISTAM