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Reading a rather in depth explanation about Minos (that even digresses to Incas) in the summary of the article about Lycurgus throws the article out of sync. If all that information is relevant in an article about Lycurgus (at all), a nice little footnote would do, to inform those interested. Now it almost seems like an advertisement about Minos' great achievements. The place for that is not the summary of the article of Lycurgus. I vote for removal. TessT ( talk) 09:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
When was the town or city state of Sparta founded?
This page needs to cite sources. I'd re-edit, but i haven't time
Was first to make crepes? I'd like to see the citation for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.170.213.62 ( talk) 15:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
This whole section has gone without sourcing, and it's quite obvious it is a whole personal opinion. The majority of what's being said in this section is still being debated amongst historians, and the author of this is speaking as if it were definite fact. It needs some SERIOUS editing. -Jezzk ( talk) 10:16, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Certain conservative 19th century writers, such as Jean-Joseph Gaume, have claimed that Lycurgus exercized an influence on modern political philosophy, his legacy being later revived by Enlightenment authors such as Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Voltaire. It would be a good idea if anybody could verify such claims, since they seem to imply that comparatively new ideologies, such as socialism and communism, actually have ancient Greek roots. ADM ( talk) 11:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Nothing about Lycurgus giving the spartans their iron money? 24.36.78.185 ( talk) 03:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
24.17.14.132 ( talk) 09:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
This article should be edited from the floor up or deleted. The article is substantially unsourced (as other contributors to this page have pointed out) and is little more than a medley of legends and folk-tales surrounding Lycurgus, some of which have their origins well outside of the temporal or cultural context of the classical world. There is obviously a place for 'according to speculation in the 19th century' type information within such an article, but such information has to be acknowledged as being ahistorical rather than presented as fact. My view is that allowing this article to remain intact detracts from the integrity of Wikipedia. It's tantamount to presenting 16th century ballads about Robin Hood as verified biographical fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.92.181 ( talk) 19:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
--- "Lykos" is from IE *wlkwos, which means wolf. Wolves are not named for their 'lucid eyes,' therefore the final sentence in the 'Legends' section should be deleted."
But deleted for what reason? Is it because the author does not believe that Wolves have "Lucid Eyes?"
That has to be it unless the author of the above can or will dispute it!
But, perhaps the above mentioned author should have looked at a definition of "lucid" in a dictionary?
And, perhaps in the first two definitions found here; http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lucid, and perhaps the first two definitions do not seem correct, but I would suggest that you look at definition number 3. Meaning in essence "Translucent or transparent. See Synonyms at clear.", then one could well see some relationship to the eyes of some wolves! Actually, today, it is known that many wolves have what appear to us to be "blue" eyes, and it is further known today that "blue eyes" are in essence "clear!" It is only by refraction that we see them as "blue!"
Perhaps some of you might well want to also refer to the Synonyms of "translucent or transplarent at clear!" Perhaps with this background my post may well become "clear" to all?
Regards,
Ronald L. Hughes 96.19.147.40 ( talk) 00:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I had to read this article twice to find the one fact I came looking for: the dates of Lycurgus' life. When I did find this information -- the first half of the 8th century -- it is tagged as being unsourced. Sigh. I examined my copy of the Oxford Classical Dictionary & found there are two possible dates (both based on early traditions): Herodotus states Lycurgus was the guardian of the Agiad king Leobotes (fl. 900 BC), while later writers associate him with the Eurypontid Charillos (c. 775 BC). If I find no one else updates this article, based on these leads, I guess I'll have to do it in my own Copious Spare Time. -- llywrch ( talk) 06:34, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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Is this Lycurgus the primary topic for the name? I would think so. It seems rather evident from the page view statistics. Ifly6 ( talk) 13:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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Reading a rather in depth explanation about Minos (that even digresses to Incas) in the summary of the article about Lycurgus throws the article out of sync. If all that information is relevant in an article about Lycurgus (at all), a nice little footnote would do, to inform those interested. Now it almost seems like an advertisement about Minos' great achievements. The place for that is not the summary of the article of Lycurgus. I vote for removal. TessT ( talk) 09:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
When was the town or city state of Sparta founded?
This page needs to cite sources. I'd re-edit, but i haven't time
Was first to make crepes? I'd like to see the citation for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.170.213.62 ( talk) 15:29, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
This whole section has gone without sourcing, and it's quite obvious it is a whole personal opinion. The majority of what's being said in this section is still being debated amongst historians, and the author of this is speaking as if it were definite fact. It needs some SERIOUS editing. -Jezzk ( talk) 10:16, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Certain conservative 19th century writers, such as Jean-Joseph Gaume, have claimed that Lycurgus exercized an influence on modern political philosophy, his legacy being later revived by Enlightenment authors such as Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Voltaire. It would be a good idea if anybody could verify such claims, since they seem to imply that comparatively new ideologies, such as socialism and communism, actually have ancient Greek roots. ADM ( talk) 11:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Nothing about Lycurgus giving the spartans their iron money? 24.36.78.185 ( talk) 03:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
24.17.14.132 ( talk) 09:37, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
This article should be edited from the floor up or deleted. The article is substantially unsourced (as other contributors to this page have pointed out) and is little more than a medley of legends and folk-tales surrounding Lycurgus, some of which have their origins well outside of the temporal or cultural context of the classical world. There is obviously a place for 'according to speculation in the 19th century' type information within such an article, but such information has to be acknowledged as being ahistorical rather than presented as fact. My view is that allowing this article to remain intact detracts from the integrity of Wikipedia. It's tantamount to presenting 16th century ballads about Robin Hood as verified biographical fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.168.92.181 ( talk) 19:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
--- "Lykos" is from IE *wlkwos, which means wolf. Wolves are not named for their 'lucid eyes,' therefore the final sentence in the 'Legends' section should be deleted."
But deleted for what reason? Is it because the author does not believe that Wolves have "Lucid Eyes?"
That has to be it unless the author of the above can or will dispute it!
But, perhaps the above mentioned author should have looked at a definition of "lucid" in a dictionary?
And, perhaps in the first two definitions found here; http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lucid, and perhaps the first two definitions do not seem correct, but I would suggest that you look at definition number 3. Meaning in essence "Translucent or transparent. See Synonyms at clear.", then one could well see some relationship to the eyes of some wolves! Actually, today, it is known that many wolves have what appear to us to be "blue" eyes, and it is further known today that "blue eyes" are in essence "clear!" It is only by refraction that we see them as "blue!"
Perhaps some of you might well want to also refer to the Synonyms of "translucent or transplarent at clear!" Perhaps with this background my post may well become "clear" to all?
Regards,
Ronald L. Hughes 96.19.147.40 ( talk) 00:34, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
I had to read this article twice to find the one fact I came looking for: the dates of Lycurgus' life. When I did find this information -- the first half of the 8th century -- it is tagged as being unsourced. Sigh. I examined my copy of the Oxford Classical Dictionary & found there are two possible dates (both based on early traditions): Herodotus states Lycurgus was the guardian of the Agiad king Leobotes (fl. 900 BC), while later writers associate him with the Eurypontid Charillos (c. 775 BC). If I find no one else updates this article, based on these leads, I guess I'll have to do it in my own Copious Spare Time. -- llywrch ( talk) 06:34, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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Is this Lycurgus the primary topic for the name? I would think so. It seems rather evident from the page view statistics. Ifly6 ( talk) 13:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)