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Wot no artificial pitch?
Eric Morecambe was a fan. God bless 'im.-- Crestville 20:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
But Ernie was more Wise....bada bing bada boom :-)
Could somebody who knows about the team make a squad template? Guidelines can be found here SenorKristobbal 09:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
This page has been vandalised a lot lately. Keep an eye out, as I have already reverted three times. -- Gray Porpoise 18:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Will the person with ip 81.107.127.33 stop deleteing my entry (hatters-forum) from the external links section . And why are you removing it ? 21-8-6
Theres plenty of information on the site as well , If you are going to remove my link i think you should be removeing other links that are just to forums as well .
I have also checked several other football clubs an they have external links to fans forums , so why are they ok an mine is not ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatters-forum ( talk • contribs)
In the article Luton are claimed as beig a bigger club than Watford. I find this claim very hard to understand. Watford have in recent years been consistently in an equal or higher league. Have had premiership places more recently (06-07 season). and have a larger ground and average attendence. It seems a remarkable claim to suggest Luton is a bigger club and really needs some serious citations to back this up.-- GazMan7 14:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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I will continue to revert this section to the original version. Factual accuracy should trump the notion of finding a "compromise".
There were not 10,000 Millwall fans at the match. One wonders where home supporters would have found room to stand. Kenilworth Road was not, and is not, the San Siro.
There were not two pitch invasions. There were numerous pitch incursions, but only one "famous" one which was repeated incessantly on the TV news. Since this section of the article discusses the fall-out of those pictures in government and FA circles, referring to "a pitch invasion" is accurate.
Wikipedia is not a good place for ageing hooligans to boast about their past exploits. This is the essence of 'Arry's edit, and that is why it should be reverted.
Membership of the "Bushwhackers" at its peak was only a hundred or so. One of the first things one notices in the pictures I mention is that there are rather more than 100 people on the pitch. Apparently there were 10,000 in the stands, too. The possible involvement of the "Bushwhackers" group do not pass the notability test. Police intelligence was not what it is now. No reliable documents have ever been released to the public that identifies who started or participated in the trouble.
Editors who would like to contribute to this section might perhaps ask themselves what qualifies them to do it. Have they read the police and media reports from the time? Are they supporters of one of the teams, or is their knowledge based on anecdote? Were they even at the game? -- Lingvo9 ( talk) 23:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Just to add to the above, the sopurced content which I added is written by an established and very experienced sports journalist with the Daily Telegraph who also writes regular articles about football in England for the Japan Times. With respect, that is hardly "less reliable", in fact I would argue the opposite that it is perfectly reliable; especially when the article is very specific in detail. It isn't in any way whatsoever "hearsay" or "anecodote". It is content added with a perfectly reliable source. The Daily Telegraph, the Japan Times and the BBC are all equally reliable sources. And the BBC article used as a source simply doesn't mention about followers of other London clubs being there that day. It does not however state anything to say that did not happen, it is merely focussing on the Millwall element. I in no way condone what happened that day, it was not a very good day for English football and for Millwall FC. ♦Tangerines♦· Talk 19:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It was indeed a sad night for Millwall supporters who were solely blamed by the BBC and still are. They have had since 1985 to amend their articles, but have choosen not to. They know only too well that so called "supporters" of MFC were not the only people involved. I'm just grateful for reponsible journalists such as Christopher Davies who know the truth, and are prepared to put it into print. Personally, I found and still find, the BBC's biased reporting, completely reprehensible. 'Arry Boy ( talk) 17:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe that this page is in need to a serious cleanup because it is full of uncited claims, opinion and is not written in a consistent prose. UKWikiGuy ( talk) 19:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The statement that "genuine" Luton fans don't support the MK Dons presence in the city is clearly a matter of opinion. May I suggest "genuine" is replaced with the word many or most? Paulwmk 14:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Because everyone hates MK DONS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.107.202 ( talk) 21:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Useless info surely. Haven't seen any other club pages listing this info. Is it really important to the history of the club? Paulwmk 15:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps time for a seperate Club History page? Cliftonian ( talk) 12:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
"Due to financial irregularites, Luton were docked 10 points for the 2008-09 season - and then 20 points by the Football League for exiting administration with without a CVA."
What is a "CVA"? The acronym is not explained anywhere in the article. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I've started this list off, in order to get into this list a player must have:
feel free to add to it.
cheers - Cliftonian ( talk) 13:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I have looked at the images in the article and has remove some that violates WP:NFCC. Some more comments.
Rettetast ( talk) 13:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I have asked my old chum Dweller to cast his eye over the article. A fresh set of eyes is always a good thing in preparation for FAC. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 10:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'll list them here:
The logo image for this club has been reverted back to SVG as per discussion at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#File:Man Utd FC .svg Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 05:06, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Why is Kevin Blackwell not included in the table of former Luton managers? He wasn't that bad!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.138.18 ( talk) 11:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
This change was apparently made due to the FAC, which is here. I see nothing in there which would necessitate the use of a key which is pointless to users of graphical web browsers and entirely useless to the visually impaired in there. Perhaps someone could enlighten me, as this definitely isn't a common feature of FA-class football club articles. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I know that you're only trying to be helpful and to contribute, and I commend you for that; however, you can't just get rid of parts of the article that were necessary for it to get promoted. And before you say, it's not a personal thing. I'm merely defending the opinions of the users who helped this article to FA.
Cheers, – Cliftonian the orangey bit 11:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I have added a spoken version of this article; see the link above and under "External Links" in the article itself. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 22:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Add alt text per WP:ALT, see the current alt text here. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 21:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This page seems to have been vandalised. It says Peterborough united reserves.
The Luton News is reporting that Charles and Beavan have both been released. Is The Luton News a reliable and official enough source, or should we wait for official confirmation from the club? For the record, the article isn't online, it's in the paper only. Haruman215 ( talk) 12:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I edited the club colours but I see the changes have been reversed. Our current home shirt is the same colour as Blackpool's shirt last season (it's their previous Cabrini kit); it's not dark orange, more tangerine. We wear white socks with orange tops at home as first choice too, just like we did last night in the home game against kettering. Our away kit has orange socks, not white (in fact those previously depicted are the home socks - the orange top is the correct shade for the current home shirt). I have amended the colours again - could we keep these colours unless and until the club changes them, please? Cheers, Stevo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.195.84.178 ( talk) 08:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
ksmkldmkladsad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.9.156.220 ( talk) 05:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I do feel John Moore is well worth a mention, he may not have been in charge for 50 games, but, 7th in the First Division was & is the highest position ever achieved. Also he was a great player & later coach for Luton Town. So please give him credit if only in the text. 82.19.10.4 ( talk) 14:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Lutonoldboy 17-12-2013
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Hello Hatters!
Lately I've been working on Wikimedia Commons, on organising Luton and LTFC related media.
Firstly, all the kit elements/templates which are specific to Luton now have their own subcategory: Category:Luton Town FC kits. Rather than the generic categories, this helps organise and keep track of the files we have. If there's any images that still need moving to that category (I've probably missed some), please add them or let me know.
Also, I made this page: Luton Town FC kits. This goes in the aforementioned category and is to detail the history of how the kits have evolved over the years, as has also been done for other teams. I've started it off by giving a rough summary, but it would be nice to build it into a central, detailed history of the team's kit. It could be linked with the Wikipedia article, like other teams' articles do, for example at Arsenal F.C.#Colours. If you'd like to add to the page, create some historical kit images, or even just share some useful references, that would be great.
Thanks!
odg ( talk) 16:59, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
In the honours section, it mentions: "Luton Town's major honours are detailed below; non-League achievements are omitted."
This means that the 2013–14 Conference Premier title isn't included. What was the justification behind this? It seems odd to exclude a league title won by the first-team. All the best Michaeldble ( talk) 14:39, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
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Wot no artificial pitch?
Eric Morecambe was a fan. God bless 'im.-- Crestville 20:06, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
But Ernie was more Wise....bada bing bada boom :-)
Could somebody who knows about the team make a squad template? Guidelines can be found here SenorKristobbal 09:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
This page has been vandalised a lot lately. Keep an eye out, as I have already reverted three times. -- Gray Porpoise 18:06, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Will the person with ip 81.107.127.33 stop deleteing my entry (hatters-forum) from the external links section . And why are you removing it ? 21-8-6
Theres plenty of information on the site as well , If you are going to remove my link i think you should be removeing other links that are just to forums as well .
I have also checked several other football clubs an they have external links to fans forums , so why are they ok an mine is not ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatters-forum ( talk • contribs)
In the article Luton are claimed as beig a bigger club than Watford. I find this claim very hard to understand. Watford have in recent years been consistently in an equal or higher league. Have had premiership places more recently (06-07 season). and have a larger ground and average attendence. It seems a remarkable claim to suggest Luton is a bigger club and really needs some serious citations to back this up.-- GazMan7 14:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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I will continue to revert this section to the original version. Factual accuracy should trump the notion of finding a "compromise".
There were not 10,000 Millwall fans at the match. One wonders where home supporters would have found room to stand. Kenilworth Road was not, and is not, the San Siro.
There were not two pitch invasions. There were numerous pitch incursions, but only one "famous" one which was repeated incessantly on the TV news. Since this section of the article discusses the fall-out of those pictures in government and FA circles, referring to "a pitch invasion" is accurate.
Wikipedia is not a good place for ageing hooligans to boast about their past exploits. This is the essence of 'Arry's edit, and that is why it should be reverted.
Membership of the "Bushwhackers" at its peak was only a hundred or so. One of the first things one notices in the pictures I mention is that there are rather more than 100 people on the pitch. Apparently there were 10,000 in the stands, too. The possible involvement of the "Bushwhackers" group do not pass the notability test. Police intelligence was not what it is now. No reliable documents have ever been released to the public that identifies who started or participated in the trouble.
Editors who would like to contribute to this section might perhaps ask themselves what qualifies them to do it. Have they read the police and media reports from the time? Are they supporters of one of the teams, or is their knowledge based on anecdote? Were they even at the game? -- Lingvo9 ( talk) 23:42, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Just to add to the above, the sopurced content which I added is written by an established and very experienced sports journalist with the Daily Telegraph who also writes regular articles about football in England for the Japan Times. With respect, that is hardly "less reliable", in fact I would argue the opposite that it is perfectly reliable; especially when the article is very specific in detail. It isn't in any way whatsoever "hearsay" or "anecodote". It is content added with a perfectly reliable source. The Daily Telegraph, the Japan Times and the BBC are all equally reliable sources. And the BBC article used as a source simply doesn't mention about followers of other London clubs being there that day. It does not however state anything to say that did not happen, it is merely focussing on the Millwall element. I in no way condone what happened that day, it was not a very good day for English football and for Millwall FC. ♦Tangerines♦· Talk 19:52, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It was indeed a sad night for Millwall supporters who were solely blamed by the BBC and still are. They have had since 1985 to amend their articles, but have choosen not to. They know only too well that so called "supporters" of MFC were not the only people involved. I'm just grateful for reponsible journalists such as Christopher Davies who know the truth, and are prepared to put it into print. Personally, I found and still find, the BBC's biased reporting, completely reprehensible. 'Arry Boy ( talk) 17:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I believe that this page is in need to a serious cleanup because it is full of uncited claims, opinion and is not written in a consistent prose. UKWikiGuy ( talk) 19:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
The statement that "genuine" Luton fans don't support the MK Dons presence in the city is clearly a matter of opinion. May I suggest "genuine" is replaced with the word many or most? Paulwmk 14:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Because everyone hates MK DONS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.107.202 ( talk) 21:11, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Useless info surely. Haven't seen any other club pages listing this info. Is it really important to the history of the club? Paulwmk 15:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps time for a seperate Club History page? Cliftonian ( talk) 12:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
"Due to financial irregularites, Luton were docked 10 points for the 2008-09 season - and then 20 points by the Football League for exiting administration with without a CVA."
What is a "CVA"? The acronym is not explained anywhere in the article. Thryduulf ( talk) 19:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I've started this list off, in order to get into this list a player must have:
feel free to add to it.
cheers - Cliftonian ( talk) 13:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I have looked at the images in the article and has remove some that violates WP:NFCC. Some more comments.
Rettetast ( talk) 13:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I have asked my old chum Dweller to cast his eye over the article. A fresh set of eyes is always a good thing in preparation for FAC. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 10:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'll list them here:
The logo image for this club has been reverted back to SVG as per discussion at Wikipedia talk:Image use policy#File:Man Utd FC .svg Arteyu ? Blame it on me ! 05:06, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Why is Kevin Blackwell not included in the table of former Luton managers? He wasn't that bad!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.138.18 ( talk) 11:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
This change was apparently made due to the FAC, which is here. I see nothing in there which would necessitate the use of a key which is pointless to users of graphical web browsers and entirely useless to the visually impaired in there. Perhaps someone could enlighten me, as this definitely isn't a common feature of FA-class football club articles. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 22:20, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
I know that you're only trying to be helpful and to contribute, and I commend you for that; however, you can't just get rid of parts of the article that were necessary for it to get promoted. And before you say, it's not a personal thing. I'm merely defending the opinions of the users who helped this article to FA.
Cheers, – Cliftonian the orangey bit 11:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
I have added a spoken version of this article; see the link above and under "External Links" in the article itself. Hassocks 5489 (tickets please!) 22:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
Add alt text per WP:ALT, see the current alt text here. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 21:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
This page seems to have been vandalised. It says Peterborough united reserves.
The Luton News is reporting that Charles and Beavan have both been released. Is The Luton News a reliable and official enough source, or should we wait for official confirmation from the club? For the record, the article isn't online, it's in the paper only. Haruman215 ( talk) 12:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
I edited the club colours but I see the changes have been reversed. Our current home shirt is the same colour as Blackpool's shirt last season (it's their previous Cabrini kit); it's not dark orange, more tangerine. We wear white socks with orange tops at home as first choice too, just like we did last night in the home game against kettering. Our away kit has orange socks, not white (in fact those previously depicted are the home socks - the orange top is the correct shade for the current home shirt). I have amended the colours again - could we keep these colours unless and until the club changes them, please? Cheers, Stevo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.195.84.178 ( talk) 08:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
ksmkldmkladsad — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.9.156.220 ( talk) 05:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I do feel John Moore is well worth a mention, he may not have been in charge for 50 games, but, 7th in the First Division was & is the highest position ever achieved. Also he was a great player & later coach for Luton Town. So please give him credit if only in the text. 82.19.10.4 ( talk) 14:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Lutonoldboy 17-12-2013
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Hello Hatters!
Lately I've been working on Wikimedia Commons, on organising Luton and LTFC related media.
Firstly, all the kit elements/templates which are specific to Luton now have their own subcategory: Category:Luton Town FC kits. Rather than the generic categories, this helps organise and keep track of the files we have. If there's any images that still need moving to that category (I've probably missed some), please add them or let me know.
Also, I made this page: Luton Town FC kits. This goes in the aforementioned category and is to detail the history of how the kits have evolved over the years, as has also been done for other teams. I've started it off by giving a rough summary, but it would be nice to build it into a central, detailed history of the team's kit. It could be linked with the Wikipedia article, like other teams' articles do, for example at Arsenal F.C.#Colours. If you'd like to add to the page, create some historical kit images, or even just share some useful references, that would be great.
Thanks!
odg ( talk) 16:59, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
In the honours section, it mentions: "Luton Town's major honours are detailed below; non-League achievements are omitted."
This means that the 2013–14 Conference Premier title isn't included. What was the justification behind this? It seems odd to exclude a league title won by the first-team. All the best Michaeldble ( talk) 14:39, 16 July 2023 (UTC)