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Over and over again a partisan (Republican) poster is posting a laundry list of criticisms of the Sheriff and "citing" articles that don't say what the laundry list claims they do. This entire article is beset by POV. I have edited the article to try to approach NPOV. I have created a section regarding the Sheriff's term in office, where IN CONTEXT, PROPERLY WRITTEN, NPOV information about the criticisms she has received should fit. Just listing a bunch of charges with a "citation" link is not fair, and is not representative of the Sheriff's tenure in office as a whole, which is what I've tried to add. Let's avoid laundry lists, and try to phrase things as complete sentences that ACCURATELY REFLECT the sources they are "citing." Wikipedia should not be a place where opponents of a candidate (who is targeted by Republicans viciously for being a woman, for being Hispanic and, of course, for being a lesbian) can carpet bomb indiscriminately. Kirkland ( talk) 18:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
This page has twice now been revised to include partisan misinformation against the Sheriff. The Sheriff hasn't been trying to use this page as propaganda, and the other side shouldn't, either. Is there a way to lock the page to prevent Check28 from vandalizing it again?
User:Fireball1244
17:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering, it looks like there are a few knocks unnecessarily taken at the article's subject here. I point in particular to the part indicating that she is not expected to last longer than one term because she's inexperienced... That sounds very biased to me, maybe even vandalism. I'm going to question the neutrality of this article since it seems to be a continuing problem. Also, the bottom sections called "Accomplishments" (even the fact that there are duplicate sections) need some major cleanup as they seem to be opinions and poorly written. Brakbudy 01:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)brakbudy
Khervey ( talk) 03:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)I came here to learn about the current sheriff and was surprised at its claims. Army officer? I found the rest of the biography incredulous, so I went looking at references. Most are dead links. Everything that can't be substantiated should be deleted--as soon as possible since voting has started Khervey ( talk) 03:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
The following information was removed from the main page because it appears as if it was written by her own campaign manager. In fact:
68.95.142.112 ( talk) 02:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Good gosh, write in your own stuff if you think it criticizes her too much. It's not like your hands are tied. If you thing the phrases used are slanted, then straighten them up a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.194.210.84 ( talk) 03:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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I have no intention of whitewashing this article - Ms Valdez' term obviously has had a wide variety of critics. However, the article must be Wikipedia policy compliant. It must find a better, policy compliant balance of reporting criticism with fairness and accuracy. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 22:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Saw a post about this article by Dvl007 (Raven) on WP:BLPN, started going through the sources in the controversy section, but decided it can't be salvaged as-is and would need to be completely re-written *in prose* with high quality sources, so I removed it to paste here for now, because the current version blatantly violates of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. There are no topics, especially not articles about living people, where it would be appropriate to have a bullet list of complaints like this. Here's the material I removed for anyone who's interested in re-writing it:
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She faced criticism from her opponents [1] and the Dallas Morning News. [2] References Valdez's tenure has been marked by a number of controversies, including:
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Per WP:BLPREMOVE, please put a draft on this talkpage for consensus before re-inserting if in the future an editor feels this is worth re-writing. —PermStrump (talk) 02:49, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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It seems clear that this article on Lupe Valdez is very polarizing, however there is a middle ground where editors can meet.
Having lived in DFW for most of her time as sheriff I find it odd that there is little mention of anything that might be considered negative regarding her time as sheriff.
I personal don't feel that having a section on "Controversies" is what is needed, since the article seems to take a chronological walk through her life, I think that verified - reliably sourced information that might not make a campaign site is appropriate.
I would suggest that we either split the Section "Election as Sheriff" into two one covering her election the other on her first term or rename this section as "Election and First Term as Sheriff".
I think it would be worth noting her:
Others that might be worth mentioning would be:
Thoughts? Preston A. Vickrey (humbly) ( talk) 23:23, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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Over and over again a partisan (Republican) poster is posting a laundry list of criticisms of the Sheriff and "citing" articles that don't say what the laundry list claims they do. This entire article is beset by POV. I have edited the article to try to approach NPOV. I have created a section regarding the Sheriff's term in office, where IN CONTEXT, PROPERLY WRITTEN, NPOV information about the criticisms she has received should fit. Just listing a bunch of charges with a "citation" link is not fair, and is not representative of the Sheriff's tenure in office as a whole, which is what I've tried to add. Let's avoid laundry lists, and try to phrase things as complete sentences that ACCURATELY REFLECT the sources they are "citing." Wikipedia should not be a place where opponents of a candidate (who is targeted by Republicans viciously for being a woman, for being Hispanic and, of course, for being a lesbian) can carpet bomb indiscriminately. Kirkland ( talk) 18:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
This page has twice now been revised to include partisan misinformation against the Sheriff. The Sheriff hasn't been trying to use this page as propaganda, and the other side shouldn't, either. Is there a way to lock the page to prevent Check28 from vandalizing it again?
User:Fireball1244
17:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Just wondering, it looks like there are a few knocks unnecessarily taken at the article's subject here. I point in particular to the part indicating that she is not expected to last longer than one term because she's inexperienced... That sounds very biased to me, maybe even vandalism. I'm going to question the neutrality of this article since it seems to be a continuing problem. Also, the bottom sections called "Accomplishments" (even the fact that there are duplicate sections) need some major cleanup as they seem to be opinions and poorly written. Brakbudy 01:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)brakbudy
Khervey ( talk) 03:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)I came here to learn about the current sheriff and was surprised at its claims. Army officer? I found the rest of the biography incredulous, so I went looking at references. Most are dead links. Everything that can't be substantiated should be deleted--as soon as possible since voting has started Khervey ( talk) 03:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
The following information was removed from the main page because it appears as if it was written by her own campaign manager. In fact:
68.95.142.112 ( talk) 02:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Good gosh, write in your own stuff if you think it criticizes her too much. It's not like your hands are tied. If you thing the phrases used are slanted, then straighten them up a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.194.210.84 ( talk) 03:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a complaint to the Wikimedia Foundation (OTRS) and has been identified to be not currently compliant with our Biographies of Living Persons policy. I and possibly other administrators or senior editors will be working on the article to correct these problems.
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I have no intention of whitewashing this article - Ms Valdez' term obviously has had a wide variety of critics. However, the article must be Wikipedia policy compliant. It must find a better, policy compliant balance of reporting criticism with fairness and accuracy. Georgewilliamherbert ( talk) 22:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Saw a post about this article by Dvl007 (Raven) on WP:BLPN, started going through the sources in the controversy section, but decided it can't be salvaged as-is and would need to be completely re-written *in prose* with high quality sources, so I removed it to paste here for now, because the current version blatantly violates of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. There are no topics, especially not articles about living people, where it would be appropriate to have a bullet list of complaints like this. Here's the material I removed for anyone who's interested in re-writing it:
Extended content
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She faced criticism from her opponents [1] and the Dallas Morning News. [2] References Valdez's tenure has been marked by a number of controversies, including:
References
|
Per WP:BLPREMOVE, please put a draft on this talkpage for consensus before re-inserting if in the future an editor feels this is worth re-writing. —PermStrump (talk) 02:49, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
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It seems clear that this article on Lupe Valdez is very polarizing, however there is a middle ground where editors can meet.
Having lived in DFW for most of her time as sheriff I find it odd that there is little mention of anything that might be considered negative regarding her time as sheriff.
I personal don't feel that having a section on "Controversies" is what is needed, since the article seems to take a chronological walk through her life, I think that verified - reliably sourced information that might not make a campaign site is appropriate.
I would suggest that we either split the Section "Election as Sheriff" into two one covering her election the other on her first term or rename this section as "Election and First Term as Sheriff".
I think it would be worth noting her:
Others that might be worth mentioning would be:
Thoughts? Preston A. Vickrey (humbly) ( talk) 23:23, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
References