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Nice job! When I first looked at it, I thought it had been around for ages! Fr ed il 01:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I still haven't figured out how to do the references here, so I'll just list them in the order that they were used, and hope that someone else will fix the formatting. There are some cases where multiple sources say pretty much the same thing, which makes it even more confusing.
Aetna InteliHealth http://www.inteihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/31212.html Accessed on September 29, 2006.
eMedicine from WebMD http://ww.emedicine.com/med/topic2980.htm Accessed on September 29, 2006.
Cleveland Clinic http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2700/2720.asp?index=4491 Accessed on September 29, 2006.
I know that other sources were also used, I just have to relocate them. Thanks in advance! -- Kyok o 12:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Just making a note so I don't forget (but if somebody gets to it before I do, thanks), the fact that during transplantation nerves are severed and aren't reconnected so feelings in the lungs are gone. While an obvious side effect it adds more danger since it's harder for the patient to tell if there is phlegm that needs to be removed from the body, if it's harder to take in air, or if there's an infection settling in the chest. I would say this might not even need a mention but since nerves are cut it is easier for a patient to get sick without realizing it since they don't feel bad or heavy in the chest. I don't have references for this right at the moment or else I'd add it myself. -- ImmortalGoddezz 17:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Should there be a more detailed section on the immunosuppressive drug regimen that lung transplant patients must take? I don't have experience with this personally, but from what I've read, such patients are commonly put on a regimen of three different medications. I don't know how that compares with people who have had other organs transplanted. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- Kyok o 00:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I wikilinked the term "excess fluids" (post-transplant) to Pleural effusion, but I was wondering if there is a more specific term that might be more appropriate. I've found articles like Hemothorax, Hydrothorax, and Chylothorax. I don't know enough about the subject to tell what the fluids are, but I would guess that it would be a combination of blood, lymphatic fluid, and serous fluid. Is just the pleural effusion link OK? Thanks. -- Kyok o 06:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I have a number of questions and comments regarding lung transplants, and these are all geared towards improving the article. Please forgive me if the questions seem naive.
1. The section on the history of lung transplants greatly needs to be expanded. I've done what I can, in my own non-specialist way, but it needs more.
2. I am extremely fuzzy about the procedure of lobar transplants. I understand that the left lung has 2 lobes and the right lung has 3, and that the lower lobes are used in donation. What I don't get is the procedure itself. Are the individual lobes collapsed (if that is possible) and the relevant blood vessels tied off, similarly to the single/double lung procedures?
3. The Merck Manual 18th edition talks about chronic rejection taking the "form of obliterative bronchiolitis, or less commonly, atheroschlerosis". Is this the same as bronchiolitis obliterans? I understand that as a result of an immune response in this case, tissue is formed that can no longer perform normal lung functions (or perform poorly). So once again, are obliterative bronchiolitis and bronchiolitis obliterans the same thing? The bronchiolitis might be worth mentioning in the article.
4. Probably the most important question for my understanding, if not for the article itself: if the patient's lungs are diseased enough to require a transplant, then how exactly do they maintain adequate oxygenation of the patient while one or both lungs are removed? The section on double tx says that 10-20% of patients are hooked up to a heart-lung machine, which makes sense. This doesn't explain what happens to the other patients.
I know that the oxygen concentration of what the patient breathes can be increased, and that for normal people, they can survive fine on one healthy lung, but this still doesn't explain (to me anyway) what happens to a patient with poor lung function who is having at least one lung temporarily removed. Is it normally enough to supply a 100% O2/anesthesia mix during the surgery, or are such patients also put on a heart-lung machine or similar device?
Thanks for any answers, and I'm sorry if the questions sound odd or naive. -- Kyok o 03:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I was editing
cardiothoracic surgery and there was some lung transplantation history which is more appropriate on this page
I removed the above text, but placed it here rather than deleting it. Dlodge 20:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, do you think it would be worth mentioning the process of preparing donor lungs, i.e. their removal, inspection, prostacyclin wash, etc.? -- Kyok o 06:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, in one of the other pages that I've edited, I encountered the viewpoint that things should generally be in prose rather in lists, particularly if the article is under consideration for Good Article or Featured Article status.
As you know, the lung tx article currently has a lot of lists. I personally feel that keeping things in lists makes it easier for a reader to process a large amount of information, as in the list of requirements for potential recipients. There are also some things that I feel must be in a list or graph form, such as the list of qualifying conditions. I would appreciate some opinions on this.
Another thing: I'm considering submitting this to the Article Improvement Drive, in the hope that a wider audience might be able to fill in the gaps. I myself tend to hop from subject to subject here on Wikipedia, but I hope to get back into building this article again. -- Kyok o 21:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sometimes things get into the literature for no real justified reason. By what reason are the mentally ill to be refused life saving treatment. I noticed that drug therapy for hepatitis C also has this contraindication for the mentally ill, but the reason given for that is the drug therapy itself sometimes causes CNS symptoms, but even that is shaky. I am not trying to editorialize, I just question the reasoning, what is it based on?
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There is no reference to the ribs in this article.
Nice job! When I first looked at it, I thought it had been around for ages! Fr ed il 01:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I still haven't figured out how to do the references here, so I'll just list them in the order that they were used, and hope that someone else will fix the formatting. There are some cases where multiple sources say pretty much the same thing, which makes it even more confusing.
Aetna InteliHealth http://www.inteihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/31212.html Accessed on September 29, 2006.
eMedicine from WebMD http://ww.emedicine.com/med/topic2980.htm Accessed on September 29, 2006.
Cleveland Clinic http://www.clevelandclinic.org/health/health-info/docs/2700/2720.asp?index=4491 Accessed on September 29, 2006.
I know that other sources were also used, I just have to relocate them. Thanks in advance! -- Kyok o 12:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Just making a note so I don't forget (but if somebody gets to it before I do, thanks), the fact that during transplantation nerves are severed and aren't reconnected so feelings in the lungs are gone. While an obvious side effect it adds more danger since it's harder for the patient to tell if there is phlegm that needs to be removed from the body, if it's harder to take in air, or if there's an infection settling in the chest. I would say this might not even need a mention but since nerves are cut it is easier for a patient to get sick without realizing it since they don't feel bad or heavy in the chest. I don't have references for this right at the moment or else I'd add it myself. -- ImmortalGoddezz 17:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Should there be a more detailed section on the immunosuppressive drug regimen that lung transplant patients must take? I don't have experience with this personally, but from what I've read, such patients are commonly put on a regimen of three different medications. I don't know how that compares with people who have had other organs transplanted. Any thoughts on this? Thanks, -- Kyok o 00:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I wikilinked the term "excess fluids" (post-transplant) to Pleural effusion, but I was wondering if there is a more specific term that might be more appropriate. I've found articles like Hemothorax, Hydrothorax, and Chylothorax. I don't know enough about the subject to tell what the fluids are, but I would guess that it would be a combination of blood, lymphatic fluid, and serous fluid. Is just the pleural effusion link OK? Thanks. -- Kyok o 06:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I have a number of questions and comments regarding lung transplants, and these are all geared towards improving the article. Please forgive me if the questions seem naive.
1. The section on the history of lung transplants greatly needs to be expanded. I've done what I can, in my own non-specialist way, but it needs more.
2. I am extremely fuzzy about the procedure of lobar transplants. I understand that the left lung has 2 lobes and the right lung has 3, and that the lower lobes are used in donation. What I don't get is the procedure itself. Are the individual lobes collapsed (if that is possible) and the relevant blood vessels tied off, similarly to the single/double lung procedures?
3. The Merck Manual 18th edition talks about chronic rejection taking the "form of obliterative bronchiolitis, or less commonly, atheroschlerosis". Is this the same as bronchiolitis obliterans? I understand that as a result of an immune response in this case, tissue is formed that can no longer perform normal lung functions (or perform poorly). So once again, are obliterative bronchiolitis and bronchiolitis obliterans the same thing? The bronchiolitis might be worth mentioning in the article.
4. Probably the most important question for my understanding, if not for the article itself: if the patient's lungs are diseased enough to require a transplant, then how exactly do they maintain adequate oxygenation of the patient while one or both lungs are removed? The section on double tx says that 10-20% of patients are hooked up to a heart-lung machine, which makes sense. This doesn't explain what happens to the other patients.
I know that the oxygen concentration of what the patient breathes can be increased, and that for normal people, they can survive fine on one healthy lung, but this still doesn't explain (to me anyway) what happens to a patient with poor lung function who is having at least one lung temporarily removed. Is it normally enough to supply a 100% O2/anesthesia mix during the surgery, or are such patients also put on a heart-lung machine or similar device?
Thanks for any answers, and I'm sorry if the questions sound odd or naive. -- Kyok o 03:01, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I was editing
cardiothoracic surgery and there was some lung transplantation history which is more appropriate on this page
I removed the above text, but placed it here rather than deleting it. Dlodge 20:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, do you think it would be worth mentioning the process of preparing donor lungs, i.e. their removal, inspection, prostacyclin wash, etc.? -- Kyok o 06:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello, in one of the other pages that I've edited, I encountered the viewpoint that things should generally be in prose rather in lists, particularly if the article is under consideration for Good Article or Featured Article status.
As you know, the lung tx article currently has a lot of lists. I personally feel that keeping things in lists makes it easier for a reader to process a large amount of information, as in the list of requirements for potential recipients. There are also some things that I feel must be in a list or graph form, such as the list of qualifying conditions. I would appreciate some opinions on this.
Another thing: I'm considering submitting this to the Article Improvement Drive, in the hope that a wider audience might be able to fill in the gaps. I myself tend to hop from subject to subject here on Wikipedia, but I hope to get back into building this article again. -- Kyok o 21:50, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Sometimes things get into the literature for no real justified reason. By what reason are the mentally ill to be refused life saving treatment. I noticed that drug therapy for hepatitis C also has this contraindication for the mentally ill, but the reason given for that is the drug therapy itself sometimes causes CNS symptoms, but even that is shaky. I am not trying to editorialize, I just question the reasoning, what is it based on?
71.114.181.145 ( talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:22, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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I have just modified 3 external links on Lung transplantation. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
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