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This is a ridiculous article. Should something be done to improve it, or should it be deleted? - MontrĂŠalais
Is there any reason at all that this article deserves to be on Wikipedia? - Manika
KEEEP! 68,100 Google hits can't be wrong. The thing exists in reality and is also depicted in numerous movies.
improve yes but not to delete.
Keep! I created a stub from a long not working link in Love and within 24 hours lots of people participated ;-). Now, to the points by other people made here.
Przepla 23:06, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Should Elaine and George of Seinfeld be listed here? I don't think there is any justification for the "hate" part of their relationship.
Moe and Marge?
I don't think the Calvin and Susie from Calvin and Hobbes has much foundation as a love-hate relationship. (sign you're posts!) NeoChrono Ryu 00:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Insomuch as the idea of the "love-hate relationship" commonly exists and is discussed and portrayed in works of fiction the subject deserves an article. This article, however, is possibly one of the stupidest articles in all of wikipedia (and I just finished reading though the "Sex moves" category). âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.169.10 ( talk ⢠contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC).
This, too - argh!:
The article begins as a description of a type of romance, and then its first example of a love-hate relationship is about a person's feelings towards a computer. It sounds like what some parent would say to their inept nerdy son in order to explain a love-hate relationship. I suppose it should be removed or moved downwards in the article, though I can't decide which one is a better edit.-- The ikiroid ( talk¡ desk¡ Advise me) 03:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
It's a bunch of unsourced, unverified rambling about vague psychological concepts and relationships. Then a frequently-pared down list of "famous love-hate relationships", most of which aren't actually love-hate relationships as most people think of them.
Most articles linking to this article and using this term mean one of two widely held casual usages of the term:
Neither of those definitions is really in the article at all. It needs sourced, re-organized and cleaned up. It'd be better off deleted than remaining in this state. MarkovvChaney 12:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I dont think it should be deleted.I have a love-hate relationship I like this guy he only likes me as a friend which we were in the past I still like him both as a friend and romanticly but somewhat resent him for hurting me-- Sweetheart2009 ( talk) 00:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)sweetheart2009
I see two things which need work:
- moritheil Talk 04:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere âPreceding unsigned comment added by 97.126.193.174 ( talk) 08:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
There is nothing in the poem "Odi et Amo" of Catullus mentioned under Culture. . .
I hate and I love. Why do I do this, perhaps you're asking? I do not know, but I feel it happen, and I am being tortured to death.
. . . to suggest it is about some sort of love-hate relationship.
I believe the standard reading of this poem is that is simply about the extreme stresses caused by passions of the heart, on both the body and mind.
I suggest removing this example entirely.
I fetched up here while digging around in W'pedia for something about conflict-habituated relationships, but "conflict habituated" appears exactly ZERO times in the entire vast database.
It's a far better term than "love-hate relationship," which betrays its
slick roots. Out in consensus reality, most such relationships are much better characterized as "vague & ill-formed support perpetuated by laziness vs. petty irritation about trivia" â people would rather grouse/grumble than exert any productive effort. Meanwhile, a conflict-habituated relationship is often a game in which (according to
transactional analysis) the participants derive a degree of satisfaction from the constant tension, for instance having someone else to share blame upon for their own lack of success.
Weeb Dingle (
talk)
18:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Looks like there's some ableism under "psychological roots" & "family and development" Especially referring to people with NPD and BPD as "narcissists" and "borderlines". Unfortunately i have no other way to put it into words but I think this tidbit of text is unnecessary and lacks respect for people with NPD and BPD as real, complex people.
" Narcissists and borderlines have been seen as particularly prone to aggressive reactions towards love objects, not least when issues of self-identity are involved: in extreme instances, hate at the very existence of the other may be the only emotion felt, until love breaks through behind it." 2600:4040:A034:A300:F5:AA7D:CADC:1DDD ( talk) 21:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's
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This is a ridiculous article. Should something be done to improve it, or should it be deleted? - MontrĂŠalais
Is there any reason at all that this article deserves to be on Wikipedia? - Manika
KEEEP! 68,100 Google hits can't be wrong. The thing exists in reality and is also depicted in numerous movies.
improve yes but not to delete.
Keep! I created a stub from a long not working link in Love and within 24 hours lots of people participated ;-). Now, to the points by other people made here.
Przepla 23:06, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Should Elaine and George of Seinfeld be listed here? I don't think there is any justification for the "hate" part of their relationship.
Moe and Marge?
I don't think the Calvin and Susie from Calvin and Hobbes has much foundation as a love-hate relationship. (sign you're posts!) NeoChrono Ryu 00:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Insomuch as the idea of the "love-hate relationship" commonly exists and is discussed and portrayed in works of fiction the subject deserves an article. This article, however, is possibly one of the stupidest articles in all of wikipedia (and I just finished reading though the "Sex moves" category). âThe preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.83.169.10 ( talk ⢠contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC).
This, too - argh!:
The article begins as a description of a type of romance, and then its first example of a love-hate relationship is about a person's feelings towards a computer. It sounds like what some parent would say to their inept nerdy son in order to explain a love-hate relationship. I suppose it should be removed or moved downwards in the article, though I can't decide which one is a better edit.-- The ikiroid ( talk¡ desk¡ Advise me) 03:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
It's a bunch of unsourced, unverified rambling about vague psychological concepts and relationships. Then a frequently-pared down list of "famous love-hate relationships", most of which aren't actually love-hate relationships as most people think of them.
Most articles linking to this article and using this term mean one of two widely held casual usages of the term:
Neither of those definitions is really in the article at all. It needs sourced, re-organized and cleaned up. It'd be better off deleted than remaining in this state. MarkovvChaney 12:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I dont think it should be deleted.I have a love-hate relationship I like this guy he only likes me as a friend which we were in the past I still like him both as a friend and romanticly but somewhat resent him for hurting me-- Sweetheart2009 ( talk) 00:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)sweetheart2009
I see two things which need work:
- moritheil Talk 04:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsundere âPreceding unsigned comment added by 97.126.193.174 ( talk) 08:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
There is nothing in the poem "Odi et Amo" of Catullus mentioned under Culture. . .
I hate and I love. Why do I do this, perhaps you're asking? I do not know, but I feel it happen, and I am being tortured to death.
. . . to suggest it is about some sort of love-hate relationship.
I believe the standard reading of this poem is that is simply about the extreme stresses caused by passions of the heart, on both the body and mind.
I suggest removing this example entirely.
I fetched up here while digging around in W'pedia for something about conflict-habituated relationships, but "conflict habituated" appears exactly ZERO times in the entire vast database.
It's a far better term than "love-hate relationship," which betrays its
slick roots. Out in consensus reality, most such relationships are much better characterized as "vague & ill-formed support perpetuated by laziness vs. petty irritation about trivia" â people would rather grouse/grumble than exert any productive effort. Meanwhile, a conflict-habituated relationship is often a game in which (according to
transactional analysis) the participants derive a degree of satisfaction from the constant tension, for instance having someone else to share blame upon for their own lack of success.
Weeb Dingle (
talk)
18:01, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
Looks like there's some ableism under "psychological roots" & "family and development" Especially referring to people with NPD and BPD as "narcissists" and "borderlines". Unfortunately i have no other way to put it into words but I think this tidbit of text is unnecessary and lacks respect for people with NPD and BPD as real, complex people.
" Narcissists and borderlines have been seen as particularly prone to aggressive reactions towards love objects, not least when issues of self-identity are involved: in extreme instances, hate at the very existence of the other may be the only emotion felt, until love breaks through behind it." 2600:4040:A034:A300:F5:AA7D:CADC:1DDD ( talk) 21:51, 6 November 2022 (UTC)