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As with any stories relating to religion, this is one that is taken from books like the Quran and Hadith, and may not be real history. Depends on your view really. DigiBullet 08:45, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
In my view, the Qur'anic character, Lut, is fully identified with the Biblical character Lot. The two sets of information should be linked. However, since Jewish and Christians traditions about Lot do not encmpass the traditions of the Qur'an, it would be best for Wikipedia to maintain two separate articles, but to include in each one a reference to the other.
My proposal:
Lot (person) will contain the undisputed views, while the two other versions will be sub-articles that the main article link to and will include the more specific views. This will link all articles together, remove the bias of one article having the prefered and only correc english title, and will also eliminate any confusion regarding mulitple persons. -striver
The Taliban note seems out of place, but I did not remove it. -- Error ( talk) 20:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
As is obvious, a major chunk of the article contains direct cites of verses from the Glorious Qur'an. While the Qur'an IS considered to be the MOST authentic text on subjects it chooses to speak about, directly citing verses into WP doesn't help much to WP's goals as an encyclopaedia. I am thus re-vamping the article, (taking subject matter from my own contributions to Biblical narratives and the Qur'an) and hope to see positive edits from everyone else as well InshaAllah. 'Abd el 'Azeez ( talk) 11:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Islamic views on Abraham which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Abraham in Islam which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Bible repeatedly used as a source?!-- عبد المؤمن ( talk) 10:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
According to the Bible, Sodom was destroyed because its inhabitants broke Jewish law by not being welcoming to foreigners. There is even disagreement over whether homosexuality is in the story at all. There are two tellings of the exact events but both agree with my first sentence. In light of this, is this article inaccurate in relation to Sodom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.192.35 ( talk) 23:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I would like someone to check the info under monument it is from a christian source i want someone to find a muslim source if there is one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.40.105.200 ( talk) 15:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
I can't believe this doesn't link to a disambiguation page, LUT can mean any numbers of things, such as Lookup Tables or Lower Urinary Tract for that matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.74.220.32 ( talk) 16:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Can anybody find the specific reference inside the source indicated in this 2018 edit? Debresser ( talk) 14:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Lot in Islam → Lut (Quran person) – Per the article, the spelling is "Lut" not "Lot". Though the person is the same as the one spelled "Lot" in other contexts, it doesn't seem WP:NATDAB to use a mis-spelling with respect to the article's own context. Lut already directs here, so alternative is to move this article to that name...a different spelling is obviously an approved DAB method (with hatnotes). However, others have also mentioned here on talkpage that this subject might not be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this word. Therefore, I instead lean towards switching the Lut DAB to point to Lut (disambiguation) and moving this page to a "Lut ..." with some DAB term added. I filed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 15#Lut because it's a semi-independent idea as part of this larger shuffling. DMacks ( talk) 18:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Dasht-e Lut :: The Lut Desert, widely referred to as Dasht-e Lut, or the Lut. 2A00:23C7:CA0C:4F01:3874:BCF1:5D75:1BB3 ( talk) 19:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | On 15 February 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Lut (Quran person). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
As with any stories relating to religion, this is one that is taken from books like the Quran and Hadith, and may not be real history. Depends on your view really. DigiBullet 08:45, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)
In my view, the Qur'anic character, Lut, is fully identified with the Biblical character Lot. The two sets of information should be linked. However, since Jewish and Christians traditions about Lot do not encmpass the traditions of the Qur'an, it would be best for Wikipedia to maintain two separate articles, but to include in each one a reference to the other.
My proposal:
Lot (person) will contain the undisputed views, while the two other versions will be sub-articles that the main article link to and will include the more specific views. This will link all articles together, remove the bias of one article having the prefered and only correc english title, and will also eliminate any confusion regarding mulitple persons. -striver
The Taliban note seems out of place, but I did not remove it. -- Error ( talk) 20:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
As is obvious, a major chunk of the article contains direct cites of verses from the Glorious Qur'an. While the Qur'an IS considered to be the MOST authentic text on subjects it chooses to speak about, directly citing verses into WP doesn't help much to WP's goals as an encyclopaedia. I am thus re-vamping the article, (taking subject matter from my own contributions to Biblical narratives and the Qur'an) and hope to see positive edits from everyone else as well InshaAllah. 'Abd el 'Azeez ( talk) 11:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Islamic views on Abraham which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:14, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Abraham in Islam which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 14:58, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Why is the Bible repeatedly used as a source?!-- عبد المؤمن ( talk) 10:56, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
According to the Bible, Sodom was destroyed because its inhabitants broke Jewish law by not being welcoming to foreigners. There is even disagreement over whether homosexuality is in the story at all. There are two tellings of the exact events but both agree with my first sentence. In light of this, is this article inaccurate in relation to Sodom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.192.35 ( talk) 23:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
I would like someone to check the info under monument it is from a christian source i want someone to find a muslim source if there is one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.40.105.200 ( talk) 15:52, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
I can't believe this doesn't link to a disambiguation page, LUT can mean any numbers of things, such as Lookup Tables or Lower Urinary Tract for that matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.74.220.32 ( talk) 16:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Can anybody find the specific reference inside the source indicated in this 2018 edit? Debresser ( talk) 14:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 15:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Lot in Islam → Lut (Quran person) – Per the article, the spelling is "Lut" not "Lot". Though the person is the same as the one spelled "Lot" in other contexts, it doesn't seem WP:NATDAB to use a mis-spelling with respect to the article's own context. Lut already directs here, so alternative is to move this article to that name...a different spelling is obviously an approved DAB method (with hatnotes). However, others have also mentioned here on talkpage that this subject might not be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this word. Therefore, I instead lean towards switching the Lut DAB to point to Lut (disambiguation) and moving this page to a "Lut ..." with some DAB term added. I filed Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 15#Lut because it's a semi-independent idea as part of this larger shuffling. DMacks ( talk) 18:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Dasht-e Lut :: The Lut Desert, widely referred to as Dasht-e Lut, or the Lut. 2A00:23C7:CA0C:4F01:3874:BCF1:5D75:1BB3 ( talk) 19:16, 15 February 2023 (UTC)