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I am right in thinking the plural of Lord President is Lords President, aren't I? Mothers-in-law and so on...
Harris 20:39, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hmm...just realized the Lord Granville died in January 1763, while Bedford apparently didn't become Lord President until December Septemberg - anyone have handy anything which would note who (if anyone) filled in in the interim? I'll be able to look it up at some point, but not immediately.
john k
21:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
On looking it up, it would appear that the post was empty between Granville's death and Bedford's appointment. 130.91.119.144 17:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC) [That was me. john k 17:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Someone's moved Category:Lord Presidents of the Council to (the incorrect, as per the discussion above) Category:Lords President of the Council, but I have no idea how category renaming works. I'm a bit annoyed that it works in a way that doesn't even bother checking the talk page of the associated article, but hey. Proteus (Talk) 16:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, don't be too mad ... I have a few dozen category renamings to feed to my bot each day. It's simply impractical to full check each one; I just trust the Cfd people to feed my bot the right information. -- Cyde↔Weys 13:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there anything to stop us moving it back? -- Harris 17:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been working on the list of office holders and can't seem to find a source on Henry FitzAlan, 19th Earl of Arundel holding the office at any point. His Wikipedia page suggests he was a prominent member of the Tudor court but nothing specific about holding the title. I've taken him out of the list, but if there are sources to verify him holding the position it would be pertinent to put him back in.
Another issue is that a lot of the early office holders don't have any information in the ministerial portfolio column— it may be helpful to broaden the scope here to include other offices appointed by the Crown. Many of the early Lord Presidents concurrently served as Lord-Lieutenants and custodes rotulorum for multiple counties; I think this information would be an interesting addition, but more importantly helps demonstrate the evolution of this sinecure office and to whom it was granted. Furthermore, column after column of blankspace is honestly very boring visually. Unless there are any strong objections I'll work on this shortly. ToastButterToast ( talk) 10:30, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Viscount Whitelaw never served as Deputy Prime Minister; he was Home Secretary, Deputy Conservative Party Leader and then Lord President; DPM was not reconstituted until Howe in '88, at which time Thatcher's press secretary ridiculed the significance of the office to the press. 98.10.165.90 ( talk) 17:17, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Separately, I don't believe that the statement that Andrea Leadsom's appointment was the first in some time where the post holder was not a full Cabinet member is correct. Struggling to find a good online source, but I believe the same was true of her two immediate predecessors, Chris Grayling and David Lidington. Moreover, I think it's been true of all of her successors to date too, so the focus on Leadsom seems undue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.73.148 ( talk) 14:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Does this position come with an income? Cassandra
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I am right in thinking the plural of Lord President is Lords President, aren't I? Mothers-in-law and so on...
Harris 20:39, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hmm...just realized the Lord Granville died in January 1763, while Bedford apparently didn't become Lord President until December Septemberg - anyone have handy anything which would note who (if anyone) filled in in the interim? I'll be able to look it up at some point, but not immediately.
john k
21:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
On looking it up, it would appear that the post was empty between Granville's death and Bedford's appointment. 130.91.119.144 17:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC) [That was me. john k 17:58, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Someone's moved Category:Lord Presidents of the Council to (the incorrect, as per the discussion above) Category:Lords President of the Council, but I have no idea how category renaming works. I'm a bit annoyed that it works in a way that doesn't even bother checking the talk page of the associated article, but hey. Proteus (Talk) 16:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey, don't be too mad ... I have a few dozen category renamings to feed to my bot each day. It's simply impractical to full check each one; I just trust the Cfd people to feed my bot the right information. -- Cyde↔Weys 13:09, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there anything to stop us moving it back? -- Harris 17:15, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I've been working on the list of office holders and can't seem to find a source on Henry FitzAlan, 19th Earl of Arundel holding the office at any point. His Wikipedia page suggests he was a prominent member of the Tudor court but nothing specific about holding the title. I've taken him out of the list, but if there are sources to verify him holding the position it would be pertinent to put him back in.
Another issue is that a lot of the early office holders don't have any information in the ministerial portfolio column— it may be helpful to broaden the scope here to include other offices appointed by the Crown. Many of the early Lord Presidents concurrently served as Lord-Lieutenants and custodes rotulorum for multiple counties; I think this information would be an interesting addition, but more importantly helps demonstrate the evolution of this sinecure office and to whom it was granted. Furthermore, column after column of blankspace is honestly very boring visually. Unless there are any strong objections I'll work on this shortly. ToastButterToast ( talk) 10:30, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Viscount Whitelaw never served as Deputy Prime Minister; he was Home Secretary, Deputy Conservative Party Leader and then Lord President; DPM was not reconstituted until Howe in '88, at which time Thatcher's press secretary ridiculed the significance of the office to the press. 98.10.165.90 ( talk) 17:17, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Separately, I don't believe that the statement that Andrea Leadsom's appointment was the first in some time where the post holder was not a full Cabinet member is correct. Struggling to find a good online source, but I believe the same was true of her two immediate predecessors, Chris Grayling and David Lidington. Moreover, I think it's been true of all of her successors to date too, so the focus on Leadsom seems undue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.96.73.148 ( talk) 14:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
Does this position come with an income? Cassandra
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Please stop all edit warring on this article and explain gain consensus on the matter. Sun Creator( talk) 05:20, 14 February 2021 (UTC)