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![]() | On 28 April 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Llancaiach Fawr Manor. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Llancaiach Fawr is obviously the name of a church or parish (you would not expect to find a house named "Llan-"). The website itself calls it "Llancaiach Fawr Manor House" (OK, you'll also find "Llancaiach Fawr" as shorthand on the site). Perhaps someone with local knowledge can enlighten us about the parish/church? It's obviously called "Fawr" to distinguish it from another Llancaiach (Welsh: Llangaiach). Suggest the page should be moved to Llancaiach Fawr Manor House. Enaidmawr ( talk) 00:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Llancaiach Fawr → Llancaiach Fawr Manor – I feel this is a more natural name, as it indicates that this is a former dwelling rather than anything else (which I think it useful when templates such as Template:Museums and art galleries in Wales use article names without any description). I also think it's more consistent with how other historic houses are named on Wikipedia (such as in Category:Manor houses in England).
Looking at Google's book ngram viewer [1], "Llancaiach Fawr Manor" was unheard of before 1989, but quickly gained in use, and has become more common than "Llancaiach Fawr" in the last decade or so.
I haven't checked page view statistics, as WikiNav gave "An error occurred" across the board, and I don't know of anything else which reports how someone reached an article.
There is an old comment on the talk page which suggested "Llancaiach Fawr Manor House", but the name the official page [2] uses when you first visit it is the one I suggested, and I haven't found any other evidence of the longer name being used. I also notice that someone changed the opening sentence in 2014 to use the title I've suggested, and it seems to have remained unchanged since.
Regarding the other "article title" criteria, my suggested name is less concise than the current title, and is no more precise (at least, I don't know of anything else which could reasonably be meant by either name).
Aoeuidhtns (
talk) 23:21, 28 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.
CLYDE
TALK TO ME/
STUFF DONE (please
mention me on reply) 00:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.
EggRoll97 (
talk) 00:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>>
Extorc.
talk
18:11, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | On 28 April 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Llancaiach Fawr Manor. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Llancaiach Fawr is obviously the name of a church or parish (you would not expect to find a house named "Llan-"). The website itself calls it "Llancaiach Fawr Manor House" (OK, you'll also find "Llancaiach Fawr" as shorthand on the site). Perhaps someone with local knowledge can enlighten us about the parish/church? It's obviously called "Fawr" to distinguish it from another Llancaiach (Welsh: Llangaiach). Suggest the page should be moved to Llancaiach Fawr Manor House. Enaidmawr ( talk) 00:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) CLYDE TALK TO ME/ STUFF DONE (please mention me on reply) 23:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Llancaiach Fawr → Llancaiach Fawr Manor – I feel this is a more natural name, as it indicates that this is a former dwelling rather than anything else (which I think it useful when templates such as Template:Museums and art galleries in Wales use article names without any description). I also think it's more consistent with how other historic houses are named on Wikipedia (such as in Category:Manor houses in England).
Looking at Google's book ngram viewer [1], "Llancaiach Fawr Manor" was unheard of before 1989, but quickly gained in use, and has become more common than "Llancaiach Fawr" in the last decade or so.
I haven't checked page view statistics, as WikiNav gave "An error occurred" across the board, and I don't know of anything else which reports how someone reached an article.
There is an old comment on the talk page which suggested "Llancaiach Fawr Manor House", but the name the official page [2] uses when you first visit it is the one I suggested, and I haven't found any other evidence of the longer name being used. I also notice that someone changed the opening sentence in 2014 to use the title I've suggested, and it seems to have remained unchanged since.
Regarding the other "article title" criteria, my suggested name is less concise than the current title, and is no more precise (at least, I don't know of anything else which could reasonably be meant by either name).
Aoeuidhtns (
talk) 23:21, 28 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.
CLYDE
TALK TO ME/
STUFF DONE (please
mention me on reply) 00:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting.
EggRoll97 (
talk) 00:24, 13 May 2023 (UTC)— Relisting. >>>
Extorc.
talk
18:11, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
References