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What happened to the List of Countries that was a list of countries (ie sovereign states plus others)? That was really useful, and now it seems to have gone. 210.10.106.195 ( talk) 05:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, it's a sad day. There used to be a useful and interesting list of countries, including sovereign states but also other entities that were not sovereign but had aspects of 'country-hood', such as Hong Kong which is recognised in internatinal treaties, along with detailed explanations of why entities might, or might not, be considered acceptable for inclusion. Now all that's been wiped away and replaced by a list of lists that, really, isn't very interesting. Having looked through the talk pages on the history of List of Countries, there doesn't seem to be any particular reason for its deletion other than that people couldn't agree whether the constitutent countries of the UK should be treated as separate countries or not. Ah well. 210.10.106.195 ( talk) 06:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
why not include Gross Domestic Product (nominal) [2006-2050] (in US$ millions) from BRIC page —Preceding
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A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Bailouts of "private" firms by governments are proliferating. It would be very interesting to see comparative data on the size of sovereign bailouts between various developed-economy countries; we could start with the G-7 and expand it as good sources are found for other countries. I'm thinking of something like absolute size of the bailout to date and size as a proportion of GDP. I've read that the British and American bailouts are large as a percentage of GDP, while Switzerland is quite small. Anyone have good links for Germany? France? et al? I would be willing to help find sources and contribute to such an article. Where would be the best place to discuss the idea? N2e ( talk) 22:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline ( talk) 14:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
– To keep in-line with the majority of lists on Wikipedia. The word countries covers both sovereign states and dependent territories. These are exceptions on Wikipedia. They should be renamed to facilitate navigation. 61.18.170.139 ( talk) 18:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
plastic jar http://www.ourplastics.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zlyseo ( talk • contribs) 08:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Having just lost money in a pub quiz where I think the question-master was wrong, I've prepared a list of countries ordered by latitude (North-South) using data from the rest of Wikipedia. The question was - "there are more countries in the northern hemisphere than the southern hemisphere ; true or false?" I thought true, but we lost the point.
So ... I've taken the existing list of countries with capital cities, added the lat/ long of each capital city (from 200-odd other wikipedia articles!), then done some spreadsheet ju-ju to order things by latitude (or if desired, longitude ; country name, and capital name come for free. I've got the data stored locally now, but never having succeeded in getting a multi-sort table working before, I am looking for someone who knows how to do this.
First few lines of data :
City | Country | Latitude | Longitude | Decimal.Lat | Decimal.Long | Equatorial? | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Grytviken | South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands | 54°15′S | 036°45′W | -54.2500 | -36.7500 | ||
Wellington | New Zealand | 41°17′S | 174°27′E | -41.2833 | 174.4500 | ||
Edinburgh of the Seven Seas | Tristan da Cunha | 37°07′S | 012°17′W | -37.1167 | -12.2833 | ||
Canberra | Australia | 35°18′S | 149°08′E | -35.3000 | 149.1333 | ||
[Massive SNIP] | |||||||
Reykjavík | Iceland | 64°08′N | 021°56′W | 64.1333 | -21.9333 | ||
Nuuk | Greenland | 64°10′N | 051°44′W | 64.1667 | -51.7333 |
Nope ; fuck that. I'm not learning a 27th programming language just for Wikipedia. Here's the data ; do what you want with it :
Aidan Karley ( talk) 12:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Well that showed up as messed up as expected ; reminds me why I decided to not waste time figuring wikiblurb in the past. I've converted a few lines into something-like wikiblurb, but I'm not trying that for 250 rows. What a horrible mess - it's worse than our programming excuse-for-a-language at work, and we get paid to plough through that.
Anyone wants to try turning the full spreadsheet (ODS format) into wikiblurb, drop me a message and I'll send you the file. Aidan Karley ( talk) 12:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I recently did some work on List of countries by population which gave it this introduction:
This is a list of countries and dependent territories by population with inclusion within the list being based on the ISO standard ISO 3166-1.
The list includes sovereign states, inhabited dependent territories and, in some cases, constituent countries of sovereign states. The United Kingdom is considered (as a sovereign state) as a single entity in the lists while the constituent countries of the Netherlands are regarded separately.
It previously read:
This is a list of independent countries and inhabited dependent territories—based on the ISO standard ISO 3166-1—by population.
(The first link there connects to list of sovereign states).
I'd appreciate thoughts on changes so far even though this content only relates to one aspect of defining countries.
In the case of countries like China which have regions mentioned in the dependent territories article (in this case Macau and Hong Kong are considered to have Special administrative region status) I think it would be worth stating in an article which states or regions are considered to be part of the main part of the country. Several articles state that they relate to both countries and dependent territories but, if you include information on dependent territories, how do you then define the country? Do you include information about a region mentioned in the dependent territory article so as to include it as being part of the country itself - (in this case you would be effectively counting the information twice) - or do you count the country as being a separate entity from any extra region in question? I'm just wondering what are good ways to go about things in these regards and how best to explain what is going on. Gregkaye ( talk) 01:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#RFC:_Lists_of_countries_and_territories.2C_List_of_sovereign_states.2C_List_of_active_rebel_groups_and_ISIL has an RFC potentially affecting this page.
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Isn't Lists of countries much easier to maintain, and therefore always more up-to-date, via simple inclusion on the member page, rather than editing here? Guarapiranga ( talk) 14:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I searched this in vain for a simple list of countries and territories/dependencies in alphabetical order. It isn’t useful to have territories and dependencies listed under sovereign states when what you are looking for is a complete list in alphabetical order. It seems not to exist. Ptilinopus ( talk) 08:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please, could You add somewhere to this list also link to Megadiverse countries? Thank You. Cassa342 ( talk) 10:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
This list of countries needs a list of countries. Browsing from a phone, not a single country is shown. 2601:648:8700:1CE0:6006:2490:2EC2:E9D3 ( talk) 16:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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What happened to the List of Countries that was a list of countries (ie sovereign states plus others)? That was really useful, and now it seems to have gone. 210.10.106.195 ( talk) 05:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Well, it's a sad day. There used to be a useful and interesting list of countries, including sovereign states but also other entities that were not sovereign but had aspects of 'country-hood', such as Hong Kong which is recognised in internatinal treaties, along with detailed explanations of why entities might, or might not, be considered acceptable for inclusion. Now all that's been wiped away and replaced by a list of lists that, really, isn't very interesting. Having looked through the talk pages on the history of List of Countries, there doesn't seem to be any particular reason for its deletion other than that people couldn't agree whether the constitutent countries of the UK should be treated as separate countries or not. Ah well. 210.10.106.195 ( talk) 06:16, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
why not include Gross Domestic Product (nominal) [2006-2050] (in US$ millions) from BRIC page —Preceding
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117.193.204.151 (
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08:47, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:59, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Bailouts of "private" firms by governments are proliferating. It would be very interesting to see comparative data on the size of sovereign bailouts between various developed-economy countries; we could start with the G-7 and expand it as good sources are found for other countries. I'm thinking of something like absolute size of the bailout to date and size as a proportion of GDP. I've read that the British and American bailouts are large as a percentage of GDP, while Switzerland is quite small. Anyone have good links for Germany? France? et al? I would be willing to help find sources and contribute to such an article. Where would be the best place to discuss the idea? N2e ( talk) 22:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Template:Lists of countries has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
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The result of the move request was: Not moved Mike Cline ( talk) 14:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
– To keep in-line with the majority of lists on Wikipedia. The word countries covers both sovereign states and dependent territories. These are exceptions on Wikipedia. They should be renamed to facilitate navigation. 61.18.170.139 ( talk) 18:02, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
plastic jar http://www.ourplastics.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zlyseo ( talk • contribs) 08:24, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Having just lost money in a pub quiz where I think the question-master was wrong, I've prepared a list of countries ordered by latitude (North-South) using data from the rest of Wikipedia. The question was - "there are more countries in the northern hemisphere than the southern hemisphere ; true or false?" I thought true, but we lost the point.
So ... I've taken the existing list of countries with capital cities, added the lat/ long of each capital city (from 200-odd other wikipedia articles!), then done some spreadsheet ju-ju to order things by latitude (or if desired, longitude ; country name, and capital name come for free. I've got the data stored locally now, but never having succeeded in getting a multi-sort table working before, I am looking for someone who knows how to do this.
First few lines of data :
City | Country | Latitude | Longitude | Decimal.Lat | Decimal.Long | Equatorial? | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Grytviken | South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands | 54°15′S | 036°45′W | -54.2500 | -36.7500 | ||
Wellington | New Zealand | 41°17′S | 174°27′E | -41.2833 | 174.4500 | ||
Edinburgh of the Seven Seas | Tristan da Cunha | 37°07′S | 012°17′W | -37.1167 | -12.2833 | ||
Canberra | Australia | 35°18′S | 149°08′E | -35.3000 | 149.1333 | ||
[Massive SNIP] | |||||||
Reykjavík | Iceland | 64°08′N | 021°56′W | 64.1333 | -21.9333 | ||
Nuuk | Greenland | 64°10′N | 051°44′W | 64.1667 | -51.7333 |
Nope ; fuck that. I'm not learning a 27th programming language just for Wikipedia. Here's the data ; do what you want with it :
Aidan Karley ( talk) 12:18, 25 July 2013 (UTC) Well that showed up as messed up as expected ; reminds me why I decided to not waste time figuring wikiblurb in the past. I've converted a few lines into something-like wikiblurb, but I'm not trying that for 250 rows. What a horrible mess - it's worse than our programming excuse-for-a-language at work, and we get paid to plough through that.
Anyone wants to try turning the full spreadsheet (ODS format) into wikiblurb, drop me a message and I'll send you the file. Aidan Karley ( talk) 12:37, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
I recently did some work on List of countries by population which gave it this introduction:
This is a list of countries and dependent territories by population with inclusion within the list being based on the ISO standard ISO 3166-1.
The list includes sovereign states, inhabited dependent territories and, in some cases, constituent countries of sovereign states. The United Kingdom is considered (as a sovereign state) as a single entity in the lists while the constituent countries of the Netherlands are regarded separately.
It previously read:
This is a list of independent countries and inhabited dependent territories—based on the ISO standard ISO 3166-1—by population.
(The first link there connects to list of sovereign states).
I'd appreciate thoughts on changes so far even though this content only relates to one aspect of defining countries.
In the case of countries like China which have regions mentioned in the dependent territories article (in this case Macau and Hong Kong are considered to have Special administrative region status) I think it would be worth stating in an article which states or regions are considered to be part of the main part of the country. Several articles state that they relate to both countries and dependent territories but, if you include information on dependent territories, how do you then define the country? Do you include information about a region mentioned in the dependent territory article so as to include it as being part of the country itself - (in this case you would be effectively counting the information twice) - or do you count the country as being a separate entity from any extra region in question? I'm just wondering what are good ways to go about things in these regards and how best to explain what is going on. Gregkaye ( talk) 01:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#RFC:_Lists_of_countries_and_territories.2C_List_of_sovereign_states.2C_List_of_active_rebel_groups_and_ISIL has an RFC potentially affecting this page.
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Isn't Lists of countries much easier to maintain, and therefore always more up-to-date, via simple inclusion on the member page, rather than editing here? Guarapiranga ( talk) 14:58, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I searched this in vain for a simple list of countries and territories/dependencies in alphabetical order. It isn’t useful to have territories and dependencies listed under sovereign states when what you are looking for is a complete list in alphabetical order. It seems not to exist. Ptilinopus ( talk) 08:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello. Please, could You add somewhere to this list also link to Megadiverse countries? Thank You. Cassa342 ( talk) 10:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
This list of countries needs a list of countries. Browsing from a phone, not a single country is shown. 2601:648:8700:1CE0:6006:2490:2EC2:E9D3 ( talk) 16:17, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
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