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This article includes incidents that took place before the area was renamed "Palestine" by the Romans. Please explain. -- 68.6.227.26 ( talk) 22:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Considering the recent upgrade of State of Palestine and the ongoing disputes, this article should be renamed accordingly to reduce confusion. It should either be renamed to "List of massacres in Southern Levant" or split into articles such as "List of massacres in Southern Syria" and "List of massacres in Byzantine Palaestina". This is not a formal rename proposal, please raise opinions to decide the best title, then we go on procedural move. Greyshark09 ( talk) 22:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Considering this was proposed and the only user to comment disagreed, I see no reason why the article should be split now as it just was. If there is a list on the state then we can talk about how, or whether, to disambiguate this list, but for now each of the listed events fits fine within the title in Palestine. nableezy - 16:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The content of this article is greatly overlapping with List of massacres in Ottoman Syria, so I suggest they should be merged.
We have a separate problem here though, which is that the list of massacres in both articles is skewed towards massacres in which the victims were predominantly Jewish. So for example, despite the huge upheavals in the region in 1517, 1660, 1834 and 1838, we ignore all the massacres which took place at other locations throughout the region.
That is of course primarily because of the amount of right-wing pro-Zionist research that has been devoted to trying to undermine the statement that "Jews and Muslims lived peacefully in the region prior to Zionism", whereas there has been no such motivation to write scholarly articles on every other sub-incident of the upheavals in 1517, 1660, 1834 and 1838, so we cannot write wiki-articles on them either.
Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
The merge was not done as no consensus. The alternative then is to ensure separate scopes for the two articles. Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
What inclusion criteria is being followed for this article? Since this article is effectively a sub-article of List of events named massacres, I suggest we use the criteria clearly stated at Talk:List of events named massacres. OK? Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:12, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
This article is nothing but original research. Allegedly a list of "massacres" that took place in Palestine, none of the three incidents listed is generally referred to, by historians or by the public, as a massacre. Ridiculous! — MShabazz Talk/ Stalk 00:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
There’s enormous amounts of massacres in Palestine right now. Wikipedia should be tracking them. 144.121.36.242 ( talk) 13:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
This is just a disambiguation page, there's no real content. Possibly it should be turned into a redirect? But I worry about losing the history. MWQs ( talk) 21:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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This article includes incidents that took place before the area was renamed "Palestine" by the Romans. Please explain. -- 68.6.227.26 ( talk) 22:17, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Considering the recent upgrade of State of Palestine and the ongoing disputes, this article should be renamed accordingly to reduce confusion. It should either be renamed to "List of massacres in Southern Levant" or split into articles such as "List of massacres in Southern Syria" and "List of massacres in Byzantine Palaestina". This is not a formal rename proposal, please raise opinions to decide the best title, then we go on procedural move. Greyshark09 ( talk) 22:01, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Considering this was proposed and the only user to comment disagreed, I see no reason why the article should be split now as it just was. If there is a list on the state then we can talk about how, or whether, to disambiguate this list, but for now each of the listed events fits fine within the title in Palestine. nableezy - 16:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The content of this article is greatly overlapping with List of massacres in Ottoman Syria, so I suggest they should be merged.
We have a separate problem here though, which is that the list of massacres in both articles is skewed towards massacres in which the victims were predominantly Jewish. So for example, despite the huge upheavals in the region in 1517, 1660, 1834 and 1838, we ignore all the massacres which took place at other locations throughout the region.
That is of course primarily because of the amount of right-wing pro-Zionist research that has been devoted to trying to undermine the statement that "Jews and Muslims lived peacefully in the region prior to Zionism", whereas there has been no such motivation to write scholarly articles on every other sub-incident of the upheavals in 1517, 1660, 1834 and 1838, so we cannot write wiki-articles on them either.
Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:30, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
The merge was not done as no consensus. The alternative then is to ensure separate scopes for the two articles. Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:10, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
What inclusion criteria is being followed for this article? Since this article is effectively a sub-article of List of events named massacres, I suggest we use the criteria clearly stated at Talk:List of events named massacres. OK? Oncenawhile ( talk) 08:12, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
This article is nothing but original research. Allegedly a list of "massacres" that took place in Palestine, none of the three incidents listed is generally referred to, by historians or by the public, as a massacre. Ridiculous! — MShabazz Talk/ Stalk 00:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
There’s enormous amounts of massacres in Palestine right now. Wikipedia should be tracking them. 144.121.36.242 ( talk) 13:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
This is just a disambiguation page, there's no real content. Possibly it should be turned into a redirect? But I worry about losing the history. MWQs ( talk) 21:58, 19 June 2024 (UTC)