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Shouldn't those Fahrenheit temperatures actually be Celsius, not Fahrenheit? It says for the Africa/On Earth that the highest recorded temperature Fahrenheit was 136 degrees, on the Fahrenheit scale that is not even the boiling point of water, and on the Celsius scale it is in the 50's. Though I don't understand this either, my air conditioner seemed to think Fahrenheit was the scale in which water freezes at 0 degrees and boils at 100 as well. What's going on? The snare ( talk) 13:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you serious? You really believe that the highest recorded temperature would be ABOVE the boiling point??? 85.226.9.236 ( talk) 20:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm no temperature science guy, but I suspect that you perhaps shouldn't rely on your air conditioner for your scientific education; unless it was made in Germany or something - man, those guys are smart. Perhaps you should have a look on the internet to see if maybe somebody's written some kind of information reference database type thing. Y'know something like one of those big clever books that libraries have called encycle-peediayahs or something like that. If there is one, then maybe some people have written articles explaining all those complicated temperature systems. Man, that'd be neat. If you find one, let me know; I could do with a thing like that. But I reckon you must be right about Africa being above boiling point - that's probably why they're always going about about how they don't have any water and stuff. Kodabar ( talk) 01:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Teneriefe air crash is listed at the bottom, i realise this terrible disaster was attributed to various reasons, including fog, but it is certainly not a weather record. Please could someone tell me why this is included —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.81.135 ( talk) 00:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Most temperature records reported are completely unrealistic, recorded in non-standard conditions, most records are very old but the world has warmed a lot since than..... Seville 50°C....but Istituto nacional de meteorologia de espana claims that Seville record is 47°C and this is not europe warmest temperature:
http://www.inm.es/web/sup/ciencia/divulga/efemerides/efemerides.html
En muchas publicaciones entre ellas en los “RECORDS GUINNES”, se da como record en España los 51ºC de temperatura registrada en Sevilla el 30 de julio de 1876. Pero este dato se midió con un instrumental instalado en unas condiciones técnicas deficientes, en la cúpula de la Iglesia de la Anunciación, donde estaba el termómetro en una garita tipo facistol, protección conocida también como del tipo Montsouris.
This is just an example.
Europe record is for riodades, portugal: 50,5 in 4 august 1881. In which conditions? I don´t know. But the record is registered and available. It was measured by a meteorological station ( not on a church I guess). If wanted more data about this I can provide. Cordoba or ecija maybe reach around the same on one year or another, who knows? Maybe that 51 is false but how about the other 50 for seville? False too? Any scientific arguments or just some meteorologists opinions?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.219 ( talk) 00:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
STOP adding Riodades 50.5 as europe's highest, The World Meteorological Organization link! nor the "Instituto de Meteorologia, IP Portugal" link! as ratified it, the Portugese record is 47.4 c in 2003 and the spanish is 47.8 c in 1876. The european record is 48.0 c in athens. And stop refering to "dandantheweatherman" it's NOT a reliable source. Dabean ( talk) 02:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I´m seeing that you are furious, about the fact that iberian peninsula mainland valleys are much warmer than you ever thought. Just think a bit, mr, on a low valley at more than 250 km from the nearest sea breeze, surrounded by big mountains, on which the sun radiation is gathered in the «heat consuming» rocky soils, plus a much more near position in relation to North Africa. You have only 13 km of sea separating Iberian Peninsula from Africa, then you have the conditions for a european record. You can easily smell Sahara and even feel the sand from there. So you want to give more credit to Murcia´s 47,8 that was registered in 1876 (!!) just because is below your 48ºc in Athens? La Puebla de Cazalla in Spain registered 48,8, one place in Sicily, claims 48,5. So lots of places claim more than just 48ºc as european record. BY the way, I never saw Athens as having european record, but usually and fairly Seville on the same day (4/8/1881) of Riodades registered 50,0ºc ( just below Riodade´s 50,5). Riodades has a historical and functional meteorological station, while on the Seville case the temperature was measured in a Church... Danweatherman is not realiable just because he don´t put your Athens there? Ask him where he collected those data... If you are so sure, of yourself... By the way more sites refer Riodades with 50,5. Why you don´t google it. To finish I just want to let you know, that I love Greece, it´s a very particular country, specially known for it´s beautifull nights on the summer. But talking about the warmest places of europe, you should travel and research more, my friend. No one said, though, that one place is better than the other. It´s just different. Chills... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.230 ( talk) 01:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Bullshit : La Puebla de Cazalla 48.8C is WRONG, as clearly cited by IMN of Spain, the record is a wrong data.48.5C recorded at Catenanuova, in Sicily is the CORRECT European record. Nothing in Europe can be compared with the widespread brutal heatwave of August 1999 in Sicily, all temperatures both at 850hpa and at the soil and on the air were the highest ever recorded in Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.24.16.80 ( talk) 16:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I think, that some people needs to understand that we now live in the Information Era!! Those old hoaxes around Italy and Greece being the warmest countries in Europe are clearly of the past. Like those 50´s, 60´s films that were filmed in Morocco or Tunisia but entitled as in Italy or Greece. This is all propaganda for who wants attention from tourists. Some want all the attention of the world, others think that have less than they really have and live quite. But this information era is a really good moment for kicking big fat overrated asses. Not only Iberian Peninsula has the biggest temperature records as has the warmest places on average. A scientific study published on an Archaeology Magazine, that included climatology research done in Douro Valley ( Côa Archaeological Park) in Portugal, finnaly put end about if Portugal and Spain do have places that do reach 50ºc or more, do exist or not and the answer was yes! In fact, do easily reach it during the summer daily maximum peaks, in some very remote places, with about well less than 300 mm of rain per year ( there are even drier places there, but the place studied registered that data) like in Côa Valley and especially in Massueime Valley. These places are very far from the sea ( up to 180 kms- 200kms or more), are deprived of refreshing winds by big and consisten mountain systems, are rocky ( heat absorber and slow to get cooler, particularly in chalky areas)and even if so far from the sea are just around 130- 150 m above from the sea level. In fact, are quite steady, being over 30ºc on daily maximum average for months and around 40ºc on average during the warmest month of the year. This area is used by some protected species of vultures,has very important breeding places, because of it´s dry and warm climate that turn their flights much easier to maintain.
http://www.ipa.min-cultura.pt/pubs/R.../folder/01.pdf
In Revista Portuguesa de Arqueologia volume 7.número 1. 2004
Translator may be used.
Did anyone ever had a look on an Atlas Map Book? Iberian Peninsula on it´s mainland is very far from the sea and has lowlands protected by mountains. If someone wants some more data for enlightning or just for curiosity I´m happy to help and provide.
Cheers,
G. Appleton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.213 ( talk) 23:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, finnaly someone has a fist to say something about insults on here. Maybe, too late of course. Right from the beginning that´s happening. No sources were given? Well I said « If someone wants some more data for enlightning or just for curiosity I´m happy to help and provide.»
So if you want any source, please do specify what you clearly WANT. Or about what. I´m not flaggering Seville record because of course that I know that wasn´t recorded at official or at accepted conditions. I was just alerting people, for some facts. I´m not worried about if people put as european record Sicily, Athens, Riodades, Seville, Romania,etc... In fact I love those countries I have some relatives from some of those countries , but I just think that people who post here are a bit drastic on their claims. I see Lybia records hardly above ( or even below...) european records, so of course I´m not a fool to think that in europe is warmer because of that. I did presented some studies conducted on the low inland of Iberian peninsula, the place that I believe to be one of the warmest in europe. In fact, I don´t see which other region in europe, would have the best conditions to hit records than the warmest far inland low valleys of Iberian Peninsula.
About the link that seems to be reluctant in working, maybe it will work here:
- http://www.meteopt.com/forum/climatologia/mais-de-50-c-em-portugal-1425-17.html
I can quote something that´s there in advance ( it´s in portuguese, please use translator):
«O PAVC localiza-se no Nordeste Português, numa zona também caracterizada pela existência de diversas fronteiras: desde logo a fronteira com Espanha, mas também as divisões administrativas, regionais, naturais e sócio culturais entre a Beira Alta e Trás-os-Montes e Alto Douro. Geomorfologicamente a área do PAVC integra-se na Meseta Ibérica, situando-se mais concretamente na Meseta Setentrional e na bacia hidrográfica do Rio Douro. Esta região possui atributos específicos que contribuem para a existência de um cluster climático, geomorfológico, orográfico e mesmo social, económico e cultural particular. De entre estes atributos destacamos as formações xistosas, o clima seco e quente e de baixa pluviosidade anual, especialmente nas zonas do vale de cotas mais reduzidas (Aubry et al., 2002a, p. 62), aonde no pico do Verão as temperaturas alcançam facilmente os 50ºC ou a pobreza dos solos que determinaram a implantação ao longo dos últimos dois milénios dum modelo de exploração económica do território baseado numa agricultura tradicionalmente assente em 3 grandes monoculturas (oliveira, amendoeira e vinha) adaptadas a estas exigentes condições.».
«Clima: A monitorização da evolução e variabilidade anual, mensal e mesmo diária dos elementos climáticos é de grande importância para a conservação da Arte do Côa. O INAG (Instituto da Água) fornece já os dados relativos à precipitação local, obtidos através das estações de medição de Escalhão e de Castelo Melhor, que permitem calcular quer as médias anuais globais de pluviosidade quer a precipitação abaixo de determinada cota, ou seja no fundo do vale. Por outro lado, faculta ainda, através da estação hidrométrica de Cidadelhe, informações acerca do volume e fluxo do caudal do Côa. Todas estas informações podem ser facilmente acedidas no endereço electrónico do INAG (www.inag.pt) e contribuem decisivamente para definir o contexto climático de intervenção dos trabalhos de conservação da Arte do Côa. Estes dados são contudo insuficientes para a caracterização integral do regime climático regional e local. De facto as informações sobre a temperatura (variações anuais, mensais e diárias entre o fundo do vale e os planaltos adjacentes; entre e nos diversos Núcleos de Arte Rupestre; numa ou em várias superfícies gravadas) são fundamentais para compreender cabalmente os contornos climáticos microlocais e das quais o Programa de Conservação não pode obviamente prescindir. Como tal, foi implantado um sistema de monitorização da temperatura e suas amplitudes que compreende também competências na medição da precipitação e da humidade relativa de modo a complementar o retrato climatérico da região que os dados fornecidos pelo INAG já possibilitam no que diz respeito às duas variáveis referidas.»
Whatever more you want, I´m happy to help and clarify. The IM service uses the Amareleja record, but it accepts that higher values are registered in some parts. It also published a work with June, July and August, daily maximum averages from some parts of Portugal. I can provide if wanted. I also have data from some spanish meteorological stations.
I hope it helps.
Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.218 ( talk) 01:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Some people are not aware that the Attica Basin in Greece is by far the warmest place in Europe.The correct european record THAT HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY AND UNIVERSALLY ACKNOWLEDGED is 48.0 in Athens.The record is peered reviewed and adopted UNIVERSALLY and OFFICIALLY by all the serious sources...simply because the record is undisputed and recorded simultaneously in two suburbs of the Greek capital.In fact the reading was initially 48.7 and 2 years later it was rounded down to 48.0 by the National Observatory of Athens and the Greek meteorological Organisation.All the records are presented before the World Weather Organisation and after tremendous scrutiny the records are established.It takes international publications and peer reviewed data to establish a record!!!The Athenian record has passed all the credibility tests because it comes from TWO OFFICIALLY recording stations of the OFFICIAL Greek authorities!!Catenanuova record is NOT regarded in Italy as official!!Its simple —Preceding
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Attica basin is not the warmest place in Europe, by far. It´s ONE OF THE WARMEST IN SUMMER TEMPERATURES, to be more precise. There are different definitions for being the warmest. Could be on average during the summer, spring, autumn or winter, during the year, because of the highest temperature ever recorded, because of this or that, etc... People should precise in what is the warmest... Regarding specifically the oficial record, yes, it´s in Athens, but this doesn´t mean that´s the warmest place in Europe. Changing subject,that scientific study done in Coa Valley, even if it doesn´t hold oficial records, it´s a quite interesting one about an almost unknown and wild region, that surely must have quite warm places. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.214 ( talk) 21:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes you are right,I am sorry.I meant to say the WARMEST AREA OF EUROPE DURING THE SUMMER ON AVERAGE (MEAN SUMMER TEMPERATURES) according to comparative climatology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weatherextremes ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
The information for this record is out of date. Mt. Baker set the seasonal snowfall record in 1998-99. http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/1999/wsnorcrd.htm. As this is a pretty reputable source and a rather well known (at least in Washington State) weather statistic, I'm going to go ahead and change it.
5300abc 04:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Goodnightmush 00:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Isn't Hawaii part of the United States? bibliomaniac 1 5 04:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
A good new paper has an explanation of weather records and problems thereof, as well as an authoritative list of quite a few records for the US and globe, respectively:
Evolauxia 14:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Some of these figures are rounded up on conversion. Though the difference is usually trivial, I would recommend putting the original units of measure first and the conversion in parenthesis.
The temperature of 50.0C at Seville is complete crap. Already 70 years ago everybody in Spain know about that instrument was on the top of the Seville cathedral and that recorded has been discountinued since 1934 and the instrument changed. I cannot understand how people can still believe to this joke, everybody laugh at this joke. Just check the official temperatures of Spain, even a 2 years old baby knows spanish recorded is 47.8c at Murcia. 48.5C is the real european record which was at catenanuova ,province of Enna, region of Sicily, during the famous terrible heat wave of August 1999.
the 56.7C at the Death Valley is completely out of reality of about 8F, for 3 reasons: 1-the shelter was indequated 2-the instrument was too close to the ground (only 1 meter) 3- at the moment of the reading a sandstorm sent the ghot sand to the instrument and altered the reading. There is nobody who has a little knowledgment who takes that ridicolous reading seriosuly. The official record (and world record) is 53.9C recorded 4 times , July 1960, July 1998, July 2005 and July 2007. I dont know who made thsi page, but he must be a stunning ignorant about climatology. 57.7c at El Azizia ? What a pity on September 13th 1915 it was RAINING at El Azizia and all neighbour stations was recording low temperatures. Obviosuly,allover Libya no place ever recorded temperature to 50C in the history. People who doesn t know anything in climatology shouldn t edit these pages and spread their ignorance to others.
The 54.0C at Tirats Tsvi is also incorrect: the correct data is 53.7c. It seems the festival of the mistakes.
And someone with a bit of knowledge would know that iberian peninsula (portugal and spain...) has places warm enough to reach 50ºc or even a bit more, even if that seville record is an hoax. Anyway does spanish meterological service has any meteorological data about that day in seville? About death valley, 53 is easy... I bet that were registered values above that in some valley locations. Maybe you are right, that 56 is an hoax... However,by far, not impossible to be registered in Death Valley. About Lybia not too much to be said. Any child would know too, that this country can be massively warm specially on the interior ( not on the breezy mediterranean coast, for the truth sake!!)exceding very well the 50ºc celsius mark. Though maybe the El azizia record is fake. Now I´m curious how do you know that on El azizia was raining on that day? Did you reached local weather service data? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.219 ( talk) 01:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Well ,you are very BAD INFORMED; Libya has never ever recorded more than 49C.: the OFFICIAL highest temperature according to Libyan Meteorological Service is 48.9C at Jalo, during the terrible heat wave of June 1961.
I mean official temperature by Libyan Meteo Service ,not the temperature written by a drunk colonizer italian 85 years ago... —Preceding
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I´m not bad informed, in fact, as I said El Aziziah record is false. But whatever you want to think, Lybia has all the conditions to reach more than 50ºc on the desert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.213 ( talk) 22:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Apart from the completely crap Seville and Portugal temps of 50.0 The Catenanuova temperature is also completely crap as it comes from an non accredited Hydrological station of Sicily which the Italian Meteorology Service DOES NOT regard as official.The OFFICIAL record is in ATHENS.It is well known that the Greek capital and its wider metropolitan area within the Attica Basin and the Triasion Basin is the warmest place in Europe.Athens metropolitan area has been consistently giving the highest temperature readings of Europe.Apart from the OFFICIAL 48.0 European record in Athens again in 2007 the metropolitan area of Athens recorded a 47.5 OFFICIALLY.People need to be informed about the greater Athens dynamics in terms of extreme summer temperatures.Within Greece it is well known that ironically the Greek capital is the warmest place of the country and Europe.
Athens and Attica aren´t the warmest place in Europe, are ONE of the warmest european places during the summer. Being the warmest overall implies different seasons, variants,etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.214 ( talk) 21:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Death Valley or Al 'Aziziyah? Confirmation please.-- sin-man 07:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
{Unsigned} In what Tom Skilling describes as "a stunning retraction, [in] a soon to be published article in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) Commission on Climatology has rejected" the Al 'Aziziyah Libya measurement "based on five major concerns- problems with the instrumentation, an inexperienced observer, unrepresentative microclimate at the site, poor relationship to surrounding temperatures and poor comparison to subsequent temperatures there." See http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/2012/07/ask-tom-why-134-in-death-valley-california-on-july-10-1913.html Once the article is published, the reference should be updated. {/Unsigned} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.240.7 ( talk) 20:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
68,9 as temperature record?
Who believes on this? —Preceding
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83.174.37.219 (
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The Guinness book of Records in the 1980s and 90s related a freak heatwave in Coimbra, Portugal that reputedly reached 70 degrees C. While easy to dismiss, and obviously not verifiable enough to hold a record, in the context of other 'heatbursts' it should not be discarded entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AbrahamCat ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
That Libyan record has been officialy rejected, in part because the Libyan National Meteorological Center doesn't accept it: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89. Vicki Rosenzweig ( talk) 14:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Highest UK temperature has major conversion error: I'm looking at the highest temperature ever recorded for the UK and it states that it took place in Faversham, Kent in 2003. It gives the temperature as 70C or 103F. That's completely ridiculous since 70C is NOT the same as 101.3F! In fact, 70C is 158F. Wait! That's odd. I just looked at the page on my other computer and it is now showing the Faversham reading as 38.5C/101.3F which is an accurate conversion. I suppose someone made an edit and then it got backed out again; I must have just seen it before it got backed out. Sorry for the false alarm.
76.71.44.245 ( talk) 19:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Highest Canadian temperature has two major problems: First, it doesn't say Canada in the first column of the table. Saskatchewan is indisputably in Canada but the country name is completely blank in the table. Second, no temperature is cited! I'm fixing that right now using the temperatures at the supporting link.
76.71.44.245 (
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Alright, this makes absolutely no sense. 38cm is MORE THAN A FOOT. Is this confirmed? Are we sure it's not a paper snowflake? It doesn't make sense to me. Besides, the record is from the 1800's. Can we confirm this? -- Superpika66 14:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I 2nd the motion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.128.102.66 ( talk) 03:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
The cold record of 45.8 negative degrees in Germany is not official.
Corrected the error sarindam7 ( talk) 10:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
On page 10 of the August 5, 2008 "New York Daily News", a photograph of a soldier holding a thermometer (actually reading 136 F) is captioned as being "138 unimaginable degrees" in Afghanistan. Pretty impressive temperature, especially given that 136 F is considered the record. 68.32.48.59 ( talk) 22:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 22:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Australia just had a heatwave and this page shuld be updated accordingly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.9.21 ( talk) 03:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It is unclear to me why New Zealand is listen (~42degC) under warmest temperatures. I can think of one day last year alone when the temperature was ~47C in Victoria, Australia, and I do not believe this is even a record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.83.203 ( talk) 10:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The data are from BoM only. Before 1927 weather data were kept by the states, and these early reliable records have been deliberately ignored. The record high surface temp for Australia is 53.1C Cloncurry,16 Jan 1889. SA records claim 53.4C in 1854, but exact details are elusive. State surveyors were well trained and competent in such measurements. In fact, state surveyors were required to have appropriate degrees in the 1800s. BoM observers and forecasters were not required to have degrees until the late 60s. Many BoM employees became mature-age students at this time. The notion that old state records are no good is simply politically motivated (by BoM) rubbish. The data kept at U. East Anglia for the IPCC has been manipulated and "error corrected" in precisely this fashion. My comparisons show that IPCC data bases for many Aus data have been tampered with. The Darwin temp records are the most obvious tampering. There is no room in science for lying. There is no room for various IPCC data bases and IPCC scientists. 220.240.250.122 ( talk) 10:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
http://smn.cna.gob.mx/productos/normales/estacion/son/NORMAL26165.TXT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.135.59 ( talk) 07:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Bill Malloy ( talk) 22:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC) I don't think the source cited here is reliable--at least not for earlier dates. Previous comment is correct. The cited source is just for one city in Sonora. No clue as to how the conclusion it was a national record was arrived at. In particular, the corresponding page for Mexicali BC ( http://smn.cna.gob.mx/climatologia/Max-Extr/00002/00002034.TXT) gives a high of 61.5 (presumably Celsius) on Jul 13 1949. We could update the world record with that. More recent data seems more reasonable, but I haven't checked much and don't have anything to check against.
Big problem here. If we're using surface land pressures unadjusted to sea level, then the average pressure in Flagstaff, Arizona is 790 hPa! There are likely places in the Himalayas with pressures on the order of 300 hPa. Either have a pressure section for tornadoes, adjust the SD record to sea level, or use the 870 hPa sea level pressure during Tip. Oy gevalt. Thegreatdr ( talk) 22:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I've discovered an entry in the May, 1949 Monthly Weather Review mentioning 8 and a half inch diameter hail! Soccer ball sized hail! It is on page 2 of the given link; May 13 at 4:55 pm. The hail appears to have occured on rural farmland outside the town of Panhandle. -- Hurricane ERIC - Class of '08: XVII Maius MMVIII 20:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Since all other records are of air temperature at standard height with standard instruments, there is no reason to list the satellite measurements of 70C+, except maybe as a footnote. Doing so would be inconsistent, and against the myriad sources which name Al 'Aziziyah as the official world record temperature. Please do not change it unless a new record is recognized. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 07:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
The temperature in Al 'Aziziyah was recorded on September 13, 1922 not 1915 maybe that would change a bit!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.67.15.248 ( talk) 04:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Seven years of satellite temperature data show that the Lut Desert in Iran is the hottest spot on Earth. The Lut Desert was hottest during 5 of the 7 years, and had the highest temperature overall: 70.7°C (159.3°F) in 2005, as measured by NASA’s Aqua satellite.. (NASA maps by Jesse Allen and Robert Simmon, using MODIS data from Mildrexler et al., 2011.
In five of the seven years—2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2009—the highest surface temperature on Earth was found in the Lut Desert. The single highest LST recorded in any year, in any region, occurred there in 2005, when MODIS recorded a temperature of 70.7°C (159.3°F)—more than 12°C (22°F) warmer than the official air temperature record from Libya.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/HottestSpot/page2.php
https://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2013/11/Dasht-e_Lut_salt_desert_Iran
I have removed Most snowfall depth:11.82 m (38.8 ft); Mount Ibuki, Shiga Prefecture, Japan, February 14, 1927. This seems to be the same as either "Most in one-year period" or "Most in one season (July 1–June 30)". Please explain if I am mistaken. Gabriel Kielland ( talk) 14:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you read the section above entitled "Highest temperature on Earth", and my rebuttals there, but here is a quick summary:
The surface temperature bit should not be mentioned. Even if it were, the Iran surface temperature is not a record, and NASA does not say it is a record as you suggest: they say it was the it was the highest surface temperature recorded by that satellite over the few years it was operating. Surface temperatures of over 200 degrees F have been recorded in Death Valley, USA in the past, and even THOSE temperatures are not claimed to be a record.
Second point: Records mentioned on this page can not just be "the worst we can find". They have to be clearly stated as a record by some official meteorological agency. I could not even find an unofficial agency which claimed the 1972 Iran blizzard was the deadliest ever, so it can't be on this page. The same point holds for the temperature records: it appears you have just gone through a bunch of weather stations and listed the highest/lowest you could find. This does not work. We need the Iran Meteorological Organization, or some equivalent official body, to come out and say that some event was a record.
Thirdly: you are probably right that we should mention the standard conditions by which records are kept. I am currently trying to find sources.
Okay, that wasn't as quick a summary as I originally intended. But I hope this puts the matter to rest. As always, thank you for your contributions, and you can ask me here or on my talk page if you have any questions. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 18:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How about this one? Dasht-e Lut has been identified as the hottest point on earth with a temperature of 70.7 degrees C (159 degrees F) recorded in 2004 and 2005 by MODIS of NASA. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.126.161 ( talk) 13:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I found the Iranian state news article on this subject quite amusing, as it makes no sense whatsoever. Sounds like something got lost in translation... - RunningOnBrains( talk) 01:25, 25 May 2010 (UTC) --- 70C is not a correct real air temperature.Highest temperatures recorded in the Luv are around 53-54C. Satellite data are still unfit to give correct temperatures at 2 meters above the ground.
Those claims are fake. 48,5ºC is not regarded as valid measure in Italy. About the Italian record, as a response to an e-mail:
Dear Sir,
with reference to your e-mail of March 25th 2010, we inform you that the extremes of maximum temperatures resulting from our official archive have been measured by the weather station of Bari Palese(ENAV) on July 2007,with 45.6°C, followed by Catania Sigonella(AM) with 45.4°C, registered on July 1998.These stations belong to our net, managed by Italian Air ForceMeteorological Service and ENAV (Civil Aviation), and follow the strict standards required by WMO (World Meteorological Organization) on measurement procedures.
With Best Regards,
Lt. Filippo Maimone
I Sec. Climatology CNMCA - Italian Air Force Met ServicePratica di Mare, Pomezia (ROME) Tel. +39 06 9129 3895 Fax. +39 06 9129 3254
So yeah, this is an official claim by someone in the business. Not the stuff you posted randomly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.152.118.231 ( talk) 21:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes I agree the WMO does not give the record to this city in Italy but to Athens.There is a link as well for it.I will try to find it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.86.191 ( talk) 21:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Croatia record date wrong
The source you listed has wrong information. The Ploce record was set in August 1981, not August 1998.
http://klima.hr/razno/publikacije/klima2008.pdf
The date is correct and the month also, the value also, but the year is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.213.168 ( talk) 10:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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Could someone point out to me why exactly there is a "Contiguous United States" entry? I mean I see the point, since Alaska has the record, but then we might as well add "Parts of Indonesia below Thailand" or "Parts of India below China". It's completely redundant and unnecessary. I'm removing it a week from now if there is no protestation. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 23:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I also find "Most Rain in 42 Minutes" quite unnecessary. Although, reading the article for Holt, it says that it retains the fastest accumulation of a foot of precipitation in recorded history. So, I think the "42 minutes" should be removed, and have the record moved to the top of the section to say "Fastest rain accumulation (1 ft)", or something. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Regarding the highest temperature recorded for Iraq (in Basra); per the Weather Channel's website (www.weather.com), a high temperature of 127 degrees Fahrenheit is shown for August 3, 2010 (under the "monthly data" tab, once that city's weather is selected (under "Al Basrah, Iraq"); as to the reliability of this information -- when compared to other resources referenced for this page -- I cannot say, as I make no claim to having expertise in the field of meteorology . . . merely wanted to pass my observation along for consideration -- thanks. 76.1.177.90 ( talk) 03:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Today's Wiki Main Page "On This Day":
"1887 – The largest-ever snowflakes, measuring 15 in (38 cm) in diameter and 8 in (20 cm) thick, were observed in Fort Keough, Montana, US."
I find this very dubious, but putting that aside for a moment, AN EIGHT-INCH THICK SNOWFLAKE? 15" X 8" isn't a snowflake - that's a chunk of ice. How was such a thing formed? HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
I've noticed that someone has added a long list of records from http://www.mherrera.org/records.htm. I for one have doubts about the reliability of this site. However, this leads me to a new problem: Reading through Jeff Masters' blog entry which lists all the new 2010 records, I note that he lists Maximiliano Herrera as a source; the man who publishes the above website. My real questions are: who is this person, and why should we consider him an official temperature record-keeper? How does he compile these records? And most importantly: can the records listed there be considered official? - RunningOnBrains( talk) 21:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes my question as well.The European record has been changed YET AGAIN .I have however restored it.Please refrain from changing it and stick to the official. Plus the whole article looks extremely poor with all the herrera references.Could someone restore it to previous standards and rid us of this herrara guy ? Weatherextremes ( talk) 10:29, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
So what?We do not care what self proclaimed climatologists are on about.We are interested in official authorities of respective countries and the WMO. Weatherextremes ( talk) 05:32, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
This self proclaimed climatologist likes to insult real meteorologists on facebook, if you confront him he goes nuts and turns into a vulgar “animal”, particularly on the Weather Service page from Costa Rica, where he bullies the real meteorologists and degrades women with indecent insults. So yes, I wouldn’t trust this person and his own country DOES NOT recommend him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by onnne ( talk) 16:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Turkey isn't in North America. Period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.181.167 ( talk) 19:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
If I sort the high temperature record table by descending temperature, the first three are:
−13.6 °C (7.5 °F)
57.8 °C (125.4 °F)
56.7 °C (134 °F)
Obviously, the first record should be the last record, but more importantly, either the 2nd, 3rd, or both have jacked up unit conversions. 2nd shows higher Celsius and lower Fahrenheit temperature than the third. I'm no math major, but I'm pretty sure that's impossible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.31.211.242 ( talk) 18:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Same basic problem with the low temperature records table There's no way −82.8 °C and −82.5 °C both convert to −116.5 °F, unless the precision there is 0.5 F, in which case that should be noted somewhere as it is misleading otherwise.
Ack! And the next thing I see in this article shows a record -0.00 mm of rainfall. There's no such thing as negative zero rainfall. This article needs some serious QA review and cleanup.
The article lists 7.8 degrees as the coldest temperature recorded in Malaysia at Cameron highlands. This must be inaccurate since Mount Kinabalu is Malaysia's highest point at 4100m and the temperature often goes below freezing at the summit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.2.25 ( talk) 12:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Recently, an editor has been changing the location and temperature of the "hottest place on Earth". While that may be fine if the source is reliable, I'm worried about a few things:
1) The current high temp record cites a Mexican governmental "database project" page ( http://smn.cna.gob.mx/climatologia/Max-Extr/00026/00026086.TXT) as its source, but I can find no explanation of the data on the page (it's raw data, with Spanish headings and no explanations).
2) The NOAA site http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalextremes.html, quoted several times, contains no mention of the claimed high temp record in Sonora, Mexico.
3) The editor that inserted the data (more than once) will not discuss the issue and (so far) refuses to explain his/her edits.
Does anyone have any thoughts? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't this at least be mentioned in the article? The main article about the outbreak states that there were 353 tornadoes recorded in the outbreak including 206 on April 27, which is significantly higher than the 148 recoded in the 1974 outbreak. I realize there may be some discrepancies because of weaker tornadoes in the 1974 outbreak, but based on the articles it would still appear that the 2011 outbreak had the most recorded tornadoes in a 24-hour period. TornadoLGS ( talk) 03:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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In the section discussing tornadoes, there is a statement starting with "did you know. . . the elephants there go to mars for the day." This is obviously a prank.
70.99.180.162 ( talk) 17:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Most in 60 minutes: 305 mm (12.0 in) in 42 minutes. Holt, Missouri, United States, 22 June 1947.[23]
The caption under the hailstone image says "A picture of the Aurora, Nebraska hailstone, measured at 18.75 inches (47.6 cm) in circumference." but the image clearly shows a 7" hailstone, and the image description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hailstone.jpg says "At the time of this photo, this was the largest hailstone ever recovered, 7 inches in diameter and almost 19 inches in circumference. This record has since been surpassed" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.141.166 ( talk) 20:48, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
The bullet list has data which conflicts with the table. For example, the very first item is in conflict: the first bullet says the 1 minute record is 1.23 inches yet the first table entry says 1.5 inches. Which is it? A normal reader will spot this inconsistency immediately. The 12 hour entries are also in conflict. I notice that ONLY RAIN HAS BOTH A TABLE AND A BULLET LIST OF RECORDS. As a quick and easy correction, I suggest removing either the table or the bullet list so Rain is CONSISTENT with the rest of this Wikipedia article. I cannot fix it because I do not know which data set is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by N0w8st8s ( talk • contribs) 07:56, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
What about humidity? That should make a distinction between an arid desert and a cloud forest... Can anyone post records for lowest and highest humidity? Undead Herle King ( talk) 08:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
IT'S OFFICIAL. The WMO (World Meteorological Organization) this morning de-certified the record for the world's highest surface temperature, held for 90 years by El Azizia, Libya. The now official hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth was the 56.7°C (134°F) reading taken at Furnace Creek (née Greenland Ranch) in Death Valley, California, on July 10, 1913. http://wmo.asu.edu/, and http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89 75.147.156.165 ( talk) 13:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Is there a convention for defining national records when a countries name changes, it becomes divided into more countries, or its borders change? Do we then have to search back within those borders to re-define the record? Unless this is carried out diligently this could lead to the number of records increasing over time as more countries are introduced. I have recently changed the lowest temperature record for Bangladesh from 2013 back to 1968 when it was known as East Pakistan. -- Andromedean ( talk) 13:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
For this record, while the WMO does accept it (
source) and it is mentioned in passing in the
El Azizia paper listed as a source for this record, the other
source listed for this record (written by Christopher C. Burt, one of the authors for the above paper) actually disputes this record in the article, giving it a 2/10 for reliability. At the very least, this second source shouldn't be given in such a way as it would appear to support the record - and there should probably be a footnote saying that the record is disputed.
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link Mark ( talk) 16:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't know why someone removed a listing for the record high in Israel (note: I was not the editor who added it in the first place). I hope it's not some political debate or something. Seanette ( talk) 21:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The highest record for Israel is dated 1942; that year the state of Israel did not yet exist. I suggest we include a record after its modern creation in May 1948. Politis ( talk) 16:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
There are some inconsistencies. Indeed many other states are given records pre-dating their formation as independent states. We also have records for regions like Scotland but not for Catalonia or for Flanders. Meanwhile, huge areas like India, US and Russia are treated as one. And there is nothing for the Palestinian territories or Tibet, Kosovo. It may have to do with the (non) availability of data. Either way, it seems more useful to allow for new data to be inserted for new regions. For instance, to treat Alaska as separate from the US and the East Coast as separate from the West Coast, etc. Politis ( talk) 07:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I found a problem with the formatting in the ====Highest temperatures ever recorded==== table on this page. The column headings in the table allow page readers to sort the temperature records (in ascending or descending order) by "'Temperature'", "'Location'", and "'Date'" (the three sortable columns in the table). To sort the records by "'Location'", for example, viewers click the sort arrow that appears next to the word "'Location'" in the top row (the heading row) of the table.
The problem occurs when I sort the "'Temperature'" column. In the default view of the table, the first data row (just below the column headings) displays the highest temperature ever recorded. The row reads "North America (World Record)" then "56.7 degrees C" then "Furnace Creek Ranch" then "1913-07-10". However, when I click the sort arrow in the ""Temperature'" column (to re-sort the table to show temperature records in "ascending order" (from lowest to highest temps), the top row displays as "Antarctica" then "14.6 degrees C" then "Vanda Station" then "1974-01-05". The problem is that the temperature of 14.6 degrees C is ""NOT"" the lowest temperature ever recorded, because this same table includes a record that reads "South Pole" then "-12.3 degrees C" then "Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station" then "2011-12-25". (Aside: a world low temp record makes a great Christmas gift!) You will see THAT row (that temperature record) displayed at the top of the table if you click the "'Temperature'" sort order again, to move from a "lowest-to-highest" order to a "highest to lowest" order.
So, the formatting problem with sorting is that the "'Temperature'" column sorts all of the "numerically positive" temperature records correctly, but does ""NOT"" correctly incorporate the (there is only one) "numerically negative" temperature record into that list.
This problem also occurs in the ====Lowest temperatures ever recorded==== table on this page, because the low temperature records also include both numerically positive ("above 0 degrees C") temperature records and numerically negative ("below 0 degrees C") temperature records.
In short, in the two temperature records tables on this page, the Wikipedia sort algorithm (or whatever it's called) does not correctly account for both positive and negative numerical values when it sorts data in ascending and/or descending order. And I don't know how to change this. Perhaps it's a matter of the data being sorted as "textual" rather than as "numerical" data--but I don't know enough about how Wikipedia's sorting works to be able to address this myself. Can one of you who follow this page fix this problem, or is it something that should be pushed up to a Wikipedia administrator (or to someone who can tweak the sort algorithm)?
Cheers, Kurt B.
Drtheuth ( talk) 17:52, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the relevance of the 'Dolines' is in this link? Should this go in as a minimum record for Italy?
Busa Nord di Fradusta (Italy) min. -49.6 New national record low for Italy (for the dolines) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andromedean ( talk • contribs) 07:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Temperatures in London rose to 92.6 degrees as recorded by a reporter in his bag, so out of the shade-I know it wasn't reported by a weather station because the area affected by intense heat was too small but it was clear the temperature was the highest recorded ever considering how a reporter fried eggs, tiles broke off and a car started the melt, which is virtually impossibly under any temperatures previously recorded.What is the point in this article if it doesn't account for all weather that takes place.Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKIQdvEOzY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.1.133.156 ( talk) 17:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Should this article make mention of the new record noted at Lowest temperature recorded on Earth? It is admittedly of lower quality than the Vostok reading because it was remote-sensed by satellite and therefore has no official status, but does this preclude even a mere mention, say, in a footnote? After all, other pages about temperature and temperature extremes do mention it. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 19:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
There is no support for this record, other than a text webpage with a number on it. All national weather organizations (US, Mexico) reflect the 52/125.6 temperature in Mexicali as the national official record high. The WMO now recognizes the Furnace Creek 134F as the official world record. There are many, many reports of higher temperatures, none of which are accepted by official meteorological organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.51.6 ( talk) 06:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
The claimed high temperature is 54 C. The entire territory is near the Mediterranean Sea. The high temperature is claimed to be higher than the highest temperatures in the middle of deserts far from the sea in the hottest parts of the world, such as the Sahara, Arabia or Australia. In my opinion this 54 C record is bullshit. It is simply not possible in terms of climate. Palestine is not hotter than the hottest parts of the world. Probably some "Israelis" have falsified the records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.103.168 ( talk) 22:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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What kind of fool did this table? But It is not only Spain, others like Denmark and Belgium are in Europe.
The highest temperature recorded in South America should be 48.9 °C (120.0 °F), which was recorded at Rivadavia, Salta, not 49.1 °C (120.4 °F), in Villa de María del Río Seco. This is incorrect Most sources, including the World Meteorological Organization recognizes this value (it is not disputed and not under any ongoing investigations). I am bit unsure about the lowest temperature though. Most sources, including WMO indicate the record low of −32.8 °C (−27.0 °F) in Sarmiento, Chubut, Argentina. Ssbbplayer ( talk) 02:51, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
With the two sources for the Record temp in USA of 134F. 1 source states that the record is due to superheated sand caused by a sandstorm. The second source states that the record is most likely incorrect. Should this record have a notation that the record is unreliable?
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The asterisk note under the highest temperature table now says "Temperature record may be unreliable according to Christopher Burt." Burt has been writing on the weather underground site about the reliability of temperature records since at least 2010, but it's hard to believe that he's the only one who doubts the indicated records. Indeed, the climatologist William T. Reid published a thorough story in Burt's blog just this past Monday. Burt's prodding and blogs led to the official dismissal of the Libyan world record, so my guess is the 134ºF won't stand "officially" for very long anymore either.
The highest temperature in Israel is a no-brainer, as the paper record clearly shows the 54ºC was a simple misreading of 53ºC (though given the width of the line 52ºC-52.5ºC is more realistic). No idea why this is still in any record lists.
Burt dismisses basically all records measured by the French in the 1930s in North Africa as "older recordings by colonial stations [using] thermometers and shelters that probably cannot be accepted today". I believe nearby weather stations did not record any unusually high temps in each case of a purported record. Note that the Tunisian record was not endorsed by the WMO report in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society; the paper was an official report on the Libya record and at the end they simply write that the torch has apparently been passed to Death Valley for the world (see above) and Tunisia for the African record, without verifying the reliability of either. I recommend that reference to be deleted from the table.
On the other hand, for Europe, we have a lower temperature in the table than Burt accepts. He wrote in 2010 "The highest reliably measured temperature in Europe is 48.5C (119.3F) recorded at Catenanuova, Sicily, Italy on Aug. 10, 1999. This has recently been confirmed as authentic by the Italian Meteorological Service (Air Force)." Perhaps that authentication can be dug up. Afasmit ( talk) 22:09, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
I realized fairly quickly that Papua New Guinea is not represented here, and I am sure several other countries are missing. Nor was I aware that, for instance, Greenland was part of North America - its traditional associations have been with Europe. Similarly, Madagascar seems to be missing from these charts, while North Korea has had a minimum temperature but no maximum.
Finally, I realize that it would be somewhat arbitrary but a chart of the year's maxima/minima have been recorded would be a valuable addition to this page for the reader. Anyone out there up to that? Ambiguosity ( talk) 14:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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So let's check the real sources for raw data, not blogs from wunderground: Ahvaz Airport in Iran, June 29th, 2017. They report 54 C in the METAR message from 16h51' and 17h00 local time. SOURCE: https://rp5.ru/Weather_archive_in_Ahvaz_(airport),_METAR We know that airports don't report decimals, so we cannot take this as valid. Then we have the Ahvaz regular/normal weather station which is registered under WMO. In the SYNOP message from 19h30 local time from June 29th, they report +53,7 C as maximum temperature. For 16h30 local time they report 52,7 C, so it is plausible. I believe that we shouldn't consider rounded values from METAR messages, for the real temperature could be as well as 53,5 C, but also 54,4 C. What do you guys think? Dextercioby ( talk) 08:55, 14 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dextercioby ( talk • contribs) 11:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
On July 13th, the local/national weather station of Montoro Vega Armijo (5361X) reported a maximum temperature of 47,3 C, which somebody used to change on the article page the absolute record for Spain from the old 47,8 C of Murcia from 29 VII 1876 to this new value. I took the liberty to add the only reference for this reading (the Kachelmann website), but I am pretty sure the Spanish still consider the old record of 141 years ago as being valid, so, unless this heat wave won't deliver at least 47,9 C, we normally have no reason to consider a change in the table. This weather station in Montoro is not registered by AEMET under WMO, as it would normally appear in the listing on the OSCAR platform. Dextercioby ( talk) 09:13, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The record was previously listed as 47.2°C in Murcia on 4 July 1994, however due to reports which have been confirmed to be correct by the UK Met Office (a reputable source), the value was changed 2A02:C7F:C814:7F00:D98E:90CC:BB7B:B416 ( talk) 21:40, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Some known user replaced the Kachelmann source (raw data from SYNOP/BUFR messages issued by stations) I had placed and the original daily report on the AEMET website with an article in the El Pais newspaper claiming this is a "secondary source". Why? Is the newspaper an official, reputable source? Dextercioby ( talk) 13:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
The lowest recorded temperature in Israel is in the Golan Heights, which the international community considers occupied and is disputed. Should there be any sort of marking to indicate this? 'List of elevation extremes by country' shows two entries: the first from the Israeli point of view and the second from the international point of view, so this seems like what we should do here. Oiygg ( talk) 21:44, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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The article currently lists "Highest overnight low temperature". This differs from the highest daily low, which would include cooler hours from two different days (one starting at midnight, another ending at the next midnight). CNN (and perhaps others) has reported a new record highest daily low -- see https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/hottest-low-temperature-quriyat-oman-wxc/index.html . Would it be appropriate to add a new row for "Highest daily low"? Note that this new article actually specifies two records: highest low in a 24 hour period (which might or might not start at midnight), plus highest low over a 51 hour period, which by definition must include at least one standard day (midnight to midnight). -- Larry/Traveling_Man ( talk) 17:41, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I reverted the new Scottish temperature record of 33.2°C because it was rejected by the Met Office (BBC News). Therefore, it stands once again at 32.9°C. -- Gerrit C U T E D H 22:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I am neutral, but am listing here because the merger proposal was made on 22 December 2018 and has attracted no comment from the nominator or anyone else. It could otherwise hang around for ever. Narky Blert ( talk) 11:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Commonwealth Bay, Antartica, is considered the windiest place on Earth, with an average annual wind speed is 50 mph. We should include this place to the wind speeds record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GS-216.1993 ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Antarctica Record is fake news: They measured the full sun temperature instead of shadow temperature: https://www.lameteo.org/index.php/news/3696-record-de-chaleur-en-antarctique-le-vrai-du-faux — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD5:FA7C:0:7C2F:6206:5E14:42CF ( talk) 07:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn’t that hurricane be listed for the highest wind speed? --Comment by Selfie City ( talk about my contributions) 02:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
The currently listed record for most snowfall in a 24 period is 2.56m for Capracotta, Italy, on 5 March 2015. This attracted a lot of media immediately after the event, but a week later in this USA Today story it seems the claims were overblown, so to speak:
Despite gobs of initial media attention, that total may have been wildly inflated. Officially, the town picked up "only" about 3 feet of snow, which was then blown around by strong winds into massive snowdrifts, greatly exaggerating the totals.
Wantok ( toktok) 04:29, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
The bogus 1913 Death Valley entry should be deleted and replaced with one of the modern, reliable extremes. Scientists examined 1913 records recently and determined they are impossible to occur and most likely a falsified by inept caretaker as they fail statistical, meteorological and geographical scrutiny at once: https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html (this is different to the debunking link already on this site, examining Death Valley record keeping in particular)
I do not think the current record in hottest temperature is confirmed by the WMO yet just like the recent record in Italy, I think the old one should be kept for now. Maxime12346 ( talk) 23:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
AEMET came publicly on their website and on Twitter with 47,4 C, after initial raw data from Saturday showed only 47,2 C. I think we should keep the Spain one. There won't be any WMO involvement, they do not look into national heat/cold records, only in the continental ones. As for Sicily, it's a different enchilada: there were wild vegetation fires not too far away from Floridia (Siracusa province, where this agro-meteo w.s. is located) on that day, so an inspection of NASA/NOOA satellite records by WMO + possible imperfect radiation coating on the temperature sensors could/should disqualify it. (Dextercioby, 06:34 UTC, 17.08.2021)
Upon checking the citation for Chad, I discovered a rather complex situation involving wrong citations for a number of countries' maximum temperature records. I've mostly fixed it now (I hope!) but there's too much to cover in an edit summary so I'll detail it here:
Dendrite1 ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
There have been several reverts by an user who calls himself sfaube. He or she is a new user and has so far only edited in this article, and the only activity thereof is reverting edits of other users. I suggest, sfaube, that you stop that as vandalism is frowned upon in the Wikipedia and might lead to you being reported. Maxl ( talk) 12:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
When reading the information I noticed that many sentences didn’t add up and had grammar errors I don’t know what happened but I added Egypt temperature record and it’s disappeared 2A02:A44C:6682:1:B96D:5803:2EAE:EA59 ( talk) 14:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
This source: [1] suggests that Ireland’s hottest day on record was 16 July 1876 33.5 °C (92.3 °F), instead of 26 June 1887 33.3 °C (91.9 °F).
Is the source valid? Should we change Ireland’s heat record? Egghead2000 ( talk) 00:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
This article ( https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/06/may-2023-was-the-worlds-third-warmest-may-on-record/) states that Chad has set an all time record high and that Myanmar and Cyprus have hit all time record lows. Tajjc ( talk) 20:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Should the table entry for Cyprus therefore be moved to Asia? The wikipedia entry for the Geography of Cyprus states this, and the main Cyprus page describes it as geographically in Asia, it is only culturally and politically in Europe. Weather and climate comes under the Geography section in Wikipedia country articles. Weatherman22 ( talk) 18:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
There is a possibility of a new dew point record being recorded at Qeshm Dayrestan International Airport in Iran. The dew point was at 97 degrees F, which is 2 degrees about the highest recorded dew point temperature in 2003 in Saudi Arabia. The heat index value is tied at 178 degrees F. [5] https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1691596872903979036 I think this record should be changed if it has been verified. 47.12.180.193 ( talk) 23:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, can we protect the page from vandalism? Allow only members of many years of WP to make additions/changes? Dextercioby ( talk) 21:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I know the WMO still excepts this record, but almost every weather historian agrees it is unreliable just like the rest of the extremely high temperatures in Africa measured in colonial times. I think this should be removed from the list Gopher7923 ( talk) 18:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello, on February 16, 2021 in Hungary an absolute minimum temperature of -35.5°C was measured in Bükk Platteau, which surpasses the previous record of -35°C from 1940. These are the sources: [6] https://mkweather.com/hungary-355c-all-time-national-record-2021/ https://www.heol.hu/helyi-kozelet/2021/02/uj-rekord-minusz-35-es-fel-fokot-mertek-szombaton-a-bukk-fennsikon Rocky20082009 ( talk) 10:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC). Furthermore, in the first ten days of January 2022, -50.6°C were recorded in Busa Riviera at 2634 masl in Italy. This is the source resulting from the association that records the data in the "cold spots": [7]
I think there might be a new record for the country of India for the highest temperature during the recent heat wave. New Delhi had recorded at temperature of 52.9°C (127.22°F). [8] 47.12.180.193 ( talk) 01:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC). The record has to be verified before it becomes official.
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Shouldn't those Fahrenheit temperatures actually be Celsius, not Fahrenheit? It says for the Africa/On Earth that the highest recorded temperature Fahrenheit was 136 degrees, on the Fahrenheit scale that is not even the boiling point of water, and on the Celsius scale it is in the 50's. Though I don't understand this either, my air conditioner seemed to think Fahrenheit was the scale in which water freezes at 0 degrees and boils at 100 as well. What's going on? The snare ( talk) 13:27, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Are you serious? You really believe that the highest recorded temperature would be ABOVE the boiling point??? 85.226.9.236 ( talk) 20:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm no temperature science guy, but I suspect that you perhaps shouldn't rely on your air conditioner for your scientific education; unless it was made in Germany or something - man, those guys are smart. Perhaps you should have a look on the internet to see if maybe somebody's written some kind of information reference database type thing. Y'know something like one of those big clever books that libraries have called encycle-peediayahs or something like that. If there is one, then maybe some people have written articles explaining all those complicated temperature systems. Man, that'd be neat. If you find one, let me know; I could do with a thing like that. But I reckon you must be right about Africa being above boiling point - that's probably why they're always going about about how they don't have any water and stuff. Kodabar ( talk) 01:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Teneriefe air crash is listed at the bottom, i realise this terrible disaster was attributed to various reasons, including fog, but it is certainly not a weather record. Please could someone tell me why this is included —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.13.81.135 ( talk) 00:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Most temperature records reported are completely unrealistic, recorded in non-standard conditions, most records are very old but the world has warmed a lot since than..... Seville 50°C....but Istituto nacional de meteorologia de espana claims that Seville record is 47°C and this is not europe warmest temperature:
http://www.inm.es/web/sup/ciencia/divulga/efemerides/efemerides.html
En muchas publicaciones entre ellas en los “RECORDS GUINNES”, se da como record en España los 51ºC de temperatura registrada en Sevilla el 30 de julio de 1876. Pero este dato se midió con un instrumental instalado en unas condiciones técnicas deficientes, en la cúpula de la Iglesia de la Anunciación, donde estaba el termómetro en una garita tipo facistol, protección conocida también como del tipo Montsouris.
This is just an example.
Europe record is for riodades, portugal: 50,5 in 4 august 1881. In which conditions? I don´t know. But the record is registered and available. It was measured by a meteorological station ( not on a church I guess). If wanted more data about this I can provide. Cordoba or ecija maybe reach around the same on one year or another, who knows? Maybe that 51 is false but how about the other 50 for seville? False too? Any scientific arguments or just some meteorologists opinions?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.219 ( talk) 00:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
STOP adding Riodades 50.5 as europe's highest, The World Meteorological Organization link! nor the "Instituto de Meteorologia, IP Portugal" link! as ratified it, the Portugese record is 47.4 c in 2003 and the spanish is 47.8 c in 1876. The european record is 48.0 c in athens. And stop refering to "dandantheweatherman" it's NOT a reliable source. Dabean ( talk) 02:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I´m seeing that you are furious, about the fact that iberian peninsula mainland valleys are much warmer than you ever thought. Just think a bit, mr, on a low valley at more than 250 km from the nearest sea breeze, surrounded by big mountains, on which the sun radiation is gathered in the «heat consuming» rocky soils, plus a much more near position in relation to North Africa. You have only 13 km of sea separating Iberian Peninsula from Africa, then you have the conditions for a european record. You can easily smell Sahara and even feel the sand from there. So you want to give more credit to Murcia´s 47,8 that was registered in 1876 (!!) just because is below your 48ºc in Athens? La Puebla de Cazalla in Spain registered 48,8, one place in Sicily, claims 48,5. So lots of places claim more than just 48ºc as european record. BY the way, I never saw Athens as having european record, but usually and fairly Seville on the same day (4/8/1881) of Riodades registered 50,0ºc ( just below Riodade´s 50,5). Riodades has a historical and functional meteorological station, while on the Seville case the temperature was measured in a Church... Danweatherman is not realiable just because he don´t put your Athens there? Ask him where he collected those data... If you are so sure, of yourself... By the way more sites refer Riodades with 50,5. Why you don´t google it. To finish I just want to let you know, that I love Greece, it´s a very particular country, specially known for it´s beautifull nights on the summer. But talking about the warmest places of europe, you should travel and research more, my friend. No one said, though, that one place is better than the other. It´s just different. Chills... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.230 ( talk) 01:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Bullshit : La Puebla de Cazalla 48.8C is WRONG, as clearly cited by IMN of Spain, the record is a wrong data.48.5C recorded at Catenanuova, in Sicily is the CORRECT European record. Nothing in Europe can be compared with the widespread brutal heatwave of August 1999 in Sicily, all temperatures both at 850hpa and at the soil and on the air were the highest ever recorded in Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.24.16.80 ( talk) 16:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I think, that some people needs to understand that we now live in the Information Era!! Those old hoaxes around Italy and Greece being the warmest countries in Europe are clearly of the past. Like those 50´s, 60´s films that were filmed in Morocco or Tunisia but entitled as in Italy or Greece. This is all propaganda for who wants attention from tourists. Some want all the attention of the world, others think that have less than they really have and live quite. But this information era is a really good moment for kicking big fat overrated asses. Not only Iberian Peninsula has the biggest temperature records as has the warmest places on average. A scientific study published on an Archaeology Magazine, that included climatology research done in Douro Valley ( Côa Archaeological Park) in Portugal, finnaly put end about if Portugal and Spain do have places that do reach 50ºc or more, do exist or not and the answer was yes! In fact, do easily reach it during the summer daily maximum peaks, in some very remote places, with about well less than 300 mm of rain per year ( there are even drier places there, but the place studied registered that data) like in Côa Valley and especially in Massueime Valley. These places are very far from the sea ( up to 180 kms- 200kms or more), are deprived of refreshing winds by big and consisten mountain systems, are rocky ( heat absorber and slow to get cooler, particularly in chalky areas)and even if so far from the sea are just around 130- 150 m above from the sea level. In fact, are quite steady, being over 30ºc on daily maximum average for months and around 40ºc on average during the warmest month of the year. This area is used by some protected species of vultures,has very important breeding places, because of it´s dry and warm climate that turn their flights much easier to maintain.
http://www.ipa.min-cultura.pt/pubs/R.../folder/01.pdf
In Revista Portuguesa de Arqueologia volume 7.número 1. 2004
Translator may be used.
Did anyone ever had a look on an Atlas Map Book? Iberian Peninsula on it´s mainland is very far from the sea and has lowlands protected by mountains. If someone wants some more data for enlightning or just for curiosity I´m happy to help and provide.
Cheers,
G. Appleton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.213 ( talk) 23:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, finnaly someone has a fist to say something about insults on here. Maybe, too late of course. Right from the beginning that´s happening. No sources were given? Well I said « If someone wants some more data for enlightning or just for curiosity I´m happy to help and provide.»
So if you want any source, please do specify what you clearly WANT. Or about what. I´m not flaggering Seville record because of course that I know that wasn´t recorded at official or at accepted conditions. I was just alerting people, for some facts. I´m not worried about if people put as european record Sicily, Athens, Riodades, Seville, Romania,etc... In fact I love those countries I have some relatives from some of those countries , but I just think that people who post here are a bit drastic on their claims. I see Lybia records hardly above ( or even below...) european records, so of course I´m not a fool to think that in europe is warmer because of that. I did presented some studies conducted on the low inland of Iberian peninsula, the place that I believe to be one of the warmest in europe. In fact, I don´t see which other region in europe, would have the best conditions to hit records than the warmest far inland low valleys of Iberian Peninsula.
About the link that seems to be reluctant in working, maybe it will work here:
- http://www.meteopt.com/forum/climatologia/mais-de-50-c-em-portugal-1425-17.html
I can quote something that´s there in advance ( it´s in portuguese, please use translator):
«O PAVC localiza-se no Nordeste Português, numa zona também caracterizada pela existência de diversas fronteiras: desde logo a fronteira com Espanha, mas também as divisões administrativas, regionais, naturais e sócio culturais entre a Beira Alta e Trás-os-Montes e Alto Douro. Geomorfologicamente a área do PAVC integra-se na Meseta Ibérica, situando-se mais concretamente na Meseta Setentrional e na bacia hidrográfica do Rio Douro. Esta região possui atributos específicos que contribuem para a existência de um cluster climático, geomorfológico, orográfico e mesmo social, económico e cultural particular. De entre estes atributos destacamos as formações xistosas, o clima seco e quente e de baixa pluviosidade anual, especialmente nas zonas do vale de cotas mais reduzidas (Aubry et al., 2002a, p. 62), aonde no pico do Verão as temperaturas alcançam facilmente os 50ºC ou a pobreza dos solos que determinaram a implantação ao longo dos últimos dois milénios dum modelo de exploração económica do território baseado numa agricultura tradicionalmente assente em 3 grandes monoculturas (oliveira, amendoeira e vinha) adaptadas a estas exigentes condições.».
«Clima: A monitorização da evolução e variabilidade anual, mensal e mesmo diária dos elementos climáticos é de grande importância para a conservação da Arte do Côa. O INAG (Instituto da Água) fornece já os dados relativos à precipitação local, obtidos através das estações de medição de Escalhão e de Castelo Melhor, que permitem calcular quer as médias anuais globais de pluviosidade quer a precipitação abaixo de determinada cota, ou seja no fundo do vale. Por outro lado, faculta ainda, através da estação hidrométrica de Cidadelhe, informações acerca do volume e fluxo do caudal do Côa. Todas estas informações podem ser facilmente acedidas no endereço electrónico do INAG (www.inag.pt) e contribuem decisivamente para definir o contexto climático de intervenção dos trabalhos de conservação da Arte do Côa. Estes dados são contudo insuficientes para a caracterização integral do regime climático regional e local. De facto as informações sobre a temperatura (variações anuais, mensais e diárias entre o fundo do vale e os planaltos adjacentes; entre e nos diversos Núcleos de Arte Rupestre; numa ou em várias superfícies gravadas) são fundamentais para compreender cabalmente os contornos climáticos microlocais e das quais o Programa de Conservação não pode obviamente prescindir. Como tal, foi implantado um sistema de monitorização da temperatura e suas amplitudes que compreende também competências na medição da precipitação e da humidade relativa de modo a complementar o retrato climatérico da região que os dados fornecidos pelo INAG já possibilitam no que diz respeito às duas variáveis referidas.»
Whatever more you want, I´m happy to help and clarify. The IM service uses the Amareleja record, but it accepts that higher values are registered in some parts. It also published a work with June, July and August, daily maximum averages from some parts of Portugal. I can provide if wanted. I also have data from some spanish meteorological stations.
I hope it helps.
Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.218 ( talk) 01:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Some people are not aware that the Attica Basin in Greece is by far the warmest place in Europe.The correct european record THAT HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY AND UNIVERSALLY ACKNOWLEDGED is 48.0 in Athens.The record is peered reviewed and adopted UNIVERSALLY and OFFICIALLY by all the serious sources...simply because the record is undisputed and recorded simultaneously in two suburbs of the Greek capital.In fact the reading was initially 48.7 and 2 years later it was rounded down to 48.0 by the National Observatory of Athens and the Greek meteorological Organisation.All the records are presented before the World Weather Organisation and after tremendous scrutiny the records are established.It takes international publications and peer reviewed data to establish a record!!!The Athenian record has passed all the credibility tests because it comes from TWO OFFICIALLY recording stations of the OFFICIAL Greek authorities!!Catenanuova record is NOT regarded in Italy as official!!Its simple —Preceding
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Attica basin is not the warmest place in Europe, by far. It´s ONE OF THE WARMEST IN SUMMER TEMPERATURES, to be more precise. There are different definitions for being the warmest. Could be on average during the summer, spring, autumn or winter, during the year, because of the highest temperature ever recorded, because of this or that, etc... People should precise in what is the warmest... Regarding specifically the oficial record, yes, it´s in Athens, but this doesn´t mean that´s the warmest place in Europe. Changing subject,that scientific study done in Coa Valley, even if it doesn´t hold oficial records, it´s a quite interesting one about an almost unknown and wild region, that surely must have quite warm places. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.214 ( talk) 21:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes you are right,I am sorry.I meant to say the WARMEST AREA OF EUROPE DURING THE SUMMER ON AVERAGE (MEAN SUMMER TEMPERATURES) according to comparative climatology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weatherextremes ( talk • contribs) 21:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
The information for this record is out of date. Mt. Baker set the seasonal snowfall record in 1998-99. http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/1999/wsnorcrd.htm. As this is a pretty reputable source and a rather well known (at least in Washington State) weather statistic, I'm going to go ahead and change it.
5300abc 04:17, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Goodnightmush 00:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Isn't Hawaii part of the United States? bibliomaniac 1 5 04:31, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
A good new paper has an explanation of weather records and problems thereof, as well as an authoritative list of quite a few records for the US and globe, respectively:
Evolauxia 14:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Some of these figures are rounded up on conversion. Though the difference is usually trivial, I would recommend putting the original units of measure first and the conversion in parenthesis.
The temperature of 50.0C at Seville is complete crap. Already 70 years ago everybody in Spain know about that instrument was on the top of the Seville cathedral and that recorded has been discountinued since 1934 and the instrument changed. I cannot understand how people can still believe to this joke, everybody laugh at this joke. Just check the official temperatures of Spain, even a 2 years old baby knows spanish recorded is 47.8c at Murcia. 48.5C is the real european record which was at catenanuova ,province of Enna, region of Sicily, during the famous terrible heat wave of August 1999.
the 56.7C at the Death Valley is completely out of reality of about 8F, for 3 reasons: 1-the shelter was indequated 2-the instrument was too close to the ground (only 1 meter) 3- at the moment of the reading a sandstorm sent the ghot sand to the instrument and altered the reading. There is nobody who has a little knowledgment who takes that ridicolous reading seriosuly. The official record (and world record) is 53.9C recorded 4 times , July 1960, July 1998, July 2005 and July 2007. I dont know who made thsi page, but he must be a stunning ignorant about climatology. 57.7c at El Azizia ? What a pity on September 13th 1915 it was RAINING at El Azizia and all neighbour stations was recording low temperatures. Obviosuly,allover Libya no place ever recorded temperature to 50C in the history. People who doesn t know anything in climatology shouldn t edit these pages and spread their ignorance to others.
The 54.0C at Tirats Tsvi is also incorrect: the correct data is 53.7c. It seems the festival of the mistakes.
And someone with a bit of knowledge would know that iberian peninsula (portugal and spain...) has places warm enough to reach 50ºc or even a bit more, even if that seville record is an hoax. Anyway does spanish meterological service has any meteorological data about that day in seville? About death valley, 53 is easy... I bet that were registered values above that in some valley locations. Maybe you are right, that 56 is an hoax... However,by far, not impossible to be registered in Death Valley. About Lybia not too much to be said. Any child would know too, that this country can be massively warm specially on the interior ( not on the breezy mediterranean coast, for the truth sake!!)exceding very well the 50ºc celsius mark. Though maybe the El azizia record is fake. Now I´m curious how do you know that on El azizia was raining on that day? Did you reached local weather service data? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.219 ( talk) 01:02, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
Well ,you are very BAD INFORMED; Libya has never ever recorded more than 49C.: the OFFICIAL highest temperature according to Libyan Meteorological Service is 48.9C at Jalo, during the terrible heat wave of June 1961.
I mean official temperature by Libyan Meteo Service ,not the temperature written by a drunk colonizer italian 85 years ago... —Preceding
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I´m not bad informed, in fact, as I said El Aziziah record is false. But whatever you want to think, Lybia has all the conditions to reach more than 50ºc on the desert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.213 ( talk) 22:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Apart from the completely crap Seville and Portugal temps of 50.0 The Catenanuova temperature is also completely crap as it comes from an non accredited Hydrological station of Sicily which the Italian Meteorology Service DOES NOT regard as official.The OFFICIAL record is in ATHENS.It is well known that the Greek capital and its wider metropolitan area within the Attica Basin and the Triasion Basin is the warmest place in Europe.Athens metropolitan area has been consistently giving the highest temperature readings of Europe.Apart from the OFFICIAL 48.0 European record in Athens again in 2007 the metropolitan area of Athens recorded a 47.5 OFFICIALLY.People need to be informed about the greater Athens dynamics in terms of extreme summer temperatures.Within Greece it is well known that ironically the Greek capital is the warmest place of the country and Europe.
Athens and Attica aren´t the warmest place in Europe, are ONE of the warmest european places during the summer. Being the warmest overall implies different seasons, variants,etc... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.174.37.214 ( talk) 21:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Death Valley or Al 'Aziziyah? Confirmation please.-- sin-man 07:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
{Unsigned} In what Tom Skilling describes as "a stunning retraction, [in] a soon to be published article in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) Commission on Climatology has rejected" the Al 'Aziziyah Libya measurement "based on five major concerns- problems with the instrumentation, an inexperienced observer, unrepresentative microclimate at the site, poor relationship to surrounding temperatures and poor comparison to subsequent temperatures there." See http://blog.chicagoweathercenter.com/2012/07/ask-tom-why-134-in-death-valley-california-on-july-10-1913.html Once the article is published, the reference should be updated. {/Unsigned} — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.240.7 ( talk) 20:46, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
68,9 as temperature record?
Who believes on this? —Preceding
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The Guinness book of Records in the 1980s and 90s related a freak heatwave in Coimbra, Portugal that reputedly reached 70 degrees C. While easy to dismiss, and obviously not verifiable enough to hold a record, in the context of other 'heatbursts' it should not be discarded entirely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AbrahamCat ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
That Libyan record has been officialy rejected, in part because the Libyan National Meteorological Center doesn't accept it: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89. Vicki Rosenzweig ( talk) 14:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Highest UK temperature has major conversion error: I'm looking at the highest temperature ever recorded for the UK and it states that it took place in Faversham, Kent in 2003. It gives the temperature as 70C or 103F. That's completely ridiculous since 70C is NOT the same as 101.3F! In fact, 70C is 158F. Wait! That's odd. I just looked at the page on my other computer and it is now showing the Faversham reading as 38.5C/101.3F which is an accurate conversion. I suppose someone made an edit and then it got backed out again; I must have just seen it before it got backed out. Sorry for the false alarm.
76.71.44.245 ( talk) 19:44, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Highest Canadian temperature has two major problems: First, it doesn't say Canada in the first column of the table. Saskatchewan is indisputably in Canada but the country name is completely blank in the table. Second, no temperature is cited! I'm fixing that right now using the temperatures at the supporting link.
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Alright, this makes absolutely no sense. 38cm is MORE THAN A FOOT. Is this confirmed? Are we sure it's not a paper snowflake? It doesn't make sense to me. Besides, the record is from the 1800's. Can we confirm this? -- Superpika66 14:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I 2nd the motion —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.128.102.66 ( talk) 03:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
The cold record of 45.8 negative degrees in Germany is not official.
Corrected the error sarindam7 ( talk) 10:03, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
On page 10 of the August 5, 2008 "New York Daily News", a photograph of a soldier holding a thermometer (actually reading 136 F) is captioned as being "138 unimaginable degrees" in Afghanistan. Pretty impressive temperature, especially given that 136 F is considered the record. 68.32.48.59 ( talk) 22:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
DumZiBoT ( talk) 22:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Australia just had a heatwave and this page shuld be updated accordingly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.9.21 ( talk) 03:56, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It is unclear to me why New Zealand is listen (~42degC) under warmest temperatures. I can think of one day last year alone when the temperature was ~47C in Victoria, Australia, and I do not believe this is even a record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.83.203 ( talk) 10:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
The data are from BoM only. Before 1927 weather data were kept by the states, and these early reliable records have been deliberately ignored. The record high surface temp for Australia is 53.1C Cloncurry,16 Jan 1889. SA records claim 53.4C in 1854, but exact details are elusive. State surveyors were well trained and competent in such measurements. In fact, state surveyors were required to have appropriate degrees in the 1800s. BoM observers and forecasters were not required to have degrees until the late 60s. Many BoM employees became mature-age students at this time. The notion that old state records are no good is simply politically motivated (by BoM) rubbish. The data kept at U. East Anglia for the IPCC has been manipulated and "error corrected" in precisely this fashion. My comparisons show that IPCC data bases for many Aus data have been tampered with. The Darwin temp records are the most obvious tampering. There is no room in science for lying. There is no room for various IPCC data bases and IPCC scientists. 220.240.250.122 ( talk) 10:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
http://smn.cna.gob.mx/productos/normales/estacion/son/NORMAL26165.TXT —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.135.59 ( talk) 07:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Bill Malloy ( talk) 22:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC) I don't think the source cited here is reliable--at least not for earlier dates. Previous comment is correct. The cited source is just for one city in Sonora. No clue as to how the conclusion it was a national record was arrived at. In particular, the corresponding page for Mexicali BC ( http://smn.cna.gob.mx/climatologia/Max-Extr/00002/00002034.TXT) gives a high of 61.5 (presumably Celsius) on Jul 13 1949. We could update the world record with that. More recent data seems more reasonable, but I haven't checked much and don't have anything to check against.
Big problem here. If we're using surface land pressures unadjusted to sea level, then the average pressure in Flagstaff, Arizona is 790 hPa! There are likely places in the Himalayas with pressures on the order of 300 hPa. Either have a pressure section for tornadoes, adjust the SD record to sea level, or use the 870 hPa sea level pressure during Tip. Oy gevalt. Thegreatdr ( talk) 22:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I've discovered an entry in the May, 1949 Monthly Weather Review mentioning 8 and a half inch diameter hail! Soccer ball sized hail! It is on page 2 of the given link; May 13 at 4:55 pm. The hail appears to have occured on rural farmland outside the town of Panhandle. -- Hurricane ERIC - Class of '08: XVII Maius MMVIII 20:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Since all other records are of air temperature at standard height with standard instruments, there is no reason to list the satellite measurements of 70C+, except maybe as a footnote. Doing so would be inconsistent, and against the myriad sources which name Al 'Aziziyah as the official world record temperature. Please do not change it unless a new record is recognized. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 07:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
The temperature in Al 'Aziziyah was recorded on September 13, 1922 not 1915 maybe that would change a bit!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.67.15.248 ( talk) 04:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Seven years of satellite temperature data show that the Lut Desert in Iran is the hottest spot on Earth. The Lut Desert was hottest during 5 of the 7 years, and had the highest temperature overall: 70.7°C (159.3°F) in 2005, as measured by NASA’s Aqua satellite.. (NASA maps by Jesse Allen and Robert Simmon, using MODIS data from Mildrexler et al., 2011.
In five of the seven years—2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2009—the highest surface temperature on Earth was found in the Lut Desert. The single highest LST recorded in any year, in any region, occurred there in 2005, when MODIS recorded a temperature of 70.7°C (159.3°F)—more than 12°C (22°F) warmer than the official air temperature record from Libya.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/HottestSpot/page2.php
https://www.esa.int/spaceinimages/Images/2013/11/Dasht-e_Lut_salt_desert_Iran
I have removed Most snowfall depth:11.82 m (38.8 ft); Mount Ibuki, Shiga Prefecture, Japan, February 14, 1927. This seems to be the same as either "Most in one-year period" or "Most in one season (July 1–June 30)". Please explain if I am mistaken. Gabriel Kielland ( talk) 14:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you read the section above entitled "Highest temperature on Earth", and my rebuttals there, but here is a quick summary:
The surface temperature bit should not be mentioned. Even if it were, the Iran surface temperature is not a record, and NASA does not say it is a record as you suggest: they say it was the it was the highest surface temperature recorded by that satellite over the few years it was operating. Surface temperatures of over 200 degrees F have been recorded in Death Valley, USA in the past, and even THOSE temperatures are not claimed to be a record.
Second point: Records mentioned on this page can not just be "the worst we can find". They have to be clearly stated as a record by some official meteorological agency. I could not even find an unofficial agency which claimed the 1972 Iran blizzard was the deadliest ever, so it can't be on this page. The same point holds for the temperature records: it appears you have just gone through a bunch of weather stations and listed the highest/lowest you could find. This does not work. We need the Iran Meteorological Organization, or some equivalent official body, to come out and say that some event was a record.
Thirdly: you are probably right that we should mention the standard conditions by which records are kept. I am currently trying to find sources.
Okay, that wasn't as quick a summary as I originally intended. But I hope this puts the matter to rest. As always, thank you for your contributions, and you can ask me here or on my talk page if you have any questions. - RunningOnBrains( talk) 18:16, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
How about this one? Dasht-e Lut has been identified as the hottest point on earth with a temperature of 70.7 degrees C (159 degrees F) recorded in 2004 and 2005 by MODIS of NASA. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.84.126.161 ( talk) 13:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I found the Iranian state news article on this subject quite amusing, as it makes no sense whatsoever. Sounds like something got lost in translation... - RunningOnBrains( talk) 01:25, 25 May 2010 (UTC) --- 70C is not a correct real air temperature.Highest temperatures recorded in the Luv are around 53-54C. Satellite data are still unfit to give correct temperatures at 2 meters above the ground.
Those claims are fake. 48,5ºC is not regarded as valid measure in Italy. About the Italian record, as a response to an e-mail:
Dear Sir,
with reference to your e-mail of March 25th 2010, we inform you that the extremes of maximum temperatures resulting from our official archive have been measured by the weather station of Bari Palese(ENAV) on July 2007,with 45.6°C, followed by Catania Sigonella(AM) with 45.4°C, registered on July 1998.These stations belong to our net, managed by Italian Air ForceMeteorological Service and ENAV (Civil Aviation), and follow the strict standards required by WMO (World Meteorological Organization) on measurement procedures.
With Best Regards,
Lt. Filippo Maimone
I Sec. Climatology CNMCA - Italian Air Force Met ServicePratica di Mare, Pomezia (ROME) Tel. +39 06 9129 3895 Fax. +39 06 9129 3254
So yeah, this is an official claim by someone in the business. Not the stuff you posted randomly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.152.118.231 ( talk) 21:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes I agree the WMO does not give the record to this city in Italy but to Athens.There is a link as well for it.I will try to find it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.166.86.191 ( talk) 21:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Croatia record date wrong
The source you listed has wrong information. The Ploce record was set in August 1981, not August 1998.
http://klima.hr/razno/publikacije/klima2008.pdf
The date is correct and the month also, the value also, but the year is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.9.213.168 ( talk) 10:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
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Could someone point out to me why exactly there is a "Contiguous United States" entry? I mean I see the point, since Alaska has the record, but then we might as well add "Parts of Indonesia below Thailand" or "Parts of India below China". It's completely redundant and unnecessary. I'm removing it a week from now if there is no protestation. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 23:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
I also find "Most Rain in 42 Minutes" quite unnecessary. Although, reading the article for Holt, it says that it retains the fastest accumulation of a foot of precipitation in recorded history. So, I think the "42 minutes" should be removed, and have the record moved to the top of the section to say "Fastest rain accumulation (1 ft)", or something. EricLeb01 ( Page | Talk) 23:42, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
{{editsemiprotected}} Regarding the highest temperature recorded for Iraq (in Basra); per the Weather Channel's website (www.weather.com), a high temperature of 127 degrees Fahrenheit is shown for August 3, 2010 (under the "monthly data" tab, once that city's weather is selected (under "Al Basrah, Iraq"); as to the reliability of this information -- when compared to other resources referenced for this page -- I cannot say, as I make no claim to having expertise in the field of meteorology . . . merely wanted to pass my observation along for consideration -- thanks. 76.1.177.90 ( talk) 03:05, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Today's Wiki Main Page "On This Day":
"1887 – The largest-ever snowflakes, measuring 15 in (38 cm) in diameter and 8 in (20 cm) thick, were observed in Fort Keough, Montana, US."
I find this very dubious, but putting that aside for a moment, AN EIGHT-INCH THICK SNOWFLAKE? 15" X 8" isn't a snowflake - that's a chunk of ice. How was such a thing formed? HammerFilmFan ( talk) 11:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC) HammerFilmFan
I've noticed that someone has added a long list of records from http://www.mherrera.org/records.htm. I for one have doubts about the reliability of this site. However, this leads me to a new problem: Reading through Jeff Masters' blog entry which lists all the new 2010 records, I note that he lists Maximiliano Herrera as a source; the man who publishes the above website. My real questions are: who is this person, and why should we consider him an official temperature record-keeper? How does he compile these records? And most importantly: can the records listed there be considered official? - RunningOnBrains( talk) 21:18, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes my question as well.The European record has been changed YET AGAIN .I have however restored it.Please refrain from changing it and stick to the official. Plus the whole article looks extremely poor with all the herrera references.Could someone restore it to previous standards and rid us of this herrara guy ? Weatherextremes ( talk) 10:29, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
So what?We do not care what self proclaimed climatologists are on about.We are interested in official authorities of respective countries and the WMO. Weatherextremes ( talk) 05:32, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
This self proclaimed climatologist likes to insult real meteorologists on facebook, if you confront him he goes nuts and turns into a vulgar “animal”, particularly on the Weather Service page from Costa Rica, where he bullies the real meteorologists and degrades women with indecent insults. So yes, I wouldn’t trust this person and his own country DOES NOT recommend him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by onnne ( talk) 16:38, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Turkey isn't in North America. Period. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.181.167 ( talk) 19:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
If I sort the high temperature record table by descending temperature, the first three are:
−13.6 °C (7.5 °F)
57.8 °C (125.4 °F)
56.7 °C (134 °F)
Obviously, the first record should be the last record, but more importantly, either the 2nd, 3rd, or both have jacked up unit conversions. 2nd shows higher Celsius and lower Fahrenheit temperature than the third. I'm no math major, but I'm pretty sure that's impossible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.31.211.242 ( talk) 18:46, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
Same basic problem with the low temperature records table There's no way −82.8 °C and −82.5 °C both convert to −116.5 °F, unless the precision there is 0.5 F, in which case that should be noted somewhere as it is misleading otherwise.
Ack! And the next thing I see in this article shows a record -0.00 mm of rainfall. There's no such thing as negative zero rainfall. This article needs some serious QA review and cleanup.
The article lists 7.8 degrees as the coldest temperature recorded in Malaysia at Cameron highlands. This must be inaccurate since Mount Kinabalu is Malaysia's highest point at 4100m and the temperature often goes below freezing at the summit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.2.25 ( talk) 12:23, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Recently, an editor has been changing the location and temperature of the "hottest place on Earth". While that may be fine if the source is reliable, I'm worried about a few things:
1) The current high temp record cites a Mexican governmental "database project" page ( http://smn.cna.gob.mx/climatologia/Max-Extr/00026/00026086.TXT) as its source, but I can find no explanation of the data on the page (it's raw data, with Spanish headings and no explanations).
2) The NOAA site http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalextremes.html, quoted several times, contains no mention of the claimed high temp record in Sonora, Mexico.
3) The editor that inserted the data (more than once) will not discuss the issue and (so far) refuses to explain his/her edits.
Does anyone have any thoughts? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't this at least be mentioned in the article? The main article about the outbreak states that there were 353 tornadoes recorded in the outbreak including 206 on April 27, which is significantly higher than the 148 recoded in the 1974 outbreak. I realize there may be some discrepancies because of weaker tornadoes in the 1974 outbreak, but based on the articles it would still appear that the 2011 outbreak had the most recorded tornadoes in a 24-hour period. TornadoLGS ( talk) 03:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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In the section discussing tornadoes, there is a statement starting with "did you know. . . the elephants there go to mars for the day." This is obviously a prank.
70.99.180.162 ( talk) 17:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Most in 60 minutes: 305 mm (12.0 in) in 42 minutes. Holt, Missouri, United States, 22 June 1947.[23]
The caption under the hailstone image says "A picture of the Aurora, Nebraska hailstone, measured at 18.75 inches (47.6 cm) in circumference." but the image clearly shows a 7" hailstone, and the image description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hailstone.jpg says "At the time of this photo, this was the largest hailstone ever recovered, 7 inches in diameter and almost 19 inches in circumference. This record has since been surpassed" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.141.166 ( talk) 20:48, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
The bullet list has data which conflicts with the table. For example, the very first item is in conflict: the first bullet says the 1 minute record is 1.23 inches yet the first table entry says 1.5 inches. Which is it? A normal reader will spot this inconsistency immediately. The 12 hour entries are also in conflict. I notice that ONLY RAIN HAS BOTH A TABLE AND A BULLET LIST OF RECORDS. As a quick and easy correction, I suggest removing either the table or the bullet list so Rain is CONSISTENT with the rest of this Wikipedia article. I cannot fix it because I do not know which data set is correct — Preceding unsigned comment added by N0w8st8s ( talk • contribs) 07:56, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
What about humidity? That should make a distinction between an arid desert and a cloud forest... Can anyone post records for lowest and highest humidity? Undead Herle King ( talk) 08:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
IT'S OFFICIAL. The WMO (World Meteorological Organization) this morning de-certified the record for the world's highest surface temperature, held for 90 years by El Azizia, Libya. The now official hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth was the 56.7°C (134°F) reading taken at Furnace Creek (née Greenland Ranch) in Death Valley, California, on July 10, 1913. http://wmo.asu.edu/, and http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89 75.147.156.165 ( talk) 13:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Is there a convention for defining national records when a countries name changes, it becomes divided into more countries, or its borders change? Do we then have to search back within those borders to re-define the record? Unless this is carried out diligently this could lead to the number of records increasing over time as more countries are introduced. I have recently changed the lowest temperature record for Bangladesh from 2013 back to 1968 when it was known as East Pakistan. -- Andromedean ( talk) 13:34, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
For this record, while the WMO does accept it (
source) and it is mentioned in passing in the
El Azizia paper listed as a source for this record, the other
source listed for this record (written by Christopher C. Burt, one of the authors for the above paper) actually disputes this record in the article, giving it a 2/10 for reliability. At the very least, this second source shouldn't be given in such a way as it would appear to support the record - and there should probably be a footnote saying that the record is disputed.
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link Mark ( talk) 16:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I don't know why someone removed a listing for the record high in Israel (note: I was not the editor who added it in the first place). I hope it's not some political debate or something. Seanette ( talk) 21:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
The highest record for Israel is dated 1942; that year the state of Israel did not yet exist. I suggest we include a record after its modern creation in May 1948. Politis ( talk) 16:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
There are some inconsistencies. Indeed many other states are given records pre-dating their formation as independent states. We also have records for regions like Scotland but not for Catalonia or for Flanders. Meanwhile, huge areas like India, US and Russia are treated as one. And there is nothing for the Palestinian territories or Tibet, Kosovo. It may have to do with the (non) availability of data. Either way, it seems more useful to allow for new data to be inserted for new regions. For instance, to treat Alaska as separate from the US and the East Coast as separate from the West Coast, etc. Politis ( talk) 07:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I found a problem with the formatting in the ====Highest temperatures ever recorded==== table on this page. The column headings in the table allow page readers to sort the temperature records (in ascending or descending order) by "'Temperature'", "'Location'", and "'Date'" (the three sortable columns in the table). To sort the records by "'Location'", for example, viewers click the sort arrow that appears next to the word "'Location'" in the top row (the heading row) of the table.
The problem occurs when I sort the "'Temperature'" column. In the default view of the table, the first data row (just below the column headings) displays the highest temperature ever recorded. The row reads "North America (World Record)" then "56.7 degrees C" then "Furnace Creek Ranch" then "1913-07-10". However, when I click the sort arrow in the ""Temperature'" column (to re-sort the table to show temperature records in "ascending order" (from lowest to highest temps), the top row displays as "Antarctica" then "14.6 degrees C" then "Vanda Station" then "1974-01-05". The problem is that the temperature of 14.6 degrees C is ""NOT"" the lowest temperature ever recorded, because this same table includes a record that reads "South Pole" then "-12.3 degrees C" then "Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station" then "2011-12-25". (Aside: a world low temp record makes a great Christmas gift!) You will see THAT row (that temperature record) displayed at the top of the table if you click the "'Temperature'" sort order again, to move from a "lowest-to-highest" order to a "highest to lowest" order.
So, the formatting problem with sorting is that the "'Temperature'" column sorts all of the "numerically positive" temperature records correctly, but does ""NOT"" correctly incorporate the (there is only one) "numerically negative" temperature record into that list.
This problem also occurs in the ====Lowest temperatures ever recorded==== table on this page, because the low temperature records also include both numerically positive ("above 0 degrees C") temperature records and numerically negative ("below 0 degrees C") temperature records.
In short, in the two temperature records tables on this page, the Wikipedia sort algorithm (or whatever it's called) does not correctly account for both positive and negative numerical values when it sorts data in ascending and/or descending order. And I don't know how to change this. Perhaps it's a matter of the data being sorted as "textual" rather than as "numerical" data--but I don't know enough about how Wikipedia's sorting works to be able to address this myself. Can one of you who follow this page fix this problem, or is it something that should be pushed up to a Wikipedia administrator (or to someone who can tweak the sort algorithm)?
Cheers, Kurt B.
Drtheuth ( talk) 17:52, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone know what the relevance of the 'Dolines' is in this link? Should this go in as a minimum record for Italy?
Busa Nord di Fradusta (Italy) min. -49.6 New national record low for Italy (for the dolines) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andromedean ( talk • contribs) 07:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Temperatures in London rose to 92.6 degrees as recorded by a reporter in his bag, so out of the shade-I know it wasn't reported by a weather station because the area affected by intense heat was too small but it was clear the temperature was the highest recorded ever considering how a reporter fried eggs, tiles broke off and a car started the melt, which is virtually impossibly under any temperatures previously recorded.What is the point in this article if it doesn't account for all weather that takes place.Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuKIQdvEOzY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.1.133.156 ( talk) 17:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Should this article make mention of the new record noted at Lowest temperature recorded on Earth? It is admittedly of lower quality than the Vostok reading because it was remote-sensed by satellite and therefore has no official status, but does this preclude even a mere mention, say, in a footnote? After all, other pages about temperature and temperature extremes do mention it. -- Florian Blaschke ( talk) 19:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
There is no support for this record, other than a text webpage with a number on it. All national weather organizations (US, Mexico) reflect the 52/125.6 temperature in Mexicali as the national official record high. The WMO now recognizes the Furnace Creek 134F as the official world record. There are many, many reports of higher temperatures, none of which are accepted by official meteorological organizations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.145.51.6 ( talk) 06:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
The claimed high temperature is 54 C. The entire territory is near the Mediterranean Sea. The high temperature is claimed to be higher than the highest temperatures in the middle of deserts far from the sea in the hottest parts of the world, such as the Sahara, Arabia or Australia. In my opinion this 54 C record is bullshit. It is simply not possible in terms of climate. Palestine is not hotter than the hottest parts of the world. Probably some "Israelis" have falsified the records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.76.103.168 ( talk) 22:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
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What kind of fool did this table? But It is not only Spain, others like Denmark and Belgium are in Europe.
The highest temperature recorded in South America should be 48.9 °C (120.0 °F), which was recorded at Rivadavia, Salta, not 49.1 °C (120.4 °F), in Villa de María del Río Seco. This is incorrect Most sources, including the World Meteorological Organization recognizes this value (it is not disputed and not under any ongoing investigations). I am bit unsure about the lowest temperature though. Most sources, including WMO indicate the record low of −32.8 °C (−27.0 °F) in Sarmiento, Chubut, Argentina. Ssbbplayer ( talk) 02:51, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
With the two sources for the Record temp in USA of 134F. 1 source states that the record is due to superheated sand caused by a sandstorm. The second source states that the record is most likely incorrect. Should this record have a notation that the record is unreliable?
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The asterisk note under the highest temperature table now says "Temperature record may be unreliable according to Christopher Burt." Burt has been writing on the weather underground site about the reliability of temperature records since at least 2010, but it's hard to believe that he's the only one who doubts the indicated records. Indeed, the climatologist William T. Reid published a thorough story in Burt's blog just this past Monday. Burt's prodding and blogs led to the official dismissal of the Libyan world record, so my guess is the 134ºF won't stand "officially" for very long anymore either.
The highest temperature in Israel is a no-brainer, as the paper record clearly shows the 54ºC was a simple misreading of 53ºC (though given the width of the line 52ºC-52.5ºC is more realistic). No idea why this is still in any record lists.
Burt dismisses basically all records measured by the French in the 1930s in North Africa as "older recordings by colonial stations [using] thermometers and shelters that probably cannot be accepted today". I believe nearby weather stations did not record any unusually high temps in each case of a purported record. Note that the Tunisian record was not endorsed by the WMO report in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society; the paper was an official report on the Libya record and at the end they simply write that the torch has apparently been passed to Death Valley for the world (see above) and Tunisia for the African record, without verifying the reliability of either. I recommend that reference to be deleted from the table.
On the other hand, for Europe, we have a lower temperature in the table than Burt accepts. He wrote in 2010 "The highest reliably measured temperature in Europe is 48.5C (119.3F) recorded at Catenanuova, Sicily, Italy on Aug. 10, 1999. This has recently been confirmed as authentic by the Italian Meteorological Service (Air Force)." Perhaps that authentication can be dug up. Afasmit ( talk) 22:09, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
I realized fairly quickly that Papua New Guinea is not represented here, and I am sure several other countries are missing. Nor was I aware that, for instance, Greenland was part of North America - its traditional associations have been with Europe. Similarly, Madagascar seems to be missing from these charts, while North Korea has had a minimum temperature but no maximum.
Finally, I realize that it would be somewhat arbitrary but a chart of the year's maxima/minima have been recorded would be a valuable addition to this page for the reader. Anyone out there up to that? Ambiguosity ( talk) 14:57, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
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So let's check the real sources for raw data, not blogs from wunderground: Ahvaz Airport in Iran, June 29th, 2017. They report 54 C in the METAR message from 16h51' and 17h00 local time. SOURCE: https://rp5.ru/Weather_archive_in_Ahvaz_(airport),_METAR We know that airports don't report decimals, so we cannot take this as valid. Then we have the Ahvaz regular/normal weather station which is registered under WMO. In the SYNOP message from 19h30 local time from June 29th, they report +53,7 C as maximum temperature. For 16h30 local time they report 52,7 C, so it is plausible. I believe that we shouldn't consider rounded values from METAR messages, for the real temperature could be as well as 53,5 C, but also 54,4 C. What do you guys think? Dextercioby ( talk) 08:55, 14 July 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dextercioby ( talk • contribs) 11:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
On July 13th, the local/national weather station of Montoro Vega Armijo (5361X) reported a maximum temperature of 47,3 C, which somebody used to change on the article page the absolute record for Spain from the old 47,8 C of Murcia from 29 VII 1876 to this new value. I took the liberty to add the only reference for this reading (the Kachelmann website), but I am pretty sure the Spanish still consider the old record of 141 years ago as being valid, so, unless this heat wave won't deliver at least 47,9 C, we normally have no reason to consider a change in the table. This weather station in Montoro is not registered by AEMET under WMO, as it would normally appear in the listing on the OSCAR platform. Dextercioby ( talk) 09:13, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The record was previously listed as 47.2°C in Murcia on 4 July 1994, however due to reports which have been confirmed to be correct by the UK Met Office (a reputable source), the value was changed 2A02:C7F:C814:7F00:D98E:90CC:BB7B:B416 ( talk) 21:40, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Some known user replaced the Kachelmann source (raw data from SYNOP/BUFR messages issued by stations) I had placed and the original daily report on the AEMET website with an article in the El Pais newspaper claiming this is a "secondary source". Why? Is the newspaper an official, reputable source? Dextercioby ( talk) 13:46, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
The lowest recorded temperature in Israel is in the Golan Heights, which the international community considers occupied and is disputed. Should there be any sort of marking to indicate this? 'List of elevation extremes by country' shows two entries: the first from the Israeli point of view and the second from the international point of view, so this seems like what we should do here. Oiygg ( talk) 21:44, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
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The article currently lists "Highest overnight low temperature". This differs from the highest daily low, which would include cooler hours from two different days (one starting at midnight, another ending at the next midnight). CNN (and perhaps others) has reported a new record highest daily low -- see https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/hottest-low-temperature-quriyat-oman-wxc/index.html . Would it be appropriate to add a new row for "Highest daily low"? Note that this new article actually specifies two records: highest low in a 24 hour period (which might or might not start at midnight), plus highest low over a 51 hour period, which by definition must include at least one standard day (midnight to midnight). -- Larry/Traveling_Man ( talk) 17:41, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I reverted the new Scottish temperature record of 33.2°C because it was rejected by the Met Office (BBC News). Therefore, it stands once again at 32.9°C. -- Gerrit C U T E D H 22:56, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I am neutral, but am listing here because the merger proposal was made on 22 December 2018 and has attracted no comment from the nominator or anyone else. It could otherwise hang around for ever. Narky Blert ( talk) 11:25, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Commonwealth Bay, Antartica, is considered the windiest place on Earth, with an average annual wind speed is 50 mph. We should include this place to the wind speeds record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GS-216.1993 ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Antarctica Record is fake news: They measured the full sun temperature instead of shadow temperature: https://www.lameteo.org/index.php/news/3696-record-de-chaleur-en-antarctique-le-vrai-du-faux — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4DD5:FA7C:0:7C2F:6206:5E14:42CF ( talk) 07:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Shouldn’t that hurricane be listed for the highest wind speed? --Comment by Selfie City ( talk about my contributions) 02:17, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
The currently listed record for most snowfall in a 24 period is 2.56m for Capracotta, Italy, on 5 March 2015. This attracted a lot of media immediately after the event, but a week later in this USA Today story it seems the claims were overblown, so to speak:
Despite gobs of initial media attention, that total may have been wildly inflated. Officially, the town picked up "only" about 3 feet of snow, which was then blown around by strong winds into massive snowdrifts, greatly exaggerating the totals.
Wantok ( toktok) 04:29, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
The bogus 1913 Death Valley entry should be deleted and replaced with one of the modern, reliable extremes. Scientists examined 1913 records recently and determined they are impossible to occur and most likely a falsified by inept caretaker as they fail statistical, meteorological and geographical scrutiny at once: https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html (this is different to the debunking link already on this site, examining Death Valley record keeping in particular)
I do not think the current record in hottest temperature is confirmed by the WMO yet just like the recent record in Italy, I think the old one should be kept for now. Maxime12346 ( talk) 23:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
AEMET came publicly on their website and on Twitter with 47,4 C, after initial raw data from Saturday showed only 47,2 C. I think we should keep the Spain one. There won't be any WMO involvement, they do not look into national heat/cold records, only in the continental ones. As for Sicily, it's a different enchilada: there were wild vegetation fires not too far away from Floridia (Siracusa province, where this agro-meteo w.s. is located) on that day, so an inspection of NASA/NOOA satellite records by WMO + possible imperfect radiation coating on the temperature sensors could/should disqualify it. (Dextercioby, 06:34 UTC, 17.08.2021)
Upon checking the citation for Chad, I discovered a rather complex situation involving wrong citations for a number of countries' maximum temperature records. I've mostly fixed it now (I hope!) but there's too much to cover in an edit summary so I'll detail it here:
Dendrite1 ( talk) 20:05, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
There have been several reverts by an user who calls himself sfaube. He or she is a new user and has so far only edited in this article, and the only activity thereof is reverting edits of other users. I suggest, sfaube, that you stop that as vandalism is frowned upon in the Wikipedia and might lead to you being reported. Maxl ( talk) 12:09, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
When reading the information I noticed that many sentences didn’t add up and had grammar errors I don’t know what happened but I added Egypt temperature record and it’s disappeared 2A02:A44C:6682:1:B96D:5803:2EAE:EA59 ( talk) 14:21, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
This source: [1] suggests that Ireland’s hottest day on record was 16 July 1876 33.5 °C (92.3 °F), instead of 26 June 1887 33.3 °C (91.9 °F).
Is the source valid? Should we change Ireland’s heat record? Egghead2000 ( talk) 00:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
This article ( https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/06/may-2023-was-the-worlds-third-warmest-may-on-record/) states that Chad has set an all time record high and that Myanmar and Cyprus have hit all time record lows. Tajjc ( talk) 20:25, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Should the table entry for Cyprus therefore be moved to Asia? The wikipedia entry for the Geography of Cyprus states this, and the main Cyprus page describes it as geographically in Asia, it is only culturally and politically in Europe. Weather and climate comes under the Geography section in Wikipedia country articles. Weatherman22 ( talk) 18:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
There is a possibility of a new dew point record being recorded at Qeshm Dayrestan International Airport in Iran. The dew point was at 97 degrees F, which is 2 degrees about the highest recorded dew point temperature in 2003 in Saudi Arabia. The heat index value is tied at 178 degrees F. [5] https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1691596872903979036 I think this record should be changed if it has been verified. 47.12.180.193 ( talk) 23:26, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi, can we protect the page from vandalism? Allow only members of many years of WP to make additions/changes? Dextercioby ( talk) 21:05, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
I know the WMO still excepts this record, but almost every weather historian agrees it is unreliable just like the rest of the extremely high temperatures in Africa measured in colonial times. I think this should be removed from the list Gopher7923 ( talk) 18:23, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
Hello, on February 16, 2021 in Hungary an absolute minimum temperature of -35.5°C was measured in Bükk Platteau, which surpasses the previous record of -35°C from 1940. These are the sources: [6] https://mkweather.com/hungary-355c-all-time-national-record-2021/ https://www.heol.hu/helyi-kozelet/2021/02/uj-rekord-minusz-35-es-fel-fokot-mertek-szombaton-a-bukk-fennsikon Rocky20082009 ( talk) 10:49, 2 December 2023 (UTC). Furthermore, in the first ten days of January 2022, -50.6°C were recorded in Busa Riviera at 2634 masl in Italy. This is the source resulting from the association that records the data in the "cold spots": [7]
I think there might be a new record for the country of India for the highest temperature during the recent heat wave. New Delhi had recorded at temperature of 52.9°C (127.22°F). [8] 47.12.180.193 ( talk) 01:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC). The record has to be verified before it becomes official.