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The Tineretului statue is described by its designer as an abstract representation of a fallen angle. Does this qualify for the list's criteria of representing one or more people or animals (real or mythical), in their entirety or partially
? To me, this monument does not look like a human form, but it is intended to represent one. Is that good enough, or does the work need to be an obvious representation. The monument is currently included in the list, but I'm not 100% sure it meets criteria. Feedback would be appreciated.
Hadron137 (
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17:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Stalin Monument (Prague) should be included as well among destroyed statues. Ceplm ( talk) 20:10, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I recently attempted to edit this page to have the Guanyin statue link to Hong Kong, rather than to the PRC page. I included a notification that the PRC grouping of statues include those from Hong Kong. Both were reverted because Hong Kong is not a country. That is true, but Hong Kong is generally listed separately from the PRC in international lists. If someone could explain why both of my edits are problematic, I would appreciate it. -- Plasma Twa 2 19:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
They keep removing it because they say it's a sculpture or it's a monument. Actually it is a statue, because statues are monuments. And you can check the definition of monument and it says "Examples of monuments include statues,". CarlosPR5 ( talk) 06:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
There is a cleanup tag with the reason "faulty table formatting". What is faulty about the table? RJFJR ( talk) 19:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
I see that more than one sculpture has been removed from this list article because it doesn't meet the definition of "statue" that we are using right now. Is there some other article that lists "tallest sculptures" that would be more appropriate for those sculptures? -- DavidCary ( talk) 03:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi there - which few editors decided to make their own standards for this article? The Birth of the New World statue is considered by many reliable sources to be the tallest statue in the Americas, and is thus at the top of List of tallest statues in the United States. Why should this article be different? Whose standards are you following? The criteria at the top of the article are not cited to any particular organization. I understand that a brick pedestal, etc. would not count, as it is usually not a sculpted piece, part of the artwork, but in this case, the entire statue/sculpture spans more than just the figure. For other even more abstract statues, this criteria of where the figure starts and the remaining portion ends could be impossible to follow. ɱ (talk) 14:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
... shouldn't be listed as a country in its own right but should be summarized with the US statues. -- Ulkomaalainen ( talk) 19:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Ɱ The proper place for a civil discussion about these issues is the talk page. You could have come here on my edit and pinged me. My mistake re edit warring but the content of your edit summary lead me to believe you had reverted my edit. Swearing in edit summaries is contrary to WP:CIVIL. I am not claiming ownership of this article as other editors have agreed with not including statues such as Peter the Great and Birth of the New World. You need to gain consensus if you want the criteria for this list article to be changed. I would be happy to work with you to create a new list article which is a list of tallest monuments. This would help with this article as other editors have tried to include Peter the Great and Birth of the New World here. Let me know if you are interested in that project. Thanks Robynthehode ( talk) 13:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Can someone explain briefly the controversy and the reasons the statue is not included here, since the above discussion doesn't make it clear? It's quite confusing that this article is linked from the creator's page, which claims it as the eighth-tallest statue in the world, only for it to not be listed here. 104.246.217.171 ( talk) 07:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Table needs an update to include the "Birth of the New World" statue, in Puerto Rico. It measures 360 ft (110m), and wikipedia has had the entry on the statue since at least 18 August 2019. Seeing as it's the tallest statue outside of the Asian continent (being the 3rd biggest statue in the world) I'm really perplexed as to why it is not on the list. JonStarkPR ( talk) 08:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I created the entry and provided the photo for this statue. The height given for it, if I recall correctly, was taken from a placard at the base of the statue (40 m, 130 ft). I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure the given height didn't specify if it was height of the statue alone, or the height of the statue and its base. If I had to guess, the 40m/130ft given height probably included the base. As such, if the statue itself is 30 m tall, it remains on the list (although further down). Otherwise, it's possible it doesn't meet the 30 m criteria for inclusion at all. Hopefully someone can verify this.
Time to add The Giant (statue)? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
This is currently listed as 30.35 meters tall. The reference given (132) says it was planned to be 198 meters tall. A photo in the London Times today (11/23/21) has a caption saying it is 38 meters tall, but the photo shows it is clearly much taller than that, but not 198 meters tall! I'd estimate from the photo it's about half that height, but a lot taller than 30.35 meters for sure. I'm not sure where to go from here. Pjholloway ( talk) 11:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Where is the second largest Buddha statue located in India 157.41.57.113 ( talk) 16:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Looking at some of the talk above, and having foolishly added this (and since removed it):
|5 | Birth of the New World | | Christopher Columbus | Arecibo | Puerto Rico |110m (360 ft) |When completed in 2016, it became the tallest sculpture in North America. |2016 | 18°29′24″N 66°37′36″W / 18.4901°N 66.6267°W
This and the Peter the Great statue fall into a grey area. This page defines statue as the part of a sculpture, minus an obvious base, that is human or animal. Normally, and historically, bases are quite clear. However in the two cases above the figure is integrated into a larger metal artwork that doesn't have as clear distinctions. Both have a figure on large boats that could not be isolated from the boat without destroying the overall art work. My suggestion would be to add a new column to the page with these and other 'grey area' statues. Hesperian Nguyen ( talk) 20:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
References
There are a number of issues in the table of current tallest statues which I think may be due to formatting errors.
For example, the numbering (ranking) jumps straight from 4 to 6. I don't know whether this is because there is an entry at #5 that has been deleted or a formatting issue.
Also, the Motherland Calls is in the table at #12, and then reappears some way down the table (between #39 and #40) with no number, and with a shorter height (excluding sword).
I'm not good with tables but if someone could review and fix that would be great. JayZed73 ( talk) 09:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Statue of sita Mata statue is wrongly depicted and been vandalized, it is actually the statue of Rama whose hight is 251 meter 103.83.128.31 ( talk) 16:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
These are 2 new Buddha ( Gautama) statues that are being built in Thailand that should be added on the list.
1."Phra Putta Metta Statue" with the height of 80 meters including the base. It is located in Udon Thani province.
Sources:
1. https://www.boontoday.com/event/detail/1781
2. https://palanla.com/index.php?op=domesticLocation-detail&id=897
3. The announcement posted by official Facebook page.
Coordination: 16°11'09.0"N 100°34'38.6"E
2."Phra Putta Trailokkanat" with the height of 75 meters. It is located in Udon Thani province.
Sources:
1. https://www.boontoday.com/event/detail/2935
2. The announcement posted by official Facebook page.
Coordination: 17°18'52.5"N 102°37'55.8"E
Can I go ahead and add these two statues? Helpfulin ( talk) 17:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit User:Aakash Singh India for the Statue of Belief in List of tallest statues because the height is contested. The height stated in sources seems to be the overall height not the statue height alone. If this is the case then its place in the list would be much lower (see the Statue of Belief article). Please discuss on the article talk page and do not revert again as you are engaged in an edit war WP:WAR Robynthehode ( talk) 15:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
The GWK statue opened in 2018 on the island of Bali in Indonesia is 122 m tall and should be in 3rd position on the list 2405:6E00:268D:88EC:E097:8717:C352:85F5 ( talk) 08:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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To begin with, Ukraine has a statue called Motherland Monument or Batkivshchýna-Máty (that means mother motherland), which height is 102 m (335 ft). It IS the tallest statue in the Europe, and is definitely among top-10, if not top-5.
Here is a link to the wiki page about it: /info/en/?search=Motherland_Monument
Also, I would like to request to delete data about russian statues. First of all, russia is a war-terrorist country and spreading information about them or containing it really feels as offensive as openly supporting them. Secondly, a lot of other countries are ignored, so why would it be that hard to ignore them too? 2A0D:3344:1DDA:A010:24AB:FFB6:D837:AA26 ( talk) 21:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi,
since the list is, in my opinion, way too long, I propose to keep only the statues who are at least 40 or 50 metres high. This way there would be 70+ or 47 entries, respectively. @ Robynthehode Baronedimare ( talk) 13:18, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
It's not too long some go on forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23EE:16D0:17A7:C56E:3507:7D3F:2897 ( talk) 12:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Item 38, Statue of Guan Yu (Jingzhou) has already been destroyed.
Refs: [2] [3] [4] [5] Magister Mathematicae ( talk) 06:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently entry 20 in the existing list is for a Buddha statue is Vietnam that has a note this is the tallest statue in SE Asia. There are multiple entries included in the list for Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, and Myanmar above it in the list. What is the basis for this claim since it seems to not be consistent with the rest of the list. 71.163.39.148 ( talk) 04:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Just a note, we have to be careful especially about proposed statues as we here don't have crystal ball and we don't do any advocacy at Wikipedia as per WP:NOT. Anybody can suggest some or claim anything (especially some extraordinary things), but actual things needs to be done (serious work) and covered in many sources and to be relevant to be included in the list. 109.93.84.102 ( talk) 20:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
where is... 2A00:23EE:16D0:17A7:C56E:3507:7D3F:2897 ( talk) 12:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
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The Tineretului statue is described by its designer as an abstract representation of a fallen angle. Does this qualify for the list's criteria of representing one or more people or animals (real or mythical), in their entirety or partially
? To me, this monument does not look like a human form, but it is intended to represent one. Is that good enough, or does the work need to be an obvious representation. The monument is currently included in the list, but I'm not 100% sure it meets criteria. Feedback would be appreciated.
Hadron137 (
talk)
17:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
Stalin Monument (Prague) should be included as well among destroyed statues. Ceplm ( talk) 20:10, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I recently attempted to edit this page to have the Guanyin statue link to Hong Kong, rather than to the PRC page. I included a notification that the PRC grouping of statues include those from Hong Kong. Both were reverted because Hong Kong is not a country. That is true, but Hong Kong is generally listed separately from the PRC in international lists. If someone could explain why both of my edits are problematic, I would appreciate it. -- Plasma Twa 2 19:24, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
They keep removing it because they say it's a sculpture or it's a monument. Actually it is a statue, because statues are monuments. And you can check the definition of monument and it says "Examples of monuments include statues,". CarlosPR5 ( talk) 06:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
There is a cleanup tag with the reason "faulty table formatting". What is faulty about the table? RJFJR ( talk) 19:07, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
I see that more than one sculpture has been removed from this list article because it doesn't meet the definition of "statue" that we are using right now. Is there some other article that lists "tallest sculptures" that would be more appropriate for those sculptures? -- DavidCary ( talk) 03:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi there - which few editors decided to make their own standards for this article? The Birth of the New World statue is considered by many reliable sources to be the tallest statue in the Americas, and is thus at the top of List of tallest statues in the United States. Why should this article be different? Whose standards are you following? The criteria at the top of the article are not cited to any particular organization. I understand that a brick pedestal, etc. would not count, as it is usually not a sculpted piece, part of the artwork, but in this case, the entire statue/sculpture spans more than just the figure. For other even more abstract statues, this criteria of where the figure starts and the remaining portion ends could be impossible to follow. ɱ (talk) 14:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
... shouldn't be listed as a country in its own right but should be summarized with the US statues. -- Ulkomaalainen ( talk) 19:07, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Ɱ The proper place for a civil discussion about these issues is the talk page. You could have come here on my edit and pinged me. My mistake re edit warring but the content of your edit summary lead me to believe you had reverted my edit. Swearing in edit summaries is contrary to WP:CIVIL. I am not claiming ownership of this article as other editors have agreed with not including statues such as Peter the Great and Birth of the New World. You need to gain consensus if you want the criteria for this list article to be changed. I would be happy to work with you to create a new list article which is a list of tallest monuments. This would help with this article as other editors have tried to include Peter the Great and Birth of the New World here. Let me know if you are interested in that project. Thanks Robynthehode ( talk) 13:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Can someone explain briefly the controversy and the reasons the statue is not included here, since the above discussion doesn't make it clear? It's quite confusing that this article is linked from the creator's page, which claims it as the eighth-tallest statue in the world, only for it to not be listed here. 104.246.217.171 ( talk) 07:41, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
Table needs an update to include the "Birth of the New World" statue, in Puerto Rico. It measures 360 ft (110m), and wikipedia has had the entry on the statue since at least 18 August 2019. Seeing as it's the tallest statue outside of the Asian continent (being the 3rd biggest statue in the world) I'm really perplexed as to why it is not on the list. JonStarkPR ( talk) 08:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I created the entry and provided the photo for this statue. The height given for it, if I recall correctly, was taken from a placard at the base of the statue (40 m, 130 ft). I'm not 100% sure but I'm pretty sure the given height didn't specify if it was height of the statue alone, or the height of the statue and its base. If I had to guess, the 40m/130ft given height probably included the base. As such, if the statue itself is 30 m tall, it remains on the list (although further down). Otherwise, it's possible it doesn't meet the 30 m criteria for inclusion at all. Hopefully someone can verify this.
Time to add The Giant (statue)? --- Another Believer ( Talk) 16:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
This is currently listed as 30.35 meters tall. The reference given (132) says it was planned to be 198 meters tall. A photo in the London Times today (11/23/21) has a caption saying it is 38 meters tall, but the photo shows it is clearly much taller than that, but not 198 meters tall! I'd estimate from the photo it's about half that height, but a lot taller than 30.35 meters for sure. I'm not sure where to go from here. Pjholloway ( talk) 11:51, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Where is the second largest Buddha statue located in India 157.41.57.113 ( talk) 16:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Looking at some of the talk above, and having foolishly added this (and since removed it):
|5 | Birth of the New World | | Christopher Columbus | Arecibo | Puerto Rico |110m (360 ft) |When completed in 2016, it became the tallest sculpture in North America. |2016 | 18°29′24″N 66°37′36″W / 18.4901°N 66.6267°W
This and the Peter the Great statue fall into a grey area. This page defines statue as the part of a sculpture, minus an obvious base, that is human or animal. Normally, and historically, bases are quite clear. However in the two cases above the figure is integrated into a larger metal artwork that doesn't have as clear distinctions. Both have a figure on large boats that could not be isolated from the boat without destroying the overall art work. My suggestion would be to add a new column to the page with these and other 'grey area' statues. Hesperian Nguyen ( talk) 20:39, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
References
There are a number of issues in the table of current tallest statues which I think may be due to formatting errors.
For example, the numbering (ranking) jumps straight from 4 to 6. I don't know whether this is because there is an entry at #5 that has been deleted or a formatting issue.
Also, the Motherland Calls is in the table at #12, and then reappears some way down the table (between #39 and #40) with no number, and with a shorter height (excluding sword).
I'm not good with tables but if someone could review and fix that would be great. JayZed73 ( talk) 09:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Statue of sita Mata statue is wrongly depicted and been vandalized, it is actually the statue of Rama whose hight is 251 meter 103.83.128.31 ( talk) 16:42, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
These are 2 new Buddha ( Gautama) statues that are being built in Thailand that should be added on the list.
1."Phra Putta Metta Statue" with the height of 80 meters including the base. It is located in Udon Thani province.
Sources:
1. https://www.boontoday.com/event/detail/1781
2. https://palanla.com/index.php?op=domesticLocation-detail&id=897
3. The announcement posted by official Facebook page.
Coordination: 16°11'09.0"N 100°34'38.6"E
2."Phra Putta Trailokkanat" with the height of 75 meters. It is located in Udon Thani province.
Sources:
1. https://www.boontoday.com/event/detail/2935
2. The announcement posted by official Facebook page.
Coordination: 17°18'52.5"N 102°37'55.8"E
Can I go ahead and add these two statues? Helpfulin ( talk) 17:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
I have reverted your edit User:Aakash Singh India for the Statue of Belief in List of tallest statues because the height is contested. The height stated in sources seems to be the overall height not the statue height alone. If this is the case then its place in the list would be much lower (see the Statue of Belief article). Please discuss on the article talk page and do not revert again as you are engaged in an edit war WP:WAR Robynthehode ( talk) 15:48, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
The GWK statue opened in 2018 on the island of Bali in Indonesia is 122 m tall and should be in 3rd position on the list 2405:6E00:268D:88EC:E097:8717:C352:85F5 ( talk) 08:34, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
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To begin with, Ukraine has a statue called Motherland Monument or Batkivshchýna-Máty (that means mother motherland), which height is 102 m (335 ft). It IS the tallest statue in the Europe, and is definitely among top-10, if not top-5.
Here is a link to the wiki page about it: /info/en/?search=Motherland_Monument
Also, I would like to request to delete data about russian statues. First of all, russia is a war-terrorist country and spreading information about them or containing it really feels as offensive as openly supporting them. Secondly, a lot of other countries are ignored, so why would it be that hard to ignore them too? 2A0D:3344:1DDA:A010:24AB:FFB6:D837:AA26 ( talk) 21:36, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi,
since the list is, in my opinion, way too long, I propose to keep only the statues who are at least 40 or 50 metres high. This way there would be 70+ or 47 entries, respectively. @ Robynthehode Baronedimare ( talk) 13:18, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
It's not too long some go on forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23EE:16D0:17A7:C56E:3507:7D3F:2897 ( talk) 12:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
Item 38, Statue of Guan Yu (Jingzhou) has already been destroyed.
Refs: [2] [3] [4] [5] Magister Mathematicae ( talk) 06:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Currently entry 20 in the existing list is for a Buddha statue is Vietnam that has a note this is the tallest statue in SE Asia. There are multiple entries included in the list for Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, and Myanmar above it in the list. What is the basis for this claim since it seems to not be consistent with the rest of the list. 71.163.39.148 ( talk) 04:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Just a note, we have to be careful especially about proposed statues as we here don't have crystal ball and we don't do any advocacy at Wikipedia as per WP:NOT. Anybody can suggest some or claim anything (especially some extraordinary things), but actual things needs to be done (serious work) and covered in many sources and to be relevant to be included in the list. 109.93.84.102 ( talk) 20:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
where is... 2A00:23EE:16D0:17A7:C56E:3507:7D3F:2897 ( talk) 12:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)