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The press release indicates 70 names were retired, but we are getting 71 with the new additions. There was a previous mention that Gracie in 59 might not have been retired, and indeed the NHC does not include it; the 2007 names have been added, though. Does anyone have any word whether Gracie was retired, since it's looking like it isn't. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I got a very good reply from the webmaster at the Hurricane Research Division. Here was my email.
In the AOML FAQ for retired hurricane names, I notice you include Hurricane Gracie in 1959 as one of the retired names - http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/B3.html. However, the National Hurricane Center clearly does not include it in their list of retired names - http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/retirednames.shtml. Additionally, a recent press release announcing the retirement of 2007 storm names indicates that only 70 names have been retired - http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080513_stormnames.html. The list on your site has 68 names, which, adding the 2007 names, would total to 71. Could you provide some clarification, as this issue is confusing.
And here is the reply.
Mr. Hink, Thanks for catching that. I didn't write the original list of retired names which makes up this FAQ, so I am cc'ing the original authors and NHC's webmaster in hopes of clarifying this. Gracie may not have officially been retired, but it has been retired de facto, since the name was never reintroduced. The use of women's names for Atlantic hurricanes began in 1953, and for the first decade the composition of the name lists was very informal. For the first couple of years they used the same list, then began to change them around but not in any organized fashion. It wasn't until 1964 that they employed rotating lists of names. The retirement of names from the list was also very informal at first. In 1954, Hurricanes Carol, Edna, and Hazel were so devastating, that the Weather Bureau decided to leave their names off any lists for ten years. Carol and Edna were eventually reintroduced and used, but in 1969 it was decided at the Intergovernmental Hurricane Warning Conference to re-retire those names, this time indefinitely, which is why those names are highlighted in red and the year of their last use is given. The problem with Gracie is that documentation of any decision may be lacking. Notes from the Intergovernmental Conference, where such a decision would've been made, were not regularly published, as they are now. There is no mention of the name's retirement in the seasonal summary by Gordon Dunn. There might be some records at NHC that might document this, so I am leaving Gracie on our list unless we can find out otherwise. Say goodnight, Gracie. Neal M. Dorst AOML/HRD webmaster
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Over the past few months i have been working on a new version of this article, and now it is almost ready to be published, except i dont know what would be the best way to do it. Jason Rees ( talk) 17:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I wonder if there is a way to find out what country actually did the retiring of the storms, and highlight it in the areas affected. In some cases, such as Katrina 2005, it is probably obvious (but would still be OR if not sourced), while others it may not be if many were affected without an extreme hit. CrazyC83 ( talk) 02:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
That's it through the lede. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
More comments.
That's it in "Background". --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:26, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed a number of discrepancies in the death and damage numbers this article includes with those of their respective hurricanes' articles. I don't particularly feel like going through each article and seeing which side has the correct numbers, but that should probably be done. — 烏Γ ( kaw), 03:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Recently there seems has been some debate as to what makes a hurricane the "most intense" for each decade. It is generally agreed upon that barometric pressure determines what the most intense storm is, rather than wind speed. For the 2010s decade, even though the National Hurricane Center says that Matthew is the strongest Atlantic hurricane since Felix in 2007, both Igor and Joaquin had lower barometric pressures than Matthew. It doesn't seem to make sense that an exception be made for Matthew, because it undermines the consistency of the article. -- Undescribed ( talk) 20:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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@ Jason Rees: Why do you say it "works a lot better" to break up the table of hurricanes into decades? The whole point of a sortable table is to organize all the entries along the lines of particular fields, and breaking up the table defeats that purpose. If I want to know how many hurricane names have been retired for each letter of the alphabet, or what are the highest and lowest wind speeds and death and damage totals for hurricanes that led to a retired name, all of this was easy using the sortable features once I had combined the separated decadal tables into a single table. You undid this work saying that it "works a lot better" the old way. Please identify what exactly it is that works better. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 11:56, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
FWIW, I agree with having one big table, with the interesting narrative in an independent section before the table. Some wouldn't be needed to put there, like the deadliest storm of the 80's. Hurricanehink mobile ( talk) 12:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to include the replacement names in this list? For example:
Name | Dates active | Peak classification | Sustained wind speeds |
Pressure | Areas affected | Deaths | Damage (USD) |
Replacement name | Refs |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Igor | September 8 – 21, 2010 | Category 4 hurricane | 155 mph (250 km/h) | 924 hPa (27.29 inHg) | Bermuda, Newfoundland | 4 | $200 million | Ian | [1] |
Tomas | October 29 – November 7, 2010 | Category 2 hurricane | 100 mph (155 km/h) | 982 hPa (29.00 inHg) | Caribbean | 44 | $348 million | Tobias | [2] |
Irene | August 21 – 28, 2011 | Category 3 hurricane | 120 mph (195 km/h) | 942 hPa (27.82 inHg) | Caribbean, Bahamas, United States East Coast, Eastern Canada | 58 | $14.2 billion | Irma | [3] [4] [5] [6] |
Sandy | October 22 – 29, 2012 | Category 3 hurricane | 115 mph (185 km/h) | 940 hPa (27.76 inHg) | Caribbean, Bahamas, United States East Coast, Eastern Canada | 234 | $68.7 billion | Sara | [3] [7] [8] |
Ingrid | September 12 – 17, 2013 | Category 1 hurricane | 85 mph (140 km/h) | 983 hPa (29.03 inHg) | Mexico | 32 | $1.5 billion | Imelda | [4] [9] |
Erika | August 24 – 28, 2015 | Tropical storm | 50 mph (85 km/h) | 1001 hPa (29.56 inHg) | Lesser Antilles, Hispaniola | 35 | $511 million | Elsa |
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Could you please update the image of the map of retired names? It really needs to show Ingrid, Erika, Joaquin, Matthew, Otto, and the names that are retired from 2017. Please update the map after the RA IV Hurricane Commitee in April 2018. Please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:401:C400:357:D905:4CA:467:CA5F ( talk) 00:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@ Paintspot: To list the names by letter strikes me as pretty redundant to the main list, since you can sort the names into Alphabetical Order - it maybe by decades at the moment but for reasons listed above, we should get the list into one section at some point rather than it up into various sections. Also you stated within your edit summary that you thought it was nice, which doesn't tell me about what your thinking and goes against the advice contained within Wikipedia:I_just_don't_like_it. Jason Rees ( talk) 12:07, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Has anyone (any time in this list article's history) proposed adding a new column in the table whose definition is replacement name?? Example:
The row that mentions Katrina says:
Katrina August 23 – 30, 2005 Category 5 hurricane 175 mph (280 km/h) 902 hPa (26.64 inHg) Bahamas, United States Gulf Coast 1,836 $125 billion
However, in the column we're discussing; Katrina's row should say "Katia". Any thoughts on this column?? (If I'm not told otherwise in the first response to this post, I'll assume that no one ever talked about discussing a column of this kind.) Georgia guy ( talk) 18:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, is there any reason why the tables are set to 100% width? This parameter looks comically large and decreases readability on larger screens. WMSR ( talk) 20:58, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Apologies if this is a dumb question - there is currently a hurricane by the name of Dora off the coast of Hawaii [2]. Is this name not retired, or is it only retired for the Atlanic?
Relevant links: Hurricane Dora 213.105.99.162 ( talk) 14:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
I am guessing that no-one caught that the name Dora appeared on both the EPAC list of names and the Atlantic list of retired names. We will see if it remains the case, when the Hurricane Committee meets next year. Jason Rees ( talk) 15:41, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
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1960s | D60 | C61 | H61 | F63 | C64 | D64 | H64 | B65 | I66 | B67 | C69 | |||||
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1990s | D90 | K90 | B91 | A92 | L95 | M95 | O95 | R95 | C96 | F96 | H96 | G98 | M98 | F99 | L99 | |
2000s | K00 | A01 | I01 | M01 | I02 | L02 | F03 | I03 | J03 | C04 | F04 | I04 | ||||
J04 | D05 | K05 | R05 | S05 | W05 | D07 | F07 | N07 | G08 | I08 | P08 | |||||
2010s | I10 | T10 | I11 | S12 | I13 | E15 | J15 | M16 | O16 | H17 | I17 | M17 | N17 | F18 | M18 | D19 |
2020s | L20 | η20 | ι20 |
The press release indicates 70 names were retired, but we are getting 71 with the new additions. There was a previous mention that Gracie in 59 might not have been retired, and indeed the NHC does not include it; the 2007 names have been added, though. Does anyone have any word whether Gracie was retired, since it's looking like it isn't. ♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 21:50, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I got a very good reply from the webmaster at the Hurricane Research Division. Here was my email.
In the AOML FAQ for retired hurricane names, I notice you include Hurricane Gracie in 1959 as one of the retired names - http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/B3.html. However, the National Hurricane Center clearly does not include it in their list of retired names - http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/retirednames.shtml. Additionally, a recent press release announcing the retirement of 2007 storm names indicates that only 70 names have been retired - http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080513_stormnames.html. The list on your site has 68 names, which, adding the 2007 names, would total to 71. Could you provide some clarification, as this issue is confusing.
And here is the reply.
Mr. Hink, Thanks for catching that. I didn't write the original list of retired names which makes up this FAQ, so I am cc'ing the original authors and NHC's webmaster in hopes of clarifying this. Gracie may not have officially been retired, but it has been retired de facto, since the name was never reintroduced. The use of women's names for Atlantic hurricanes began in 1953, and for the first decade the composition of the name lists was very informal. For the first couple of years they used the same list, then began to change them around but not in any organized fashion. It wasn't until 1964 that they employed rotating lists of names. The retirement of names from the list was also very informal at first. In 1954, Hurricanes Carol, Edna, and Hazel were so devastating, that the Weather Bureau decided to leave their names off any lists for ten years. Carol and Edna were eventually reintroduced and used, but in 1969 it was decided at the Intergovernmental Hurricane Warning Conference to re-retire those names, this time indefinitely, which is why those names are highlighted in red and the year of their last use is given. The problem with Gracie is that documentation of any decision may be lacking. Notes from the Intergovernmental Conference, where such a decision would've been made, were not regularly published, as they are now. There is no mention of the name's retirement in the seasonal summary by Gordon Dunn. There might be some records at NHC that might document this, so I am leaving Gracie on our list unless we can find out otherwise. Say goodnight, Gracie. Neal M. Dorst AOML/HRD webmaster
♬♩ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Over the past few months i have been working on a new version of this article, and now it is almost ready to be published, except i dont know what would be the best way to do it. Jason Rees ( talk) 17:08, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I wonder if there is a way to find out what country actually did the retiring of the storms, and highlight it in the areas affected. In some cases, such as Katrina 2005, it is probably obvious (but would still be OR if not sourced), while others it may not be if many were affected without an extreme hit. CrazyC83 ( talk) 02:34, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
That's it through the lede. --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 23:04, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
More comments.
That's it in "Background". --♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 00:26, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I've noticed a number of discrepancies in the death and damage numbers this article includes with those of their respective hurricanes' articles. I don't particularly feel like going through each article and seeing which side has the correct numbers, but that should probably be done. — 烏Γ ( kaw), 03:39, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Recently there seems has been some debate as to what makes a hurricane the "most intense" for each decade. It is generally agreed upon that barometric pressure determines what the most intense storm is, rather than wind speed. For the 2010s decade, even though the National Hurricane Center says that Matthew is the strongest Atlantic hurricane since Felix in 2007, both Igor and Joaquin had lower barometric pressures than Matthew. It doesn't seem to make sense that an exception be made for Matthew, because it undermines the consistency of the article. -- Undescribed ( talk) 20:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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@ Jason Rees: Why do you say it "works a lot better" to break up the table of hurricanes into decades? The whole point of a sortable table is to organize all the entries along the lines of particular fields, and breaking up the table defeats that purpose. If I want to know how many hurricane names have been retired for each letter of the alphabet, or what are the highest and lowest wind speeds and death and damage totals for hurricanes that led to a retired name, all of this was easy using the sortable features once I had combined the separated decadal tables into a single table. You undid this work saying that it "works a lot better" the old way. Please identify what exactly it is that works better. -- BlueMoonlet ( t/ c) 11:56, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
FWIW, I agree with having one big table, with the interesting narrative in an independent section before the table. Some wouldn't be needed to put there, like the deadliest storm of the 80's. Hurricanehink mobile ( talk) 12:16, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Would it be a good idea to include the replacement names in this list? For example:
Name | Dates active | Peak classification | Sustained wind speeds |
Pressure | Areas affected | Deaths | Damage (USD) |
Replacement name | Refs |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Igor | September 8 – 21, 2010 | Category 4 hurricane | 155 mph (250 km/h) | 924 hPa (27.29 inHg) | Bermuda, Newfoundland | 4 | $200 million | Ian | [1] |
Tomas | October 29 – November 7, 2010 | Category 2 hurricane | 100 mph (155 km/h) | 982 hPa (29.00 inHg) | Caribbean | 44 | $348 million | Tobias | [2] |
Irene | August 21 – 28, 2011 | Category 3 hurricane | 120 mph (195 km/h) | 942 hPa (27.82 inHg) | Caribbean, Bahamas, United States East Coast, Eastern Canada | 58 | $14.2 billion | Irma | [3] [4] [5] [6] |
Sandy | October 22 – 29, 2012 | Category 3 hurricane | 115 mph (185 km/h) | 940 hPa (27.76 inHg) | Caribbean, Bahamas, United States East Coast, Eastern Canada | 234 | $68.7 billion | Sara | [3] [7] [8] |
Ingrid | September 12 – 17, 2013 | Category 1 hurricane | 85 mph (140 km/h) | 983 hPa (29.03 inHg) | Mexico | 32 | $1.5 billion | Imelda | [4] [9] |
Erika | August 24 – 28, 2015 | Tropical storm | 50 mph (85 km/h) | 1001 hPa (29.56 inHg) | Lesser Antilles, Hispaniola | 35 | $511 million | Elsa |
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Could you please update the image of the map of retired names? It really needs to show Ingrid, Erika, Joaquin, Matthew, Otto, and the names that are retired from 2017. Please update the map after the RA IV Hurricane Commitee in April 2018. Please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:401:C400:357:D905:4CA:467:CA5F ( talk) 00:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
@ Paintspot: To list the names by letter strikes me as pretty redundant to the main list, since you can sort the names into Alphabetical Order - it maybe by decades at the moment but for reasons listed above, we should get the list into one section at some point rather than it up into various sections. Also you stated within your edit summary that you thought it was nice, which doesn't tell me about what your thinking and goes against the advice contained within Wikipedia:I_just_don't_like_it. Jason Rees ( talk) 12:07, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Has anyone (any time in this list article's history) proposed adding a new column in the table whose definition is replacement name?? Example:
The row that mentions Katrina says:
Katrina August 23 – 30, 2005 Category 5 hurricane 175 mph (280 km/h) 902 hPa (26.64 inHg) Bahamas, United States Gulf Coast 1,836 $125 billion
However, in the column we're discussing; Katrina's row should say "Katia". Any thoughts on this column?? (If I'm not told otherwise in the first response to this post, I'll assume that no one ever talked about discussing a column of this kind.) Georgia guy ( talk) 18:41, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi all, is there any reason why the tables are set to 100% width? This parameter looks comically large and decreases readability on larger screens. WMSR ( talk) 20:58, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
Apologies if this is a dumb question - there is currently a hurricane by the name of Dora off the coast of Hawaii [2]. Is this name not retired, or is it only retired for the Atlanic?
Relevant links: Hurricane Dora 213.105.99.162 ( talk) 14:09, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
I am guessing that no-one caught that the name Dora appeared on both the EPAC list of names and the Atlantic list of retired names. We will see if it remains the case, when the Hurricane Committee meets next year. Jason Rees ( talk) 15:41, 11 August 2023 (UTC)