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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of Vice Presidents of the United States which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 23:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
(Tyler considered slavery evil,[citation needed] but he never freed any of his slaves and consistently supported slavery and its expansion during his time in political office.) This Piece of information doesn't make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzendaya ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
This topic was vandalized to add Donald Trump to this list. Funny as a parlor game but not appropriate here. I tried to fix it back but my Wiki skills are not up to snuff. I hope someone else will complete it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C3:897F:A018:CE2:78E6:B011:75EE ( talk) 03:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I would like to propose that we change the article to use "enslaved person/people" instead of "slave". ZappoMan ( talk) 18:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Here are some references discussing how and why historians are moving toward this language convention.
http://www.buffalolib.org/sites/default/files/exhibit/pdf/Vocab%20&%20Key%20Concepts%20-%20mc.pdf
"Enslaved vs. Slave: Today, most historians speak of “enslaved people” instead of “slaves.” This language separates a person's identity from his/her circumstance.
Enslaver vs. Owner/Master: The usage of “owner” or “master” empowers the enslaver and dehumanizes the enslaved person reducing him/her to a commodity rather than a person who has had slavery imposed upon him or her." ZappoMan ( talk) 18:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Also change "own" to e.g. "kidnap". You cannot own a person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdaviscs ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
In looking at User:ZappoMan's change on July 2 (this one: Special:Redirect/revision/965671557), it seems less controversial than the proposed noun change from "slave" to "enslaved person". Rev 965671557 changes the verb from "owning" to "enslaving", which seems like a legitimate shift. Does anyone believe that the financial aspect (ownership) is more significant than the resulting captivity (enslavement)? -- RobLa ( talk) 01:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
so i've changed it accordingly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.232.5 ( talk) 06:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of Vice Presidents of the United States which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 23:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
(Tyler considered slavery evil,[citation needed] but he never freed any of his slaves and consistently supported slavery and its expansion during his time in political office.) This Piece of information doesn't make sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzendaya ( talk • contribs) 00:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
This topic was vandalized to add Donald Trump to this list. Funny as a parlor game but not appropriate here. I tried to fix it back but my Wiki skills are not up to snuff. I hope someone else will complete it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C3:897F:A018:CE2:78E6:B011:75EE ( talk) 03:26, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
I would like to propose that we change the article to use "enslaved person/people" instead of "slave". ZappoMan ( talk) 18:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Here are some references discussing how and why historians are moving toward this language convention.
http://www.buffalolib.org/sites/default/files/exhibit/pdf/Vocab%20&%20Key%20Concepts%20-%20mc.pdf
"Enslaved vs. Slave: Today, most historians speak of “enslaved people” instead of “slaves.” This language separates a person's identity from his/her circumstance.
Enslaver vs. Owner/Master: The usage of “owner” or “master” empowers the enslaver and dehumanizes the enslaved person reducing him/her to a commodity rather than a person who has had slavery imposed upon him or her." ZappoMan ( talk) 18:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Also change "own" to e.g. "kidnap". You cannot own a person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdaviscs ( talk • contribs) 13:45, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
In looking at User:ZappoMan's change on July 2 (this one: Special:Redirect/revision/965671557), it seems less controversial than the proposed noun change from "slave" to "enslaved person". Rev 965671557 changes the verb from "owning" to "enslaving", which seems like a legitimate shift. Does anyone believe that the financial aspect (ownership) is more significant than the resulting captivity (enslavement)? -- RobLa ( talk) 01:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
so i've changed it accordingly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.232.5 ( talk) 06:11, 21 May 2022 (UTC)