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I was thinking we could probably remove the prefix "fmr." from the "Positions held" under the list of former politicians. Also, we could list people by office, rather than alphabetically. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew238 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 October 2005
Does "foreign-born" include US citizens born elsewhere, who were citizens because parents were citizens or were born on US territory in a foreign country (military base, embassy, etc)?— Markles 00:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is he included? Is it because he was born in the USA and not the US, or because he was adopted? Emir of Wikipedia ( talk) 15:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
John Mcain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was under U.S. control and that territory had its own flag that wasn't directly related to the U.S. flag nor Panama flag, which is the one used. I say that they should use the place name and possible flag from the era the person was born, because there is someone born in the Danish West Indies and not in the U.S. Virgin Islands. So, that person's section should have the label "Danish West Indies" and the Danish flag instead of the USVI and its flag as they weren't born recently but decades, a century or so ago in places that may not be that which we know them as today. -- Sion8 ( talk) 06:37, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Noted that 31st VP Charles Curtis was born in Kansas Territory an incorporated territory if not a state (pre-statehood). Is he foreign born? Hugo999 ( talk) 05:14, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Tom Lantos could not have been a citizen by birth, having lived through the Holocaust in Europe. However, I can't change it because while I think it was through naturalization, since he came to the U.S. as a university student and not a dependent, I don't have documentation. Anyone? Bruxism ( talk) 04:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
I came to this article looking for the most interesting "foreign-born" question in US politics -- which presidential candidates were born outside the United States? This article should be expanded to include that section. Off the top of my head, it would include George Romney, John McCain, Ted Cruz, and Michael Bennet. (But not Barack Obama, who was born in Hawaii, dammit.) There are also interesting questions about Tulsi Gabbard, Barry Goldwater, Charles Evans Hughes, and President Chester Arthur. Karichisholm ( talk) 07:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Should politicians be listed more than once if they held multiple positions? The list is heavily inconsistent on that at this point. For example, John Sununu, who was both a governor and a cabinet secretary, is only listed under the latter, while George Romney, who was both a governor and a cabinet secretary, is listed under both. I believe we should only list politicians once, based on the highest office they held, with the order being President>Vice President>Senator>Representative>Cabinet>Governor>Mayor>State legislator>Other. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Why is former NH Governor and Bush 41 Administration Chief of Statf John H. Sununu listed as having obtained his U.S. citizenship through derivation? While he was born in Cuba, his father was a natural-born U.S. citizen who had lived most of lefe in the U.S. (he and his wife were U.S. residents temprarily in Cuba on business), and under the laws in place at the time John was a U.S. citizen at birth. How could John have become a U.S. citizen by derivation when his father already was a U.S. citizen when he was born? AuH2ORepublican ( talk) 04:19, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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I was thinking we could probably remove the prefix "fmr." from the "Positions held" under the list of former politicians. Also, we could list people by office, rather than alphabetically. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthew238 ( talk • contribs) 14:14, 24 October 2005
Does "foreign-born" include US citizens born elsewhere, who were citizens because parents were citizens or were born on US territory in a foreign country (military base, embassy, etc)?— Markles 00:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is he included? Is it because he was born in the USA and not the US, or because he was adopted? Emir of Wikipedia ( talk) 15:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
John Mcain was born in the Panama Canal Zone when it was under U.S. control and that territory had its own flag that wasn't directly related to the U.S. flag nor Panama flag, which is the one used. I say that they should use the place name and possible flag from the era the person was born, because there is someone born in the Danish West Indies and not in the U.S. Virgin Islands. So, that person's section should have the label "Danish West Indies" and the Danish flag instead of the USVI and its flag as they weren't born recently but decades, a century or so ago in places that may not be that which we know them as today. -- Sion8 ( talk) 06:37, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
Noted that 31st VP Charles Curtis was born in Kansas Territory an incorporated territory if not a state (pre-statehood). Is he foreign born? Hugo999 ( talk) 05:14, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Tom Lantos could not have been a citizen by birth, having lived through the Holocaust in Europe. However, I can't change it because while I think it was through naturalization, since he came to the U.S. as a university student and not a dependent, I don't have documentation. Anyone? Bruxism ( talk) 04:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
I came to this article looking for the most interesting "foreign-born" question in US politics -- which presidential candidates were born outside the United States? This article should be expanded to include that section. Off the top of my head, it would include George Romney, John McCain, Ted Cruz, and Michael Bennet. (But not Barack Obama, who was born in Hawaii, dammit.) There are also interesting questions about Tulsi Gabbard, Barry Goldwater, Charles Evans Hughes, and President Chester Arthur. Karichisholm ( talk) 07:07, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Should politicians be listed more than once if they held multiple positions? The list is heavily inconsistent on that at this point. For example, John Sununu, who was both a governor and a cabinet secretary, is only listed under the latter, while George Romney, who was both a governor and a cabinet secretary, is listed under both. I believe we should only list politicians once, based on the highest office they held, with the order being President>Vice President>Senator>Representative>Cabinet>Governor>Mayor>State legislator>Other. Curbon7 ( talk) 01:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Why is former NH Governor and Bush 41 Administration Chief of Statf John H. Sununu listed as having obtained his U.S. citizenship through derivation? While he was born in Cuba, his father was a natural-born U.S. citizen who had lived most of lefe in the U.S. (he and his wife were U.S. residents temprarily in Cuba on business), and under the laws in place at the time John was a U.S. citizen at birth. How could John have become a U.S. citizen by derivation when his father already was a U.S. citizen when he was born? AuH2ORepublican ( talk) 04:19, 18 July 2021 (UTC)