This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
List of first-level administrative divisions by area article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 28 days |
This article is rated List-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article was nominated for deletion on 17 November 2021. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Recently we've been adding a lot if subdivisions in this page, going all the way into Nenets, with around ~170,000 km², but I have been seeing attempts to remove all those subdivisions and only leave the ones with an area more than 200,000 km², why?
I mean, I don't see any cons on putting administrative regions below 200,000 km², in fact, I only see pros, since there can be more variety in this page to keep who is seeing more interested, your typical Chinese, American, Brazillian, Russian and Canadian subdivisions make most of this list, and subdivisions between 200,000 km² and 150,000 km² include more Mexican, Algerian, Angolan subdivisions and etc.
My point here is, what is so problematic about adding these administrative regions below 200,000 km² that you guys keep removing it?
Daniboy0826 (
talk) 20:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
There has been multiple edits recently adding and removing England from this list, and I have seen some arguments over this.
Some say that
England should be here, because it falls into the category of the first administrative divisions of the
UK, that being the
constituent countries, then the
counties/shires, then the
districts, then the
civil parishes. Also, the fact that
Greenland is here, marked as a subdivision of the
Danish Realm, alongside with metropolitan
Denmark and the
Faroe Islands, supports this claim.
But there's people saying it that the
constituent countries of the UK aren't exacly "
subdivisions", and that they are more like things of their own, since the UK has three distinct legal jusridictions in
Scotland,
England and Wales, and
Northern Ireland, each retaining its own legal system even after joining the
UK, and that the real
First-Level Administrative Regions of the UK are the
counties/shires. In Reddit, I've even seen some people calling them "0th-Level Administrative Regions", although this argument is without support.
Daniboy0826 (
talk) 17:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I feel like there should be articles listing first-level administrative divisions by population and GDP (which I think are more interesting than just area). I note that this article has population figures, but it doesn't rank by them. Does it make sense to split out two separate pages for administrative divisions by population and GDP, or to somehow consolidate them? Rxtreme ( talk) 12:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Do we really need the second summary table at the bottom? It ranks countries by the number of subdivisions they have on the page (which lists the top 380), which is a completely arbitrary bar to meet. If the list were longer, eventually Slovenia and its 212 občine would pull out on top, just because it has the most total subdivisions. Why do we need this table at all? I could understand if it included number of subdivisions within a certain size range, but right now it's completely silly. iRDM 05:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
To help reduce clutter: Instead of stating the unit of area ( square kilometer, km2) at the top of each table; how about we just state, at the top of the relevant column, "Area (km2)", so that we don't hav to keep stating the unit? Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 00:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
List of first-level administrative divisions by area article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1Auto-archiving period: 28 days |
This article is rated List-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
This article was nominated for deletion on 17 November 2021. The result of the discussion was keep. |
Recently we've been adding a lot if subdivisions in this page, going all the way into Nenets, with around ~170,000 km², but I have been seeing attempts to remove all those subdivisions and only leave the ones with an area more than 200,000 km², why?
I mean, I don't see any cons on putting administrative regions below 200,000 km², in fact, I only see pros, since there can be more variety in this page to keep who is seeing more interested, your typical Chinese, American, Brazillian, Russian and Canadian subdivisions make most of this list, and subdivisions between 200,000 km² and 150,000 km² include more Mexican, Algerian, Angolan subdivisions and etc.
My point here is, what is so problematic about adding these administrative regions below 200,000 km² that you guys keep removing it?
Daniboy0826 (
talk) 20:16, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
There has been multiple edits recently adding and removing England from this list, and I have seen some arguments over this.
Some say that
England should be here, because it falls into the category of the first administrative divisions of the
UK, that being the
constituent countries, then the
counties/shires, then the
districts, then the
civil parishes. Also, the fact that
Greenland is here, marked as a subdivision of the
Danish Realm, alongside with metropolitan
Denmark and the
Faroe Islands, supports this claim.
But there's people saying it that the
constituent countries of the UK aren't exacly "
subdivisions", and that they are more like things of their own, since the UK has three distinct legal jusridictions in
Scotland,
England and Wales, and
Northern Ireland, each retaining its own legal system even after joining the
UK, and that the real
First-Level Administrative Regions of the UK are the
counties/shires. In Reddit, I've even seen some people calling them "0th-Level Administrative Regions", although this argument is without support.
Daniboy0826 (
talk) 17:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
I feel like there should be articles listing first-level administrative divisions by population and GDP (which I think are more interesting than just area). I note that this article has population figures, but it doesn't rank by them. Does it make sense to split out two separate pages for administrative divisions by population and GDP, or to somehow consolidate them? Rxtreme ( talk) 12:17, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
Do we really need the second summary table at the bottom? It ranks countries by the number of subdivisions they have on the page (which lists the top 380), which is a completely arbitrary bar to meet. If the list were longer, eventually Slovenia and its 212 občine would pull out on top, just because it has the most total subdivisions. Why do we need this table at all? I could understand if it included number of subdivisions within a certain size range, but right now it's completely silly. iRDM 05:21, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
To help reduce clutter: Instead of stating the unit of area ( square kilometer, km2) at the top of each table; how about we just state, at the top of the relevant column, "Area (km2)", so that we don't hav to keep stating the unit? Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 00:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)