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Hi folks,
I'm sure there's a good reason for this, but why is Fellini's movie 8½ described using 'frac' i.e. with {{
frac|8|1|2
}}
(8+1⁄2)?
This seems to offer little improvement over the actual Unicode 'half' character ('½') which is used in the wikilink anyway. If a user's system doesn't support ½, then it won't be able to open the link to that article – though I suppose in that edge case, you could argue that at least this article might display OK even if the link doesn't work.
If Unicode is a stretch, how about an HTML entity? They've been a W3C recommendation since 1999, so unlikely to cause even the oldest of web-capable devices to break a sweat. That would make the film's title 8½
in the source, which is pretty human-readable if you can't have "8½".
I wouldn't have noticed if 'frac' worked. But on my Mac (running Firefox on Mac OS 11 Big Sur) the text appeared initially as "8 1/2", then after I looked at the source and subsequently cancelled, it started appering as "8+1/2"!
Looks like an issue with Template:Fraction, the Mediawiki codebase, or perhaps something else. The source for Template:Fraction appears to be here. /info/en/?search=Template:Fraction/styles.css
Genuinely wondering why we need so much space dedicated to some of the least populous areas of the globe Alena 33 ( talk) 09:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
NEWS SIDEBAR: `The 50 Greatest Jewish Movies’ Espngeek ( talk) 18:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
@
TheTechLich: Have either of
Logan or
The Batman topped any notable polls declaring them the best superhero film? That's the threshold for inclusion here, see the "Basic guidelines for inclusion" above. Whether the films are regarded as among the so-called "greats"
is beside the point.
TompaDompa (
talk)
15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 17:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
List of films considered the best →
List of films voted the best – The current title has long been recognized as being far from ideal. The inclusion criteria are, and have for a long time been, that the movie in question must have been voted the best in a notable poll. Indeed, the
WP:LEAD states that This is a list of films considered the best in national and international
surveys of
critics and the public.
The proposed new title better reflects the actual contents of the list, and may also be helpful in preventing the addition of entries that do not meet the inclusion criteria.
TompaDompa (
talk) 18:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.
Safari Scribe
Edits!
Talk!
19:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawn alternative titles
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really what the article consists of", I'd have to disagree. The term "rank" or "ranked" appears 32 times in the article, which is still a lot less than than "voted" (175 times), but it's still a significant number nevertheless. When we talk about where something places in an opinion poll, we can refer to its ranking in that poll. Makes perfect sense to me, but I respect your opinion. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 20:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Vertigo (1958) was ranked number 1 with 39 votes when German film magazine Steadycam [de] asked 174 critics and filmmakers to vote for their favorite films
Time Out (magazine) is referenced a lot on the page, for instance: " Brief Encounter (1945) was voted the best romance film of all time with 25 votes in a 2013 poll of 101 experts conducted by Time Out London." One of the experts is Miss Piggy. Many "experts" appear to have no relationship to the romance genre, beyond sometimes being in the film industry. The use of experts here appears to be an example of WP:WEASEL. Rollinginhisgrave ( talk) 05:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
This is the
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Basic guidelines for inclusion This article took a good deal of effort by many people to reach its current form. If you would like to add a film to this article, please follow the guidelines below. Failure to follow these guidelines may result in the film being removed from the list.
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This article was nominated for
deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.
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On 13 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from List of films considered the best to List of films voted the best. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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This page has archives. Sections older than 180 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 4 sections are present. |
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Hi folks,
I'm sure there's a good reason for this, but why is Fellini's movie 8½ described using 'frac' i.e. with {{
frac|8|1|2
}}
(8+1⁄2)?
This seems to offer little improvement over the actual Unicode 'half' character ('½') which is used in the wikilink anyway. If a user's system doesn't support ½, then it won't be able to open the link to that article – though I suppose in that edge case, you could argue that at least this article might display OK even if the link doesn't work.
If Unicode is a stretch, how about an HTML entity? They've been a W3C recommendation since 1999, so unlikely to cause even the oldest of web-capable devices to break a sweat. That would make the film's title 8½
in the source, which is pretty human-readable if you can't have "8½".
I wouldn't have noticed if 'frac' worked. But on my Mac (running Firefox on Mac OS 11 Big Sur) the text appeared initially as "8 1/2", then after I looked at the source and subsequently cancelled, it started appering as "8+1/2"!
Looks like an issue with Template:Fraction, the Mediawiki codebase, or perhaps something else. The source for Template:Fraction appears to be here. /info/en/?search=Template:Fraction/styles.css
Genuinely wondering why we need so much space dedicated to some of the least populous areas of the globe Alena 33 ( talk) 09:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
NEWS SIDEBAR: `The 50 Greatest Jewish Movies’ Espngeek ( talk) 18:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
@
TheTechLich: Have either of
Logan or
The Batman topped any notable polls declaring them the best superhero film? That's the threshold for inclusion here, see the "Basic guidelines for inclusion" above. Whether the films are regarded as among the so-called "greats"
is beside the point.
TompaDompa (
talk)
15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( non-admin closure) Safari Scribe Edits! Talk! 17:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
List of films considered the best →
List of films voted the best – The current title has long been recognized as being far from ideal. The inclusion criteria are, and have for a long time been, that the movie in question must have been voted the best in a notable poll. Indeed, the
WP:LEAD states that This is a list of films considered the best in national and international
surveys of
critics and the public.
The proposed new title better reflects the actual contents of the list, and may also be helpful in preventing the addition of entries that do not meet the inclusion criteria.
TompaDompa (
talk) 18:51, 13 June 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.
Safari Scribe
Edits!
Talk!
19:25, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawn alternative titles
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really what the article consists of", I'd have to disagree. The term "rank" or "ranked" appears 32 times in the article, which is still a lot less than than "voted" (175 times), but it's still a significant number nevertheless. When we talk about where something places in an opinion poll, we can refer to its ranking in that poll. Makes perfect sense to me, but I respect your opinion. -- GoneIn60 ( talk) 20:14, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Vertigo (1958) was ranked number 1 with 39 votes when German film magazine Steadycam [de] asked 174 critics and filmmakers to vote for their favorite films
Time Out (magazine) is referenced a lot on the page, for instance: " Brief Encounter (1945) was voted the best romance film of all time with 25 votes in a 2013 poll of 101 experts conducted by Time Out London." One of the experts is Miss Piggy. Many "experts" appear to have no relationship to the romance genre, beyond sometimes being in the film industry. The use of experts here appears to be an example of WP:WEASEL. Rollinginhisgrave ( talk) 05:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)