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List of Indian film director and actor collaborations was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 19 January 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of film director and actor collaborations. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
This list, while interesting, is very long and in no particular order. Some kind of organization would be good, and a good start is alphabetizing the list by Director name. Doc502 20:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Interesting list, but what's the criteria for inclusion? When is a film director and actor collaboration regarded as "noted"? And who decides which collaborations are noted enough to be added to the list? Masaruemoto 20:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Although this is an old discussion, it's probably worth bringing up again. A lot of this clutter could be removed by making an appearance in two separate "franchises" part of the criteria for inclusion. We really don't need to see how David Yates collaborated with every Harry Potter cast member, only on the last four films. -- ProfessorKilroy ( talk) 05:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Actor, Writer and a Film Producer at IYP FILMS Sam.ntsane ( talk) 11:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Per the conclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Indian film director and actor collaborations, the subject list has been merged into List of film director and actor collaborations. As @ Clarityfiend: suggested in the AfD, I have gone ahead and removed Indian collaborations which were lesser than 5. 5 is just an arbitrary number I chose now. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { Talk / Edits} 05:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
It's clear the inclusion criteria is far too low. Ideally we would cite a source describing each collaboration has notable, but for now I think we can limit this to at least four distinct films with the same actor and director. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 23:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Kpwarden: Let's keep this article to include a minimum of four films that an actor and director have collaborated with. Otherwise we're just going to be including too much. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 00:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
This is a link to the old version that is entirely unsourced content. This does not mean that the content is invalid, but due to the indiscriminate nature, there needs to be noteworthiness independently established, not just editors eyeballing people's filmographies. This link can be used to look up references and to restore mention to the article with a citation. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 13:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Editors can use IMDb's Collaborations Search to list films if the existing source is not comprehensive on that front. You can use the "Two People in the Same Title" search box. After a search, delete the part of the URL after "title_type=feature" and press Enter to get the tighter filter. You can then sort by "Year". I recommend checking each film's cast quickly for the actor's presence since sometimes the actor can have another role, like producer. (Added: Also, the director may not be the director in a particular collaboration, but this can be eyeballed quickly in the listing.) Pinging Clarityfiend since they have made significant improvements and may like to know about this. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
i think they should go under same rules like hollywood directors. why does the colaborations need to me minimum 5 movies when like james cameron and arnold only make like 4 movies and still on the list . same goes with george lukas and harrison ford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinav254 ( talk • contribs) 07:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Now that the AfD has closed as keep, we should establish a local consensus for inclusion criteria for this list, particularly since it has existed for so many years in an unsourced state. We have a few options and can combine them:
I had based the overhaul on list-based reliable sources (#4) and prefer that at minimum. I think if a collaboration has not been part of a list, we should require multiple reliable sources (maybe three) (#3). I feel like otherwise, the bar is too low to find one source (#2) that states that an actor and a director have collaborated. As for #1, I feel like that may be too arbitrary and may exclude otherwise-noteworthy collaborations. Whatever we can agree on, I can add a template to the top of the talk page outlining the inclusion criteria to point to. What do other editors think? Pinging those involved with the AfD discussion and this article. Onetwothreeip, Clarityfiend, Dream Focus, PC78, Betty Logan, Andrew Davidson, *Treker, Barkeep49, Rorshacma, Lugnuts, Jack Cox, Ulric1313, ShelfSkewed. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 01:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
q.v.: Ernst Lubitsch filmography .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 00:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Should be added as a special case - only two films but some 10+ roles in them. 86.63.168.150 ( talk) 21:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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List of Indian film director and actor collaborations was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 19 January 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of film director and actor collaborations. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
This list, while interesting, is very long and in no particular order. Some kind of organization would be good, and a good start is alphabetizing the list by Director name. Doc502 20:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Interesting list, but what's the criteria for inclusion? When is a film director and actor collaboration regarded as "noted"? And who decides which collaborations are noted enough to be added to the list? Masaruemoto 20:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Although this is an old discussion, it's probably worth bringing up again. A lot of this clutter could be removed by making an appearance in two separate "franchises" part of the criteria for inclusion. We really don't need to see how David Yates collaborated with every Harry Potter cast member, only on the last four films. -- ProfessorKilroy ( talk) 05:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Actor, Writer and a Film Producer at IYP FILMS Sam.ntsane ( talk) 11:38, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Per the conclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Indian film director and actor collaborations, the subject list has been merged into List of film director and actor collaborations. As @ Clarityfiend: suggested in the AfD, I have gone ahead and removed Indian collaborations which were lesser than 5. 5 is just an arbitrary number I chose now. §§ Dharmadhyaksha§§ { Talk / Edits} 05:07, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
It's clear the inclusion criteria is far too low. Ideally we would cite a source describing each collaboration has notable, but for now I think we can limit this to at least four distinct films with the same actor and director. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 23:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
@ Kpwarden: Let's keep this article to include a minimum of four films that an actor and director have collaborated with. Otherwise we're just going to be including too much. Onetwothreeip ( talk) 00:39, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
This is a link to the old version that is entirely unsourced content. This does not mean that the content is invalid, but due to the indiscriminate nature, there needs to be noteworthiness independently established, not just editors eyeballing people's filmographies. This link can be used to look up references and to restore mention to the article with a citation. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 13:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Editors can use IMDb's Collaborations Search to list films if the existing source is not comprehensive on that front. You can use the "Two People in the Same Title" search box. After a search, delete the part of the URL after "title_type=feature" and press Enter to get the tighter filter. You can then sort by "Year". I recommend checking each film's cast quickly for the actor's presence since sometimes the actor can have another role, like producer. (Added: Also, the director may not be the director in a particular collaboration, but this can be eyeballed quickly in the listing.) Pinging Clarityfiend since they have made significant improvements and may like to know about this. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 18:34, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
i think they should go under same rules like hollywood directors. why does the colaborations need to me minimum 5 movies when like james cameron and arnold only make like 4 movies and still on the list . same goes with george lukas and harrison ford. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhinav254 ( talk • contribs) 07:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
Now that the AfD has closed as keep, we should establish a local consensus for inclusion criteria for this list, particularly since it has existed for so many years in an unsourced state. We have a few options and can combine them:
I had based the overhaul on list-based reliable sources (#4) and prefer that at minimum. I think if a collaboration has not been part of a list, we should require multiple reliable sources (maybe three) (#3). I feel like otherwise, the bar is too low to find one source (#2) that states that an actor and a director have collaborated. As for #1, I feel like that may be too arbitrary and may exclude otherwise-noteworthy collaborations. Whatever we can agree on, I can add a template to the top of the talk page outlining the inclusion criteria to point to. What do other editors think? Pinging those involved with the AfD discussion and this article. Onetwothreeip, Clarityfiend, Dream Focus, PC78, Betty Logan, Andrew Davidson, *Treker, Barkeep49, Rorshacma, Lugnuts, Jack Cox, Ulric1313, ShelfSkewed. Erik ( talk | contrib) ( ping me) 01:05, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
q.v.: Ernst Lubitsch filmography .... 0mtwb9gd5wx ( talk) 00:39, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Should be added as a special case - only two films but some 10+ roles in them. 86.63.168.150 ( talk) 21:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)