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Make and model | Year | Claimed top speed | Number built | Reason |
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Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 Super Sport | 1946–1951 | 106 mph (171 km/h) |
Unknown | No road test |
Allard J1 and K1 | 1946–1948 | 92 mph (148 km/h) to 93 mph (150 km/h) with one source claiming over 100 mph (161 km/h) |
151 K1's | No road test |
Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato | 1960 | 153.5 mph (247 km/h) |
19 | excluded because of number built |
Barabus TKR | 2006 | 270.0 mph (435 km/h) |
unknown | crashed on record attempt – no record set |
Bugatti Chiron | 2017 | 275 mph (443 km/h) |
70 (500 planned) | excluded because of no road test (260 mph) and removal of speed limiter (275 mph) |
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 World Record Edition | 2010 | 267.557 mph (431 km/h) |
5 | excluded because of number built – see discussion on this articles talk page. Out of the initial production run of 30 there were 5, named the Super Sport World Record Edition, which had the electronic limiter turned off, and were capable of 267.857 mph (431.074 km/h), although Guinness World Records later re-verified the official land speed record. |
Dauer 962 Le Mans | 1994 | 251.4 mph (404.6 km/h) |
13 | not enough built |
Delahaye 135 | 1946–1954 | 100 mph (161 km/h) |
unknown | no road test, numbers unknown, coachbuilt |
Ferrari 340 and 375 America, 410 and 400 Superamerica | 1950–1959 | 149–165 mph (240–265 km/h) |
23, 12, 35, 47 | less than 20 made for 375 America and most 340 Americas were racing cars |
Ferrari 250 GTO | 1962–1964 | 174 mph (280 km/h) |
36 | no independent road test and each car tends to be customised, race car |
Ferrari 500 Superfast | 1964–1966 | 174 mph (280 km/h) |
36 | excluded because of no independent road test [1] |
Hennessey Venom GT | 2010 | 265.7 mph (428 km/h)(2013) 270.49 mph (435 km/h)(2014) |
16 | excluded because of number built and single direction top speed test run |
Hennessey Venom F5 | 2016 | 290 mph (467 km/h) proposed |
30 to be built | unconfirmed numbers and no road test |
Koenigsegg Agera (models R and One:1) | 2011–2014 | 273 mph (439 km/h) to 280 mph (451 km/h) depending on model |
less than 20 for any model | excluded because of numbers built and/or unverified top speed |
Koenigsegg CCR | 2004 | 242 mph (389 km/h) |
14 | excluded because of numbers built |
Lamborghini Countach 5000QV | 1985 | 185 mph (298 km/h) |
speed record already higher | |
Lamborghini Muira P400S | 1969 | 172 mph (277 km/h) |
338 | this model was introduced after the Ferrari Daytona |
Maserati 5000 GT | 1959–1965 | 172.4 mph (277 km/h) claimed – more an estimate than a true measure |
34 but with different bodies | no independent test |
Monteverdi Hai 450 | 1970 | 180 mph (290 km/h) claimed |
only 2 proto-types built, the SS and GTS | no production version |
Ruf CTR2 | 1995 | 217 mph (350 km/h) |
31 | 16 of the 31 CTR2s were normal, while 15 were CTR2 "Sport". Top speed test missing. |
Pegaso Z-102 BS 2.8 Supercharged | 1953 | 151 mph (243 km/h) |
<20 | less than 20 built |
Shelby SuperCars SSC (all models including TT, Ultimate Aero, and Tuatara's) | 2004–2014 | 236 mph (380 km/h)to 276 mph (444 km/h) depending on model |
less than 20 for each model | excluded because of numbers built |
Studebaker Avanti R2 | 1962–1963 | 158 mph (254 km/h) |
unknown for version tested | data on speed tests and configuration of the car tested unknown at this stage |
Studebaker Avanti R3 | 1962–1963 | 171.1 mph (275 km/h) |
6 [2] | insufficient made |
Talbot Lago T26 Record and Grand Sport | 1946–1954 | 105 mph (169 km/h) (Record) and 124 mph (200 km/h) (Grand Sport) |
less than 20 for either model | excluded because of numbers built and lack of independent road test |
Vector W8 | 1990–1993 | 242 mph (389 km/h) for prototype |
17 production models | excluded because of number built and no verified top speed for production model |
Many of these cars have been debated on this articles talk pages. Should more detailed reasoning be required refer to the relevant discussion or raise the issue on the talk page.
"Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ (pre-production prototype) 490.48 km/h (304.77 mph)"
So how fast does the production version go? Esteban Outeiral Dias ( talk) 11:37, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
In the section "top speed measurement" it's written that "the measurement must be done independently". And in fact it is just the opposite. An independent measurement is carried out by the manufacturer itself, such as the Dauer 962 LM in 1998, carried out by the VW group, which helped to develop the car, and therefore, it is not endowed with reliability. 177.91.76.194 ( talk) 00:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
But on this same page it says that the Dauer 962 LM reached 404.6 kph, measured independently in Ehra-Lessien, which suggests that the measurement was carried out by the VW group itself (as Porsche helped to develop the car), and for this reason it is unreliable. So we see that "independent measurement" can have two divergent meanings. The most correct, then, would be to say that "the measurement must be carried out by one or more independent companies", so as not to leave room for double interpretations. Eduardo César Schmidt ( talk) 15:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
If a car company played a major role in the creation of the rules we should be honest and mention it. Drachentötbär ( talk) 01:38, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
We have confirmed VINs TP99620133, TP99620141, TP99620151, TP99620172, TP99620175.
The VINs with WMI TP9 are not not from Porsche so they must be from Dauer. Drachentötbär ( talk) 00:06, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The fact that the Dauer 962 is on the list does not exclude the Mclaren F1, as the Mclaren's 355 kph record was broken much earlier. Eduardo César Schmidt ( talk) 18:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
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Make and model | Year | Claimed top speed | Number built | Reason |
---|---|---|---|---|
Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 Super Sport | 1946–1951 | 106 mph (171 km/h) |
Unknown | No road test |
Allard J1 and K1 | 1946–1948 | 92 mph (148 km/h) to 93 mph (150 km/h) with one source claiming over 100 mph (161 km/h) |
151 K1's | No road test |
Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato | 1960 | 153.5 mph (247 km/h) |
19 | excluded because of number built |
Barabus TKR | 2006 | 270.0 mph (435 km/h) |
unknown | crashed on record attempt – no record set |
Bugatti Chiron | 2017 | 275 mph (443 km/h) |
70 (500 planned) | excluded because of no road test (260 mph) and removal of speed limiter (275 mph) |
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 World Record Edition | 2010 | 267.557 mph (431 km/h) |
5 | excluded because of number built – see discussion on this articles talk page. Out of the initial production run of 30 there were 5, named the Super Sport World Record Edition, which had the electronic limiter turned off, and were capable of 267.857 mph (431.074 km/h), although Guinness World Records later re-verified the official land speed record. |
Dauer 962 Le Mans | 1994 | 251.4 mph (404.6 km/h) |
13 | not enough built |
Delahaye 135 | 1946–1954 | 100 mph (161 km/h) |
unknown | no road test, numbers unknown, coachbuilt |
Ferrari 340 and 375 America, 410 and 400 Superamerica | 1950–1959 | 149–165 mph (240–265 km/h) |
23, 12, 35, 47 | less than 20 made for 375 America and most 340 Americas were racing cars |
Ferrari 250 GTO | 1962–1964 | 174 mph (280 km/h) |
36 | no independent road test and each car tends to be customised, race car |
Ferrari 500 Superfast | 1964–1966 | 174 mph (280 km/h) |
36 | excluded because of no independent road test [1] |
Hennessey Venom GT | 2010 | 265.7 mph (428 km/h)(2013) 270.49 mph (435 km/h)(2014) |
16 | excluded because of number built and single direction top speed test run |
Hennessey Venom F5 | 2016 | 290 mph (467 km/h) proposed |
30 to be built | unconfirmed numbers and no road test |
Koenigsegg Agera (models R and One:1) | 2011–2014 | 273 mph (439 km/h) to 280 mph (451 km/h) depending on model |
less than 20 for any model | excluded because of numbers built and/or unverified top speed |
Koenigsegg CCR | 2004 | 242 mph (389 km/h) |
14 | excluded because of numbers built |
Lamborghini Countach 5000QV | 1985 | 185 mph (298 km/h) |
speed record already higher | |
Lamborghini Muira P400S | 1969 | 172 mph (277 km/h) |
338 | this model was introduced after the Ferrari Daytona |
Maserati 5000 GT | 1959–1965 | 172.4 mph (277 km/h) claimed – more an estimate than a true measure |
34 but with different bodies | no independent test |
Monteverdi Hai 450 | 1970 | 180 mph (290 km/h) claimed |
only 2 proto-types built, the SS and GTS | no production version |
Ruf CTR2 | 1995 | 217 mph (350 km/h) |
31 | 16 of the 31 CTR2s were normal, while 15 were CTR2 "Sport". Top speed test missing. |
Pegaso Z-102 BS 2.8 Supercharged | 1953 | 151 mph (243 km/h) |
<20 | less than 20 built |
Shelby SuperCars SSC (all models including TT, Ultimate Aero, and Tuatara's) | 2004–2014 | 236 mph (380 km/h)to 276 mph (444 km/h) depending on model |
less than 20 for each model | excluded because of numbers built |
Studebaker Avanti R2 | 1962–1963 | 158 mph (254 km/h) |
unknown for version tested | data on speed tests and configuration of the car tested unknown at this stage |
Studebaker Avanti R3 | 1962–1963 | 171.1 mph (275 km/h) |
6 [2] | insufficient made |
Talbot Lago T26 Record and Grand Sport | 1946–1954 | 105 mph (169 km/h) (Record) and 124 mph (200 km/h) (Grand Sport) |
less than 20 for either model | excluded because of numbers built and lack of independent road test |
Vector W8 | 1990–1993 | 242 mph (389 km/h) for prototype |
17 production models | excluded because of number built and no verified top speed for production model |
Many of these cars have been debated on this articles talk pages. Should more detailed reasoning be required refer to the relevant discussion or raise the issue on the talk page.
"Bugatti Chiron Super Sport 300+ (pre-production prototype) 490.48 km/h (304.77 mph)"
So how fast does the production version go? Esteban Outeiral Dias ( talk) 11:37, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
In the section "top speed measurement" it's written that "the measurement must be done independently". And in fact it is just the opposite. An independent measurement is carried out by the manufacturer itself, such as the Dauer 962 LM in 1998, carried out by the VW group, which helped to develop the car, and therefore, it is not endowed with reliability. 177.91.76.194 ( talk) 00:31, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
But on this same page it says that the Dauer 962 LM reached 404.6 kph, measured independently in Ehra-Lessien, which suggests that the measurement was carried out by the VW group itself (as Porsche helped to develop the car), and for this reason it is unreliable. So we see that "independent measurement" can have two divergent meanings. The most correct, then, would be to say that "the measurement must be carried out by one or more independent companies", so as not to leave room for double interpretations. Eduardo César Schmidt ( talk) 15:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
If a car company played a major role in the creation of the rules we should be honest and mention it. Drachentötbär ( talk) 01:38, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
We have confirmed VINs TP99620133, TP99620141, TP99620151, TP99620172, TP99620175.
The VINs with WMI TP9 are not not from Porsche so they must be from Dauer. Drachentötbär ( talk) 00:06, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
The fact that the Dauer 962 is on the list does not exclude the Mclaren F1, as the Mclaren's 355 kph record was broken much earlier. Eduardo César Schmidt ( talk) 18:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)