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What's the inclusion criteria for this page? I just removed Frost as the only one on the list with no Wikipedia article (and no independent sourcing), but what about otherwise? I see Greggs is on the list, and while I've never been to one I see its article lead says "It specialises in savoury products such as pasties, sausage rolls and sandwiches and sweet items including doughnuts and vanilla slices...". So is it sufficient for donuts to be one of the primary products? Does a cronut count? :) --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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Last time this was briefly discussed (several years ago), the weak consensus was to include only those that specialize in doughnuts. This much makes sense.
I would like to take it one step further and limit this to blue link notable shops. The independent, single location shop a couple of blocks from my office is in no way notable. If they closed tomorrow, a few people locally would notice but no one else would care. Over the past 100 years, there have been thousands of such shops and there is no conceivable way to list them all, nor would such a list be in any way encyclopedic.
Thoughts before I clean the list out? - SummerPhD v2.0 17:20, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
After a grueling 3 minutes of work, Daylight Donuts now has a stub. - SummerPhD v2.0 02:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Found this list linked in the "See also" section of the Krispy Kreme article. Clearly difficult to say what counts as a notable store. Not sure where else someone would go if trying to remember a donut shop name from recent travels or from the more distant past. Of the 37 entries, I recognize about 7 (including Psycho Donuts because I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area). Missing is "Happy Donuts" which has many more franchises around here and Los Angeles. Also "Stan's Donuts", which goes way back and still has several locations in its current incarnation. Donut Wheel is missing on the list, though it does have a blue link Wikipedia entry. My personal favorite chain was "Donutland" in eastern Iowa, now down to one remaining shop in Cedar Rapids. No substantial edits here for a few years, so I'm just adding my two cents worth without any strong preferences. Dollars to donuts, somebody else will eventually chime in. Rairden ( talk) 07:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Reminder to add Pip's Original Doughnuts & Chai --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
A few days ago, I added an entry (Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery), after first reading this Talk page, and the Inclusion Criteria. I thought my entry was in agreement with the discussion. However, it got deleted, and I've had some discussion about that on that editor's Talk page.
There seems to be a lot of inconsistency as to what is allowed to remain on this page. It seems strange for my entry to be removed, but to leave Café du Monde on this page - they only serve one kind of doughnut, a beignet - that's hardly a doughnut shop. It should be on a list of well-known cafes, not doughnut shops! My entry, Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery IS a doughnut shop, and is also a far more well-known, and longer established doughnut shop than several of the others included on the page, including Cardigan Doughnuts. Cardigan Doughnuts, established in 2017, does indeed have a wikipedia page, which reads like an advertisement for the shop. I live in the area and never had heard of it until I saw the page. I'm not opposed to Cardigan Doughnuts remaining on the page, but if it does, certainly Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery should be on it. Additionally, when I added my entry, there were other shops included in the list (which another editor subsequently deleted after I questioned his/her deletion of my entry) which did not have links to Wikipedia pages, so although there was some discussion about that, there did not appear to be consensus on that (quite honestly, it seems a strange requirement, given it's only going to encourage self-advertising like the Cardigan Doughnuts page does).
I have no personal link to Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery, other than I've lived in the area for over 50 years, and know it's a well-known, locally owned doughnut shop - google or yelp reviews will back me up on this (I don't know any family members). In fact, it is so well-known, the City of Bloomington did a video (which I included in the citations) commemorating the business, the founding family member, and his current descendants who run the business. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune (link to article was provided) and local neighborhood newspapers have also written about the business. Mpls-St.Paul magazine wrote about it (mspmag.com/eat-and-drink/best-of-local-bakeries/).
This page is titled "List of doughnut shops". As a simple list, it doesn't seem like having a wikipedia page should be required for inclusion. If that is a hard requirement, a more accurate title of the page would be "List of doughnuts shops with wikipedia pages".
When I came across this page, after reading the page AND the Talk page, I thought it was appropriate to add the entry. I question the value of this page, especially given the inconsistencies I've pointed out. Being more inclusive would actually make the page more valuable. 75.73.7.4 ( talk) 16:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Could we look into including Parlor Doughnuts (based out of Indiana but rapidly expanding across the United States) and/or getting a page made for them? They are becoming a pretty noteworthy chain, specializing in their "layered donuts" (essentially a cronut) and as aforementioned, are growing fast. Knorcross ( talk) 17:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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What's the inclusion criteria for this page? I just removed Frost as the only one on the list with no Wikipedia article (and no independent sourcing), but what about otherwise? I see Greggs is on the list, and while I've never been to one I see its article lead says "It specialises in savoury products such as pasties, sausage rolls and sandwiches and sweet items including doughnuts and vanilla slices...". So is it sufficient for donuts to be one of the primary products? Does a cronut count? :) --— Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:32, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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Last time this was briefly discussed (several years ago), the weak consensus was to include only those that specialize in doughnuts. This much makes sense.
I would like to take it one step further and limit this to blue link notable shops. The independent, single location shop a couple of blocks from my office is in no way notable. If they closed tomorrow, a few people locally would notice but no one else would care. Over the past 100 years, there have been thousands of such shops and there is no conceivable way to list them all, nor would such a list be in any way encyclopedic.
Thoughts before I clean the list out? - SummerPhD v2.0 17:20, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
After a grueling 3 minutes of work, Daylight Donuts now has a stub. - SummerPhD v2.0 02:28, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Found this list linked in the "See also" section of the Krispy Kreme article. Clearly difficult to say what counts as a notable store. Not sure where else someone would go if trying to remember a donut shop name from recent travels or from the more distant past. Of the 37 entries, I recognize about 7 (including Psycho Donuts because I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area). Missing is "Happy Donuts" which has many more franchises around here and Los Angeles. Also "Stan's Donuts", which goes way back and still has several locations in its current incarnation. Donut Wheel is missing on the list, though it does have a blue link Wikipedia entry. My personal favorite chain was "Donutland" in eastern Iowa, now down to one remaining shop in Cedar Rapids. No substantial edits here for a few years, so I'm just adding my two cents worth without any strong preferences. Dollars to donuts, somebody else will eventually chime in. Rairden ( talk) 07:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
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Reminder to add Pip's Original Doughnuts & Chai --- Another Believer ( Talk) 22:38, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
A few days ago, I added an entry (Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery), after first reading this Talk page, and the Inclusion Criteria. I thought my entry was in agreement with the discussion. However, it got deleted, and I've had some discussion about that on that editor's Talk page.
There seems to be a lot of inconsistency as to what is allowed to remain on this page. It seems strange for my entry to be removed, but to leave Café du Monde on this page - they only serve one kind of doughnut, a beignet - that's hardly a doughnut shop. It should be on a list of well-known cafes, not doughnut shops! My entry, Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery IS a doughnut shop, and is also a far more well-known, and longer established doughnut shop than several of the others included on the page, including Cardigan Doughnuts. Cardigan Doughnuts, established in 2017, does indeed have a wikipedia page, which reads like an advertisement for the shop. I live in the area and never had heard of it until I saw the page. I'm not opposed to Cardigan Doughnuts remaining on the page, but if it does, certainly Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery should be on it. Additionally, when I added my entry, there were other shops included in the list (which another editor subsequently deleted after I questioned his/her deletion of my entry) which did not have links to Wikipedia pages, so although there was some discussion about that, there did not appear to be consensus on that (quite honestly, it seems a strange requirement, given it's only going to encourage self-advertising like the Cardigan Doughnuts page does).
I have no personal link to Denny's 5th Avenue Bakery, other than I've lived in the area for over 50 years, and know it's a well-known, locally owned doughnut shop - google or yelp reviews will back me up on this (I don't know any family members). In fact, it is so well-known, the City of Bloomington did a video (which I included in the citations) commemorating the business, the founding family member, and his current descendants who run the business. The Minneapolis Star-Tribune (link to article was provided) and local neighborhood newspapers have also written about the business. Mpls-St.Paul magazine wrote about it (mspmag.com/eat-and-drink/best-of-local-bakeries/).
This page is titled "List of doughnut shops". As a simple list, it doesn't seem like having a wikipedia page should be required for inclusion. If that is a hard requirement, a more accurate title of the page would be "List of doughnuts shops with wikipedia pages".
When I came across this page, after reading the page AND the Talk page, I thought it was appropriate to add the entry. I question the value of this page, especially given the inconsistencies I've pointed out. Being more inclusive would actually make the page more valuable. 75.73.7.4 ( talk) 16:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Could we look into including Parlor Doughnuts (based out of Indiana but rapidly expanding across the United States) and/or getting a page made for them? They are becoming a pretty noteworthy chain, specializing in their "layered donuts" (essentially a cronut) and as aforementioned, are growing fast. Knorcross ( talk) 17:42, 19 April 2024 (UTC)