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Created this list on November 5, 2019, with 30 songs of high cultural impact. So far, we have sources for only 11 of the songs. It would be great to add 1-3 sources for each song on this list, which would support the details and cultural import of the songs. I've spent 5 hours on this now, so I won't be able to add these sources tonight, but I'm confident they exist because...
The reason why I felt comfortable publishing the article with a number of sources remaining to be added is because more than 80% of the songs on this list are so notable they have pages of their own. -- Shrinkydinks ( talk) 10:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
@ Shrinkydinks: Thanks for starting this list. I've made some tweaks I figured I'd outline here, based on typical Wikipedia list formatting/standards.
— Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
@ Rhododendrites: Thank you for your help and your guidance in the right direction! Really appreciate your help. This list in its original format was nearly entirely constructed from a list previously removed from diss (music) because the editors felt that page should not be a list itself.
-- Shrinkydinks ( talk) 08:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
I've found a few pages we can consult to see if there are any missing tracks:
None of these are complete/exhaustive, but they could serve as a good starting point: Eg. go through the critics' lists, identify songs that satisfy WP:N (having their own articles), and add those to this list. — Shrinkydinks ( talk) 11:15, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Beginning this section to preserve the hard work of contributors with good intentions but who might have not known the inclusion criteria of the list (As of December 2019, songs must be blue-linked for the main list and videos must have 25,000,000+ views for the YouTube list). — Shrinkydinks ( talk) 09:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Date Released | Song Title | Artist(s) | Target(s) | Response to (if applicable) |
Note | Citation |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
November 14, 1989 | "Sons of 3rd Bass" | 3rd Bass | Beastie Boys | [1] | ||
April 21,1992 | "Professor Booty" | Beastie Boys | 3rd Bass | "Sons of 3rd Bass" by 3rd Bass | ||
December 9, 2019 | "The Invitation" | Nick Cannon feat. Suge Knight | Eminem | [2] |
Date Released | Song Title | Artist(s) | Target(s) | Response to (if applicable) |
Views | Note |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
February 9, 2020 | " Going Broke" | Logan Paul | Antonio Brown | 10,000,000 [3] | Part of the feud "AB Don't want to fight with Logan Paul". |
References
Most of these need third-party references to show that they are notable. Having a lot of views is not a reliable indicator since views can be bought. This should not be a page to advertise things that don't otherwise get significant coverage. ... discospinster talk 02:31, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
U guys are missing “Bitch Lasagna” by PewDiePie, targeted at TSeries
From the page on diss tracks: "A diss track, diss record or diss song (diss – abbr. from disrespect) is a song whose primary purpose is to verbally attack someone else, usually another artist." Not to be a killjoy, but I'm not entirely sure if songs like Yankee Doodle and Union Dixie meet those criteria to be considered a proper diss track. Nicolaskyoung ( talk) 00:34, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
There are at least two of the most famous disstrack lacking:
Get in The Ring (Guns'n'Roses) - directed at various music magazines EMI (Sex Pistols) - directed at EMI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:6590:858F:3867:B55C:36F6:2D4 ( talk) 18:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The diss tracks by Popular Roblox YouTubers PokeDiger1 and Kreekcraft should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItzAviqn ( talk • contribs) 12:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I have removed the non-notable songs - ie. those that lack articles either about the artist or song itself and also lack independent coverage that would establish notability. I have also again removed Kazachstanski nygus's entry as lyric sites are useless, unreliable, copyright violations and do not provide information to back up any such claims much less establish any encyclopedic value. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Uh uh big og around here yeah yeah look so this how right im like ya 2600:1702:400:990:4457:8840:B76B:6C60 ( talk) 23:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of diss tracks's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Guardian":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of diss tracks's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Billboard":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm not a good Wikipedia editor, but I do have a few more very relevant songs that should be on here.
1) Truth, by Gucci Mane. Takes direct shots at Jeezy and Pookie Loc, following the latter's death while attempting to rob Gucci. This track is consistently mentioned as one of the best diss tracks out there, and is about as direct as they come.
2) We Don't Trust You (the song) by Future and Metro Boomin. The second verse is a pretty overt diss towards Drake. Less overt than Like That, but relevant nonetheless.
3) Control, by Big Sean featuring Jay Electronica and Kendrick Lamar. Consistently cited as one of the most important tracks of the decade, Kendrick takes shots at the following artists all by name: J. Cole, Big K.R.I.T., Wale, Pusha T, Meek Mill, A$AP Rocky, Drake, Big Sean, Jay Electronica, Tyler the Creator, and Mac Miller.
4) The Heart Part 4, by Kendrick Lamar. Pretty overt shots at Drake and Big Sean, which was basically confirmed in the leaked version of ELEMENT where he names both of them.
Also, in the youtube section, I think we should include
5) Insecure, by Quadeca. Targeting KSI, this track has a large view count (especially for the creator's size) and provoked reactions from larger creators and a response track from KSI. I think it deserves a mention, if tracks like Dumb King Come (with 500k views) are being included.
Tom Nook himself (
talk)
02:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
This week has been insane, and understandably this page is receiving a lot of activity. Can I get a rundown of what other editors would consider acceptable secondary sources? Thanks in advance. Delukiel ( talk) 14:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I feel like "Yonkers" by Tyler and a couple of more songs in his early days could be considered diss tracks Sognik ( talk) 08:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm surprised this isn't listed already. definitely should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TvxRY0yU5Q 2601:280:5C82:ECE0:D826:23AD:9DF8:13B4 ( talk) 06:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
List of notable YouTube diss tracks was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 20 November 2019 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into List of diss tracks. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here. |
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Created this list on November 5, 2019, with 30 songs of high cultural impact. So far, we have sources for only 11 of the songs. It would be great to add 1-3 sources for each song on this list, which would support the details and cultural import of the songs. I've spent 5 hours on this now, so I won't be able to add these sources tonight, but I'm confident they exist because...
The reason why I felt comfortable publishing the article with a number of sources remaining to be added is because more than 80% of the songs on this list are so notable they have pages of their own. -- Shrinkydinks ( talk) 10:16, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
@ Shrinkydinks: Thanks for starting this list. I've made some tweaks I figured I'd outline here, based on typical Wikipedia list formatting/standards.
— Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:36, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
@ Rhododendrites: Thank you for your help and your guidance in the right direction! Really appreciate your help. This list in its original format was nearly entirely constructed from a list previously removed from diss (music) because the editors felt that page should not be a list itself.
-- Shrinkydinks ( talk) 08:27, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
I've found a few pages we can consult to see if there are any missing tracks:
None of these are complete/exhaustive, but they could serve as a good starting point: Eg. go through the critics' lists, identify songs that satisfy WP:N (having their own articles), and add those to this list. — Shrinkydinks ( talk) 11:15, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
Beginning this section to preserve the hard work of contributors with good intentions but who might have not known the inclusion criteria of the list (As of December 2019, songs must be blue-linked for the main list and videos must have 25,000,000+ views for the YouTube list). — Shrinkydinks ( talk) 09:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
Date Released | Song Title | Artist(s) | Target(s) | Response to (if applicable) |
Note | Citation |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
November 14, 1989 | "Sons of 3rd Bass" | 3rd Bass | Beastie Boys | [1] | ||
April 21,1992 | "Professor Booty" | Beastie Boys | 3rd Bass | "Sons of 3rd Bass" by 3rd Bass | ||
December 9, 2019 | "The Invitation" | Nick Cannon feat. Suge Knight | Eminem | [2] |
Date Released | Song Title | Artist(s) | Target(s) | Response to (if applicable) |
Views | Note |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
February 9, 2020 | " Going Broke" | Logan Paul | Antonio Brown | 10,000,000 [3] | Part of the feud "AB Don't want to fight with Logan Paul". |
References
Most of these need third-party references to show that they are notable. Having a lot of views is not a reliable indicator since views can be bought. This should not be a page to advertise things that don't otherwise get significant coverage. ... discospinster talk 02:31, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
U guys are missing “Bitch Lasagna” by PewDiePie, targeted at TSeries
From the page on diss tracks: "A diss track, diss record or diss song (diss – abbr. from disrespect) is a song whose primary purpose is to verbally attack someone else, usually another artist." Not to be a killjoy, but I'm not entirely sure if songs like Yankee Doodle and Union Dixie meet those criteria to be considered a proper diss track. Nicolaskyoung ( talk) 00:34, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
There are at least two of the most famous disstrack lacking:
Get in The Ring (Guns'n'Roses) - directed at various music magazines EMI (Sex Pistols) - directed at EMI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:14C:6590:858F:3867:B55C:36F6:2D4 ( talk) 18:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
The diss tracks by Popular Roblox YouTubers PokeDiger1 and Kreekcraft should be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItzAviqn ( talk • contribs) 12:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
I have removed the non-notable songs - ie. those that lack articles either about the artist or song itself and also lack independent coverage that would establish notability. I have also again removed Kazachstanski nygus's entry as lyric sites are useless, unreliable, copyright violations and do not provide information to back up any such claims much less establish any encyclopedic value. PRAXIDICAE🌈 16:58, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Uh uh big og around here yeah yeah look so this how right im like ya 2600:1702:400:990:4457:8840:B76B:6C60 ( talk) 23:07, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of diss tracks's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Guardian":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 03:19, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of diss tracks's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Billboard":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:50, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm not a good Wikipedia editor, but I do have a few more very relevant songs that should be on here.
1) Truth, by Gucci Mane. Takes direct shots at Jeezy and Pookie Loc, following the latter's death while attempting to rob Gucci. This track is consistently mentioned as one of the best diss tracks out there, and is about as direct as they come.
2) We Don't Trust You (the song) by Future and Metro Boomin. The second verse is a pretty overt diss towards Drake. Less overt than Like That, but relevant nonetheless.
3) Control, by Big Sean featuring Jay Electronica and Kendrick Lamar. Consistently cited as one of the most important tracks of the decade, Kendrick takes shots at the following artists all by name: J. Cole, Big K.R.I.T., Wale, Pusha T, Meek Mill, A$AP Rocky, Drake, Big Sean, Jay Electronica, Tyler the Creator, and Mac Miller.
4) The Heart Part 4, by Kendrick Lamar. Pretty overt shots at Drake and Big Sean, which was basically confirmed in the leaked version of ELEMENT where he names both of them.
Also, in the youtube section, I think we should include
5) Insecure, by Quadeca. Targeting KSI, this track has a large view count (especially for the creator's size) and provoked reactions from larger creators and a response track from KSI. I think it deserves a mention, if tracks like Dumb King Come (with 500k views) are being included.
Tom Nook himself (
talk)
02:45, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
This week has been insane, and understandably this page is receiving a lot of activity. Can I get a rundown of what other editors would consider acceptable secondary sources? Thanks in advance. Delukiel ( talk) 14:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I feel like "Yonkers" by Tyler and a couple of more songs in his early days could be considered diss tracks Sognik ( talk) 08:30, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm surprised this isn't listed already. definitely should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TvxRY0yU5Q 2601:280:5C82:ECE0:D826:23AD:9DF8:13B4 ( talk) 06:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)