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I believe that only UN member states should be ranked... the rest should not. -- cchow2 ( talk) 10:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Western Sahara shouldn't be listed with the flag of the SADR. The SADR only controls 20-25% of the territory. 109.99.71.97 ( talk) 18:13, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I see the the issue of including dependent territories has been discussed before ([ [1]]). At the time, somebody proposed following the French wikipedia format ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_pays_par_population), where dependent territories are included under their mother country. The drawback to this approach is that dependent territories are not ranked. Frankly, being able to include dependencies in the ranking doesn't seem that useful to me. Currently the article double counts residents of various French dependencies under both France and the dependency itself (although this is noted in a footnote), which seems to be a far bigger problem than not having French Polynesia ranked. I realize the way the statistics are compiled varies from country to country (e.g., Hong Kong population is compiled separately from the rest of China, and UK only includes residents in the British Isles, although I assume Bermudans have UK passports). This article seems to attract a lot of drive-by editors (like myself) who update the population figures without taking full note of what dependencies may or may not be included in the figure. Grouping dependencies under their mother country would highlight situations where double counting might occur and would ensure that populations figures stay accurate without double counting. Is the loss of dependencies from the ranked list really so terrible that we want to leave the door should be open for double counting? Plantdrew ( talk) 20:49, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Population: 11,163,934. Source: 2012 Census (Cuba). Official data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.170.68 ( talk) 23:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
In the graph, Bangladesh is in seventh place and Nigeria is in eighth. But in the list below it, the positions are reversed. I believe the list, not the graph, is correct. The graph is probably outdated.
96.228.5.215 ( talk) 01:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC) treplag
The entry for Canada lists the official population clock as the source, last retrieved on 29/12/12. Howeve the clock was taken down on 21/12/12. I am not sure how to update this, or what a new, more appropriate source is.
Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.174.87 ( talk) 07:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I fixed the Puerto Rico and United States Virgin Islands for the following reasons.
1. Puerto Rico is a territory NOT A STATE of the United States of America. 2. United States Virgin Islands is a territory NOT A STATE of the United States of America.
Therefore I fixed both sections to show that there are overseen by the United States. And while Puerto Rico did vote for statehood there was some questions about the voting and it may take a long time before anything happens. If you have any questions please email me.
Thanks, Tom991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 ( talk • contribs) 21:50, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Everyone last week I fixed the Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands sections to show that they are still part of the USA because they are NOT there own states. I ask that no one please change those. These two island territories are NOT there own country, they are unorganized territories of the United States. Why are people so difficult sometimes! tom991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
The ISO 3166-1 is useless, as it leaves out whole countries like Kosovo (which I have been trying to include). Kosovo's population is not included under Serbia - which would otherwise be c. 9 million - therefore it must be listed separately. I am thinking of deleting the reference to ISO 3166-1 at the beginning of the article - the ISO standard seems politically motivated. 24.108.61.172 ( talk) 22:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
The same goes for Abkhazia, Transistria and a few others entities. Kosovo's final status is undetermined, and until this is solved it could be either merged with Serbia's population count or omitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npi2000 ( talk • contribs) 18:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Talk:List of countries by population/Archive 5#Excludes. Formally without these territories. This in a footnote. -- PlatonPskov ( talk) 20:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Turkey has a higher population then Iran now. -- 108.92.162.111 ( talk) 20:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I have rewritten the table of populations to auto-number the rows, by using quick Template:Autotable5_big which inserts a row number for each 5 parameters, to automatically number the 242 rows (of 280 maximum). To allow an equals sign '=' in the URLs, each URL is wrapped in curly braces now, as {{{|[http:...]}}}, so any http text is passed into {{autotable5_big}} using a blank parameter. The rewrite of all 242 rows took several weeks to streamline (while carefully testing in the talk-page /sandbox version), so some population figures had changed, and the table is still being updated to match the latest numbers. Feel free to keep updating the table, but remember there are no longer any row numbers in the article markup, so search for each nation's name, as added to locate a row when editing, or hunt for the 3-letter cryptic codes ("LCA") which are still in the table markup. As rows are moved, or more added, the row numbers will automatically renumber in proper sequence. - Wikid77 ( talk) 20:39, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
If population of India is 1,270,272,105, then its percentage of the world population would be 18.12% not 17%. The former is correct percentage. However, I cannot edit and make the change because I do not know how. The same applies to China. If the population figures are correct, then the Chinese percentage of the world population is 19.31% not what is written in the chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.22.193 ( talk) 00:45, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
That small flag attached to Norway (nr. 118) is definitely not my country's flag. See this page for the correct one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.133.228 ( talk) 23:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a good bit of healthy nitpicking here. But I want to say I am delighted that this page exists and is as clean as it is. To those who have been doing the work, a big THANK YOU! This is essential information. One thing that would be really nice to have is another column indicating current growth rate for each country. I realize that's a sticky wicket, since like population size, estimates are only worth so much and even good estimates can become dated quickly. But still, I think including growth rate would put things in perspective. I don't know the most reliable sources for such data, but I assume those working on this do. So, again, thank you! Eperotao ( talk) 18:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
The article's table is a mess and pretty much useless. We have country population from different dates, different sources and different types of studies (projections, censuses, etc.) which are NOT comparable. The UN has just released its 2012 revision of world population for over 200 world entities from 1950 to 2100. We should just stick to that to make the list comparable to some degree. What do you think? — Pristino ( talk) 07:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I am curious to know why countries within the United Kingdom are not included on this list, whilst countries such as in the kingdom of Denmark are - Greenland, Denmark and the Faroe islands are all separate but Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and England are not. 31.53.188.191 ( talk) 20:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I would be more useful and much easier to follow the daily updates if everyone editing (the list of countries by population) kindly would specify the subject of their edit in the information box below the editing list, for instance "Update on Cuba". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sokndal ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to know if the CIA World Factbook could be used to re-do this list. What's the point in having a list with population estimates for 2010 and 2013 together? The world population increased from 6.8 to 7.1 billion, that's a 300 million difference. The article has even a 2008 estimate. Some of these non-updated countries have big populations that can make a big difference (Indonesia and India are good examples of this).
On the other side, Chinese population simply couldn't fall by 5 million people in 6 months (1.354B for 12/31 according to official estimate, 1.349B for 7/1 according to CIA World Factbook), so I'm not sure of the accuracy of this list.
I also found this one, though I don't know if it's reliable enough.
We can make two (or even more) lists, just like we do in the GDP stuff.
Sorry if my English is wrong, and regards. Roetorm ( talk • contribs)
CIA World Factbook is not always reliable as, neither is UN estimates. For most countries the population numbers they gives are very crude estimates. In case of some less developed contries, these soursces may be a subsitute for lack of new national official updates.
Most developed countries makes official updates (estimates) every month or every three months (quaterly). The national offices of statistics are the best sources, even if these also sometimes are not 100 % accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.87.135 ( talk) 09:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
About France: Reunion, Martinique, Guadeloupe, French Guyana (Guyane) and Mayotte are "département", subdivisions, part of the country. For a correct list they shall not be in it. ( 81.56.77.183 ( talk) 22:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC))
The name of the country number 145 is fyrom Antony1979 ( talk) 17:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
When I click to sort by rank, what comes up is a list with China first, then Japan (which is 10th), then Serbia and Hong Kong (100th and 101th respectively). Shouldn't it show starting with the last on the list (i.e. the Pitcaim Islands (UK))? Yny501 ( talk) 06:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Malaysia's population % is 10x too small. It should be 0.42% and not 0.04% as reported in the table. However, the code that generates that # is a bit more complicated than most other countries, and I'm not entirely sure what's going on, so I don't want to fix it myself lest I break something. Jamesa7171 ( talk) 23:53, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose that numerical rankings should only be designated to nations that are members of the United Nations, in essence there are 193 members, 2 observers (Vatican City and Palestine), and 2 free association states (Niue and Cook Islands). Dependent territories and the 10 disputed states which are not members of the UN should not be ranked as they are not really countries. If no one objects by 21 September 2013, I will execute the changes. cchow2 ( talk) 17:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone please address the 2.2-fold population difference between 1 622 000 for Equatorial Guinea here and 736 000 in the country's individual Wiki page. I have read there are political reasons for the country to provide inflated figures. JK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.96.219 ( talk) 11:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
I have addressed this before: I don't see how the flag of the SADR represents the territory. The SADR controls a sparsely populated 20-25% part of Western Sahara. 109.99.71.97 ( talk) 19:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
The SADR is the internationally recognised government of Western Sahara, so its flag is used. Yny501 ( talk) 09:00, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Kosovo is not included in the table, yet it also isn't included in the Serbia statistic. I imagine it should be given the same treatment as Western Sahara. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.64.2 ( talk) 23:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
The population listed for Canada is excessive. The 2011 census found the population to be only 33,476,000.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 13:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Pizza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.219.130.37 ( talk) 18:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, In the article, the number 182 refers to a country named "Northern Cyprus". This country does not exist. As it is mentioned in another article named "Northern Cyprus": "Northern Cyprus is a self-declared state that comprises the northeastern portion of the island of Cyprus. Recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community as Turkish-occupied territory of the Republic of Cyprus".
Since the article refers to countries, you indirectly recognize this illegal "country". In addition, anyone who reads it and is not well informed about the issues in the island would think it is a recognized country.
As IT IS NOT RECOGNIZED by any country other than Turkey (and this is because Turkey invaded Cyprus and illegally created this "country") I ask you to respect the rights of the Republic of Cyprus and the International Community and remove the entry "Northern Cyprus" from the article.
I do understand that the articles can be edited by anyone but I also know that Wikipedia is read by lots of people in the world and I want them to know the truth about the issues on the island of Cyprus. Panayiota.sk ( talk) 11:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little bit unsettled by the vast disparity between the figure given here for Equatorial Guinea (1,622,000) and the figure on the Equatorial Guinea page given by the World Bank (736,296). Are the official sources inflated? They seem to be, considering every other source I can find cited on Wikipedia the population as being in the ballpark of 700,000. If so, they should not be used here, right? I want to make sure others agree before going in and changing it. Someone the Person ( talk) 02:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
It's a shame that there are no US States on the list. I would like to see them on the list, but I want to see them on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.206.10.95 ( talk) 00:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
===How about this kiddos, open the article that lists countries in a tab, then open the article that lists states in a tab...and enjoy. 70.115.171.96 ( talk)
Hi, I realise this probably comes up a lot, but I was wondering what would be needed for the EU to show up on this list? It's not a country, sure, but it's very relevant as a political entity. It certainly would make referencing statistics a lot easier! -- 2001:980:A4CB:1:FC02:7A1:37C8:B906 ( talk) 21:48, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
There are approximately 700 Million South Asian Muslims.
Pakistan: 200 Million
India: 250 Million (due to continuous under counting of the Muslim population by the Indian government for the past 6 decades, the Muslim population is generally accepted to be more than the official 200 million number. A large majority of Muslims are leaving India and settling in other Muslim countries but are always counted under the same group and always play the foremost role in south Asian Muslim activities).
Bangladesh: 160 Million
Kashmir: 20 Million
Taking into account other variables, its an approximate population of 700 million. The third largest in the world. I propose making another section for world population based on ethnicity in addition to countries. To show which are the biggest population groups in the world. Muslim Army Knives ( talk) 07:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Incorrect Muslims of South Asia form one ethnicity with derivations from Arab, Turkish and Persian stocks similar to how hindus form one ethnicity with derivations from dravidian stock. Muslim Army Knives ( talk) 10:48, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
the wrong map of russia
where is crimea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.208.77 ( talk) 11:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Its official name is Myanmar, it's been that for awhile, this needs to be changed. ( talk) 16:14, 20 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.145.141.27 ( talk)
I would like to see an additional column of current population growth rate — unless this is already on another page.
—DIV (
137.111.13.4 (
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Hi ! There is a population clock on the official Bangladesh website [2]. The population is now 156 million and not 152. Can someone add the population clock please ? Banglabs ( talk) 08:57, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Why is the population percentage for China and India rounded ? It should have 2 decimal places like the other countries. Example : 18.99% instead of 19%. Banglabs ( talk) 09:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Please update the population of Greece from the 2013 census of Eurostat [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polugap ( talk • contribs) 11:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
References
I was wondering if it would be possible to adapt this or future tables so that they include population density information. If this were possible then perhaps column titles might read something like:
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Rank by Population |
Rank by Pop.density |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | % of world population |
Source | area (km²) |
Pop.density (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
shortened to
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Rank (pop) |
Rank (pd) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | world pop % |
Source | area (km²) |
Pop.den. (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
with an alternate format
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Rank (pop) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | % of world population |
Source | area (km²) |
Rank (pd) |
Pop.density (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
shortened to
4
Rank (pop) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | world pop % |
Source | area (km²) |
Rank (pd) |
Pop.den. (#/km²) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
I think this would add a lot more meaningful data to the content if it could be accomplished.
Gregkaye ( talk) 07:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The entry for Kosovo has been repeatedly removed without explanation by IP editors (probably one editor with different, but similar IPs). Also a note for Serbia that the number does not include Kosovo, is removed. The same editor(s) has also made edits to List of countries by population (United Nations), where a note for Serbia that the number does include Kosovo, is removed. The result is that the two lists present widely diverging numbers for Serbia, without explanation, and all mention of Kosovo is removed. Since the editor does not give edit summaries, nor responds to talk page messages, I keep reinserting the numbers and notes. The question is how to deal with this. The obvious way is to ask for semi-protection. I see, however, that this article actually to a large degree is edited by IP editors, who on the whole seem to give a positive input to updating the article. Semi-protection might actually harm the development of the article. The other way to do it is to ask for the IP to be blocked. I hesitate to ask for this, since blocking of IPs often seems to bring new IPs to the battle field. Any thoughts? Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 11:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Oranges and apples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.37.155 ( talk) 22:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The illegally declared independence of Kosovo is not recognized by the majority of world's population. Also, Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations, which under UNSCR 1244 regards it as a part of Serbia temporarily under UN jurisdiction. Thus, it is not an independent country, nor a dependent territory, and can not be in this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 15:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Here is the citation needed! UNSCR_1244#Observations — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 13:36, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I read the sources, but they don't make a difference. The decisions of the governments of individual countries and their recognition of an illegal move don't make that move legal. The UN Security Council's Resolution 1244 is still valid, and it says that Kosovo and Metohija is a part of Serbia, and calls for meaningful autonomy and self-administration, but not for independence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 18:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
With all due respect, I'm afraid what Materialscientist said is simply not true. The source he cites ( International_recognition_of_Kosovo) is irrelevant for this list. Decisions of the individual governments to recognize an illegal move do not make that move legal. However, that source does matter for something else - to show which country is disregarding binding decisions by the United Nations, or to a smaller extent and open to interpretation, which countries are giving in to the pressure by politically and diplomatically stronger countries, accepting to do the same as those stronger ones did, disregarding the UN. But, that is a matter for some other page. For this page, the ultimately relevant document is the United Nations Security Council 1244, ( UNSCR_1244#Observations), which reaffirms Serbia's sovereignty on its entire territory, including the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija, which is valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 10:19, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It says "AP", which stands for "Autonomous Province", thus Kosovo can not appear here as an independent country or a dependent territory. And there is a reliable source, which gives the population, with the territory of Kosovo and Metohija included, on ( List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations)). As a reminder, the AP Kosovo and Metohija has been put under temporary administration of the UN, by the ( UNSCR_1244), so getting the statistical data for the territory is under the UN jurisdiction, which doesn't make Kosovo (and Metohija) a separate entity. And the inclusion of the "total population number" was because of your remark that two lists ( List_of_countries_by_population and List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations)), as you said "... present widely diverging numbers for Serbia, without explanation ...". Now it has been explained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 14:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I have realized that Abkhazia and South Ossetia were mentioned in one of the above Talks, so I removed my comment. As for consensus, it is obvious that it doesn't exist, for either side, so it is up to both sides in this dispute to provide the citations as the support. And that is what gives me the right to correct the incorrect data, providing valid documents to counter the POV done by others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 19:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
T*U, I did not say Serbian official statistical sources are biased and malicious, I said that official doesn't necessarily mean that the source is correct. If you are now using the official Serbian government's data, then here is a link for you. http://www.srbija.gov.rs/cinjenice_o_srbiji/ustav.php It's the Constitution of Serbia, where it says that "... the Province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of the territory of Serbia ...". So, I suppose now you will do the same as I do, and start regarding it as a part of Serbia. Welcome to my side. It is a progress towards reaching the consensus. The source document used here is an official document of the Government of the USA, and it is biased and malicious. The US Government is pushing its own agenda, its own interests, and it is disregarding binding international documents. That is an example of what I said, that official doesn't mean correct. Of course, this claim can be disputed by other editors, but I am ready to back it up with valid documents. It would take a lot of time and space, and extensive analysis in many fields (geopolitical, strategic, economic....), but it can be done, though probably not here. Just to add that the US Government is not the only government in the world that does so, but in this case its document is used as the source.
.... and apologies to T*U, I missed to answer your question about Abkhazia and South Ossetia. As I said, there already is a post/section in this Talk page, which mentioned those two territories. In my comment, I used the same argument as for some other territories ("it deserves to be in the list"), but I consider that as a silly argument. I was wondering if someone will intervene about it. And now I see such comments classify as Wikipedia:But it's true!, at least in my view, since it is a personal view, not backed by any valid citation (I emphasize "valid citation").
I think it would be a good starting point, on how to "reshape" this list. I have to say that I have expected that someone removes the "unnumbered" entities, because they are not countries, but it didn't happen. As long as the list refers to independent countries and dependent territories, for me it would be unacceptable to see Kosovo and Metohija in it. I think your idea is good, and as I see it, it would be a combination between List of countries by population (United Nations) and List of sovereign states. The first part would be numbered, and containing only the UN members (titled "UN members"), then followed by the section titled "Other territories" (my suggestion), where all the other territories would be listed, without numbering, and with their status explained (if they are aiming at independence, are they partially recognized, not recognized, dependent territory, micronation...), and of course the population numbers of entities listed in both parts of the list. Again I am surprised that "unnumbered entities" appear in the List of countries by population (United Nations).
I think our starting positions on this are well known. I will emphasize again - Kosovo (and Metohija) is not a country, a state, or anything similar. It is an autonomous province and an integral part of Serbia. International documents support that stance. Individual decisions of some countries are in opposition with that, but they can't have priority over the international ones, especially the binding decisions of the United Nations Security Council. Only the political, economic, military an diplomatic power allows them to do so, but that doesn't make such decisions of those individual countries legal.
188.246.51.142 ( talk) 22:57, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
After April 1 official numbers have not been given for Crimea and Sevastopol. This means that we cannot give updated numbers for Ukraine including Crimea and Sevastopol. Adding the numbers from June with numbers from April must be seen as WP:OR, but giving the April numbers in a note will give the Wiki user a chance to do their own calculations. In the May 1 table, the number including Crimea and Sevastopol on basis of SSSU estimation is given in a note, so that can also be included in our note. I have removed the numbers for the present population from the note, since this was more confusing than enlightening. Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 14:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Then whats this? Visit: http://www.rappler.com/nation/64465-100-millionth-filipino-born -- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)-- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)-- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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The "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria / Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" is not a sovereign state as defined by several governing United Nations guidelines, needless to cite. To subtract the populations of ISIS/ISIL occupied territory from the populations of which these territories are de jure creates a severe inaccuracy in overall rankings. Please correct and/or remove as necessary. 108.40.75.25 ( talk) 06:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
For Slovenia it is given a very old data, new data is showing only 2.062.116 inhabitants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sokkol ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Repulic of China is a sovereign state, so we can't use Taiwan instead of the Republic of China.
Wikipedia should respect the facts!In Taiwan, the official address is Republic of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A862678110 ( talk • contribs) 08:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
The entry for Mexico is missing entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.189.82 ( talk) 01:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
according to most versions tanzania should already have more than 49 million people since its population growth is greater than 1 million per year and can not be based on the 2012 census because it is a country with a fairly large population growth, I think you should put tanzania regarding the population version shown in other languages , above Colombia
according to google , wikipedia in other languages and various sources hill tanzania 2013 with 49.25 million inhabitants , so it would not be surprising that even today in 2015 has 50 million inhabitants , but I think they should at least actulizarlo data as closed its population in 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwin1216 ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I would suggest shortening the date field to just include the year so that there is room for a field displaying growth rate. While it is interesting to see that, for example, Indonesia is 65 million people shy of the USA, I feel that a growth rate will better paint a picture of the two countries respected population than say, the precise date the population was update. 2601:E:CD00:87A:1D16:4A8C:EE9C:4D44 ( talk) 13:59, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello to all of Wikipedia's users.
I don't want to be a nanny guy, and I haven't posted the joke, but he list said that 52 out of about 270 countries are marked to have been checked on day July 1, 2015, being today 15/04/2015 and 16/04/2015 in some parts of the world, thus making impossible that anything happened on July 1, 2015, because this day hasn't arrived yet. Even though I have to admit it was probably an ingenious troll, Wikipedia is not the correct place for that to be. Anyone who has the time and ability to research further information, please edit the content.
Thank you.
Isaacdixonp0 ( talk) 07:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)isaacdixonp0
The "official estimate" for Indonesian population redirects here:
http://www.bps.go.id/eng/tab_sub/view.php?kat=1&tabel=1&daftar=1&id_subyek=12¬ab=12
But the page in question is nonexistent. Does anyone know where the official estimates can be found? BoltNinja ( talk) 05:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
The United States is The Worlds Most Populated Country Not China — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCE0:A5F0:79CD:B706:B97B:6299 ( talk) 01:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
That's simply incorrect. Check any source you'd like.
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72.186.124.1 ( talk) 03:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC) Dominican Republic has 9,445,281 people not 12million like the population by countries indicates.
Measured in percents/year. To allow estimations in changes in the table at later times. Pavel Senatorov, developer of programming language Ya ( talk) 17:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
There's an ongoing edit war. Please provide one definitive reliable source and end this. Ernio48 ( talk) 12:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
As this page regularly witnesses vandalism or placing of wrong (often exaggerated) estimates, it should be permamently protected not only for 1 week or so. This article is so crucial as it is the easiest this kind of list to find on the internet, not mentioning the falseness of similar lists on the internet. Ernio48 ( talk) 21:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Whats with the first of July in population estimation dates? -- Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
The population counter is not official. www.indiastat.com is a private website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.141.218.162 ( talk) 18:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
There is a difference of 330,000 between the Russian population clock and wikipedia.-- 90.162.24.163 ( talk) 20:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
@ Mynameisrickyqin: Thanks for your good edits in this List. I would, however, ask you please to explain why you have replaced all the "data country|poptoday 1" templates with manual updating, which will have to be done every day to get the same result. The template is spesifically made for the purpose of avoiding that. Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 15:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it Russian POV? Xx234 ( talk) 08:14, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
No. Crimea and Sevastopol are, de facto, controlled by Russia and have been since 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.105.248 ( talk) 01:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
This is not a reliable source. It uses Wikipedia as one of their sources. Here's one on the Czech Republic. Let's compare from an earlier version before their publication date.
According to preliminary results of the 2011 census, the majority of the inhabitants of the Czech Republic are Czechs (63.7%), followed by Moravians (4.9%), Slovaks (1.4%), Poles (0.4%), Germans (0.2%) and Silesians (0.1%). As the 'nationality' was an optional item, a substantial number of people left this field blank (26.0%).According to some estimates, there are about 250,000 Romani people in the Czech Republic.
The Jewish population of Bohemia and Moravia, 118,000 according to the 1930 census, was virtually annihilated by the Nazi Germans during the Holocaust. There were approximately 4,000 Jews in the Czech Republic in 2005.
The Czech Republic has one of the least religious populations in the world, being the country with the third most atheistic population by percentage, behind only China and Japan.
64% of the Czech Republic's population is Czech, followed by Moravians (5%), Slovaks (1.4%), Poles (0.4%) and Germans (0.2%). At the last census in 2011, "nationality" was optional and about 26% left this blank. It's estimated that the Czech Republic is home to 250,000 Romani people, as well as 440,000 foreigners, the largest group being Ukranian (140,000) followed by Slovak, Vietnamese, Russian and Polish.
The Nazis almost completely destroyed the Jewish population in the region, which dropped from 118,000 in 1930 to just 4,000 in 2005.
The country has one of the least religious populations globally with the third highest percentage of atheists (34%) after China and Japan.
Does anyone think the Syrian Bureau of Statistics can provide any meaningful population estimate? I believe we shall switch to UN sources for the time being. Demmo ( talk) 13:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
2015 census just released. Can someone please update Makeandtoss ( talk) 01:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
if Kosovo, transnistria, abkhazia, south ossetia and taiwan make the list with differing levels of recognition around the world, why not nagorno karabakh? it's been a de facto independent country since 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.6.225 ( talk) 10:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Someone (IP : 123.88.217.39) is trying very hard to exclude France of the List of countries and dependencies by population, and to have it replaced by
Metropolitan France (the part of france which is located in Europe). There is no explanation for it, the oversea departments and territories of France are part of the country.
Metropolitan France is not a country, or a dependency. France is a country, and should be on the list.
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As of 2015-09-29 Palestine is not included in this list. I am unsure if this has been agreed upon based on Wikipedia policy or if it is simply the result of the series of 'add Palestine / remove Palestine' article edits that have been conducted by multiple accounts.
Could we please get some clarity on this issue?
1. Under Wikipedia policies, should Palestine be or should it not be included in this list?
2. Can / should anything be done do stop the 'edit war' on this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.140.155.189 ( talk) 01:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, AKS471883 keeps removing data templates from this article, and replaces them with manual calculations. [5] [6] This is completely unnecessary, as the templates automatically calculate today's population and ensure the same data is consistently displayed across multiple articles. The removals have been accompanied by multiple population changes with no explanation as to where the new figures are coming from and certainly no sources. Given the lack of sources I was tempted to do a bulk revert, but this is an issue that has been going on for quite some time now. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 08:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
This list has 195 numbered states and includes Taiwan. There are 193 UN member states plus two observers and neither includes Taiwan. This list includes Palestine and Vatican City so which UN member state is missing? 110.22.123.142 ( talk) 16:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
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I believe that only UN member states should be ranked... the rest should not. -- cchow2 ( talk) 10:17, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Western Sahara shouldn't be listed with the flag of the SADR. The SADR only controls 20-25% of the territory. 109.99.71.97 ( talk) 18:13, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I see the the issue of including dependent territories has been discussed before ([ [1]]). At the time, somebody proposed following the French wikipedia format ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_pays_par_population), where dependent territories are included under their mother country. The drawback to this approach is that dependent territories are not ranked. Frankly, being able to include dependencies in the ranking doesn't seem that useful to me. Currently the article double counts residents of various French dependencies under both France and the dependency itself (although this is noted in a footnote), which seems to be a far bigger problem than not having French Polynesia ranked. I realize the way the statistics are compiled varies from country to country (e.g., Hong Kong population is compiled separately from the rest of China, and UK only includes residents in the British Isles, although I assume Bermudans have UK passports). This article seems to attract a lot of drive-by editors (like myself) who update the population figures without taking full note of what dependencies may or may not be included in the figure. Grouping dependencies under their mother country would highlight situations where double counting might occur and would ensure that populations figures stay accurate without double counting. Is the loss of dependencies from the ranked list really so terrible that we want to leave the door should be open for double counting? Plantdrew ( talk) 20:49, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
Population: 11,163,934. Source: 2012 Census (Cuba). Official data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.170.68 ( talk) 23:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
In the graph, Bangladesh is in seventh place and Nigeria is in eighth. But in the list below it, the positions are reversed. I believe the list, not the graph, is correct. The graph is probably outdated.
96.228.5.215 ( talk) 01:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC) treplag
The entry for Canada lists the official population clock as the source, last retrieved on 29/12/12. Howeve the clock was taken down on 21/12/12. I am not sure how to update this, or what a new, more appropriate source is.
Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.193.174.87 ( talk) 07:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
I fixed the Puerto Rico and United States Virgin Islands for the following reasons.
1. Puerto Rico is a territory NOT A STATE of the United States of America. 2. United States Virgin Islands is a territory NOT A STATE of the United States of America.
Therefore I fixed both sections to show that there are overseen by the United States. And while Puerto Rico did vote for statehood there was some questions about the voting and it may take a long time before anything happens. If you have any questions please email me.
Thanks, Tom991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 ( talk • contribs) 21:50, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
Everyone last week I fixed the Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands sections to show that they are still part of the USA because they are NOT there own states. I ask that no one please change those. These two island territories are NOT there own country, they are unorganized territories of the United States. Why are people so difficult sometimes! tom991 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom991 ( talk • contribs) 20:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
The ISO 3166-1 is useless, as it leaves out whole countries like Kosovo (which I have been trying to include). Kosovo's population is not included under Serbia - which would otherwise be c. 9 million - therefore it must be listed separately. I am thinking of deleting the reference to ISO 3166-1 at the beginning of the article - the ISO standard seems politically motivated. 24.108.61.172 ( talk) 22:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
The same goes for Abkhazia, Transistria and a few others entities. Kosovo's final status is undetermined, and until this is solved it could be either merged with Serbia's population count or omitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npi2000 ( talk • contribs) 18:12, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Talk:List of countries by population/Archive 5#Excludes. Formally without these territories. This in a footnote. -- PlatonPskov ( talk) 20:58, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Turkey has a higher population then Iran now. -- 108.92.162.111 ( talk) 20:40, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
I have rewritten the table of populations to auto-number the rows, by using quick Template:Autotable5_big which inserts a row number for each 5 parameters, to automatically number the 242 rows (of 280 maximum). To allow an equals sign '=' in the URLs, each URL is wrapped in curly braces now, as {{{|[http:...]}}}, so any http text is passed into {{autotable5_big}} using a blank parameter. The rewrite of all 242 rows took several weeks to streamline (while carefully testing in the talk-page /sandbox version), so some population figures had changed, and the table is still being updated to match the latest numbers. Feel free to keep updating the table, but remember there are no longer any row numbers in the article markup, so search for each nation's name, as added to locate a row when editing, or hunt for the 3-letter cryptic codes ("LCA") which are still in the table markup. As rows are moved, or more added, the row numbers will automatically renumber in proper sequence. - Wikid77 ( talk) 20:39, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
If population of India is 1,270,272,105, then its percentage of the world population would be 18.12% not 17%. The former is correct percentage. However, I cannot edit and make the change because I do not know how. The same applies to China. If the population figures are correct, then the Chinese percentage of the world population is 19.31% not what is written in the chart. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.22.193 ( talk) 00:45, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
That small flag attached to Norway (nr. 118) is definitely not my country's flag. See this page for the correct one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.133.228 ( talk) 23:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
There is a good bit of healthy nitpicking here. But I want to say I am delighted that this page exists and is as clean as it is. To those who have been doing the work, a big THANK YOU! This is essential information. One thing that would be really nice to have is another column indicating current growth rate for each country. I realize that's a sticky wicket, since like population size, estimates are only worth so much and even good estimates can become dated quickly. But still, I think including growth rate would put things in perspective. I don't know the most reliable sources for such data, but I assume those working on this do. So, again, thank you! Eperotao ( talk) 18:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
The article's table is a mess and pretty much useless. We have country population from different dates, different sources and different types of studies (projections, censuses, etc.) which are NOT comparable. The UN has just released its 2012 revision of world population for over 200 world entities from 1950 to 2100. We should just stick to that to make the list comparable to some degree. What do you think? — Pristino ( talk) 07:39, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
I am curious to know why countries within the United Kingdom are not included on this list, whilst countries such as in the kingdom of Denmark are - Greenland, Denmark and the Faroe islands are all separate but Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and England are not. 31.53.188.191 ( talk) 20:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
I would be more useful and much easier to follow the daily updates if everyone editing (the list of countries by population) kindly would specify the subject of their edit in the information box below the editing list, for instance "Update on Cuba". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sokndal ( talk • contribs) 23:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to know if the CIA World Factbook could be used to re-do this list. What's the point in having a list with population estimates for 2010 and 2013 together? The world population increased from 6.8 to 7.1 billion, that's a 300 million difference. The article has even a 2008 estimate. Some of these non-updated countries have big populations that can make a big difference (Indonesia and India are good examples of this).
On the other side, Chinese population simply couldn't fall by 5 million people in 6 months (1.354B for 12/31 according to official estimate, 1.349B for 7/1 according to CIA World Factbook), so I'm not sure of the accuracy of this list.
I also found this one, though I don't know if it's reliable enough.
We can make two (or even more) lists, just like we do in the GDP stuff.
Sorry if my English is wrong, and regards. Roetorm ( talk • contribs)
CIA World Factbook is not always reliable as, neither is UN estimates. For most countries the population numbers they gives are very crude estimates. In case of some less developed contries, these soursces may be a subsitute for lack of new national official updates.
Most developed countries makes official updates (estimates) every month or every three months (quaterly). The national offices of statistics are the best sources, even if these also sometimes are not 100 % accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.210.87.135 ( talk) 09:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
About France: Reunion, Martinique, Guadeloupe, French Guyana (Guyane) and Mayotte are "département", subdivisions, part of the country. For a correct list they shall not be in it. ( 81.56.77.183 ( talk) 22:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC))
The name of the country number 145 is fyrom Antony1979 ( talk) 17:45, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
When I click to sort by rank, what comes up is a list with China first, then Japan (which is 10th), then Serbia and Hong Kong (100th and 101th respectively). Shouldn't it show starting with the last on the list (i.e. the Pitcaim Islands (UK))? Yny501 ( talk) 06:34, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Malaysia's population % is 10x too small. It should be 0.42% and not 0.04% as reported in the table. However, the code that generates that # is a bit more complicated than most other countries, and I'm not entirely sure what's going on, so I don't want to fix it myself lest I break something. Jamesa7171 ( talk) 23:53, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
I propose that numerical rankings should only be designated to nations that are members of the United Nations, in essence there are 193 members, 2 observers (Vatican City and Palestine), and 2 free association states (Niue and Cook Islands). Dependent territories and the 10 disputed states which are not members of the UN should not be ranked as they are not really countries. If no one objects by 21 September 2013, I will execute the changes. cchow2 ( talk) 17:53, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Could someone please address the 2.2-fold population difference between 1 622 000 for Equatorial Guinea here and 736 000 in the country's individual Wiki page. I have read there are political reasons for the country to provide inflated figures. JK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.96.219 ( talk) 11:41, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
I have addressed this before: I don't see how the flag of the SADR represents the territory. The SADR controls a sparsely populated 20-25% part of Western Sahara. 109.99.71.97 ( talk) 19:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
The SADR is the internationally recognised government of Western Sahara, so its flag is used. Yny501 ( talk) 09:00, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Kosovo is not included in the table, yet it also isn't included in the Serbia statistic. I imagine it should be given the same treatment as Western Sahara. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.64.2 ( talk) 23:35, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
The population listed for Canada is excessive. The 2011 census found the population to be only 33,476,000.-- Solomonfromfinland ( talk) 13:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Pizza — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.219.130.37 ( talk) 18:50, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi, In the article, the number 182 refers to a country named "Northern Cyprus". This country does not exist. As it is mentioned in another article named "Northern Cyprus": "Northern Cyprus is a self-declared state that comprises the northeastern portion of the island of Cyprus. Recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community as Turkish-occupied territory of the Republic of Cyprus".
Since the article refers to countries, you indirectly recognize this illegal "country". In addition, anyone who reads it and is not well informed about the issues in the island would think it is a recognized country.
As IT IS NOT RECOGNIZED by any country other than Turkey (and this is because Turkey invaded Cyprus and illegally created this "country") I ask you to respect the rights of the Republic of Cyprus and the International Community and remove the entry "Northern Cyprus" from the article.
I do understand that the articles can be edited by anyone but I also know that Wikipedia is read by lots of people in the world and I want them to know the truth about the issues on the island of Cyprus. Panayiota.sk ( talk) 11:27, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm a little bit unsettled by the vast disparity between the figure given here for Equatorial Guinea (1,622,000) and the figure on the Equatorial Guinea page given by the World Bank (736,296). Are the official sources inflated? They seem to be, considering every other source I can find cited on Wikipedia the population as being in the ballpark of 700,000. If so, they should not be used here, right? I want to make sure others agree before going in and changing it. Someone the Person ( talk) 02:59, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
It's a shame that there are no US States on the list. I would like to see them on the list, but I want to see them on the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.206.10.95 ( talk) 00:32, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
===How about this kiddos, open the article that lists countries in a tab, then open the article that lists states in a tab...and enjoy. 70.115.171.96 ( talk)
Hi, I realise this probably comes up a lot, but I was wondering what would be needed for the EU to show up on this list? It's not a country, sure, but it's very relevant as a political entity. It certainly would make referencing statistics a lot easier! -- 2001:980:A4CB:1:FC02:7A1:37C8:B906 ( talk) 21:48, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
There are approximately 700 Million South Asian Muslims.
Pakistan: 200 Million
India: 250 Million (due to continuous under counting of the Muslim population by the Indian government for the past 6 decades, the Muslim population is generally accepted to be more than the official 200 million number. A large majority of Muslims are leaving India and settling in other Muslim countries but are always counted under the same group and always play the foremost role in south Asian Muslim activities).
Bangladesh: 160 Million
Kashmir: 20 Million
Taking into account other variables, its an approximate population of 700 million. The third largest in the world. I propose making another section for world population based on ethnicity in addition to countries. To show which are the biggest population groups in the world. Muslim Army Knives ( talk) 07:08, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Incorrect Muslims of South Asia form one ethnicity with derivations from Arab, Turkish and Persian stocks similar to how hindus form one ethnicity with derivations from dravidian stock. Muslim Army Knives ( talk) 10:48, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
the wrong map of russia
where is crimea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.208.77 ( talk) 11:13, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Its official name is Myanmar, it's been that for awhile, this needs to be changed. ( talk) 16:14, 20 April 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.145.141.27 ( talk)
I would like to see an additional column of current population growth rate — unless this is already on another page.
—DIV (
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Hi ! There is a population clock on the official Bangladesh website [2]. The population is now 156 million and not 152. Can someone add the population clock please ? Banglabs ( talk) 08:57, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
Why is the population percentage for China and India rounded ? It should have 2 decimal places like the other countries. Example : 18.99% instead of 19%. Banglabs ( talk) 09:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Please update the population of Greece from the 2013 census of Eurostat [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polugap ( talk • contribs) 11:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
References
I was wondering if it would be possible to adapt this or future tables so that they include population density information. If this were possible then perhaps column titles might read something like:
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Rank by Population |
Rank by Pop.density |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | % of world population |
Source | area (km²) |
Pop.density (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
shortened to
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Rank (pop) |
Rank (pd) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | world pop % |
Source | area (km²) |
Pop.den. (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
with an alternate format
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Rank (pop) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | % of world population |
Source | area (km²) |
Rank (pd) |
Pop.density (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
shortened to
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Rank (pop) |
Country (or dependent territory) |
Population | Date | world pop % |
Source | area (km²) |
Rank (pd) |
Pop.den. (#/km²) |
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Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example | Example |
I think this would add a lot more meaningful data to the content if it could be accomplished.
Gregkaye ( talk) 07:09, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
The entry for Kosovo has been repeatedly removed without explanation by IP editors (probably one editor with different, but similar IPs). Also a note for Serbia that the number does not include Kosovo, is removed. The same editor(s) has also made edits to List of countries by population (United Nations), where a note for Serbia that the number does include Kosovo, is removed. The result is that the two lists present widely diverging numbers for Serbia, without explanation, and all mention of Kosovo is removed. Since the editor does not give edit summaries, nor responds to talk page messages, I keep reinserting the numbers and notes. The question is how to deal with this. The obvious way is to ask for semi-protection. I see, however, that this article actually to a large degree is edited by IP editors, who on the whole seem to give a positive input to updating the article. Semi-protection might actually harm the development of the article. The other way to do it is to ask for the IP to be blocked. I hesitate to ask for this, since blocking of IPs often seems to bring new IPs to the battle field. Any thoughts? Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 11:56, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
Oranges and apples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.37.155 ( talk) 22:19, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
The illegally declared independence of Kosovo is not recognized by the majority of world's population. Also, Kosovo is not a member of the United Nations, which under UNSCR 1244 regards it as a part of Serbia temporarily under UN jurisdiction. Thus, it is not an independent country, nor a dependent territory, and can not be in this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 15:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Here is the citation needed! UNSCR_1244#Observations — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 13:36, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
I read the sources, but they don't make a difference. The decisions of the governments of individual countries and their recognition of an illegal move don't make that move legal. The UN Security Council's Resolution 1244 is still valid, and it says that Kosovo and Metohija is a part of Serbia, and calls for meaningful autonomy and self-administration, but not for independence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 18:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
With all due respect, I'm afraid what Materialscientist said is simply not true. The source he cites ( International_recognition_of_Kosovo) is irrelevant for this list. Decisions of the individual governments to recognize an illegal move do not make that move legal. However, that source does matter for something else - to show which country is disregarding binding decisions by the United Nations, or to a smaller extent and open to interpretation, which countries are giving in to the pressure by politically and diplomatically stronger countries, accepting to do the same as those stronger ones did, disregarding the UN. But, that is a matter for some other page. For this page, the ultimately relevant document is the United Nations Security Council 1244, ( UNSCR_1244#Observations), which reaffirms Serbia's sovereignty on its entire territory, including the Autonomous Province of Kosovo and Metohija, which is valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 10:19, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
It says "AP", which stands for "Autonomous Province", thus Kosovo can not appear here as an independent country or a dependent territory. And there is a reliable source, which gives the population, with the territory of Kosovo and Metohija included, on ( List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations)). As a reminder, the AP Kosovo and Metohija has been put under temporary administration of the UN, by the ( UNSCR_1244), so getting the statistical data for the territory is under the UN jurisdiction, which doesn't make Kosovo (and Metohija) a separate entity. And the inclusion of the "total population number" was because of your remark that two lists ( List_of_countries_by_population and List_of_countries_by_population_(United_Nations)), as you said "... present widely diverging numbers for Serbia, without explanation ...". Now it has been explained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 14:00, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I have realized that Abkhazia and South Ossetia were mentioned in one of the above Talks, so I removed my comment. As for consensus, it is obvious that it doesn't exist, for either side, so it is up to both sides in this dispute to provide the citations as the support. And that is what gives me the right to correct the incorrect data, providing valid documents to counter the POV done by others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.246.51.142 ( talk) 19:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
T*U, I did not say Serbian official statistical sources are biased and malicious, I said that official doesn't necessarily mean that the source is correct. If you are now using the official Serbian government's data, then here is a link for you. http://www.srbija.gov.rs/cinjenice_o_srbiji/ustav.php It's the Constitution of Serbia, where it says that "... the Province of Kosovo and Metohija is an integral part of the territory of Serbia ...". So, I suppose now you will do the same as I do, and start regarding it as a part of Serbia. Welcome to my side. It is a progress towards reaching the consensus. The source document used here is an official document of the Government of the USA, and it is biased and malicious. The US Government is pushing its own agenda, its own interests, and it is disregarding binding international documents. That is an example of what I said, that official doesn't mean correct. Of course, this claim can be disputed by other editors, but I am ready to back it up with valid documents. It would take a lot of time and space, and extensive analysis in many fields (geopolitical, strategic, economic....), but it can be done, though probably not here. Just to add that the US Government is not the only government in the world that does so, but in this case its document is used as the source.
.... and apologies to T*U, I missed to answer your question about Abkhazia and South Ossetia. As I said, there already is a post/section in this Talk page, which mentioned those two territories. In my comment, I used the same argument as for some other territories ("it deserves to be in the list"), but I consider that as a silly argument. I was wondering if someone will intervene about it. And now I see such comments classify as Wikipedia:But it's true!, at least in my view, since it is a personal view, not backed by any valid citation (I emphasize "valid citation").
I think it would be a good starting point, on how to "reshape" this list. I have to say that I have expected that someone removes the "unnumbered" entities, because they are not countries, but it didn't happen. As long as the list refers to independent countries and dependent territories, for me it would be unacceptable to see Kosovo and Metohija in it. I think your idea is good, and as I see it, it would be a combination between List of countries by population (United Nations) and List of sovereign states. The first part would be numbered, and containing only the UN members (titled "UN members"), then followed by the section titled "Other territories" (my suggestion), where all the other territories would be listed, without numbering, and with their status explained (if they are aiming at independence, are they partially recognized, not recognized, dependent territory, micronation...), and of course the population numbers of entities listed in both parts of the list. Again I am surprised that "unnumbered entities" appear in the List of countries by population (United Nations).
I think our starting positions on this are well known. I will emphasize again - Kosovo (and Metohija) is not a country, a state, or anything similar. It is an autonomous province and an integral part of Serbia. International documents support that stance. Individual decisions of some countries are in opposition with that, but they can't have priority over the international ones, especially the binding decisions of the United Nations Security Council. Only the political, economic, military an diplomatic power allows them to do so, but that doesn't make such decisions of those individual countries legal.
188.246.51.142 ( talk) 22:57, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
After April 1 official numbers have not been given for Crimea and Sevastopol. This means that we cannot give updated numbers for Ukraine including Crimea and Sevastopol. Adding the numbers from June with numbers from April must be seen as WP:OR, but giving the April numbers in a note will give the Wiki user a chance to do their own calculations. In the May 1 table, the number including Crimea and Sevastopol on basis of SSSU estimation is given in a note, so that can also be included in our note. I have removed the numbers for the present population from the note, since this was more confusing than enlightening. Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 14:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Then whats this? Visit: http://www.rappler.com/nation/64465-100-millionth-filipino-born -- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)-- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)-- The one who has Made a world map ( talk) 13:43, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
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16:53, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
The "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria / Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" is not a sovereign state as defined by several governing United Nations guidelines, needless to cite. To subtract the populations of ISIS/ISIL occupied territory from the populations of which these territories are de jure creates a severe inaccuracy in overall rankings. Please correct and/or remove as necessary. 108.40.75.25 ( talk) 06:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
For Slovenia it is given a very old data, new data is showing only 2.062.116 inhabitants. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sokkol ( talk • contribs) 12:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Repulic of China is a sovereign state, so we can't use Taiwan instead of the Republic of China.
Wikipedia should respect the facts!In Taiwan, the official address is Republic of China. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A862678110 ( talk • contribs) 08:55, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
The entry for Mexico is missing entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.195.189.82 ( talk) 01:12, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
according to most versions tanzania should already have more than 49 million people since its population growth is greater than 1 million per year and can not be based on the 2012 census because it is a country with a fairly large population growth, I think you should put tanzania regarding the population version shown in other languages , above Colombia
according to google , wikipedia in other languages and various sources hill tanzania 2013 with 49.25 million inhabitants , so it would not be surprising that even today in 2015 has 50 million inhabitants , but I think they should at least actulizarlo data as closed its population in 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwin1216 ( talk • contribs) 16:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
I would suggest shortening the date field to just include the year so that there is room for a field displaying growth rate. While it is interesting to see that, for example, Indonesia is 65 million people shy of the USA, I feel that a growth rate will better paint a picture of the two countries respected population than say, the precise date the population was update. 2601:E:CD00:87A:1D16:4A8C:EE9C:4D44 ( talk) 13:59, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello to all of Wikipedia's users.
I don't want to be a nanny guy, and I haven't posted the joke, but he list said that 52 out of about 270 countries are marked to have been checked on day July 1, 2015, being today 15/04/2015 and 16/04/2015 in some parts of the world, thus making impossible that anything happened on July 1, 2015, because this day hasn't arrived yet. Even though I have to admit it was probably an ingenious troll, Wikipedia is not the correct place for that to be. Anyone who has the time and ability to research further information, please edit the content.
Thank you.
Isaacdixonp0 ( talk) 07:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)isaacdixonp0
The "official estimate" for Indonesian population redirects here:
http://www.bps.go.id/eng/tab_sub/view.php?kat=1&tabel=1&daftar=1&id_subyek=12¬ab=12
But the page in question is nonexistent. Does anyone know where the official estimates can be found? BoltNinja ( talk) 05:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
The United States is The Worlds Most Populated Country Not China — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CCE0:A5F0:79CD:B706:B97B:6299 ( talk) 01:18, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
That's simply incorrect. Check any source you'd like.
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72.186.124.1 ( talk) 03:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC) Dominican Republic has 9,445,281 people not 12million like the population by countries indicates.
Measured in percents/year. To allow estimations in changes in the table at later times. Pavel Senatorov, developer of programming language Ya ( talk) 17:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
There's an ongoing edit war. Please provide one definitive reliable source and end this. Ernio48 ( talk) 12:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
As this page regularly witnesses vandalism or placing of wrong (often exaggerated) estimates, it should be permamently protected not only for 1 week or so. This article is so crucial as it is the easiest this kind of list to find on the internet, not mentioning the falseness of similar lists on the internet. Ernio48 ( talk) 21:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Whats with the first of July in population estimation dates? -- Makeandtoss ( talk) 21:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
The population counter is not official. www.indiastat.com is a private website — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.141.218.162 ( talk) 18:22, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
There is a difference of 330,000 between the Russian population clock and wikipedia.-- 90.162.24.163 ( talk) 20:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
@ Mynameisrickyqin: Thanks for your good edits in this List. I would, however, ask you please to explain why you have replaced all the "data country|poptoday 1" templates with manual updating, which will have to be done every day to get the same result. The template is spesifically made for the purpose of avoiding that. Regards! -- T*U ( talk) 15:54, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it Russian POV? Xx234 ( talk) 08:14, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
No. Crimea and Sevastopol are, de facto, controlled by Russia and have been since 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.109.105.248 ( talk) 01:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
This is not a reliable source. It uses Wikipedia as one of their sources. Here's one on the Czech Republic. Let's compare from an earlier version before their publication date.
According to preliminary results of the 2011 census, the majority of the inhabitants of the Czech Republic are Czechs (63.7%), followed by Moravians (4.9%), Slovaks (1.4%), Poles (0.4%), Germans (0.2%) and Silesians (0.1%). As the 'nationality' was an optional item, a substantial number of people left this field blank (26.0%).According to some estimates, there are about 250,000 Romani people in the Czech Republic.
The Jewish population of Bohemia and Moravia, 118,000 according to the 1930 census, was virtually annihilated by the Nazi Germans during the Holocaust. There were approximately 4,000 Jews in the Czech Republic in 2005.
The Czech Republic has one of the least religious populations in the world, being the country with the third most atheistic population by percentage, behind only China and Japan.
64% of the Czech Republic's population is Czech, followed by Moravians (5%), Slovaks (1.4%), Poles (0.4%) and Germans (0.2%). At the last census in 2011, "nationality" was optional and about 26% left this blank. It's estimated that the Czech Republic is home to 250,000 Romani people, as well as 440,000 foreigners, the largest group being Ukranian (140,000) followed by Slovak, Vietnamese, Russian and Polish.
The Nazis almost completely destroyed the Jewish population in the region, which dropped from 118,000 in 1930 to just 4,000 in 2005.
The country has one of the least religious populations globally with the third highest percentage of atheists (34%) after China and Japan.
Does anyone think the Syrian Bureau of Statistics can provide any meaningful population estimate? I believe we shall switch to UN sources for the time being. Demmo ( talk) 13:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
2015 census just released. Can someone please update Makeandtoss ( talk) 01:14, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
if Kosovo, transnistria, abkhazia, south ossetia and taiwan make the list with differing levels of recognition around the world, why not nagorno karabakh? it's been a de facto independent country since 1991. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.49.6.225 ( talk) 10:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
Someone (IP : 123.88.217.39) is trying very hard to exclude France of the List of countries and dependencies by population, and to have it replaced by
Metropolitan France (the part of france which is located in Europe). There is no explanation for it, the oversea departments and territories of France are part of the country.
Metropolitan France is not a country, or a dependency. France is a country, and should be on the list.
Once-but-never-again (
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14:43, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
As of 2015-09-29 Palestine is not included in this list. I am unsure if this has been agreed upon based on Wikipedia policy or if it is simply the result of the series of 'add Palestine / remove Palestine' article edits that have been conducted by multiple accounts.
Could we please get some clarity on this issue?
1. Under Wikipedia policies, should Palestine be or should it not be included in this list?
2. Can / should anything be done do stop the 'edit war' on this issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.140.155.189 ( talk) 01:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
For some reason, AKS471883 keeps removing data templates from this article, and replaces them with manual calculations. [5] [6] This is completely unnecessary, as the templates automatically calculate today's population and ensure the same data is consistently displayed across multiple articles. The removals have been accompanied by multiple population changes with no explanation as to where the new figures are coming from and certainly no sources. Given the lack of sources I was tempted to do a bulk revert, but this is an issue that has been going on for quite some time now. -- AussieLegend ( ✉) 08:09, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
This list has 195 numbered states and includes Taiwan. There are 193 UN member states plus two observers and neither includes Taiwan. This list includes Palestine and Vatican City so which UN member state is missing? 110.22.123.142 ( talk) 16:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)