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Beginning list Siberian Chiffchaff
This list badly needs the Irish names for all of the native Irish birds at least. 89.101.41.216 ( talk) 23:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC) Ireland doesn't have a national bird - see here [1]) and here [2] Bparle ( talk) 13:29, 6 February 2015 (UTC)bparle
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I think this document needs to also show the list of the names of all the birds in Irish (Gaeilge). I am willing to add an additional column if people don't object. Tomás — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacCormaic ( talk • contribs) 01:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
I've found what appears to be a reliable source for the names in Irish. The website of the British Trust for Ornithology has the names of British Isles birds in several languages including Irish. I was able to extract the Irish names below from their website. For instance the link https://app.bto.org/birdfacts/results/bob1520.htm is for the mute swan, which it gives in Irish as "Eala Bhalbh". Putting the number to the right of each name below in place of "1520" in the link above takes you to the webpage for that species.
At very least, we could use "Search by Irish name". British Trust for Ornithology as a reference.
The list below may be helpful for comparison. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 03:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted the recent additions and changes which cite IOC taxonomy because retaining them causes several problems: (1) The new citation is not to the IOC taxonomy, but to the most recent version of the Irish Rare Birds Committee list (December 31, 2019), which provides IOC 9.1 names as alternates to the main list's names. (And IOC 9.1 is out of date, replaced sequentially by 9.2 and 10.1.) (2) The added gull species and the lumping of the petrels follow the 2019 IRBC list, so the retained text stating that the source of the list is the 2015 IRBC list and Bird Checklists of the World and the associated counts is no longer true. (3) Though I have not examined the 2019 list in detail, it is highly likely that more additions or other changes are needed to match that update. (4) A very large number of additional changes are necessary to convert to IOC regardless of whether the list itself is updated, so the new text stating that the taxonomy "...largely follows that of the IOC world list version 9.1." is far from true. I will update the article to the new IRBC list using IOC 10.2 when the latter is available, which should be within a couple of weeks. Craigthebirder ( talk) 20:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok. If you are happy to update the list when 10.2 comes out then that is fine by me. AustinRedd007 ( talk) 05:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
The major update of July 17, 2020, made the following changes:
Craigthebirder ( talk) 21:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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Donkey8: You recently deleted many species with the edit summary "List has been updated to only include species actually present in Ireland, including vagrants causes confusion and bloats lists"
. I think before that is done a consensus should be developed. Your belief about what is best may not be shared with others on Wikipedia. All other lists I am aware of include vagrants. I see you did something similar at
List of mammals of Ireland. Let's discuss this; either here or at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds. Thank you.
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Beginning list Siberian Chiffchaff
This list badly needs the Irish names for all of the native Irish birds at least. 89.101.41.216 ( talk) 23:33, 29 June 2013 (UTC) Ireland doesn't have a national bird - see here [1]) and here [2] Bparle ( talk) 13:29, 6 February 2015 (UTC)bparle
References
I think this document needs to also show the list of the names of all the birds in Irish (Gaeilge). I am willing to add an additional column if people don't object. Tomás — Preceding unsigned comment added by MacCormaic ( talk • contribs) 01:08, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
I've found what appears to be a reliable source for the names in Irish. The website of the British Trust for Ornithology has the names of British Isles birds in several languages including Irish. I was able to extract the Irish names below from their website. For instance the link https://app.bto.org/birdfacts/results/bob1520.htm is for the mute swan, which it gives in Irish as "Eala Bhalbh". Putting the number to the right of each name below in place of "1520" in the link above takes you to the webpage for that species.
At very least, we could use "Search by Irish name". British Trust for Ornithology as a reference.
The list below may be helpful for comparison. SchreiberBike | ⌨ 03:43, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted the recent additions and changes which cite IOC taxonomy because retaining them causes several problems: (1) The new citation is not to the IOC taxonomy, but to the most recent version of the Irish Rare Birds Committee list (December 31, 2019), which provides IOC 9.1 names as alternates to the main list's names. (And IOC 9.1 is out of date, replaced sequentially by 9.2 and 10.1.) (2) The added gull species and the lumping of the petrels follow the 2019 IRBC list, so the retained text stating that the source of the list is the 2015 IRBC list and Bird Checklists of the World and the associated counts is no longer true. (3) Though I have not examined the 2019 list in detail, it is highly likely that more additions or other changes are needed to match that update. (4) A very large number of additional changes are necessary to convert to IOC regardless of whether the list itself is updated, so the new text stating that the taxonomy "...largely follows that of the IOC world list version 9.1." is far from true. I will update the article to the new IRBC list using IOC 10.2 when the latter is available, which should be within a couple of weeks. Craigthebirder ( talk) 20:40, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Ok. If you are happy to update the list when 10.2 comes out then that is fine by me. AustinRedd007 ( talk) 05:50, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
The major update of July 17, 2020, made the following changes:
Craigthebirder ( talk) 21:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
@
Donkey8: You recently deleted many species with the edit summary "List has been updated to only include species actually present in Ireland, including vagrants causes confusion and bloats lists"
. I think before that is done a consensus should be developed. Your belief about what is best may not be shared with others on Wikipedia. All other lists I am aware of include vagrants. I see you did something similar at
List of mammals of Ireland. Let's discuss this; either here or at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds. Thank you.
SchreiberBike |
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22:06, 2 April 2023 (UTC)