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![]() | On 14 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sejm (set index) to List of meetings called Sejm. The result of the discussion was moved. |
IMO it is not a good idea to use wikipedia slang unknown to the world in article titles. (WTF is " set index" one would ask). IMO the article is better to be framed as a Wikipedia:Broad-concept article and title is something like Sejm (assembly). Accordingly, the structure of tehe lede must be shifted from "dab-like" to genereic article, actually starting with a dicdef. Staszek Lem ( talk) 22:38, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move away from the current title; such a move had greater support among editors, and the while consensus is not determined by counting votes the arguments in opposition were not based in policy.
No consensus on which title to use, and so per WP:NOGOODOPTIONS I am moving it to List of assemblies called Sejm, as it seems there is a slight preference for it.
Editors who disagree with this choice may open a new RM at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 19:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Sejm (set index) → List of meetings called Sejm – Far better title than whatever this is, all of the items listed here are some form of meeting, except for Seym River, which can just be a hatnote on Sejm. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (no relation) 20:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 ( talk) 20:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 23:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 10:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
[a title that] readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use– and I doubt anyone is likely to use a title with an unclear DAB like "(set index)" to try to search for this page's content. The title does not indicate "this is a set index of Sejm assemblies" but instead indicates "the name of this set index is Sejm, and we're disambiguating it to distinguish from other topics called Sejm".Additionally, WP:NATURAL links to a section within WP:TITLEDAB which holds that parenthetical disambiguation is only recommended when
none of the other solutions lead to an optimal title. This is in line with general titling practices, where parentheses are consistently dispreferred when there's an alternative title that aptly conveys the article's subject without using them. I haven't seen any argument to indicate that the proposed title has the kind of flaws that would make it a less optimal title than the parenthetically disambiguated one. ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
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![]() | On 14 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sejm (set index) to List of meetings called Sejm. The result of the discussion was moved. |
IMO it is not a good idea to use wikipedia slang unknown to the world in article titles. (WTF is " set index" one would ask). IMO the article is better to be framed as a Wikipedia:Broad-concept article and title is something like Sejm (assembly). Accordingly, the structure of tehe lede must be shifted from "dab-like" to genereic article, actually starting with a dicdef. Staszek Lem ( talk) 22:38, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move away from the current title; such a move had greater support among editors, and the while consensus is not determined by counting votes the arguments in opposition were not based in policy.
No consensus on which title to use, and so per WP:NOGOODOPTIONS I am moving it to List of assemblies called Sejm, as it seems there is a slight preference for it.
Editors who disagree with this choice may open a new RM at any time. ( closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal ( talk) 19:12, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Sejm (set index) → List of meetings called Sejm – Far better title than whatever this is, all of the items listed here are some form of meeting, except for Seym River, which can just be a hatnote on Sejm. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (no relation) 20:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 ( talk) 20:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Mattdaviesfsic ( talk) 23:01, 28 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Vanderwaalforces ( talk) 10:01, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
[a title that] readers are likely to look or search for and that editors would naturally use– and I doubt anyone is likely to use a title with an unclear DAB like "(set index)" to try to search for this page's content. The title does not indicate "this is a set index of Sejm assemblies" but instead indicates "the name of this set index is Sejm, and we're disambiguating it to distinguish from other topics called Sejm".Additionally, WP:NATURAL links to a section within WP:TITLEDAB which holds that parenthetical disambiguation is only recommended when
none of the other solutions lead to an optimal title. This is in line with general titling practices, where parentheses are consistently dispreferred when there's an alternative title that aptly conveys the article's subject without using them. I haven't seen any argument to indicate that the proposed title has the kind of flaws that would make it a less optimal title than the parenthetically disambiguated one. ModernDayTrilobite ( talk • contribs) 16:57, 6 January 2024 (UTC)