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Is listed here as being poisoned, but his page says "There were two attempts on McFadden's life, a failed shooting and an apparent poisoning that made him "violently ill" after attending a political banquet in Washington. [6][7] He died in 1936 on a visit to New York City" Which implies to me that he wasn't assasinated by poisoning. Shall I remove him? Billsmith453 ( talk) 14:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
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He was not a politician, but a figure in a religious movement. He does not belong on this page.
23 May 2011 (UTC)
take Linda Collins-Smith off this list, that's obviously not an assassination
Wouldn't it be better to have (president) or whatever after each of their names? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpookyMulder ( talk • contribs) 14:25, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Joseph Smiths should be taken off; he's a religious figure, not a politician?
The man killed by Byron Looper should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.220.161 ( talk) 17:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Martin Luther King was certainly a political leader, no? He wasn't an elected official, obviously, but it that the only criteria? Malcolm X should probably be there too... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.127.51.82 ( talk) 03:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is Rockwell in this list? How does he meet the criteria? He was the leader of a small fringe group, was never elected or appointed to any political post. Dblobaum ( talk) 22:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Would diplomat count as an appointed position? Many US diplomats have been assassinated over the years. Mikebar ( talk) 10:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this list include the officials who were victims of Charles Lee "Cookie" Thornton's shooting in Kirkwood, MO on February 7th?
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Yes, I think it should. I'll get to work on it. -- Big Brother 1984 ( talk) 19:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Paul Wellstone? Wut? Dirtysocks ( talk) 02:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Alexander Hamilton's death wouldn't be considered an assassination because if I remember correctly, duels are not considered assassinations. Wellstone died in a plane crash that was in no way proved to be an assassination, se he doesn't belong on the list either. HaItsNotOver ( talk) 04:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
The chart would be easier to put into context if it were in chronological order. TripOnMyShip ( talk) 17:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
This page would be more useful if there was an additional column that listed the reported reason(s) or motive(s) of the assasin(s). Patterns might be discerned that could indicate why assasinations occur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoda2000 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Unless the article is about politicians violently killed by others, being killed by Indians and "New Mexican rebels" shouldn't qualify as an assassination. DOR (HK) ( talk) 07:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
This list should be in order by year. 96.229.193.68 ( talk) 06:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
UH OH, CONTROVERSY~!
In all seriousness, that part saying "According to the Warren Commission" sounds like a very biased and obvious charge of conspiracy that has long since been disproven. It shouldn't be there; it shouldn't say anything regarding conspiracy. There's a whole page already devoted to the subject. AndarielHalo ( talk) 14:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
No one who has a triple digit IQ and has read the critics works, especially John Armstrong's book Harvey and Lee: How the CIA Framed Oswald is an "adherent" to the Specter's fairy tale "single bullet theory". The only supporters are the corporate press. You can put "disputed" next to Huey Long's assassin but you can't do for Oswald or Sirhan, when there isn't a shred of proof that shows they killed anyone, or James Earl Ray too for that matter?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.23.21.81 ( talk) 18:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
The article says that he was killed by an unknown member of the KKK but his page says he was killed by George Clark, Secretary of the Democratic Committee of Monroe County. Mikenlesley ( talk) 06:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a fine reference for this assassination in The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, by Michael Newton Trobster ( talk) 01:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind...found it...dur
I cannot believe that the life and assassination of Harvey Milk in 1978 was not included in the list. He fits the criteria: Elected American Official (Member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors January 8, 1978 – November 27, 1978) and was assasinated, while in office (November 27, 1978).
I think its sad he's been overlooked, especially since his story was recently featured in film, thus making it a current, relevant discussion point.
Do we have RS that says John Roll was assassinated, as opposed to just murdered? F ( talk) 23:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
I sort of wonder if a judge who isn't elected should be considered a politician. Cadwaladr ( talk) 01:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Roll should be removed, he belongs on this list instead: List of United States federal judges killed in office. P. S. Burton ( talk) 00:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Would the page be enhanced if notable attempts were mentioned?
Examples:
George Wallace-- Four term Alabama governor, four time presidential candidate, at the center of the segregation storm, etc. He was shot FIVE TIMES and paralyzed for life, confined to a wheelchair.
Ronald Reagan-- A sitting president was shot to the ground. The bullet was one inch from his heart.
The title of this page is "List of assassinated American politicians". These two examples meet the "American politician" criteria. As for the "assassinated" criteria-- the bloody violence was real, the intent was real. Morbidity in those circumstances is a matter of chance, and mere chance hardly seems a significant enough reason to be listed - or not listed - on Wikipedia.
So I'm wondering about a second list under the main one, but on the same page, for "attempts".
Just a thought. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.210.83 ( talk) 20:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Uh, NO. The definition of assassination is "To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons." Murder requires death, so murder ≠ attempted murder. While there might be cause to have a separate list for attempted assassinations, it seems silly to include the names and circumstances of people who did not die on a list that, by its very definition, requires death as a prerequisite for inclusion. ~~JJEagleHawk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.101.29 ( talk) 15:02, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey I am going to change the term disputed on the assasination page, I know his decendadnts claim he did not do it. But it is certainly less disputed by the public in general as to the assassin was than say JFK. I am just putting this here for comment if someone comes to change it back to "disputed" 50.80.150.100 ( talk) 02:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a fine reference for this assassination in The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, by Michael Newton Trobster ( talk) 01:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Is this really an assasination? His article claims he was beaten to death by his insane son. It doesn't seem to be politically motivated. 76.87.9.203 ( talk) 22:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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I've spent several hours working to find what information there is on assassinated Florida State Senator Elisha G. Johnson. Having written that article I thought he belonged here. But there's not a single newspaper article that I can cite as source. So I left it with a reference to the article on him. I hope nobody has a problem with that. It was apparently swept under the rug, deliberately non-publicized at the time. deisenbe ( talk) 16:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I was surprised to find Alexander Hamilton missing, so I put him in. I have no idea what to cite as a source. Way out of my area. deisenbe ( talk) 16:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Merriam-Webster defines the word 'assassinate' as "to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons." Many of the politicians included in this list were either not targeted, not killed in a sudden or secret attack, or were not killed for political reasons. A killing does not need to meet all of these criteria to be an assassination, but it has to be distinct from a murder or an unintended death.
Edward Dickinson Baker's death during the Battle of Ball's Bluff should be removed as he was not targeted, he merely died during the course of battle.
Larry McDonald's death as a result of KAL 007 being shot down when it entered Soviet air space does not appear to have been targeted.
Henry Denhardt, after murdering his fiancée, was killed by his fiancée's brothers. This was not about politics; he was just murdered.
Duels tended to result from political disagreements, but they were not sudden or secret; both parties had to agree to take part and set out a time and place. For this reason, Alexander Hamilton, Spencer Darwin Pettis, Jonathan Cilley, and David Colbreth Broderick should be removed.
As I am new, please let me know if there are things I should do differently in the future.
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Endnotes ( talk) 16:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)Endnotes
Duels most certainly do not count as assassinations, because it is entirely voluntary; both men are there of their own free will and by mutually agreed contract. By contrast, I have a major problem with Denhardt; his death was a revenge murder, not an assassination. I have already removed Hamilton for the reasons I've stated, and I would lobby strongly to remove Denhardt, as well. — Dilidor ( talk) 16:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
There are a few others here who almost certainly weren't "assassinated" based on the descriptions given or based on their Wikipedia pages: Linda Collins-Smith, Henry Denhardt, W. H. H. Tison, Edwin Stanton McCook, John P. Slough, and Charles C. P. Arndt, which are in reverse chronological order. I'll comment out the ones I'm most confident in for now. Blippy1998 ( talk) 09:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Please have a look at this May 25, 2018, article and add your opinion on whether some version of “disputed”, “conspiracy theories,” or the views of his two children cited should be mentioned. I think it would do more good than harm to mention them.
deisenbe ( talk) 12:40, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
and see whether he would fit in. He is described as the alcalde of Taos Pueblo. Carptrash ( talk) 04:19, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Someone might want to write up Hawaii state senator Larry Kuriyama, who was assassinated in 1970. I realize that the page only lists figures who have their own Wikipedia page, but Senator Kuriyama's killing shook Hawaii police, prosecutors, organized criminals, and the public to one degree or another for years and would be worthy of an article. 72.253.184.202 ( talk) 09:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
AJ Rosier, WHH Tison, and Henry Denhart all appear to be politicians that were murdered for apolitical reasons and therefore not assassinated. Should they be removed? Mr-Knowledge-Guy ( talk) 02:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Is listed here as being poisoned, but his page says "There were two attempts on McFadden's life, a failed shooting and an apparent poisoning that made him "violently ill" after attending a political banquet in Washington. [6][7] He died in 1936 on a visit to New York City" Which implies to me that he wasn't assasinated by poisoning. Shall I remove him? Billsmith453 ( talk) 14:43, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
I turned off the edit function for individual sections because the pictures were pushing all of the edit links down to the bottom all bunched up on one line, at least in Firefox. The __NOEDITSECTION__ tag can be removed once there is enough content in each section to allow the pictures room to breathe.-- Old Hoss 19:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
He was not a politician, but a figure in a religious movement. He does not belong on this page.
23 May 2011 (UTC)
take Linda Collins-Smith off this list, that's obviously not an assassination
Wouldn't it be better to have (president) or whatever after each of their names? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SpookyMulder ( talk • contribs) 14:25, August 25, 2007 (UTC)
Joseph Smiths should be taken off; he's a religious figure, not a politician?
The man killed by Byron Looper should be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.220.161 ( talk) 17:32, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Martin Luther King was certainly a political leader, no? He wasn't an elected official, obviously, but it that the only criteria? Malcolm X should probably be there too... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.127.51.82 ( talk) 03:44, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is Rockwell in this list? How does he meet the criteria? He was the leader of a small fringe group, was never elected or appointed to any political post. Dblobaum ( talk) 22:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Would diplomat count as an appointed position? Many US diplomats have been assassinated over the years. Mikebar ( talk) 10:02, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Shouldn't this list include the officials who were victims of Charles Lee "Cookie" Thornton's shooting in Kirkwood, MO on February 7th?
24.196.90.38 (
talk)
05:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I think it should. I'll get to work on it. -- Big Brother 1984 ( talk) 19:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Paul Wellstone? Wut? Dirtysocks ( talk) 02:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I think Alexander Hamilton's death wouldn't be considered an assassination because if I remember correctly, duels are not considered assassinations. Wellstone died in a plane crash that was in no way proved to be an assassination, se he doesn't belong on the list either. HaItsNotOver ( talk) 04:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
The chart would be easier to put into context if it were in chronological order. TripOnMyShip ( talk) 17:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
This page would be more useful if there was an additional column that listed the reported reason(s) or motive(s) of the assasin(s). Patterns might be discerned that could indicate why assasinations occur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoda2000 ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Unless the article is about politicians violently killed by others, being killed by Indians and "New Mexican rebels" shouldn't qualify as an assassination. DOR (HK) ( talk) 07:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
This list should be in order by year. 96.229.193.68 ( talk) 06:43, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
UH OH, CONTROVERSY~!
In all seriousness, that part saying "According to the Warren Commission" sounds like a very biased and obvious charge of conspiracy that has long since been disproven. It shouldn't be there; it shouldn't say anything regarding conspiracy. There's a whole page already devoted to the subject. AndarielHalo ( talk) 14:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
No one who has a triple digit IQ and has read the critics works, especially John Armstrong's book Harvey and Lee: How the CIA Framed Oswald is an "adherent" to the Specter's fairy tale "single bullet theory". The only supporters are the corporate press. You can put "disputed" next to Huey Long's assassin but you can't do for Oswald or Sirhan, when there isn't a shred of proof that shows they killed anyone, or James Earl Ray too for that matter?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.23.21.81 ( talk) 18:57, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
The article says that he was killed by an unknown member of the KKK but his page says he was killed by George Clark, Secretary of the Democratic Committee of Monroe County. Mikenlesley ( talk) 06:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
There is a fine reference for this assassination in The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, by Michael Newton Trobster ( talk) 01:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Never mind...found it...dur
I cannot believe that the life and assassination of Harvey Milk in 1978 was not included in the list. He fits the criteria: Elected American Official (Member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors January 8, 1978 – November 27, 1978) and was assasinated, while in office (November 27, 1978).
I think its sad he's been overlooked, especially since his story was recently featured in film, thus making it a current, relevant discussion point.
Do we have RS that says John Roll was assassinated, as opposed to just murdered? F ( talk) 23:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
I sort of wonder if a judge who isn't elected should be considered a politician. Cadwaladr ( talk) 01:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
Roll should be removed, he belongs on this list instead: List of United States federal judges killed in office. P. S. Burton ( talk) 00:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Would the page be enhanced if notable attempts were mentioned?
Examples:
George Wallace-- Four term Alabama governor, four time presidential candidate, at the center of the segregation storm, etc. He was shot FIVE TIMES and paralyzed for life, confined to a wheelchair.
Ronald Reagan-- A sitting president was shot to the ground. The bullet was one inch from his heart.
The title of this page is "List of assassinated American politicians". These two examples meet the "American politician" criteria. As for the "assassinated" criteria-- the bloody violence was real, the intent was real. Morbidity in those circumstances is a matter of chance, and mere chance hardly seems a significant enough reason to be listed - or not listed - on Wikipedia.
So I'm wondering about a second list under the main one, but on the same page, for "attempts".
Just a thought. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.235.210.83 ( talk) 20:13, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Uh, NO. The definition of assassination is "To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons." Murder requires death, so murder ≠ attempted murder. While there might be cause to have a separate list for attempted assassinations, it seems silly to include the names and circumstances of people who did not die on a list that, by its very definition, requires death as a prerequisite for inclusion. ~~JJEagleHawk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.101.29 ( talk) 15:02, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Hey I am going to change the term disputed on the assasination page, I know his decendadnts claim he did not do it. But it is certainly less disputed by the public in general as to the assassin was than say JFK. I am just putting this here for comment if someone comes to change it back to "disputed" 50.80.150.100 ( talk) 02:33, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
There is a fine reference for this assassination in The Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes, by Michael Newton Trobster ( talk) 01:50, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Is this really an assasination? His article claims he was beaten to death by his insane son. It doesn't seem to be politically motivated. 76.87.9.203 ( talk) 22:35, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
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I've spent several hours working to find what information there is on assassinated Florida State Senator Elisha G. Johnson. Having written that article I thought he belonged here. But there's not a single newspaper article that I can cite as source. So I left it with a reference to the article on him. I hope nobody has a problem with that. It was apparently swept under the rug, deliberately non-publicized at the time. deisenbe ( talk) 16:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I was surprised to find Alexander Hamilton missing, so I put him in. I have no idea what to cite as a source. Way out of my area. deisenbe ( talk) 16:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Merriam-Webster defines the word 'assassinate' as "to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons." Many of the politicians included in this list were either not targeted, not killed in a sudden or secret attack, or were not killed for political reasons. A killing does not need to meet all of these criteria to be an assassination, but it has to be distinct from a murder or an unintended death.
Edward Dickinson Baker's death during the Battle of Ball's Bluff should be removed as he was not targeted, he merely died during the course of battle.
Larry McDonald's death as a result of KAL 007 being shot down when it entered Soviet air space does not appear to have been targeted.
Henry Denhardt, after murdering his fiancée, was killed by his fiancée's brothers. This was not about politics; he was just murdered.
Duels tended to result from political disagreements, but they were not sudden or secret; both parties had to agree to take part and set out a time and place. For this reason, Alexander Hamilton, Spencer Darwin Pettis, Jonathan Cilley, and David Colbreth Broderick should be removed.
As I am new, please let me know if there are things I should do differently in the future.
Thank you,
Endnotes ( talk) 16:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)Endnotes
Duels most certainly do not count as assassinations, because it is entirely voluntary; both men are there of their own free will and by mutually agreed contract. By contrast, I have a major problem with Denhardt; his death was a revenge murder, not an assassination. I have already removed Hamilton for the reasons I've stated, and I would lobby strongly to remove Denhardt, as well. — Dilidor ( talk) 16:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
There are a few others here who almost certainly weren't "assassinated" based on the descriptions given or based on their Wikipedia pages: Linda Collins-Smith, Henry Denhardt, W. H. H. Tison, Edwin Stanton McCook, John P. Slough, and Charles C. P. Arndt, which are in reverse chronological order. I'll comment out the ones I'm most confident in for now. Blippy1998 ( talk) 09:11, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
Please have a look at this May 25, 2018, article and add your opinion on whether some version of “disputed”, “conspiracy theories,” or the views of his two children cited should be mentioned. I think it would do more good than harm to mention them.
deisenbe ( talk) 12:40, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
and see whether he would fit in. He is described as the alcalde of Taos Pueblo. Carptrash ( talk) 04:19, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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Someone might want to write up Hawaii state senator Larry Kuriyama, who was assassinated in 1970. I realize that the page only lists figures who have their own Wikipedia page, but Senator Kuriyama's killing shook Hawaii police, prosecutors, organized criminals, and the public to one degree or another for years and would be worthy of an article. 72.253.184.202 ( talk) 09:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
AJ Rosier, WHH Tison, and Henry Denhart all appear to be politicians that were murdered for apolitical reasons and therefore not assassinated. Should they be removed? Mr-Knowledge-Guy ( talk) 02:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)