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A more efficient way of creating lists of archaeologists would be, at first, to create separate lists for living and deceased archaeologists. The "living" category could also include some indication of current status: practising, retired, academic affiliation, areas of research and activity. Likewise, deceased archaeologists should have a brief indication as to their years of birth and death, areas of research and activity, etc. Comments / suggestions? Pjamescowie 11:55, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
A good idea, as it will keep seperate the arguments of "so and so has not earned a space here yet" (for living, practising) and those over past archaeologists whose career and 'fame' are bickered over in detail. Kilr0y 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Some of the entries here are spurious - Lara Croft?!?! On a quick look, at least one of the names is linked to a page about a non-archaeologist. The list needs to at least be what it says it is: a list of archaeologists. What the criteria for inclusion might be is open to interpretation, but I would suggest that somewhere the criteria ought to include being involved in archaeology. Or is that just pedantry? Iain1917 06:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Somewhere on Wik there is (or was) some sort of List of fictional archaeologists. It should be given at the bottom of the LOA page. Kdammers ( talk) 00:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Why don't we list von Daeniken? He's a fraud and not a trained archaeologist, but the public sees him qas an archaeologist. (Cp. the discussion in German Wik). Kdammers 07:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Reply to Kdammers: Because the purpose of this rather futile list is to give credit to real archaeologists and inform the public of who they are, not to keep misguiding them by giving un-due credit to one of the biggest insults to the field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.96.78 ( talk) 08:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The page description current reads "Archaeology, originally an amateur pastime, is becoming increasingly popular, and it is now possible for archaeologists to become minor celebrities as a result of media exposure."
This assertion is misleading on several levels. While professional, scientific archaeology does have roots in being something of a "pastime," in many cases what people in the 19th and early 20th centuries were calling "archaeology" was often antiquarianism, and antiquarians should generally be kept in their own section or on a separate this page.
Additionally, although excavation pursuits continued to be dominated by those wealthy enough to pursue it as the field passed from the realm of antiquarianism to a more solidly scientific study, the main idea of the sentence - implying that archaeologists can receive celebrity status - is absurd. People don't become archaeologists to gain fame. Statements like this belong on the pseudoarchaeology page.
Additionally, I have added Clarence Bloomfield Moore to this list. I realize some would argue that he represents more of an antiquarian than a professional archaeologist, however I feel that A) his work more closely represents the spirit of scientific archaeology, and B) his detailed records spanning 20 or so years of research in the southern United States remain a critical line of data even to this day. In many cases his writings remain the only significant or extant source of information we have on sites long destroyed. He is a crucial figure in North American archaeology. Frito31382 20:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC), updated 00:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the unencyclopaedic statement and added André Parrot Alexemanuel 04:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see pseudo archaeologists such as Thor Heyerdahl not be added to the list. I removed his entry today, and have since been reverted by Kdammers ( talk). We discussed it a little at my talk page. I'm of the opinion that all such embarrassments to the discipline such as Hancock, Von Daniken, etc. shouldn't be on the list. Rather than turn this into a revert war, I'd like to get some more input from the community and come to a concensus on the matter. Thanks. Heironymous Rowe ( talk) 06:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm going to be reformatting this page to contain more information, a la List of improvisational theatre companies. Thanks! SMSpivey ( talk) 03:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
(fl. 1850?) British; Britain, channel Islands, stone age; or is this supposed to by Lucas or F. C. Lukis, 1788-1871, http://www.c-s-p.org/flyers/9781847183576-sample.pdf? Kdammers ( talk) 02:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Should this list include archaeologists that do not yet have a WP article? If so, what criteria applies? I did look up a couple of names that are red links, and found that they are archaeologists, although I cannot judge their "eminence". Including only people who have an article in the English WP would make maintenance simpler, but might unfairly exclude archaeologists not well known in English-speaking countries. -- Donald Albury 13:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
And I found an answer here. Persons listed should either have an article in WP, or a citation to a source establishing notability in the field. -- Donald Albury 00:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea how it happened, but we did not have Willey on this list! This even though we have a lot of current people. I'd like some help with checking that we don't have any other embarrassing omissions. So, could some of you check that the top archaeologists in your area are on the list? Kdammers ( talk) 02:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Should we add Thomas Browne? His Urn Burial is a careful archaeological work. Kdammers ( talk) 02:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I reverted the clean-up becuase a number of prominent individuals were included in the removal:
finlayson, Gamble, GARDIN, Gibbon, Hole, Lamberg-karlovsky, Leone, probably Barry Lewis, Lip, MCKERN (originated of the Midwest taxonomic system), MILLON, Yoffe, probably Zimmerman, and ZUBROW. A number of eastern European archaeologists were removed, but I am not a specialist in that area to be able to judge. How-ever, at least one has moderate-length articles in Wik articles in languageS from that area. Kdammers ( talk) 06:44, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
The last three or four edits are vandalism. I know how to roll back one edit but not more than one. Can some-one please clean this up? Kdammers ( talk) 00:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
What are the rules for inclusion on this list? Is the list just the names of some notable archaeologists that have been randomly gathered or cherry-picked and given the accolade of "eminent" based on an editor or twos' feelings? Or is there an RS basis for listing these archaeologists as "eminent"? As opposed to merely notable?
Can a reader take absence from "A list of eminent archaeologists" to signify that any missing archaeologists are considered non-eminent? Israel Finkelstein is on the list. Neil Silberman is not. William G. Dever is not. Baruch Halpern is not. How did Finkelstein become eminent? What does Finkelstein possess that Silberman et al lack?
Is this better "A list of some notable archaeologists"? If it's not then the criteria for inclusion need to be made explicit to avoid misleading readers. 203.7.99.17 ( talk) 06:57, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The issue of "some" is a problem endemic to Wikipedia lists. We can easily overlook some-one. So, I think we have two issues: type 1 and type 2 errors. To avoid omitting good candidates, we need to keep looking in Wik and elsewhere; to avoid including "lesser" archaeologists, it seems we need at lest to abide by Weller's criteria. Can and should we tighten them? I don't know. But see the list of culled names earlier on this talk page for a perspective. Kdammers ( talk) 22:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Should we make a Wik page for and then include this archaeologist recently in the news? Kdammers ( talk) 05:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
The following archaeologists are on the list, but have neither a Wik page nor external links. They should either have this changed or be cut. Please help.
Kdammers ( talk) 21:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Also:
Todorova now has a ref (obit).
Biagi is a red-link with no outside ref. He does have an extensive list of achievements at http://www.unive.it/data/persone/5591081/curriculum, but they probably do not qualify as a ref for Wik. Pretty much if not exactly the same information is given at https://www.harappa.com/experts/paolo-biagi. Can we use this site? Kdammers ( talk) 02:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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We have one entry that is a red link that does not have a ref.: Rodrigo Silva Brazilian; Middle East, Israel, Biblical archaelogy [archaeology] 37.99.84.190 ( talk) 02:41, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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We currently have two archaeologists with no links: Ferenc Horváth and Rodrigo Silva. The former has a lot of publications, but I haven't seen any secondary mention of him (I don't read Hungarian); the latter is a problem to isolate without knowing about Brazilian academia/museums or biblical archaeology. Can anyone help out here? Kdammers ( talk) 08:06, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
As far as I can tell these five random nationalities are the only ones that have separate lists of archaeologists. The main list is not very long (it doesn't need to be split) and already includes the nationality of the people on it, so I don't see any encyclopaedic value in these cross-categorisations at the moment. The national lists are also all short, very incomplete and poorly developed (no leads etc.) All they're doing is creating extra editorial overhead; you have to remember to add new biographies to multiple lists, and most of us are bad enough at remembering to add them to the main list. – Joe ( talk) 19:34, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
https://inews.co.uk/news/technology/chance-coughenour-google-arts-culture-digital-archaeologist-lion-mosul-496964 Kdammers ( talk) 10:30, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
University of Chicago; American; Anatolia, space-and-power 67.209.131.126 ( talk) 06:09, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
This adventurer has a Wikipedia article. Ron Wyatt claimed that he found the Ark. At best, he can be called an amateur archaeologist. I doubt he qualifies for our list, but I wanted to raise his name for consideration by others. 13:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Should we include Alexandre Lenoir? Kdammers ( talk) 10:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The Namibian archaeologist Nankela recently had her entry removed because there is not Wikipedia article about her. The fuller story is that there was a long article about her that fairly recently got moved to draft status because some of the (key) information about her did not have references. The Wikipedia note at the top of the draft page says it could take some months to review the article. A laudatory article (with mention of some of the 'unreferenced' content) from five years ago, before she had finished her doctorate, appeared in this source, which appears to be general-interest outlet on Namibia: https://www.namibian.com.na/index.php?page=archive-read&id=143261 . She seems significant to me, but this is outside my geographical areas of knowledge. Kdammers ( talk) 04:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I have added Spennemann's area of interest based on his Wikipedia article. How-ever, I don't see why his is listed on the archaeologists page (maybe because he is an assistant prof. of cultural heritage management - ?). Does any-one object to removing him? Kdammers ( talk) 04:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
There are about 700 entries on this list, but according to PetScan, Category:Archaeologists contains at least 4,000 eligible for inclusion. Should we consider a tool-assisted, mass update of the list using the category/Wikidata?
One obvious issue is that with 4,000 entries the list would be too long and need to be split and subdivided in some way, so perhaps we should consider that first? – Joe ( talk) 08:03, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
@ Kdammers: von den Driesch is on the list twice, under D and V. I don't think it really matters, but if we follow WP:MCSTJR she should be under D. – Joe ( talk) 15:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
What about Hilary du Cros ? Kdammers ( talk) 14:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Could someone knowledgeable about Egyptology chime in on whether Kathleen Martinez rates being on the list? Kdammers ( talk) 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Ina Plug? Kdammers ( talk) 08:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
There is an entire book about the career of Vincenzo La Rosa, but there is not even an entry in the Italian Wikipedia. Vincenzo La Rosa (1941- 2014): Un archeologo tra Sicilia e Egeo ed. Lucia Arcifa and Pietro Militello. Praehistorica Mediterranea 9. 2021. Kdammers ( talk) 00:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
US - SWUSA - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/land-ancient-ones-ann-axtell-morris-cinematic-treatment-180978344/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.138.66 ( talk • contribs)
Should George McJunkin be included? While he didn't do a lot in archaeology, his discovery of the Folsom Site was pivotal in New World archaeology. 2600:6C67:1C00:300:2570:CCB6:26F5:F03F ( talk) 01:28, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Should Paul Borchardt (1886-1953) be included? He does have an entry as an archaeologist in Wikipedia, but the entry doesn't convince me -- It's a lot about speculation and a mistake (Or do we just accept any-one who is primarily an archaeologist as long as s/he has a Wikipedia article? Any thoughts?). He seems his notoriety (i.e., reason for having an entry in Wikipedia has more to do with being a Jewish spy for the Nazis. Kdammers ( talk) 23:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Should we include the current head of research at Troy, Rüstem Aslan? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-troy-180979553/?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits Kdammers ( talk) 20:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Galina Ivanovna Matveeva 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F8C3:7FAD:52C:189C ( talk) 13:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
This person's name was recently removed because there is no article about that person and no outside citation. How-ever, the name is in a lot of Wikipedia articles. If any-one (such as the person who originally added the name) feels there should be an article, please write one. Then the name could be re-added. Kdammers ( talk) 03:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
I have re-added the leading New Archaeologist Longacre with different references, though I don't know why Thoughtco (mentioned in a Wikipeida article about the company that owns it) should be considered unreliable. Kdammers ( talk) 03:39, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
She is called a historian in this article which lauds her archaeological work: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/09/833048/renowned-historian-honoured-archaeological-discoveries . Should we add her (She doesn' have a Wik page)? Kdammers ( talk) 18:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Kdammers ( talk) 22:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Is he significant enough? https://kashmirobserver.net/2023/01/08/former-director-archaeology-ghulam-mohiudeen-hakeem-is-no-more/ 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:618D:3A7E:5451:6D73 ( talk) 15:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Powell was a significant researcher and explorer for the Smithsonian. Does his archaeological work qualify him for inclusion? 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:D44:D7F8:84F1:F3FB ( talk) 22:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
See https://Indiana Jones and the nature of archaeology: Fact and fiction in early 20th century fieldwork | The Past (the-past.com) and /info/en/?search=Hammoudi_ibn_Ibrahim Kdammers ( talk) 19:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
John Lloyd Stephens was a key figure in Mayan archaeology. But should we consider this explorer an archaeologist? Kdammers ( talk) 20:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I suggest we remove Miljana Ristic: There is no link. She appears to only have a bachelor's degree and no publications. Kdammers ( talk) 17:31, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Needed: Elizabeth Wing, a leading zooarchaeologist. Kdammers ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
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A more efficient way of creating lists of archaeologists would be, at first, to create separate lists for living and deceased archaeologists. The "living" category could also include some indication of current status: practising, retired, academic affiliation, areas of research and activity. Likewise, deceased archaeologists should have a brief indication as to their years of birth and death, areas of research and activity, etc. Comments / suggestions? Pjamescowie 11:55, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
A good idea, as it will keep seperate the arguments of "so and so has not earned a space here yet" (for living, practising) and those over past archaeologists whose career and 'fame' are bickered over in detail. Kilr0y 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Some of the entries here are spurious - Lara Croft?!?! On a quick look, at least one of the names is linked to a page about a non-archaeologist. The list needs to at least be what it says it is: a list of archaeologists. What the criteria for inclusion might be is open to interpretation, but I would suggest that somewhere the criteria ought to include being involved in archaeology. Or is that just pedantry? Iain1917 06:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Somewhere on Wik there is (or was) some sort of List of fictional archaeologists. It should be given at the bottom of the LOA page. Kdammers ( talk) 00:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Why don't we list von Daeniken? He's a fraud and not a trained archaeologist, but the public sees him qas an archaeologist. (Cp. the discussion in German Wik). Kdammers 07:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Reply to Kdammers: Because the purpose of this rather futile list is to give credit to real archaeologists and inform the public of who they are, not to keep misguiding them by giving un-due credit to one of the biggest insults to the field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.96.78 ( talk) 08:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
The page description current reads "Archaeology, originally an amateur pastime, is becoming increasingly popular, and it is now possible for archaeologists to become minor celebrities as a result of media exposure."
This assertion is misleading on several levels. While professional, scientific archaeology does have roots in being something of a "pastime," in many cases what people in the 19th and early 20th centuries were calling "archaeology" was often antiquarianism, and antiquarians should generally be kept in their own section or on a separate this page.
Additionally, although excavation pursuits continued to be dominated by those wealthy enough to pursue it as the field passed from the realm of antiquarianism to a more solidly scientific study, the main idea of the sentence - implying that archaeologists can receive celebrity status - is absurd. People don't become archaeologists to gain fame. Statements like this belong on the pseudoarchaeology page.
Additionally, I have added Clarence Bloomfield Moore to this list. I realize some would argue that he represents more of an antiquarian than a professional archaeologist, however I feel that A) his work more closely represents the spirit of scientific archaeology, and B) his detailed records spanning 20 or so years of research in the southern United States remain a critical line of data even to this day. In many cases his writings remain the only significant or extant source of information we have on sites long destroyed. He is a crucial figure in North American archaeology. Frito31382 20:46, 25 October 2007 (UTC), updated 00:00, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I have removed the unencyclopaedic statement and added André Parrot Alexemanuel 04:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to see pseudo archaeologists such as Thor Heyerdahl not be added to the list. I removed his entry today, and have since been reverted by Kdammers ( talk). We discussed it a little at my talk page. I'm of the opinion that all such embarrassments to the discipline such as Hancock, Von Daniken, etc. shouldn't be on the list. Rather than turn this into a revert war, I'd like to get some more input from the community and come to a concensus on the matter. Thanks. Heironymous Rowe ( talk) 06:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi, all. I'm going to be reformatting this page to contain more information, a la List of improvisational theatre companies. Thanks! SMSpivey ( talk) 03:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
(fl. 1850?) British; Britain, channel Islands, stone age; or is this supposed to by Lucas or F. C. Lukis, 1788-1871, http://www.c-s-p.org/flyers/9781847183576-sample.pdf? Kdammers ( talk) 02:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Should this list include archaeologists that do not yet have a WP article? If so, what criteria applies? I did look up a couple of names that are red links, and found that they are archaeologists, although I cannot judge their "eminence". Including only people who have an article in the English WP would make maintenance simpler, but might unfairly exclude archaeologists not well known in English-speaking countries. -- Donald Albury 13:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
And I found an answer here. Persons listed should either have an article in WP, or a citation to a source establishing notability in the field. -- Donald Albury 00:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I have no idea how it happened, but we did not have Willey on this list! This even though we have a lot of current people. I'd like some help with checking that we don't have any other embarrassing omissions. So, could some of you check that the top archaeologists in your area are on the list? Kdammers ( talk) 02:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
Should we add Thomas Browne? His Urn Burial is a careful archaeological work. Kdammers ( talk) 02:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
I reverted the clean-up becuase a number of prominent individuals were included in the removal:
finlayson, Gamble, GARDIN, Gibbon, Hole, Lamberg-karlovsky, Leone, probably Barry Lewis, Lip, MCKERN (originated of the Midwest taxonomic system), MILLON, Yoffe, probably Zimmerman, and ZUBROW. A number of eastern European archaeologists were removed, but I am not a specialist in that area to be able to judge. How-ever, at least one has moderate-length articles in Wik articles in languageS from that area. Kdammers ( talk) 06:44, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
The last three or four edits are vandalism. I know how to roll back one edit but not more than one. Can some-one please clean this up? Kdammers ( talk) 00:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
What are the rules for inclusion on this list? Is the list just the names of some notable archaeologists that have been randomly gathered or cherry-picked and given the accolade of "eminent" based on an editor or twos' feelings? Or is there an RS basis for listing these archaeologists as "eminent"? As opposed to merely notable?
Can a reader take absence from "A list of eminent archaeologists" to signify that any missing archaeologists are considered non-eminent? Israel Finkelstein is on the list. Neil Silberman is not. William G. Dever is not. Baruch Halpern is not. How did Finkelstein become eminent? What does Finkelstein possess that Silberman et al lack?
Is this better "A list of some notable archaeologists"? If it's not then the criteria for inclusion need to be made explicit to avoid misleading readers. 203.7.99.17 ( talk) 06:57, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
The issue of "some" is a problem endemic to Wikipedia lists. We can easily overlook some-one. So, I think we have two issues: type 1 and type 2 errors. To avoid omitting good candidates, we need to keep looking in Wik and elsewhere; to avoid including "lesser" archaeologists, it seems we need at lest to abide by Weller's criteria. Can and should we tighten them? I don't know. But see the list of culled names earlier on this talk page for a perspective. Kdammers ( talk) 22:55, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Should we make a Wik page for and then include this archaeologist recently in the news? Kdammers ( talk) 05:11, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
The following archaeologists are on the list, but have neither a Wik page nor external links. They should either have this changed or be cut. Please help.
Kdammers ( talk) 21:02, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Also:
Todorova now has a ref (obit).
Biagi is a red-link with no outside ref. He does have an extensive list of achievements at http://www.unive.it/data/persone/5591081/curriculum, but they probably do not qualify as a ref for Wik. Pretty much if not exactly the same information is given at https://www.harappa.com/experts/paolo-biagi. Can we use this site? Kdammers ( talk) 02:28, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
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We have one entry that is a red link that does not have a ref.: Rodrigo Silva Brazilian; Middle East, Israel, Biblical archaelogy [archaeology] 37.99.84.190 ( talk) 02:41, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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We currently have two archaeologists with no links: Ferenc Horváth and Rodrigo Silva. The former has a lot of publications, but I haven't seen any secondary mention of him (I don't read Hungarian); the latter is a problem to isolate without knowing about Brazilian academia/museums or biblical archaeology. Can anyone help out here? Kdammers ( talk) 08:06, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
As far as I can tell these five random nationalities are the only ones that have separate lists of archaeologists. The main list is not very long (it doesn't need to be split) and already includes the nationality of the people on it, so I don't see any encyclopaedic value in these cross-categorisations at the moment. The national lists are also all short, very incomplete and poorly developed (no leads etc.) All they're doing is creating extra editorial overhead; you have to remember to add new biographies to multiple lists, and most of us are bad enough at remembering to add them to the main list. – Joe ( talk) 19:34, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
https://inews.co.uk/news/technology/chance-coughenour-google-arts-culture-digital-archaeologist-lion-mosul-496964 Kdammers ( talk) 10:30, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
University of Chicago; American; Anatolia, space-and-power 67.209.131.126 ( talk) 06:09, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
This adventurer has a Wikipedia article. Ron Wyatt claimed that he found the Ark. At best, he can be called an amateur archaeologist. I doubt he qualifies for our list, but I wanted to raise his name for consideration by others. 13:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Should we include Alexandre Lenoir? Kdammers ( talk) 10:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
The Namibian archaeologist Nankela recently had her entry removed because there is not Wikipedia article about her. The fuller story is that there was a long article about her that fairly recently got moved to draft status because some of the (key) information about her did not have references. The Wikipedia note at the top of the draft page says it could take some months to review the article. A laudatory article (with mention of some of the 'unreferenced' content) from five years ago, before she had finished her doctorate, appeared in this source, which appears to be general-interest outlet on Namibia: https://www.namibian.com.na/index.php?page=archive-read&id=143261 . She seems significant to me, but this is outside my geographical areas of knowledge. Kdammers ( talk) 04:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
I have added Spennemann's area of interest based on his Wikipedia article. How-ever, I don't see why his is listed on the archaeologists page (maybe because he is an assistant prof. of cultural heritage management - ?). Does any-one object to removing him? Kdammers ( talk) 04:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
There are about 700 entries on this list, but according to PetScan, Category:Archaeologists contains at least 4,000 eligible for inclusion. Should we consider a tool-assisted, mass update of the list using the category/Wikidata?
One obvious issue is that with 4,000 entries the list would be too long and need to be split and subdivided in some way, so perhaps we should consider that first? – Joe ( talk) 08:03, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
@ Kdammers: von den Driesch is on the list twice, under D and V. I don't think it really matters, but if we follow WP:MCSTJR she should be under D. – Joe ( talk) 15:23, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
What about Hilary du Cros ? Kdammers ( talk) 14:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Could someone knowledgeable about Egyptology chime in on whether Kathleen Martinez rates being on the list? Kdammers ( talk) 15:51, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Ina Plug? Kdammers ( talk) 08:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
There is an entire book about the career of Vincenzo La Rosa, but there is not even an entry in the Italian Wikipedia. Vincenzo La Rosa (1941- 2014): Un archeologo tra Sicilia e Egeo ed. Lucia Arcifa and Pietro Militello. Praehistorica Mediterranea 9. 2021. Kdammers ( talk) 00:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
US - SWUSA - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/land-ancient-ones-ann-axtell-morris-cinematic-treatment-180978344/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.138.66 ( talk • contribs)
Should George McJunkin be included? While he didn't do a lot in archaeology, his discovery of the Folsom Site was pivotal in New World archaeology. 2600:6C67:1C00:300:2570:CCB6:26F5:F03F ( talk) 01:28, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
Should Paul Borchardt (1886-1953) be included? He does have an entry as an archaeologist in Wikipedia, but the entry doesn't convince me -- It's a lot about speculation and a mistake (Or do we just accept any-one who is primarily an archaeologist as long as s/he has a Wikipedia article? Any thoughts?). He seems his notoriety (i.e., reason for having an entry in Wikipedia has more to do with being a Jewish spy for the Nazis. Kdammers ( talk) 23:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Should we include the current head of research at Troy, Rüstem Aslan? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/in-search-of-troy-180979553/?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits Kdammers ( talk) 20:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
Galina Ivanovna Matveeva 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:F8C3:7FAD:52C:189C ( talk) 13:04, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
This person's name was recently removed because there is no article about that person and no outside citation. How-ever, the name is in a lot of Wikipedia articles. If any-one (such as the person who originally added the name) feels there should be an article, please write one. Then the name could be re-added. Kdammers ( talk) 03:24, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
I have re-added the leading New Archaeologist Longacre with different references, though I don't know why Thoughtco (mentioned in a Wikipeida article about the company that owns it) should be considered unreliable. Kdammers ( talk) 03:39, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
She is called a historian in this article which lauds her archaeological work: https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2022/09/833048/renowned-historian-honoured-archaeological-discoveries . Should we add her (She doesn' have a Wik page)? Kdammers ( talk) 18:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
Kdammers ( talk) 22:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Is he significant enough? https://kashmirobserver.net/2023/01/08/former-director-archaeology-ghulam-mohiudeen-hakeem-is-no-more/ 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:618D:3A7E:5451:6D73 ( talk) 15:28, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Powell was a significant researcher and explorer for the Smithsonian. Does his archaeological work qualify him for inclusion? 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:D44:D7F8:84F1:F3FB ( talk) 22:56, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
See https://Indiana Jones and the nature of archaeology: Fact and fiction in early 20th century fieldwork | The Past (the-past.com) and /info/en/?search=Hammoudi_ibn_Ibrahim Kdammers ( talk) 19:24, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
John Lloyd Stephens was a key figure in Mayan archaeology. But should we consider this explorer an archaeologist? Kdammers ( talk) 20:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I suggest we remove Miljana Ristic: There is no link. She appears to only have a bachelor's degree and no publications. Kdammers ( talk) 17:31, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Needed: Elizabeth Wing, a leading zooarchaeologist. Kdammers ( talk) 20:08, 12 January 2024 (UTC)