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I changed the layout of the HMLA section. Looking for feedback. Worth keeping? Go back to just the straight list? Just trying something different. Let me know-- Looper5920 23:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I have been messing around and was looking for some feedback on what others thought of maybe making the list look like the chart below. Interested to hear feedback.-- Looper5920 08:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Insignia | Official Name | Nickname |
---|---|---|
VMM-263 | Thunder Chickens |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
---|---|---|
VMM-263 | Thunder Chickens |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
---|---|---|
HMT-301 | Windwalkers | |
HMT-302 | Phoenix | |
HMT-303 | Atlas |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
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HMH-361 | Flying Tigers | |
HMH-362 | Ugly Angels | |
HMH-363 | Red Lions | |
HMH-461 | Iron Horse | |
HMH-462 | Heavy Haulers | |
HMH-463 | Pegasus | |
HMH-464 | Condors | |
HMH-465 | Warhorse | |
HMH-466 | Wolfpack | |
HMH-769 | Titan | |
HMH-772 | Hustler |
(Transferring comments made on Looper5920's talk page):With the list as long as it is now, I think that the graphics (one per line) will make it too unwieldy. Since it is a single column list, there is room after each squadron name to put a comma and the nickname (ex: VMGR-152, "Sumos"). One idea that would add some color/image and would be section appropriate would be to put a picture of the particular aircraft that each squadron flies (on the right). — ERcheck ( talk) @ 12:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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How about this...Smaller tables, split into two columns with picture to the right. Does this look better? Manageable?
Great job, the tables have turned out excellent I think. They fit fairly nicely with photos as well. Jo e I 08:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking, maybe we can add another column to designate the wing and base for each squadron. There certainly is enough room to the right, and it may be handy since the Corps like to shuffle units about, especially in times of war. For example:
Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadrons
Heavy helicopter squadrons were first formed in 1966 when the Marine Corps began flying the heavy lift CH-53 Sea Stallion during the Vietnam War. [1] Their primary role is moving cargo and equipment with the secondary role of transferring troops ashore in an amphibious assault. Most of the squadrons have transitioned to the larger and more powerful CH-53E Super Stallion; however, three squadrons of the original Sea Stallions still remain. [2] The CH-53Es are the most powerful helicopter in the U.S. military inventory today. [3]
Squadron Name | Insignia | Nickname | Date Commissioned | Senior Command | Station |
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HMH-361 | Flying Tigers | February 25, 1952 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [4] | |
HMH-362 | Ugly Angels | April 30, 1952 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [5] | |
HMH-363 | Red Lions | June 2, 1952 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [6] | |
HMH-461 | Iron Horse | March 15, 1944 | MAG-26, 2nd MAW | MCAS New River, NC [7] | |
HMH-462 | Heavy Haulers | April 15, 1944 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [8] | |
HMH-463 | Pegasus | July 20, 1944 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [9] | |
HMH-464 | Condors | April 5, 1944 | MAG-26, 2nd MAW | MCAS New River, NC [10] | |
HMH-465 | Warhorse | December 1, 1981 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [11] | |
HMH-466 | Wolfpack | November 30, 1984 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [12] | |
HMH-769 | Titan | April 15, 1958 | MAG-46, 4th MAW | Edwards AFB, CA [13] | |
HMH-772 | Hustler | April 15, 1958 | MAG-46, 4th MAW | NAS Willow Grove, PA [14] |
Too big? I think it looks better than large blank spaces, but that's my opinion. Whether the additional info makes it more or less encyclopedic is up for debate, I suppose. Bahamut0013 16:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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This is a work in progress. Just stashing it here for the time being United States Marine Corps aviation began on May 22, 1912 when First Lieutenant Alfred A. Cunningham reported to Naval Aviation Camp in Annapolis, Maryland to train to become a Naval Aviator. World War I saw the establishment of the first two flying units in the Marine Corps: the First Marine Aeronautic Company and the 1st Marine Aviation Force. In 1925, Marine aviation first appeared in the annual schedule of Naval Aeronautical Organization seeing the first two squadrons, VS-14M and VS-15M joining the fleet air organization.
The structure of Marine Corps aviation saw great change with the establishment of the Fleet Marine Force in 1933. Aviation became its own section at Headquarters Marine Corps under the direction of the Director of Aviation.
World War II saw Marine air expand to the largest size it would ever attain. By the end of the war, it would consist of 5 air wings, 31 aircraft groups and 145 aircraft squadrons with the largest number of personnel assigned at 125, 162 Marines.
The post war years saw Marine air experimenting with helicopters
Okay, I've always been confused by the Navy and Marine Corps naming conventions. To somebody like me (and I'm a 48 yr old Air Force brat and ex-Army), it seems like the "official" name would actually be "Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 115", and the unit designator would be "VMFA-115". To someone like me it also makes browsing through lists like Category:United States Marine Corps fixed wing squadrons easier to see at a glance what types of roles/aircraft the various units are. It would be a huge undertaking, but has anybody on the Aviation task force proposed renaming the articles so it's easier to identify what type of units they are? The preceding comment would of course apply to Naval Aviation as well, I don't know if there's a master list/category that contains both Marine and Navy aviation to use as an example. But, with no Navy/Marine background, I could be wrong. Just a comment from somebody not familar with this, and it would probably help quite a few others like myself. wbfergus 15:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
The page looks great! Question though... the page lists an historical Marine Corps Target Towing Detachment. Would there be value added by including the current Marine Corps VMR Detatchments? Hebron 09:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
"The Marine Corps’ light attack squadrons are composite squadrons usually made up of 18 AH-1W Cobras and 9 UH-1N Hueys."
VMGRT-253 is the KC-130 FRS. It is apart of MAG 41. It probably should be added right below Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadrons. -- ProdigySportsman 01:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
It may be mentioned that the VMO squadrons flew UH-1E's before they switched over to the Broncos. The UH-1E's came to the VMO's about '64 and started phasing into the HMLA squadrons around '67. 207.145.125.166 21:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Since the inactive sqadrons were spun off into thier own article, it shares some of the same info as this one. Instead of simply deleting the duplicate info from one of the two, I was wondering if making a history of United States Marine Corps Aviation would be appropriate and notable enough for it's own page. Bahamut0013 15:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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I changed the layout of the HMLA section. Looking for feedback. Worth keeping? Go back to just the straight list? Just trying something different. Let me know-- Looper5920 23:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
I have been messing around and was looking for some feedback on what others thought of maybe making the list look like the chart below. Interested to hear feedback.-- Looper5920 08:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Insignia | Official Name | Nickname |
---|---|---|
VMM-263 | Thunder Chickens |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
---|---|---|
VMM-263 | Thunder Chickens |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
---|---|---|
HMT-301 | Windwalkers | |
HMT-302 | Phoenix | |
HMT-303 | Atlas |
Official Name | Insignia | Nickname |
---|---|---|
HMH-361 | Flying Tigers | |
HMH-362 | Ugly Angels | |
HMH-363 | Red Lions | |
HMH-461 | Iron Horse | |
HMH-462 | Heavy Haulers | |
HMH-463 | Pegasus | |
HMH-464 | Condors | |
HMH-465 | Warhorse | |
HMH-466 | Wolfpack | |
HMH-769 | Titan | |
HMH-772 | Hustler |
(Transferring comments made on Looper5920's talk page):With the list as long as it is now, I think that the graphics (one per line) will make it too unwieldy. Since it is a single column list, there is room after each squadron name to put a comma and the nickname (ex: VMGR-152, "Sumos"). One idea that would add some color/image and would be section appropriate would be to put a picture of the particular aircraft that each squadron flies (on the right). — ERcheck ( talk) @ 12:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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How about this...Smaller tables, split into two columns with picture to the right. Does this look better? Manageable?
Great job, the tables have turned out excellent I think. They fit fairly nicely with photos as well. Jo e I 08:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I was just thinking, maybe we can add another column to designate the wing and base for each squadron. There certainly is enough room to the right, and it may be handy since the Corps like to shuffle units about, especially in times of war. For example:
Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadrons
Heavy helicopter squadrons were first formed in 1966 when the Marine Corps began flying the heavy lift CH-53 Sea Stallion during the Vietnam War. [1] Their primary role is moving cargo and equipment with the secondary role of transferring troops ashore in an amphibious assault. Most of the squadrons have transitioned to the larger and more powerful CH-53E Super Stallion; however, three squadrons of the original Sea Stallions still remain. [2] The CH-53Es are the most powerful helicopter in the U.S. military inventory today. [3]
Squadron Name | Insignia | Nickname | Date Commissioned | Senior Command | Station |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
HMH-361 | Flying Tigers | February 25, 1952 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [4] | |
HMH-362 | Ugly Angels | April 30, 1952 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [5] | |
HMH-363 | Red Lions | June 2, 1952 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [6] | |
HMH-461 | Iron Horse | March 15, 1944 | MAG-26, 2nd MAW | MCAS New River, NC [7] | |
HMH-462 | Heavy Haulers | April 15, 1944 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [8] | |
HMH-463 | Pegasus | July 20, 1944 | MAG-24, 1st MAW | MCB Hawaii, HI [9] | |
HMH-464 | Condors | April 5, 1944 | MAG-26, 2nd MAW | MCAS New River, NC [10] | |
HMH-465 | Warhorse | December 1, 1981 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [11] | |
HMH-466 | Wolfpack | November 30, 1984 | MAG-16, 3rd MAW | MCAS Miramar, CA [12] | |
HMH-769 | Titan | April 15, 1958 | MAG-46, 4th MAW | Edwards AFB, CA [13] | |
HMH-772 | Hustler | April 15, 1958 | MAG-46, 4th MAW | NAS Willow Grove, PA [14] |
Too big? I think it looks better than large blank spaces, but that's my opinion. Whether the additional info makes it more or less encyclopedic is up for debate, I suppose. Bahamut0013 16:03, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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This is a work in progress. Just stashing it here for the time being United States Marine Corps aviation began on May 22, 1912 when First Lieutenant Alfred A. Cunningham reported to Naval Aviation Camp in Annapolis, Maryland to train to become a Naval Aviator. World War I saw the establishment of the first two flying units in the Marine Corps: the First Marine Aeronautic Company and the 1st Marine Aviation Force. In 1925, Marine aviation first appeared in the annual schedule of Naval Aeronautical Organization seeing the first two squadrons, VS-14M and VS-15M joining the fleet air organization.
The structure of Marine Corps aviation saw great change with the establishment of the Fleet Marine Force in 1933. Aviation became its own section at Headquarters Marine Corps under the direction of the Director of Aviation.
World War II saw Marine air expand to the largest size it would ever attain. By the end of the war, it would consist of 5 air wings, 31 aircraft groups and 145 aircraft squadrons with the largest number of personnel assigned at 125, 162 Marines.
The post war years saw Marine air experimenting with helicopters
Okay, I've always been confused by the Navy and Marine Corps naming conventions. To somebody like me (and I'm a 48 yr old Air Force brat and ex-Army), it seems like the "official" name would actually be "Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 115", and the unit designator would be "VMFA-115". To someone like me it also makes browsing through lists like Category:United States Marine Corps fixed wing squadrons easier to see at a glance what types of roles/aircraft the various units are. It would be a huge undertaking, but has anybody on the Aviation task force proposed renaming the articles so it's easier to identify what type of units they are? The preceding comment would of course apply to Naval Aviation as well, I don't know if there's a master list/category that contains both Marine and Navy aviation to use as an example. But, with no Navy/Marine background, I could be wrong. Just a comment from somebody not familar with this, and it would probably help quite a few others like myself. wbfergus 15:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
The page looks great! Question though... the page lists an historical Marine Corps Target Towing Detachment. Would there be value added by including the current Marine Corps VMR Detatchments? Hebron 09:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
"The Marine Corps’ light attack squadrons are composite squadrons usually made up of 18 AH-1W Cobras and 9 UH-1N Hueys."
VMGRT-253 is the KC-130 FRS. It is apart of MAG 41. It probably should be added right below Marine Aerial Refueler Transport Squadrons. -- ProdigySportsman 01:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
It may be mentioned that the VMO squadrons flew UH-1E's before they switched over to the Broncos. The UH-1E's came to the VMO's about '64 and started phasing into the HMLA squadrons around '67. 207.145.125.166 21:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Since the inactive sqadrons were spun off into thier own article, it shares some of the same info as this one. Instead of simply deleting the duplicate info from one of the two, I was wondering if making a history of United States Marine Corps Aviation would be appropriate and notable enough for it's own page. Bahamut0013 15:38, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
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