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I think that if you wanted to merge the characters, that you would have to merge all of the characters, not just some, as well as all of the info about each character. That would be a lot of merging that I just don't think is worth all of the effort.
Planet X42 (
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01:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The characters do not require separate coverage. This list will cover each important character and the more important Pokémon. The hundreds of minor characters will be covered within the episode summaries on the lists, and the minor Pokémon will be covered on the Pokémon lists.
TTN (
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14:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
(un-indent): The problem, Taiketsu, is that there are few to none verifiable third-party sources that contain information on the characters. The reason why all of the individual Pokémon articles were merged (with the exceptions of Pikachu, Meowth, and later Bulbasaur) is because there is no real-world, out-of-universe information on the Pokémon (with the exceptions of the three mentioned, and even then Bulbasaur is hovering on the borderline). The articles fail Wikipedia guidelines. It's as simple as that. The individual articles can always be demerged if the relevant information is found. But take a look at Ash Ketchum. The section Creation and Conception is completely blank, and has been for months. The article isn't meant to be mainly a list of all of the Pokémon that Ash has caught. Until relevant and meaningful information like that can be found, sourced, and added to the article, what point is there in having an article? If it fails policy, why should it be kept? This isn't about what fans want. This is about following established Wikipedia policies and guidelines. For these reasons, I say to merge all of the articles that have been proposed. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 23:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, maybe because this guys been in 400 episodes? If this gets merged, you can just go merge all the other main characters in other things. There is a reason they call it list of MINOR, yes MINOR characters in pokemon series. Now, the word minor means a lot here. Dacheatcode ( talk) 01:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Also, can you think of a way to fit that entire article into one iitty bitty section? Cause i cant. Apply for the world record books if you can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dacheatcode ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the article should be merged. There is enough info in it for it to be it's own article. Misty is an important character in the Pokémon anime, so she is notable enough. → C Teng [talk] 02:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Woah BEGD, I don't appreciate that kind of language on this site. If you wanted to go into a PUBLC resturant and say things like that, I don't think that you would get a good reaction, and if there's a cop, maybe even a serious warning for profanity in public. I am also posting this to your talk page so you can get the message.
Planet X42 (
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01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
BEGD, you're stepping out of line here. Take a few minutes to calm down and stop swearing. That doesn't accomplish anything except for a loss of respect. Search for reliable third-party sources instead if you are so desperate for the characters to have their own articles. TTN, I have a quickquestion for you. You say that This list will cover... the more important Pokémon. What criteria do you use to say how "important" a Pokemon is?
MelicansMatkin (
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18:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately all of the pokemon character articles suggested for merge do fail the requirements for maintaining a respective separate article. A lot of the information discusses the pokemon of each character and not the character themselves. While it is important to note several key pokemon specific to the character, the bulk of each article should not focus on their pokemon nor should it list every single one the character caught. As such, a merge would be necessary. However, considering the immense popularity of the Pokemon franchise and the main characters, an abundance of out-of-universe information can be collected and a significant revamp of each article is certainly within. Instead of jumping into a merge that undoubtedly causes heated arguments on both sides, it would be best to perform major cleanups of the article to see if at the end the article is worthy of being independant of a list. If it can't, or the cleanup isn't taken seriousely and not done, then we can go ahead and merge the articles. This would give a chance for editors to do their thing and bring articles to standards...even though it should have been done in the first place. Though what's done is done so this gives editors a second chance so to speak and saves everyone from spending useless energy arguing. A time-table of say a month can be set on each article, then a review, and if it doesn't pass then a merge can be performed as agreed. It's certainly better than tagging merges on everything, though that would be a great way to get people's attention in saying this needs a big clean if you want to keep it. Fox816 ( talk) 20:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is dawn, may and max considered not a main character or not as improtant (as in not having thier own pages)? they should have thier own pages again, clean this up! signed by: can't sign in again! this mac in the school cant use the sign username! can anyone sign for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferrariguy1000 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
People have even written academic papers on the darn things:
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-22037604_ITM
Geni 20:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
There are already outside articles and real-world references included in the topic about Jesse and James. The names "Jessie" and "James" link directly to "Jesse James", the outlaw and backrobber of the 1800s. The article I am against merging also gives their Japanese names and their connection to famous samuari. How is this failing the Wikipedia guildlines? It is not failing at all, and in fact, has way too much information to be simply merged. I did not know the facts about these Team Rocket members, and I really enjoyed the article about them. It has many subtopics. It compares the TV shows to the movies, and the games. It is very focused, and divided rationally. It was also informative, interesting, well-written, and everything I expect when I come to Wikipedia. There is no reason the list of characters can not simply link to the more indepth topics already presented. Amirrah ( talk) 20:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:N is a guideline for editing, not a policy. The reason many separate articles exist for individual characters is that their prominence within a setting warrants attention. This is particularly true of characters for which a good deal of encyclopedic content can be gathered. It's for this reason I oppose the merge as suggested. The Pokemon series in particular has dozens of characters. Merging the prominent characters back into the fold would imply a perceived reduction of importance, or greatly extend the length of the article, depending on how the merge was handled. I propose two alternatives:
Both formats have worked well for other settings—it will work here, too. — Nahum Reduta [ talk| contribs] 10:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
why must people assume that, just because Misty doesn't have any OUT OF UNIVERSE sources, it gives them the right to merge HER and the rest of the main cast of Pokemon into a list? under that token, we should merge Son Goku's article with List of Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z, Link's article with List of characters in The Legend of Zelda, and many other things. Heck, why don't we merge EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE IN EXISTANCE into one super article, while we are at it.
See, this is the problem with this WP:N thing, It would mean that we have to merge every single article on this site into one super article, thus creating an even bigger mess than before. So I say we should keep this article, and NOT MERGE IT, and the same goes for the rest of the articles that you are proposing to merge.
~~Weedle_McHairybug~~
The problem *I* see with merging the articles is that Misty isn't only in the Pokemon anime. There are several different versions of her: the one in the games, from Pokemon Adventures, from Electric Tale of Pikachu, etc. This article covers all of her media appearances. Merging her into a list of anime only characters would imply that she only appears there or that her role in the anime is the one of utmost importance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.2 ( talk) 19:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
About Naruto characters articles the best examples are the first fours. About creation and conception the most important information is saying that the characters are based from the videogames versions but with a source. Tintor2 ( talk) 11:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
So... what does everyone think? I say yes.-- 72.208.190.234 ( talk) 00:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm indifferent either way, it's nice having different character articles, but not important. A clean up should be done first, see if they should stay after being cleaned up. If they fail to meet the criteria after that, merge them. If not, keep them.
Also, when I read this "why should i, people dont respect me here or in real life, what have i got to loose if i keep going", it just sounded like BEGD is a spoiled little brat who has nothing better to do than be a hateful jerk on the internet because nobody shows him any respect on the net or in real life. 87.102.20.45 ( talk) 11:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I've added it in, and I also made absolute certain that I ALSO added in the blog translation from the Bulbanews article related to it. There does seem to be an error though: when I added in the info, for some strange reason, it moved a significant portion of her personality sub-article to the source area. I don't even KNOW how I even did it, all I know is that I somehow accomplished that.
Weedle_McHairybug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.223.196 ( talk) 23:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the merge and I would also state I would prefer the Bulbapedia link stays. My opinion is because I feel that since some of the articles on Wikipedia are rudely deleted in terms of fancruft a better way is to keep the fancruft material on another wiki (The material that can be proven to be true) and convince unhappy editors that it is where they have to go to find the material since wikipedia can only use the basic material that isn't too large. An alternative is for the Pokemon characters there is also a. Remove the summaries to all the characters' pokemon and let the links to the list of Pokemon stay where those pages will have minor details on that Pokemon's role in the plo in addition to trimming the characters summaries' of any non-vital details. Then there is b. Trim the character and Pokemons' summaries together and find a way to make it work. - 71.59.237.110 ( talk) 17:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
87.102.20.45 here. (dynamic IP addresses and all that. Anyway, I was just thinking, if the articles are merged, they could at least keep the pictures and set it out nicely, kinda like how they had the list of Frontier Brains, Gym Leaders etc. Makes it easier on the eyes than the wall of text that the character list has at the moment :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.115.27 ( talk) 18:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so I really don't like this. The bios are just too condensced for my tastes, not to mention they're too short and even a bit confusing. I say, we should restore it to the way it used to be with separate articles for different characters. Really, folks, let's not turn Wikipedia into one huge 'super article'. :/ --Super_Staff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.2 ( talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
There is good information about Ash Ketchum on Veronica Taylor's official website. (Veronica Taylor was the voice actress for Ash in Seasons 1-8) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.237.143 ( talk) 22:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I'm reading about Pokemon for the first time on wikipedia. As a user. I find the merge confusing. Pokemon characters have different name in each languages and having one page for each is less confusing. I had to go read on the french wikipedia because the english version was much a mess. When I click on a character's name I expect a picture but I get a whole article of several characters. As a kid, the names were different so I can only remember by pictures. I'm not a content writer on wikipedia. Just a user and that's my experience. Don't merge. It's not worth. Let one article for each character.
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Max and May have separate bios, dawn is missing still. signed by: Ferrariguy1000 ( talk) 21:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Dawn doesn't have a page to herself; and May, Misty, Brock, and even Ash are being tagged for a possible merge. What's next? "List of characters in fiction"? StarBP ( talk) 01:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I really think that Dawn should have her own page, especially since she's a main character Wikigirl16 ( talk) 22:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I found some concept art on Ash Ketchum on this website. It has lots of other things like that about Pokémon on it too. StarBP ( talk) 20:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Sarah Natochenny's myspace she plays Delia,Johanna,Staravia,Staraptor and Roselia Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 04:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::I spoke with Knotz on her website and she says she never played Deila and said Sarah had done it since AG191 Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 22:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I edit Gary Oak and then it is back to the way it was before. Who is doing this?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.174.126 ( talk) 22:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
We do not know that Ninjask is at Reggies farm/daycare, unless someone proves me wrong, I'll change it Friday. BaconBoy914 ( talk) 14:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a general query here, but why do Misty and Brock both have articles seperate from this list when May, Max, and Dawn don't? As all five characters were/are main cast members and (with the exception of Max) figure in their respective generational games, it stands to reason that either they should all have a seperate article, or none of them should. It strikes me as odd that this is not the case. Your thoughts? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 03:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Since when did Giovanni's surname become "Mortiego?" I've never heard this name used in the anime, or any other media, for that matter. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure he's never been referred to as anything but "the Boss" in the anime, at least in the dub. Teamrocketspy621 ( talk) 21:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok...I haven't watched the show for years but seeing as how it is still running as strong as ever, I don't think there is a character named Master Jose that ends up leading Ash to his death after Ash defeats him during the so called "last battles of Ash." Dariex ( talk) 07:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Dariex
I've often criticized the almost autistic way Wikipedia wants their sources, almost even to the point of being annoying, but from what I've noticed from various sources is that none of them actually mention Dawn's so-called crush for Ash. Neither the Pokémon Wikia as Bulbapedia actually mention anything about it, and if it was actually true that Dawn developed a crush on Ash, it should probably have linked to a Serebii episode summary. Do note that "probably" is bolded, as to highlight the fact that it wouldn't suffice as a good source, but at least it would be something.
I'll be removing the particular line(s) that mention it for now. -- GaryCXJk ( talk) 13:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Apparently in this edit by User:MegaHL90 on 23 October 2009, there was a new layout implemented. Does anybody agree with this change? I personally think it makes it look messy and disorganized. Keep or revert? (obviously we cant revert, because more edits have come, but you know what I mean.) Blake ( Talk· Edits) 03:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I added hidden section titles, (<span id="May"></span>). I think the current layout will be fine now. Blake ( Talk· Edits) 16:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Kotone has been a traveling partner with Ash and friends from DP143-DP147 in Japan. I think it would be good to have a section on this list. Maybe we could even find sources for her replacing Crystal/Kris and create a whole page? But for now, we just need a section on the list. Because people will be wanting to link her Pokemon's appearances to her, like I did with Marill. Currently the only information on her is at List of Pokémon characters#In the video games, which isn't much. Blake ( Talk· Edits) 02:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Why's there randomly a picture of Professor Birch but no one else? -- 70.134.48.188 ( talk) 00:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Pokémon: Best Wishes!#"Iris" for discussion as to why the name "Iris" for the fictional character is WP:OR and should not be used unless a reliable source is provided.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 02:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Megan Hollingshead confirmed she never voiced Officer Jenny she only voiced Cassidy, Nurse Joy and the other Hollingshead characters Darren Dunstan confirmed that Officer Jenny was voiced by Lee Quick before Jamie Davyous Owens and Behind the Voice Actors has proof to back this up Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 00:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
It says in the article that Ash is "loosely" based on Red, but since in one of the mangas Red, Blue and Yellow are all seperate people, then isnt Ash represented as Yellow? (As I play Pokemon Yellow) Please correct me If I am wrong,but i still am not sure... It says nothing about Yellow so far as I am researching this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:21FF:1EF0:0:0:0:3B ( talk) 17:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I kinda feel that the Team Rocket trio meets notability requirements. Of 820+ episodes of the dub, they've been in what, 800 of them? They're important enough to the series to be given at the very least a single article covering the three of them. If Ash, Misty, and Brock get their own articles (despite the fact that Team Rocket's been in far more episodes than Misty and Brock), then so should Team Rocket. It's common sense, people, and after all, they are the main villains of the series. -- 156.110.82.222 ( talk) 22:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Should Kiyotaka Furushima really redirect here? He just voices one character, but it's not an article about the voice actor. 131.191.95.56 ( talk) 22:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
The list is trying to do too much by covering every character that appears in all of the different anime series. It should be split up into individual lists based on series and allow those lists to describe the characters as they pertain to those series. — Farix ( t | c) 11:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I suggest that we should split this article into a "Team Rocket" page because a we all know Team Rocket has been around since the firt release Pokemon: Indigo League. Also, Team Rocket is not you would call a "minor" series of characters, because Team Rocket have been in what, about 1,000 episodes? And also, if I may, why are there Misty and Brock pages. If there are pages for the both of them, then there should also be one for Jessie, James, and Team Rocket's Meowth.
- TechnoBladeSPX ( talk • contribs) 8:41, 14 September 2020 (Pacific Time Zone)
Somebody PLEASE semi-protect this article indefinitely. IP addresses are persistently adding unsourced information to it, such as English voice actors. Homechallenge55 ( talk) 05:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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Formal request has been received to merge Team Rocket into List of Pokémon anime characters; dated: January 2018. Proposer's Rationale: there is a section that covers the antagonists sufficiently. The Team Rocket article is barely sourced and mostly plot and trivial information. Discuss here. Richard3120 ( talk) 23:31, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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I came to this page after looking for "Gary Oak", the tree. It's actually spelled "Garry Oak". I'm of a mind to redirect "Gary Oak" to that article instead of this one because that one links back here and this character is clearly named after that tree. Of course I don't want to do that immediately as that would be an insult to the BEST RIVAL EVER. Cheerfully Hamster Drink ( talk) 23:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello There.
I have noticed that, out of all the different ways AmourShipping (The ship of Ask and Serena) could possibly be on Wikipedia, a passing reference in a list article is not what I would expect. And it is also not what I want. AmourShipping warrants a full-fledged article, complete with sources. Having one of, if not the largest ship only referenced in passing in a list is not a good thing.
However, the ship to get a full article would possibly be a great addition to Wikipedia, so people would not have to look at Pokémon-oriented or Shipping-oriented wikis or Dictionary.com to look at the ship. I mean, sure, they are very useful if you want to dive into the rabbit-hole of research and building a full opinion on the ship. We could provide extra links to those sites in a "Further Research" section in the article, and have several sources from The Pokémon Company and other places across the net.
But, you do not have to. AmourShipping, at best, needs a sub-section in the Shipping (Fandom) article, shared with how shipping spread out from the sci-fi and live action genres.
Please consider listening and providing your opinion.
-- TheSNerd ( talk) 23:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)u/TheSoftwareNerd
Note: I am happy someone added a little bit more info to the article, so thanks. -- TheSNerd ( talk) 01:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I have come to realise that the table showing characters apperances has been getting bigger lately. An ip user has been adding almost every single character to the table making it too big. I'm up for opinions but in my opinion, I think the table should either be scale back and only include specific character or remove it all together.-- Fab1442006 ( talk) 12:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, as this article is over 50,000 words long, I think it would be reasonable that it is split into multiple articles. Here are some ideas:
Split by name: Split into articles titled List of Pokémon anime characters (A-M), List of Pokémon anime characters (N-Z), etc. Pros of this method are simplicity, though it may become harder to navigate, as related characters are no longer grouped together.
Split by introduction: This would include the article being split into several articles titled List of Pokémon anime characters (seasons 1-3), List of Pokémon anime characters (seasons 4-6), etc. Pros of this are sorting characters by when they were introduced, and thus were likely the most notable, though cons could be that many of the most notable characters are from season one, and related groups are not together.
Split into categories: This would be splitting into articles like List of Pokémon anime antagonists, List of gym leaders in the Pokémon anime, etc. Pros are that related characters are all together, though cons are that characters may need to neatly fit into one category. However, this is my preference.
Please do tell me your thoughts.
DecafPotato ( talk) 20:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Lee Quick and Jamie Davyous Owens voiced Officer Jenny in the 4Kids dub, Lisa Adams voices Vivian and Lillian in the same dub and Shannon Conley replaced her as Vivian when PUSA took over.
Lee Quick has a website confirming that she was Jenny and Lisa Adams has a résumé listing her voice work. I figured this would be helpful since the mods can be stubborn and also rude and unprofessional. 2001:5B0:2560:E488:5132:6BD:696:3832 ( talk) 03:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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Archive 1 |
I think that if you wanted to merge the characters, that you would have to merge all of the characters, not just some, as well as all of the info about each character. That would be a lot of merging that I just don't think is worth all of the effort.
Planet X42 (
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01:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
The characters do not require separate coverage. This list will cover each important character and the more important Pokémon. The hundreds of minor characters will be covered within the episode summaries on the lists, and the minor Pokémon will be covered on the Pokémon lists.
TTN (
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14:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
(un-indent): The problem, Taiketsu, is that there are few to none verifiable third-party sources that contain information on the characters. The reason why all of the individual Pokémon articles were merged (with the exceptions of Pikachu, Meowth, and later Bulbasaur) is because there is no real-world, out-of-universe information on the Pokémon (with the exceptions of the three mentioned, and even then Bulbasaur is hovering on the borderline). The articles fail Wikipedia guidelines. It's as simple as that. The individual articles can always be demerged if the relevant information is found. But take a look at Ash Ketchum. The section Creation and Conception is completely blank, and has been for months. The article isn't meant to be mainly a list of all of the Pokémon that Ash has caught. Until relevant and meaningful information like that can be found, sourced, and added to the article, what point is there in having an article? If it fails policy, why should it be kept? This isn't about what fans want. This is about following established Wikipedia policies and guidelines. For these reasons, I say to merge all of the articles that have been proposed. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 23:09, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, maybe because this guys been in 400 episodes? If this gets merged, you can just go merge all the other main characters in other things. There is a reason they call it list of MINOR, yes MINOR characters in pokemon series. Now, the word minor means a lot here. Dacheatcode ( talk) 01:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC) Also, can you think of a way to fit that entire article into one iitty bitty section? Cause i cant. Apply for the world record books if you can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dacheatcode ( talk • contribs) 01:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't think the article should be merged. There is enough info in it for it to be it's own article. Misty is an important character in the Pokémon anime, so she is notable enough. → C Teng [talk] 02:06, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Woah BEGD, I don't appreciate that kind of language on this site. If you wanted to go into a PUBLC resturant and say things like that, I don't think that you would get a good reaction, and if there's a cop, maybe even a serious warning for profanity in public. I am also posting this to your talk page so you can get the message.
Planet X42 (
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01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
BEGD, you're stepping out of line here. Take a few minutes to calm down and stop swearing. That doesn't accomplish anything except for a loss of respect. Search for reliable third-party sources instead if you are so desperate for the characters to have their own articles. TTN, I have a quickquestion for you. You say that This list will cover... the more important Pokémon. What criteria do you use to say how "important" a Pokemon is?
MelicansMatkin (
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18:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately all of the pokemon character articles suggested for merge do fail the requirements for maintaining a respective separate article. A lot of the information discusses the pokemon of each character and not the character themselves. While it is important to note several key pokemon specific to the character, the bulk of each article should not focus on their pokemon nor should it list every single one the character caught. As such, a merge would be necessary. However, considering the immense popularity of the Pokemon franchise and the main characters, an abundance of out-of-universe information can be collected and a significant revamp of each article is certainly within. Instead of jumping into a merge that undoubtedly causes heated arguments on both sides, it would be best to perform major cleanups of the article to see if at the end the article is worthy of being independant of a list. If it can't, or the cleanup isn't taken seriousely and not done, then we can go ahead and merge the articles. This would give a chance for editors to do their thing and bring articles to standards...even though it should have been done in the first place. Though what's done is done so this gives editors a second chance so to speak and saves everyone from spending useless energy arguing. A time-table of say a month can be set on each article, then a review, and if it doesn't pass then a merge can be performed as agreed. It's certainly better than tagging merges on everything, though that would be a great way to get people's attention in saying this needs a big clean if you want to keep it. Fox816 ( talk) 20:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Why is dawn, may and max considered not a main character or not as improtant (as in not having thier own pages)? they should have thier own pages again, clean this up! signed by: can't sign in again! this mac in the school cant use the sign username! can anyone sign for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferrariguy1000 ( talk • contribs) 17:05, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
People have even written academic papers on the darn things:
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-22037604_ITM
Geni 20:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
There are already outside articles and real-world references included in the topic about Jesse and James. The names "Jessie" and "James" link directly to "Jesse James", the outlaw and backrobber of the 1800s. The article I am against merging also gives their Japanese names and their connection to famous samuari. How is this failing the Wikipedia guildlines? It is not failing at all, and in fact, has way too much information to be simply merged. I did not know the facts about these Team Rocket members, and I really enjoyed the article about them. It has many subtopics. It compares the TV shows to the movies, and the games. It is very focused, and divided rationally. It was also informative, interesting, well-written, and everything I expect when I come to Wikipedia. There is no reason the list of characters can not simply link to the more indepth topics already presented. Amirrah ( talk) 20:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:N is a guideline for editing, not a policy. The reason many separate articles exist for individual characters is that their prominence within a setting warrants attention. This is particularly true of characters for which a good deal of encyclopedic content can be gathered. It's for this reason I oppose the merge as suggested. The Pokemon series in particular has dozens of characters. Merging the prominent characters back into the fold would imply a perceived reduction of importance, or greatly extend the length of the article, depending on how the merge was handled. I propose two alternatives:
Both formats have worked well for other settings—it will work here, too. — Nahum Reduta [ talk| contribs] 10:15, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
why must people assume that, just because Misty doesn't have any OUT OF UNIVERSE sources, it gives them the right to merge HER and the rest of the main cast of Pokemon into a list? under that token, we should merge Son Goku's article with List of Saiyans in Dragon Ball Z, Link's article with List of characters in The Legend of Zelda, and many other things. Heck, why don't we merge EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE IN EXISTANCE into one super article, while we are at it.
See, this is the problem with this WP:N thing, It would mean that we have to merge every single article on this site into one super article, thus creating an even bigger mess than before. So I say we should keep this article, and NOT MERGE IT, and the same goes for the rest of the articles that you are proposing to merge.
~~Weedle_McHairybug~~
The problem *I* see with merging the articles is that Misty isn't only in the Pokemon anime. There are several different versions of her: the one in the games, from Pokemon Adventures, from Electric Tale of Pikachu, etc. This article covers all of her media appearances. Merging her into a list of anime only characters would imply that she only appears there or that her role in the anime is the one of utmost importance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.2 ( talk) 19:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
About Naruto characters articles the best examples are the first fours. About creation and conception the most important information is saying that the characters are based from the videogames versions but with a source. Tintor2 ( talk) 11:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
So... what does everyone think? I say yes.-- 72.208.190.234 ( talk) 00:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
I'm indifferent either way, it's nice having different character articles, but not important. A clean up should be done first, see if they should stay after being cleaned up. If they fail to meet the criteria after that, merge them. If not, keep them.
Also, when I read this "why should i, people dont respect me here or in real life, what have i got to loose if i keep going", it just sounded like BEGD is a spoiled little brat who has nothing better to do than be a hateful jerk on the internet because nobody shows him any respect on the net or in real life. 87.102.20.45 ( talk) 11:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Don't worry, I've added it in, and I also made absolute certain that I ALSO added in the blog translation from the Bulbanews article related to it. There does seem to be an error though: when I added in the info, for some strange reason, it moved a significant portion of her personality sub-article to the source area. I don't even KNOW how I even did it, all I know is that I somehow accomplished that.
Weedle_McHairybug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.223.196 ( talk) 23:49, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the merge and I would also state I would prefer the Bulbapedia link stays. My opinion is because I feel that since some of the articles on Wikipedia are rudely deleted in terms of fancruft a better way is to keep the fancruft material on another wiki (The material that can be proven to be true) and convince unhappy editors that it is where they have to go to find the material since wikipedia can only use the basic material that isn't too large. An alternative is for the Pokemon characters there is also a. Remove the summaries to all the characters' pokemon and let the links to the list of Pokemon stay where those pages will have minor details on that Pokemon's role in the plo in addition to trimming the characters summaries' of any non-vital details. Then there is b. Trim the character and Pokemons' summaries together and find a way to make it work. - 71.59.237.110 ( talk) 17:13, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
87.102.20.45 here. (dynamic IP addresses and all that. Anyway, I was just thinking, if the articles are merged, they could at least keep the pictures and set it out nicely, kinda like how they had the list of Frontier Brains, Gym Leaders etc. Makes it easier on the eyes than the wall of text that the character list has at the moment :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.115.27 ( talk) 18:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so I really don't like this. The bios are just too condensced for my tastes, not to mention they're too short and even a bit confusing. I say, we should restore it to the way it used to be with separate articles for different characters. Really, folks, let's not turn Wikipedia into one huge 'super article'. :/ --Super_Staff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.16.2 ( talk) 21:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
There is good information about Ash Ketchum on Veronica Taylor's official website. (Veronica Taylor was the voice actress for Ash in Seasons 1-8) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.237.143 ( talk) 22:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I'm reading about Pokemon for the first time on wikipedia. As a user. I find the merge confusing. Pokemon characters have different name in each languages and having one page for each is less confusing. I had to go read on the french wikipedia because the english version was much a mess. When I click on a character's name I expect a picture but I get a whole article of several characters. As a kid, the names were different so I can only remember by pictures. I'm not a content writer on wikipedia. Just a user and that's my experience. Don't merge. It's not worth. Let one article for each character.
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Max and May have separate bios, dawn is missing still. signed by: Ferrariguy1000 ( talk) 21:41, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Dawn doesn't have a page to herself; and May, Misty, Brock, and even Ash are being tagged for a possible merge. What's next? "List of characters in fiction"? StarBP ( talk) 01:06, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I really think that Dawn should have her own page, especially since she's a main character Wikigirl16 ( talk) 22:23, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I found some concept art on Ash Ketchum on this website. It has lots of other things like that about Pokémon on it too. StarBP ( talk) 20:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
According to Sarah Natochenny's myspace she plays Delia,Johanna,Staravia,Staraptor and Roselia Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 04:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::I spoke with Knotz on her website and she says she never played Deila and said Sarah had done it since AG191 Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 22:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I edit Gary Oak and then it is back to the way it was before. Who is doing this?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.174.126 ( talk) 22:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
We do not know that Ninjask is at Reggies farm/daycare, unless someone proves me wrong, I'll change it Friday. BaconBoy914 ( talk) 14:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Just a general query here, but why do Misty and Brock both have articles seperate from this list when May, Max, and Dawn don't? As all five characters were/are main cast members and (with the exception of Max) figure in their respective generational games, it stands to reason that either they should all have a seperate article, or none of them should. It strikes me as odd that this is not the case. Your thoughts? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 03:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Since when did Giovanni's surname become "Mortiego?" I've never heard this name used in the anime, or any other media, for that matter. Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure he's never been referred to as anything but "the Boss" in the anime, at least in the dub. Teamrocketspy621 ( talk) 21:52, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok...I haven't watched the show for years but seeing as how it is still running as strong as ever, I don't think there is a character named Master Jose that ends up leading Ash to his death after Ash defeats him during the so called "last battles of Ash." Dariex ( talk) 07:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Dariex
I've often criticized the almost autistic way Wikipedia wants their sources, almost even to the point of being annoying, but from what I've noticed from various sources is that none of them actually mention Dawn's so-called crush for Ash. Neither the Pokémon Wikia as Bulbapedia actually mention anything about it, and if it was actually true that Dawn developed a crush on Ash, it should probably have linked to a Serebii episode summary. Do note that "probably" is bolded, as to highlight the fact that it wouldn't suffice as a good source, but at least it would be something.
I'll be removing the particular line(s) that mention it for now. -- GaryCXJk ( talk) 13:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Apparently in this edit by User:MegaHL90 on 23 October 2009, there was a new layout implemented. Does anybody agree with this change? I personally think it makes it look messy and disorganized. Keep or revert? (obviously we cant revert, because more edits have come, but you know what I mean.) Blake ( Talk· Edits) 03:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Well, I added hidden section titles, (<span id="May"></span>). I think the current layout will be fine now. Blake ( Talk· Edits) 16:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Kotone has been a traveling partner with Ash and friends from DP143-DP147 in Japan. I think it would be good to have a section on this list. Maybe we could even find sources for her replacing Crystal/Kris and create a whole page? But for now, we just need a section on the list. Because people will be wanting to link her Pokemon's appearances to her, like I did with Marill. Currently the only information on her is at List of Pokémon characters#In the video games, which isn't much. Blake ( Talk· Edits) 02:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Why's there randomly a picture of Professor Birch but no one else? -- 70.134.48.188 ( talk) 00:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Pokémon: Best Wishes!#"Iris" for discussion as to why the name "Iris" for the fictional character is WP:OR and should not be used unless a reliable source is provided.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 02:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Megan Hollingshead confirmed she never voiced Officer Jenny she only voiced Cassidy, Nurse Joy and the other Hollingshead characters Darren Dunstan confirmed that Officer Jenny was voiced by Lee Quick before Jamie Davyous Owens and Behind the Voice Actors has proof to back this up Matthew Cantrell ( talk) 00:19, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
It says in the article that Ash is "loosely" based on Red, but since in one of the mangas Red, Blue and Yellow are all seperate people, then isnt Ash represented as Yellow? (As I play Pokemon Yellow) Please correct me If I am wrong,but i still am not sure... It says nothing about Yellow so far as I am researching this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5B0:21FF:1EF0:0:0:0:3B ( talk) 17:25, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
I kinda feel that the Team Rocket trio meets notability requirements. Of 820+ episodes of the dub, they've been in what, 800 of them? They're important enough to the series to be given at the very least a single article covering the three of them. If Ash, Misty, and Brock get their own articles (despite the fact that Team Rocket's been in far more episodes than Misty and Brock), then so should Team Rocket. It's common sense, people, and after all, they are the main villains of the series. -- 156.110.82.222 ( talk) 22:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
Should Kiyotaka Furushima really redirect here? He just voices one character, but it's not an article about the voice actor. 131.191.95.56 ( talk) 22:34, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
The list is trying to do too much by covering every character that appears in all of the different anime series. It should be split up into individual lists based on series and allow those lists to describe the characters as they pertain to those series. — Farix ( t | c) 11:55, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I suggest that we should split this article into a "Team Rocket" page because a we all know Team Rocket has been around since the firt release Pokemon: Indigo League. Also, Team Rocket is not you would call a "minor" series of characters, because Team Rocket have been in what, about 1,000 episodes? And also, if I may, why are there Misty and Brock pages. If there are pages for the both of them, then there should also be one for Jessie, James, and Team Rocket's Meowth.
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Somebody PLEASE semi-protect this article indefinitely. IP addresses are persistently adding unsourced information to it, such as English voice actors. Homechallenge55 ( talk) 05:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
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Formal request has been received to merge Team Rocket into List of Pokémon anime characters; dated: January 2018. Proposer's Rationale: there is a section that covers the antagonists sufficiently. The Team Rocket article is barely sourced and mostly plot and trivial information. Discuss here. Richard3120 ( talk) 23:31, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
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I came to this page after looking for "Gary Oak", the tree. It's actually spelled "Garry Oak". I'm of a mind to redirect "Gary Oak" to that article instead of this one because that one links back here and this character is clearly named after that tree. Of course I don't want to do that immediately as that would be an insult to the BEST RIVAL EVER. Cheerfully Hamster Drink ( talk) 23:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello There.
I have noticed that, out of all the different ways AmourShipping (The ship of Ask and Serena) could possibly be on Wikipedia, a passing reference in a list article is not what I would expect. And it is also not what I want. AmourShipping warrants a full-fledged article, complete with sources. Having one of, if not the largest ship only referenced in passing in a list is not a good thing.
However, the ship to get a full article would possibly be a great addition to Wikipedia, so people would not have to look at Pokémon-oriented or Shipping-oriented wikis or Dictionary.com to look at the ship. I mean, sure, they are very useful if you want to dive into the rabbit-hole of research and building a full opinion on the ship. We could provide extra links to those sites in a "Further Research" section in the article, and have several sources from The Pokémon Company and other places across the net.
But, you do not have to. AmourShipping, at best, needs a sub-section in the Shipping (Fandom) article, shared with how shipping spread out from the sci-fi and live action genres.
Please consider listening and providing your opinion.
-- TheSNerd ( talk) 23:31, 8 April 2021 (UTC)u/TheSoftwareNerd
Note: I am happy someone added a little bit more info to the article, so thanks. -- TheSNerd ( talk) 01:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
I have come to realise that the table showing characters apperances has been getting bigger lately. An ip user has been adding almost every single character to the table making it too big. I'm up for opinions but in my opinion, I think the table should either be scale back and only include specific character or remove it all together.-- Fab1442006 ( talk) 12:21, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello, as this article is over 50,000 words long, I think it would be reasonable that it is split into multiple articles. Here are some ideas:
Split by name: Split into articles titled List of Pokémon anime characters (A-M), List of Pokémon anime characters (N-Z), etc. Pros of this method are simplicity, though it may become harder to navigate, as related characters are no longer grouped together.
Split by introduction: This would include the article being split into several articles titled List of Pokémon anime characters (seasons 1-3), List of Pokémon anime characters (seasons 4-6), etc. Pros of this are sorting characters by when they were introduced, and thus were likely the most notable, though cons could be that many of the most notable characters are from season one, and related groups are not together.
Split into categories: This would be splitting into articles like List of Pokémon anime antagonists, List of gym leaders in the Pokémon anime, etc. Pros are that related characters are all together, though cons are that characters may need to neatly fit into one category. However, this is my preference.
Please do tell me your thoughts.
DecafPotato ( talk) 20:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Lee Quick and Jamie Davyous Owens voiced Officer Jenny in the 4Kids dub, Lisa Adams voices Vivian and Lillian in the same dub and Shannon Conley replaced her as Vivian when PUSA took over.
Lee Quick has a website confirming that she was Jenny and Lisa Adams has a résumé listing her voice work. I figured this would be helpful since the mods can be stubborn and also rude and unprofessional. 2001:5B0:2560:E488:5132:6BD:696:3832 ( talk) 03:46, 31 October 2022 (UTC)